Getting the Led out

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Re: Getting the Led out

Post by Jerloma » Fri Aug 08, 2014 10:32 am

Fool in the Rain without guitar, bass, keyboard or vocals is still pretty awesome.

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Re: Getting the Led out

Post by rass » Fri Jul 31, 2015 5:46 am

A rather thoroughly explained ranking of all 74 Zeppelin songs from their studio albums (minus Coda).

I skipped to the end/front and don't think I agree with #1, but I guess I'll try to read through the entire list before getting worked up.

You know what? It's just a list, and I'm not going to get worked up at all.
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Re: Getting the Led out

Post by rass » Fri Jul 31, 2015 6:01 am

OK, I lied.

Forget about the ranking, but Your Time is Gonna Come is misogynistic? If so, has there ever been a jilted lover/break up rock song that isn't?
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Re: Getting the Led out

Post by rass » Fri Jul 31, 2015 6:11 am

Hot Dog at 28?
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Re: Getting the Led out

Post by rass » Fri Jul 31, 2015 6:20 am

Jeez.... This guys HATES Bonzo...
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Re: Getting the Led out

Post by MaxWebster » Sat Aug 01, 2015 12:19 am

i actually hate 3 of the "top 5" - and i like Zeppelin.


(...i think...?)

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Re: Getting the Led out

Post by Pruitt » Sat Aug 01, 2015 5:22 am

MaxWebster wrote:i actually hate 3 of the "top 5" - and i like Zeppelin.


(...i think...?)
"Hate" might be a but strong, but that top 5 is very predictable.

Love Zeppelin, think my favorite comes in at #34 - weird to me, because "How Many More Times" is more than just a speaker-shredding epic... it is the blueprint for what made them one of the greatest bands of all time.
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Re: Getting the Led out

Post by MaxWebster » Mon Aug 03, 2015 9:41 pm

can't stand Kashmir. Whole Lotta Love is terrible, one riff, a lot of kinda-cool but now tough to listen to studio effects, an admittedly great solo, then the same old boring. Dazed and Confused bores me. my "I think...?" was me questioning whether i actually do like the band.

but then i see 39 What Is And What Should Never Be and goddammit everytime i put that vinyl on that's the song that f'ng kills me. possibly because if it were released today you'd never have to reach for the volume knob because it would be compressed to shit and all those sweet quiet parts would be just as loud as when Bonzo kicks it. That song is easily in my top 5 Zep. when you get into the list down in the 30s, 40s, 50s... some of my faves.

but i'm not anti-single by any means. e.g. Good Times Bad Times - killer.

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Re: Getting the Led out

Post by DC47 » Mon Aug 03, 2015 10:23 pm

I loved the early guitar riff songs and the blues done Zep style. But my list would push up half the songs on Houses of the Holy to the top 15. This is just a personal reaction, but that's what lists are.

I experienced that album as a real surprise. It was a change of artistic direction that worked -- in a domain where change usually means serious decline if not artistic bankruptcy. This album was much more sophisticated than early Zep. There were more interlaced parts that made the whole of each song, rather than a reliance on heavy riffing (as great as it was).

It was metaphorically like moving from listening to Zep on the radio or a cheap one-piece stereo, to listening to them on a state-of-the-art stereo system. The metaphor was actually the reality for me. It could be that I couldn't have dug Houses without having spent my college money on a killer stereo set-up. A few more years of listening to rock music helped too. I might not have taken to Houses earlier.

In any event, while I don't think Houses is uniformly great, the best half of those songs stand up well with the usual Greatest Hits list of power-riffing and mad drumming.

Oh, I also hate Kashmir.

I recall my deep disappointment that they couldn't continue combining a more sophisticated approach to music with recording something that had rock and roll soul. That was pretty much it for me appreciating new Zeppelin material. It was not a bad thing that they wrapped it up when they did.

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Re: Getting the Led out

Post by Rush2112 » Mon Aug 03, 2015 11:09 pm

DC47 wrote:
Oh, I also hate Kashmir.

You guys really need to smoke more dope (it's not in my top 10, but I can't say I haven't enjoyed it.)

Max, What Is... is the shite...I also love Fool In The Rain and All of My Love, but for memory specific reasons.
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Re: Getting the Led out

Post by DC47 » Tue Aug 04, 2015 12:42 am

I did my share. And it was no doubt part of my connection to the inner workings of Houses of the Holy. But it would have taken harder stuff for me to really get behind Kashmir. Hate is too strong. But I was deeply disappointed. Like when the Eagles, who I dug from the first album (and who opened at the first rock concert I saw), went all disco and ballady. Okay, not quite that bad.

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Re: Getting the Led out

Post by Pruitt » Tue Aug 04, 2015 5:43 am

Like "Kashmir" and used to love it.

How about that "Achilles Last Stand?" I may still be able to put a solid ten minutes on the air guitar to that epic.
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Re: Getting the Led out

Post by Shirley » Tue Aug 04, 2015 8:46 am

I'm with Max on What Is... Great song. Zeppelin II has always been my favorite Zep album. Just great from start to finish, that takes you up and down, loud and quiet. As a kid, Ramble On was always my favorite Zeppelin song, but Bring It On Home has always been a secret favorite as well. I love that you never hear it on the radio.

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Re: Getting the Led out

Post by Jerloma » Tue Aug 04, 2015 8:59 am

Bring It On Home makes me want to jump through a fucking wall. Definitely in my top 10.

Kashmir - not so much.
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Re: Getting the Led out

Post by sancarlos » Tue Aug 04, 2015 11:01 am

Many favorite Zeppelin songs aren't that highly ranked. My two favorites are The Rover, and Rock and Roll. Not a big Kashmir fan. I never turn the radio away from certain other songs, like Trampled Under Foot, Communication Breakdown, Over the Hills and Far Away, Song Remains the Same, Boogie with Stu, Houses of the Holy...
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Re: Getting the Led out

Post by DaveInSeattle » Tue Aug 04, 2015 11:31 am

My fave LZ song (The Rain Song) came in at #27.

That list is a traveshamockery.

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Re: Getting the Led out

Post by DC47 » Tue Aug 04, 2015 7:41 pm

Pruitt wrote:Like "Kashmir" and used to love it.

How about that "Achilles Last Stand?" I may still be able to put a solid ten minutes on the air guitar to that epic.
I once could. But I think I'd need to go with the air bong to do it today.

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Re: Getting the Led out

Post by Jerloma » Wed Apr 26, 2017 10:03 am

"A-do-do-do, ba-ba-n-do, oh. Ma, ma, ma, ma, ma, ma, yeah."

We'll allow it.

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Re: Getting the Led out

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Re: Getting the Led out

Post by rass » Sat May 09, 2020 2:06 pm

Bass line in How Many More Times is predatory.
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Re: Getting the Led out

Post by Pruitt » Sat May 09, 2020 4:46 pm

rass wrote:
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Bass line in How Many More Times is predatory.
That whole song is predatory.

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Re: Getting the Led out

Post by rass » Fri May 22, 2020 6:00 pm

SXM doing a top 50 songs as voted by the listeners.
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Re: Getting the Led out

Post by rass » Fri May 22, 2020 6:30 pm

And this is all in good fun and not a big deal but I take issue with Gallows Pole in the 30s...
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Re: Getting the Led out

Post by rass » Fri May 22, 2020 6:35 pm

And Tangerine next??? Anti-LZIII bias!
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Re: Getting the Led out

Post by rass » Fri May 22, 2020 6:36 pm

(between this and yacht rock I might need to lay off SXM)
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Re: Getting the Led out

Post by rass » Fri May 22, 2020 6:46 pm

30 songs better than what is and what shall never be????
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Re: Getting the Led out

Post by teeteebee » Fri May 22, 2020 7:58 pm

rass wrote:
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30 songs better than what is and what shall never be????
That’s low teens at worst. Incredible catalog but agree that’s too far back.
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Re: Getting the Led out

Post by A_B » Fri May 22, 2020 8:01 pm

My top ten zep songs would probably be different from day to day.
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Re: Getting the Led out

Post by teeteebee » Fri May 22, 2020 8:04 pm

A_B wrote:
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My top ten zep songs would probably be different from day to day.
Fair point but black dog has to always be in there somewhere.
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Re: Getting the Led out

Post by A_B » Fri May 22, 2020 8:06 pm

teeteebee wrote:
Fri May 22, 2020 8:04 pm
A_B wrote:
Fri May 22, 2020 8:01 pm
My top ten zep songs would probably be different from day to day.
Fair point but black dog has to always be in there somewhere.
Weirdly my top two are when the levee breaks and going to California but black dog is probably a solid 3.
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Re: Getting the Led out

Post by mister d » Fri May 22, 2020 8:08 pm

You guys ever heard the stairs to heaven song?
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Re: Getting the Led out

Post by A_B » Fri May 22, 2020 8:09 pm

mister d wrote:
Fri May 22, 2020 8:08 pm
You guys ever heard the stairs to heaven song?
Don’t you have a The National song you think is slightly overrated but still really good?
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Re: Getting the Led out

Post by teeteebee » Fri May 22, 2020 8:11 pm

A_B wrote:
Fri May 22, 2020 8:06 pm
teeteebee wrote:
Fri May 22, 2020 8:04 pm
A_B wrote:
Fri May 22, 2020 8:01 pm
My top ten zep songs would probably be different from day to day.
Fair point but black dog has to always be in there somewhere.
Weirdly my top two are when the levee breaks and going to California but black dog is probably a solid 3.
Agreed. Black dog isn’t hands down #1 but it’s too good and always comes through.

D - my top 3 are stairway (has to be), black dog and a mix of 5-6 that rotate - like AB intimated above.
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Re: Getting the Led out

Post by teeteebee » Fri May 22, 2020 8:12 pm

Also Kashmir lost appeal to me when they let Combs use it but it such an awesome song.
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Re: Getting the Led out

Post by mister d » Fri May 22, 2020 8:17 pm

As a serious devotee to another band(s) I don’t at all want to detract from the nerdery here ... but does it bother you all that Stairway is the song? I feel like if I loved Zepplin I’d be furious that’s what non-fan dickheads like me first thought of.
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Re: Getting the Led out

Post by Pruitt » Fri May 22, 2020 8:26 pm



ETA: Jimmy Fucking Page!!!
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Re: Getting the Led out

Post by teeteebee » Fri May 22, 2020 8:43 pm

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ETA: Jimmy Fucking Page!!!
Indeed.

Will be interesting to see how this shapes up.

And D, I agree, Stairway gets the shine but it is a flat out great song.

If we went through PJ songs - I kind of think Ledbetter is a similarity.
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Re: Getting the Led out

Post by mister d » Fri May 22, 2020 8:47 pm

But Pearl Jam’s song is “Jeremy”, right?
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Re: Getting the Led out

Post by teeteebee » Fri May 22, 2020 8:53 pm

mister d wrote:
Fri May 22, 2020 8:47 pm
But Pearl Jam’s song is “Jeremy”, right?
Perhaps. Maybe I’m looking at it wrongly.
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Re: Getting the Led out

Post by teeteebee » Fri May 22, 2020 8:55 pm

Top 10 but I’m thinking top 5 - 9 times out of 10.

Going to California. Love it!!
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