The Swamp

Tom 1860

Apologies if I have missed this in the thread, but didn't Brazil beat Croatia involving a totally BS penalty at the 2014 world cup following play acting by Fred? I love the way Brazil can play, but the cheating, throwing themselves all over the place has ruined it for me. You can't have it both ways...

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Not as impressed with England. Were second best through about 35 minutes today. First goal changed everything then the one right before the half ended it but Senegal definitely could have had the first goal. Senegal were very very physical early on and England took time to manage that. Once they st...

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Baloney wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 3:35 pm Can't wait for the Maguire/Mbappe match up.

It will be a Mbappe/Walker match up

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I said to my wife in the first and second halves, this team is naïve. Their youth really showed today. Tracking back and covering late runs is 101 shit. It's not like they got outmaneuvered today, necessarily. They just let up mentally and the Dutch are fucking lethal. The bulk of this team is goin...

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They'll be better for this exposure, very young side and I am sure they'll do you septics proud at home in four years.

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Well done USA and England

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Everyone in the world can fuck off...

I'll be back in January 2023, unlike Wales, who will be back in 2087.

Also, thank you Gareth Bale, Christ Gunter, Aaron Ramsey, Joe Allen and Wayne Hennessey for allowing us to dream.

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Harold Shipman song - infamous serial killer Harold Shipman is our friend, is our friend, is our friend Harold Shipman is our friend He kills English Prince of Wales song Prince Charles is a homo He likes it up the bum and when he bends over he dreams of John Hartson He's fast, he's quick, his name...

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I know US was second in ticket sales only to Qatar, but, man... Mexico travels! Great crowd. and boy could you not hear the US fans yesterday. 3000 Welsh fans out sang them all day long. Chants of USA, USA don't cut it in football. Are there any funny chants regarding US players, or don't US fans d...

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I is really not as simple as Moore or James for the manager. Ramsey and Bale have had almost no game time recently and they get tired after 60 minutes, Joe Allen is still to play this season. I felt that Moore would play and Wales would start with a 3 - 4 - 3 formation with the fullbacks joining in ...

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I thought the refereeing was fine. He actually let a lot of the play flow and wasn't blowing everything single thing down. If you didn't know where he was from, you wouldn't have noticed. I suppose my point was the players (especially those from Wales) were looking to buy cheap fouls and the ref fe...

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Tale of two halves. Wales under the pump for the first 45, then were by far the better team in the 2nd. Naïve tactics from the US, they sat deep and gave Wales the chance to come back into the game. The worst thing about that game was thinking the ref might cock the whole thing up at any point. The...

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Tale of two halves. Wales under the pump for the first 45, then were by far the better team in the 2nd. Naïve tactics from the US, they sat deep and gave Wales the chance to come back into the game.

The worst thing about that game was thinking the ref might cock the whole thing up at any point.

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mister d wrote: ↑Mon Nov 21, 2022 2:38 pm More worried about the ref being a little too quick at this point than anything else.

This for US fans most certainly. Never a yellow for Bale there...

Tom 1860

Great goal, well deserved, only one team in this so far. CH played too high up there and left a massive gap...

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Fair play, the septics are technically very good, much more neat and tidy than the Welsh, who are really nervous.

Tom 1860

Ref is giving me kittens, fucking nightmare having refs from nations that don't have this level of football available to their refs.

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EnochRoot wrote: ↑Mon Nov 21, 2022 1:58 pm The Welsh anthem sounded like something I’d maybe wanna fight for. Probably not, but it sounded intense.

It is worth fighting for...

Ref is from Qatar, which means the best acting team will have a significant advantage.

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Wales have gone with three centre backs and have not picked a traditional centre forward.

It looks like neither team wants to lose...

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degenerasian wrote: ↑Mon Nov 21, 2022 12:21 pm We may never see Grant Wahl again

I mean if they had wanted to ban the hat, I could understand that at least.

Tom 1860

Loads of empty seats at each of the three matches so far.

Tom 1860

mister d wrote: ↑Mon Nov 21, 2022 11:54 am I guess the other way is semi-implied odds ...

England -195 = 66.1%
Draw +310 = 24.4%
US +550 = 15.4%

I guess the extra 6% is just the book taking their cut.

What is the line for the Wales game today?

Tom 1860

I've been bitching about time wasting and the clock for ages. But... Holy Shit. I understand the Iranian GK injury added time, but..14 minutes? And then 10 minutes at the end of an (at the time) 6-1 lead? That's bonkers. To be fair, Harry Maguire having a HIA in the 2nd half would have taken ages, ...

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Also, I had to look up the "xG" thingy. Expected goals I gather, but it seems an odd stat/bet to me.

I am quite old though...

Also, I imagine Vincent Janssen leading the line for the Dutch is making a lot of Spurs fans laugh and roll about etc.

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mister d wrote: ↑Mon Nov 21, 2022 11:45 am
Tom 1860 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 21, 2022 11:21 amWhat was it on the betting sites?
Don't remember the exact number but England was a strong minus to win. They're -195 against USA and I think this was down in the -270 range.

Yep, I am not even sure what -195 down to -270 means. Odds etc look different in the UK

Tom 1860

I was just coming to post the xG, which was pretty interesting I thought ... England 6 (2.41 xG) - 2 Iran (1.47 xG) What was it on the betting sites? If England continue with a back four, allowing their fullbacks to push and have one of the three in midfield sitting (typically the lad from West Ham...

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Bellingham is quite some player isn't he, and I had been told that England would score six and Kane would not get one, I would have laughed.

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Tom 1860 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:35 am Also, looking at the Iran team, they are not too bad at all. Players with Champions league experience and a decent coach.

Yep, I need to have a word with myself

Tom 1860

Also, looking at the Iran team, they are not too bad at all. Players with Champions league experience and a decent coach.

Tom 1860

I was supposed to do a Green Bay (to watch the Titans), New York round trip with Bazza, but he bailed and then work got in the way for me (recruitment is still impossible in the adult care sector as the Tories conspired to get 50,000 people living in adult residential care killed). I will be watchin...

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The 'onelove' captains armbands have been banned and the sanction will be a yellow card if worn... All the teams who planned on wearing the armbands assumed that fines would be imposed, as stated in the rules, but clearly FIFA have shit the bed and announced that yellow cards would be issued as a sa...

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If that's the case, Wales could try to park it for the draw and US would be left eliminated at 4 points. My understanding is this is how Wales normally plays. That is not a fair reflection on how Wales usually play. They have real pace in Danial James and Gareth Bale, so they are capable of breakin...

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It is pretty impressive to miss one country and hit another... How much did they miss by?

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I want to say that The Banshees Of Inisherin was beautiful, but it was not. It was laugh out loud funny in parts and also very, very sad in parts. Farrell and Glesson picked up from In Bruges with really strong performances, but Kerry Condon as Farrell's sister was brilliant. Jenny the miniature don...

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I saw the new Black Panther movie yesterday and didn't like it at all, Angela Bassett was indeed fantastic. Maybe I have seen too many Marvel movies and I am bored of them, because I loved the first movie. I am going to see Martin McDonagh's latest film The Banshees Of Inisherin today, with the abso...

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Oh crumbs I feel sick...

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Wales have released their official FIFA World Cup 2022 song video They have gone for a very political option, which is especially nationalistic and touching on areas that sports generally avoids at all costs. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43Fag8ZQcz4 Here are the lyrics in English - It is clear we...

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Do-able group for the Welsh

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"surprised if he doesn't score 40 premier league goals", he'll defo score 50

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Pruitt3 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 5:12 pm Brett Favre Update

Now I feel disappointed that I'm not living on welfare in the great state of Mississippi

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