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How can you say that? Again, i'm virtually positive those numbers listed are just covid cases and not car crashes or heart attacks or what have you. 2,500 extra deaths a day. Given that on a normal day (quick search turned up a cdc report) is 6,000 or so, i'd say that nearly 50% additional deaths (...

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https://twitter.com/sundae_gurl/status/1336467842481479681?s=21 Those numbers are a little odd to me. The average death rate in the US the past couple years has been about 7800 per day. So even without Covid a normal day would be twice as deadly as Antietam. Well I do think it was limited to COVID ...

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https://twitter.com/sundae_gurl/status/1336467842481479681?s=21 Those numbers are a little odd to me. The average death rate in the US the past couple years has been about 7800 per day. So even without Covid a normal day would be twice as deadly as Antietam. Put another way, I guess, last Thursday ...

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A_B wrote: ↑Tue Dec 08, 2020 11:14 pm

Those numbers are a little odd to me. The average death rate in the US the past couple years has been about 7800 per day. So even without Covid a normal day would be twice as deadly as Antietam.

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The Court has asked the target states to respond by tomorrow.

That doesn’t mean anything regarding the outcome, but it hardly seems fair to expect quality briefing on obscure Supreme Court procedures in a day.

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OK, I have to admit that this was a clever way to get the entire election to the Supreme Court. I did not see that coming. But no, the Supreme Court is not going to invalidate the repeatedly-confirmed results of the elections in four states. I’m still going to be on pins and needles until this pass...

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I'm liking this Lloyd Austin pick. But then again, I'd probably like any retired general for SecDef. https://twitter.com/jimearl666/status/1336355018589548547 Hysterics aside, this objection makes a lot of sense, at least in the abstract. I can see a couple of possible justifications - one may be t...

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Jeebus florida...just (follow and read the eight tweets that follow): https://twitter.com/doctorow/status/1336309340836270080?s=21 So very, very wrong. So very, very third world. In other words, Florida. The GOP is just fucking disgusting. They have been heading this way since Gingrich, but Trump h...

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OK, I have to admit that this was a clever way to get the entire election to the Supreme Court. I did not see that coming.

But no, the Supreme Court is not going to invalidate the repeatedly-confirmed results of the elections in four states.

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“If I had a second chance at this pandemic, I would have prioritized health. At the very least, my personal health.” https://twitter.com/nbcnews/status/1336143535393939462?s=21 This guy dying is helpful, but I don't think some random state senator is going to do much. We need a US Senator to die - ...

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So if you’re not even sure there’s the minimum level of protection for someone who wants to ensure their health or their family’s health, why the fuck are you making it a second job to shout me down here? Obviously neither of our posts are doing anything, but the real world version of what you’re d...

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If you want to give employees a way to avoid working in dangerous situations, then let's get the money to them. And the only way to get the money to them (and certainly the *fastest* way to get money to them) is by agreeing to GOP demands for liability protection. Where are you seeing money for wor...

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While you are undoubtedly correct, I think this misses the point. If industries are given a very public indemnification against lawsuits from workers contracting COVID, businesses will see it as a green light to force workers to return to unsafe working conditions. Sure, the reality is that a lawsu...

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People will obtain many many times more "protection" by receiving economic relief right now than they would by preserving a supposed right to sue their employers for Covid exposure, especially since in most states, state workers compensation laws prevent workers from suing their employers...

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Anyway, that's how it looks to me. What do you think? Do you think Republicans will agree to a broad-based relief bill without employer liability protection? If not, should the Dems continue their refusal to agree to the liability protection, even if it means that there will be no relief bill? To m...

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By indemnifying the corporations that forced some of those people either into unsafe conditions or out of work? That's not "playing politics", its protecting people over industry. People will obtain many many times more "protection" by receiving economic relief right now than th...

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mister d wrote: ↑Mon Dec 07, 2020 1:43 pm "Blue" No Matter Who!

Isn't it a bad thing to play politics with people's lives?

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Rex wrote: ↑Mon Dec 07, 2020 1:05 pm How MAGA is Group H?

At least the top four in that list. Something tells me Cyprus and Malta are probably also pretty MAGAish.

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mister d wrote: ↑Mon Dec 07, 2020 1:45 pm Do you know if the guy killed himself or someone else?

I'm pretty sure it was someone else he killed. He plowed straight into the driver's side of the other car.

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Hey DSafe, how is your mom doing? As far as I know, well. She was in very good spirits when I talked to her on Thanksgiving morning, but I plan on calling her tomorrow (haven't heard anything since and the home she is at is good at contacting my sister who lives nearby, if needed). Thanks for askin...

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So, this fatal wreck happened on my quiet residential street over the weekend. I was a witness to the events leading up to it (though not the crash itself), and it easily could have been me who the driver hit, instead of the ultimate victim. https://twitter.com/SLCScanner/status/1335089898890481665?...

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Yep. My kid picked up Shane Lowry's wayward tee shot today. I wasn't at the course with him, and it was right as he and the rest of the family arrived. The entire crowd scared the shit out of him, and he immediately dropped the ball. Lowry could not have been better about it. A rules official came ...

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A_B wrote: ↑Sat Dec 05, 2020 9:28 pm All sitcoms sucked until I personally enjoyed them. This is fact.

Bingo. Laverne and Shirley was fine. If you really wanted something more highbrow and sophisticated back then, that’s what PBS was for.

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Yep. My kid picked up Shane Lowry's wayward tee shot today. I wasn't at the course with him, and it was right as he and the rest of the family arrived. The entire crowd scared the shit out of him, and he immediately dropped the ball. Lowry could not have been better about it. A rules official came ...

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A_B wrote: ↑Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:47 pm
The Sybian wrote: ↑Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:39 pm
brian wrote: ↑Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:32 pm Imagine believing in God and then believing that the person described in the Bible would actually want Donald Trump to be a leader of people.
Have you read the Bible? God is pretty horrific and vengeful.
Some of us read past the first few books.

Lol.

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Rex wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 8:52 pmA worrying sign?

Isn’t everything?

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I've been on a shitload of zoom calls over the past 10 months, but this is actually the first where I actually have a button up on but lounge pants as well. Business up top, party down below. I realized that the way my laptop is set up for such calls at home, there is no chance I'd be visible from ...

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Serves me right for actually being somewhat productive today.

I'm not seeing anything on this, however - do you have a link to what Pelosi agreed to?

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mister d wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 3:22 pm People who don't have money can't pay rent.

I do understand that. I don't understand how this relates to the latest terrible thing that McConnell - sorry, I mean Pelosi - has done.

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mister d wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 1:39 pm This tweet probably sums it up better than my words would:

Sorry, I still don’t get this.

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mister d wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 1:10 pm File that away for the next time you want to claim the Republicans are playing politics with people's lives. They are, but they aren't unique.

I guess I'm missing the story - is the Republican Senate passing a more generous aid package and Pelosi's demanding cuts?

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Because, man, those couple months leading up to the election were doom and gloom, cataclysmic, earth is ending level media coverage and it seems like a while bunch of people were able to vote without issue. Yeah but to be fair, every issue leading up to the election was like that. Remember when Tru...

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https://twitter.com/kpolantz/status/1333911414273159169?s=19 People on the interwebs have figured that it's probably Rick Gates. The redacted name didn't redact the apostrophe at the end of it and there is no "s" after said apostrophe, the individual's last name therefore ends in "s....

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https://twitter.com/kpolantz/status/1333911414273159169?s=19 People on the interwebs have figured that it's probably Rick Gates. The redacted name didn't redact the apostrophe at the end of it and there is no "s" after said apostrophe, the individual's last name therefore ends in "s....

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mister d wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 9:29 pm

Hmmm.

That would’ve been fine I think. But it would’ve looked bad.

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I certainly don't agree with Mr. D about the lack of difference between Dems and R's. But, it is awfully discouraging that all these fucking politicians feel like they don't have to follow the rules they dictate for others. In addition to Newsom, the mayor of San Francisco joined a big birthday par...

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"I'm the President, so how can they say I don't have standing?" The fun part about Trump's standing meltdown is that the reason the plaintiffs in these lawsuits don't have standing is because Trump himself apparently hasn't been a party to any of the lawsuits. It's been Trump for Presiden...

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I was going to strongly say not to go but he agreed immediately. So I’m headed home. Bonus: the SIL works for my wife so they’ve been in office all week together. BIL lost taste today. We get tested tomorrow (My work's doctor asked for a test this week then one early next week) but I'm home at leas...

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And there's a district in Iowa where the Dem lost by less than ten votes.

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