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Re: 2017 MLB Playoffs

Post by Joe K » Wed Oct 11, 2017 8:24 pm

mister d wrote:Agreed. “Francona is a great manager” needs to come with a caveat of “non-tactical”.

Not sure what the consensus is but I think Dave Roberts is the best manager in baseball. He makes strong tactical decisions with his bullpens and also shows flexibility in fielding different lineups. Maddon is good, but I think his bullpen decisions haven't been great the last two postseasons.

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Post by mister d » Wed Oct 11, 2017 8:29 pm

I go Maddon simply because I think we’ve reached a point where we can say he always gets more out of his teams than he should. He might age out of that or something, but it all works right now.

(Also, Jose Ramirez is just Jose Uribe after a new ID and some conditioning, right?
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Post by Rex » Wed Oct 11, 2017 9:00 pm

Boy, Bird's work at first tonight.

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Post by mister d » Wed Oct 11, 2017 9:08 pm

Francona again. What are you doing worrying about Chase Fucking Headley’s “good side” when it’s Andrew Miller.
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Post by mister d » Wed Oct 11, 2017 9:34 pm

mister d wrote:I’m gonna barf.
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Post by mister d » Wed Oct 11, 2017 9:41 pm

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Post by mister d » Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:17 pm

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Post by mister d » Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:23 pm

If there’s not a backup for one bad batter with Chapman, I’ll will lose my shit. This cannot be “his game”. Matchup to death.
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Post by Rex » Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:31 pm

I want to become a baseball writer so I can cast the only HOF vote for Gardner.

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Post by brian » Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:35 pm

Judge avoided a super sombrero and the Yankees are gonna win so that’s a good result.
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Post by mister d » Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:39 pm

Girardi can’t sit on this ...
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Post by mister d » Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:41 pm

Rex wrote:I want to become a baseball writer so I can cast the only HOF vote for Gardner.


I need to send you my texts from that PA. All-timer.
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Post by mister d » Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:53 pm

I’m very happy for Joe because he seems like a genuine dude. It still changes nothing if the team cares.
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Steve of phpBB wrote:It's just going to be that much more aggravating when the Yankees win this, isn't it?


Yup.


Yup.
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Post by rass » Wed Oct 11, 2017 11:02 pm

Based on retweets Kellyanne Conway is a Yankees fan. They're going to love visiting Trump.
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Post by cerrano » Wed Oct 11, 2017 11:06 pm

rass wrote:Based on retweets Kellyanne Conway is a Yankees fan. They're going to love visiting Trump.


There’s a relatively decent chance that the yanks will be visiting the wh no matter
who wins on the field. Fake news and whatnot.
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Post by Steve of phpBB » Wed Oct 11, 2017 11:06 pm

Joe K wrote:Not sure what the consensus is but I think Dave Roberts is the best manager in baseball. He makes strong tactical decisions with his bullpens and also shows flexibility in fielding different lineups.


Is this the same Dave Roberts who intentionally walked Chris Coghlan in the eighth inning of last year's NLCS Game One, with the game tied and runners on first and second? He had also intentionally walked Jason Freaking Heyward earlier that inning.
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Post by brian » Wed Oct 11, 2017 11:07 pm

If this means Houston-Washington is a likelier World Series, I’m all in. Also fuck the Indians.
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Post by sancarlos » Wed Oct 11, 2017 11:11 pm

cerrano wrote:
rass wrote:Based on retweets Kellyanne Conway is a Yankees fan. They're going to love visiting Trump.

There’s a relatively decent chance that the yanks will be visiting the wh no matter
who wins on the field. Fake news and whatnot.

We have a cerrano sighting!

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Post by mister d » Wed Oct 11, 2017 11:17 pm

Nice edit, Cerrano!
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Post by mister d » Wed Oct 11, 2017 11:45 pm

Oh god, Alex just nailed a joke there.
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Post by Jerloma » Thu Oct 12, 2017 8:55 am

I get that Judge's strike zone is bigger top to bottom than most...but why is it so fucking big left to right?
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Post by A_B » Thu Oct 12, 2017 8:57 am

Jerloma wrote:I get that Judge's strike zone is bigger top to bottom than most...but why is it so fucking big left to right?



Every pitcher was getting 2-3 inches off the plate all night, I thought.
certainly expansive during tactical areas and specific zones

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Post by mister d » Thu Oct 12, 2017 8:59 am

Everyone's was last night.

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Post by Giff » Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:39 am

So I should totally stand-up my date to the father/daughter dance Friday night, huh?
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Post by brian » Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:42 am

Giff wrote:So I should totally stand-up my date to the father/daughter dance Friday night, huh?


Maybe if it was a Game 7...
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Post by Giff » Thu Oct 12, 2017 10:21 am

brian wrote:
Giff wrote:So I should totally stand-up my date to the father/daughter dance Friday night, huh?


Maybe if it was a Game 7...


She's excited about watching the game on DVR once we get home, so I'm good!
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Post by A_B » Thu Oct 12, 2017 10:29 am

So...not to get all up in arms...but I think three crazy celebrations should be the limit. One when you clinch playoff spot. Another when you win LCS, another when you win World Series.
certainly expansive during tactical areas and specific zones

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Post by Jerloma » Thu Oct 12, 2017 10:30 am

Giff wrote:
brian wrote:
Giff wrote:So I should totally stand-up my date to the father/daughter dance Friday night, huh?


Maybe if it was a Game 7...


She's excited about watching the game on DVR once we get home, so I'm good!


You're gonna have a hard time not overhearing anything, aren't you?
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Jerloma wrote:
Giff wrote:
brian wrote:
Giff wrote:So I should totally stand-up my date to the father/daughter dance Friday night, huh?


Maybe if it was a Game 7...


She's excited about watching the game on DVR once we get home, so I'm good!


You're gonna have a hard time not overhearing anything, aren't you?


Doesn't matter. The Yankees are going to sweep the Astros.

And the Cubs are going to lose today 7-1.

Eat at Arby's.
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Post by mister d » Thu Oct 12, 2017 10:39 am

I think teams should celebrate like that after every win.
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Post by mister d » Thu Oct 12, 2017 10:41 am

Giff wrote:So I should totally stand-up my date to the father/daughter dance Friday night, huh?


Missing games is actually a positive thing. I didn't see more than some passing innings of G1 and G2 then saw all of G3-5. That's what you should do, except without the whole winning the series thing.
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Post by brian » Thu Oct 12, 2017 10:45 am

TFW winning home-field advantage by 1 game is "dominance".

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Post by degenerasian » Thu Oct 12, 2017 10:54 am

94 Expos won by 6 games!
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Post by Steve of phpBB » Thu Oct 12, 2017 11:02 am

brian wrote:TFW winning home-field advantage by 1 game is "dominance".



Cleveland won fewer games than the Dodgers - how could they be expected to win the World Series?
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Post by Giff » Thu Oct 12, 2017 11:03 am

mister d wrote:
Giff wrote:So I should totally stand-up my date to the father/daughter dance Friday night, huh?


Missing games is actually a positive thing. I didn't see more than some passing innings of G1 and G2 then saw all of G3-5. That's what you should do, except without the whole winning the series thing.


It's been 12 years since we've been that far. I'll be 53 if I have to wait that long again. I'm going to be watching every pitch.
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Post by Jerloma » Thu Oct 12, 2017 11:19 am

A_B wrote:
Jerloma wrote:I get that Judge's strike zone is bigger top to bottom than most...but why is it so fucking big left to right?



Every pitcher was getting 2-3 inches off the plate all night, I thought.


Well that probably explains the 58 strikeouts.
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Post by Joe K » Thu Oct 12, 2017 11:50 am

Steve of phpBB wrote:
brian wrote:TFW winning home-field advantage by 1 game is "dominance".



Cleveland won fewer games than the Dodgers - how could they be expected to win the World Series?

Also, once Houston traded for Verlander I think they had a better roster than Cleveland. Olney's reaction is classic recency bias. Cleveland had an incredible run in August and September but it was no more impressive than what the Dodgers did earlier in the season. Francona fell into that trap a bit as well, sticking with lineups that he played a lot during the win streak even though they were suboptimal -- and treating Bauer like an ace based on a fluky stretch instead of like the mediocre starter he has typical been.

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Post by mister d » Thu Oct 12, 2017 11:54 am

In Olney's defense, Cleveland's run diff torched the rest of the league. Gap b/w 1 and 2 was wider than the gap b/w 2 and 6.
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Joe K wrote:Not sure what the consensus is but I think Dave Roberts is the best manager in baseball. He makes strong tactical decisions with his bullpens and also shows flexibility in fielding different lineups.


Is this the same Dave Roberts who intentionally walked Chris Coghlan in the eighth inning of last year's NLCS Game One, with the game tied and runners on first and second? He had also intentionally walked Jason Freaking Heyward earlier that inning.

Eh, I could point to several significant errors that Maddon made in Game 7 of the World Series (pulling Hendricks too early, bringing in Lester mid-inning, etc.), so using one inning or game isn't exactly fair.

Roberts won 90+ games last year, despite an insane number of injuries, and had the team on pace to challenge the all-time wins record this year until they had that nightmare 4 week stretch. And if we're strictly looking at postseason performance, he was great in the NLDS vs. Washington last year.

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