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Are apple skins getting thicker?
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rass wrote:Enjoying Envys.


From TJ's? Quite solid.
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P.D.X. wrote:
rass wrote:Enjoying Envys.


From TJ's? Quite solid.


No, but I'll look for them there next time because they'll probably be cheaper.
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Last night, I bought my fourth batch of honeycrisps for the season, which is tremendous.

I also saw pumpkin spice Twinkies for sale, which is markedly less tremendous.
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SweeTangoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. (Although this one I'm having right now from stupid Shaw's is nowhere near as good as the super secret care package ones. Which, duh.)

I've never had an Envy but they were $.50 more than STs and HCs at the store this morning. Are they that good?
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I really like them, but they're like a super-duper-awesome Gala to the extreme and Gala's are my favorite available year round option.

What I'm not sure on is how much of my preference is cosmetic. HC's were cheaper at my supermarket this week and I went with Envy's because they weren't shiny like the HC and had a more pleasing red coloring. Brains. How do they work?
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I also find envy's visually appealing. Also, they're very slow to brown when cut.
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Birds don’t suck. They lack the necessary anatomical structures to do so.
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Honeycrisp being a year round thing is nice, but I wish sweetangos were, too!
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A_B wrote: Mon May 21, 2018 11:28 am Honeycrisp being a year round thing is nice, but I wish sweetangos were, too!
The HCs here are only worth it getting in the fall, when they are from New York. The Washington State HCs we get the rest of the year are much smaller, harder, and less juicy.
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The one I had just now was pretty dang good.
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The Sybian wrote: Mon May 21, 2018 11:54 amThe HCs here are only worth it getting in the fall, when they are from New York. The Washington State HCs we get the rest of the year are much smaller, harder, and less juicy.
I'm going to avoid the obvious ... by phrasing this as "am I the only one who prefers those first two characteristics you complained about"?
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Anyone ever had a Pinata? They recently started showing up in the local store, and they are quite good. Firm, but not as sweet as the honeycrisp, and not as big. Perfect for having at lunch time.
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DaveInSeattle wrote: Wed May 23, 2018 12:22 am Anyone ever had a Pinata? They recently started showing up in the local store, and they are quite good. Firm, but not as sweet as the honeycrisp, and not as big. Perfect for having at lunch time.
Yeah, they've been around here for a couple years.
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Sounds like a sweetango (also known as king of all apples) wannabe.
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While waiting for the sweetangos I am enjoying this honeycrisp , inferior though it may be.
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CosmicCrisps are some delicious fucking apples.
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bfj wrote: Fri Jan 03, 2020 5:19 pm CosmicCrisps are some delicious fucking apples.
Just got some of those at the local grocery store myself. I agree.
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brian wrote: Fri Jan 03, 2020 5:19 pm
bfj wrote: Fri Jan 03, 2020 5:19 pm CosmicCrisps are some delicious fucking apples.
Just got some of those at the local grocery store myself. I agree.
They are quite good. I guess there's an ongoing lawsuit between Washington State Univ (where it was developed) and their private partner about the patent and distribution of them.
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DaveInSeattle wrote: Fri Jan 03, 2020 5:33 pm
brian wrote: Fri Jan 03, 2020 5:19 pm
bfj wrote: Fri Jan 03, 2020 5:19 pm CosmicCrisps are some delicious fucking apples.
Just got some of those at the local grocery store myself. I agree.
They are quite good. I guess there's an ongoing lawsuit between Washington State Univ (where it was developed) and their private partner about the patent and distribution of them.
Be prepared for them to take over the world. The investment in planting them in WA is gargantuan. I have to report holdings in storage every month for USApple Association and they added them to the form this year, removing Jonagold.

Anyone had an Evercrisp? Honeycrisp/Fuji cross. Hard as rock, last forever, taste really good.

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Diamond wrote: Mon Jan 06, 2020 1:19 pm
DaveInSeattle wrote: Fri Jan 03, 2020 5:33 pm
brian wrote: Fri Jan 03, 2020 5:19 pm
bfj wrote: Fri Jan 03, 2020 5:19 pm CosmicCrisps are some delicious fucking apples.
Just got some of those at the local grocery store myself. I agree.
They are quite good. I guess there's an ongoing lawsuit between Washington State Univ (where it was developed) and their private partner about the patent and distribution of them.
Be prepared for them to take over the world. The investment in planting them in WA is gargantuan. I have to report holdings in storage every month for USApple Association and they added them to the form this year, removing Jonagold.

Anyone had an Evercrisp? Honeycrisp/Fuji cross. Hard as rock, last forever, taste really good.

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How do orchards deal with the changing trends in apples? Let's say you have a large section of Braeburns, and the market suddenly doesn't want them, but is going nuts over SweeTangos or CosmicCrisps. Do orchard owners (farmers?) remove Braeburn trees and replace them with CosmicCrisps? How long does it take a new tree to become productive? Do the creators of new varieties stockpile mature trees and sell them when the buzz gets out? I have absolutely no concept of the apple business, but this concept fascinates me.
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The Sybian wrote: Mon Jan 06, 2020 4:55 pm
Diamond wrote: Mon Jan 06, 2020 1:19 pm
DaveInSeattle wrote: Fri Jan 03, 2020 5:33 pm
brian wrote: Fri Jan 03, 2020 5:19 pm
bfj wrote: Fri Jan 03, 2020 5:19 pm CosmicCrisps are some delicious fucking apples.
Just got some of those at the local grocery store myself. I agree.
They are quite good. I guess there's an ongoing lawsuit between Washington State Univ (where it was developed) and their private partner about the patent and distribution of them.
Be prepared for them to take over the world. The investment in planting them in WA is gargantuan. I have to report holdings in storage every month for USApple Association and they added them to the form this year, removing Jonagold.

Anyone had an Evercrisp? Honeycrisp/Fuji cross. Hard as rock, last forever, taste really good.

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How do orchards deal with the changing trends in apples? Let's say you have a large section of Braeburns, and the market suddenly doesn't want them, but is going nuts over SweeTangos or CosmicCrisps. Do orchard owners (farmers?) remove Braeburn trees and replace them with CosmicCrisps? How long does it take a new tree to become productive? Do the creators of new varieties stockpile mature trees and sell them when the buzz gets out? I have absolutely no concept of the apple business, but this concept fascinates me.
Planet Money talked a bit about this
https://www.npr.org/sections/money/2018 ... -the-world
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The Sybian wrote: Mon Jan 06, 2020 4:55 pm
Diamond wrote: Mon Jan 06, 2020 1:19 pm
DaveInSeattle wrote: Fri Jan 03, 2020 5:33 pm
brian wrote: Fri Jan 03, 2020 5:19 pm
bfj wrote: Fri Jan 03, 2020 5:19 pm CosmicCrisps are some delicious fucking apples.
Just got some of those at the local grocery store myself. I agree.
They are quite good. I guess there's an ongoing lawsuit between Washington State Univ (where it was developed) and their private partner about the patent and distribution of them.
Be prepared for them to take over the world. The investment in planting them in WA is gargantuan. I have to report holdings in storage every month for USApple Association and they added them to the form this year, removing Jonagold.

Anyone had an Evercrisp? Honeycrisp/Fuji cross. Hard as rock, last forever, taste really good.

edit:sp
How do orchards deal with the changing trends in apples? Let's say you have a large section of Braeburns, and the market suddenly doesn't want them, but is going nuts over SweeTangos or CosmicCrisps. Do orchard owners (farmers?) remove Braeburn trees and replace them with CosmicCrisps? How long does it take a new tree to become productive? Do the creators of new varieties stockpile mature trees and sell them when the buzz gets out? I have absolutely no concept of the apple business, but this concept fascinates me.
It's gotten very industrial in the last 30 years or so. Everything is planted on dwarfing rootstock supported by trellis and trained to maximize fruit production (apples) over vegetative growth (tree). New plantings are very high-density in terms of trees/acre and are expensive. New plantings become productive after three or four years, so the incentive is high to replace less-profitable varieties with newer ones. Nurseries don't stock mature trees for the industry, though I know guys who will move a mature tree with a big tulip-looking digger for landscape customers. These new trademarked varieties are really expanding, everybody and her uncle has their own proprietary variety they're pushing. They won't all make it, either. There will be blood on the orchard floor, so to speak.
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Diamond wrote: Mon Jan 06, 2020 8:56 pm
The Sybian wrote: Mon Jan 06, 2020 4:55 pm
Diamond wrote: Mon Jan 06, 2020 1:19 pm
DaveInSeattle wrote: Fri Jan 03, 2020 5:33 pm
brian wrote: Fri Jan 03, 2020 5:19 pm
bfj wrote: Fri Jan 03, 2020 5:19 pm CosmicCrisps are some delicious fucking apples.
Just got some of those at the local grocery store myself. I agree.
They are quite good. I guess there's an ongoing lawsuit between Washington State Univ (where it was developed) and their private partner about the patent and distribution of them.
Be prepared for them to take over the world. The investment in planting them in WA is gargantuan. I have to report holdings in storage every month for USApple Association and they added them to the form this year, removing Jonagold.

Anyone had an Evercrisp? Honeycrisp/Fuji cross. Hard as rock, last forever, taste really good.

edit:sp
How do orchards deal with the changing trends in apples? Let's say you have a large section of Braeburns, and the market suddenly doesn't want them, but is going nuts over SweeTangos or CosmicCrisps. Do orchard owners (farmers?) remove Braeburn trees and replace them with CosmicCrisps? How long does it take a new tree to become productive? Do the creators of new varieties stockpile mature trees and sell them when the buzz gets out? I have absolutely no concept of the apple business, but this concept fascinates me.
It's gotten very industrial in the last 30 years or so. Everything is planted on dwarfing rootstock supported by trellis and trained to maximize fruit production (apples) over vegetative growth (tree). New plantings are very high-density in terms of trees/acre and are expensive. New plantings become productive after three or four years, so the incentive is high to replace less-profitable varieties with newer ones. Nurseries don't stock mature trees for the industry, though I know guys who will move a mature tree with a big tulip-looking digger for landscape customers. These new trademarked varieties are really expanding, everybody and her uncle has their own proprietary variety they're pushing. They won't all make it, either. There will be blood on the orchard floor, so to speak.
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Diamond wrote: Mon Jan 06, 2020 1:19 pm
DaveInSeattle wrote: Fri Jan 03, 2020 5:33 pm
brian wrote: Fri Jan 03, 2020 5:19 pm
bfj wrote: Fri Jan 03, 2020 5:19 pm CosmicCrisps are some delicious fucking apples.
Just got some of those at the local grocery store myself. I agree.
They are quite good. I guess there's an ongoing lawsuit between Washington State Univ (where it was developed) and their private partner about the patent and distribution of them.
Be prepared for them to take over the world. The investment in planting them in WA is gargantuan. I have to report holdings in storage every month for USApple Association and they added them to the form this year, removing Jonagold.

Anyone had an Evercrisp? Honeycrisp/Fuji cross. Hard as rock, last forever, taste really good.

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You made one post in 2019. Glad to see you. Hope all is well. I haven’t had an Evercrisp. I had something called a Sugarbee apple the other day and it was really good.
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I had a Juci this weekend. It was flat awful. But I didn't at the time realize it was a Honeycrisp/Braeburn cross, and I don't much care for Braeburns. It was like eating sawdust.
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Is it apple season somewhere?
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bfj wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2020 8:00 am
Diamond wrote: Mon Jan 06, 2020 1:19 pm
DaveInSeattle wrote: Fri Jan 03, 2020 5:33 pm
brian wrote: Fri Jan 03, 2020 5:19 pm
bfj wrote: Fri Jan 03, 2020 5:19 pm CosmicCrisps are some delicious fucking apples.
Just got some of those at the local grocery store myself. I agree.
They are quite good. I guess there's an ongoing lawsuit between Washington State Univ (where it was developed) and their private partner about the patent and distribution of them.
Be prepared for them to take over the world. The investment in planting them in WA is gargantuan. I have to report holdings in storage every month for USApple Association and they added them to the form this year, removing Jonagold.

Anyone had an Evercrisp? Honeycrisp/Fuji cross. Hard as rock, last forever, taste really good.

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You made one post in 2019. Glad to see you. Hope all is well. I haven’t had an Evercrisp. I had something called a Sugarbee apple the other day and it was really good.
I am well, thanks for thinking of me. Hope you and all the swampers are keeping on keeping on.

Just had a Sugar Bee yesterday. It was too sweet for me. These new honeycrisp crosses are getting so numerous I can't keep track.
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HaulCitgo wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2020 10:50 am Is it apple season somewhere?
It's a couple months from apple season in the southern hemisphere. Chile, Argentina, New Zealand, Australia, South Africa.
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Had a CosmiCrisp yesterday... I'll give it another shot, as I may not have had a good one. It was slightly mealy, though not at all soft. Hard to explain. It was also a little too sweet. It was still decent, but I want to try another one to see if it was just an off apple, or not my jam.
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Diamond wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2020 10:10 pm
bfj wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2020 8:00 am
Diamond wrote: Mon Jan 06, 2020 1:19 pm
DaveInSeattle wrote: Fri Jan 03, 2020 5:33 pm
brian wrote: Fri Jan 03, 2020 5:19 pm
bfj wrote: Fri Jan 03, 2020 5:19 pm CosmicCrisps are some delicious fucking apples.
Just got some of those at the local grocery store myself. I agree.
They are quite good. I guess there's an ongoing lawsuit between Washington State Univ (where it was developed) and their private partner about the patent and distribution of them.
Be prepared for them to take over the world. The investment in planting them in WA is gargantuan. I have to report holdings in storage every month for USApple Association and they added them to the form this year, removing Jonagold.

Anyone had an Evercrisp? Honeycrisp/Fuji cross. Hard as rock, last forever, taste really good.

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You made one post in 2019. Glad to see you. Hope all is well. I haven’t had an Evercrisp. I had something called a Sugarbee apple the other day and it was really good.
I am well, thanks for thinking of me. Hope you and all the swampers are keeping on keeping on.

Just had a Sugar Bee yesterday. It was too sweet for me. These new honeycrisp crosses are getting so numerous I can't keep track.
I have a cosmic crisp waiting for me that I am about to eat. Excited about it.

Update: Solid, but no sweetango nor honeycrisp. The peel is the problem. Lot of red delicious vibes in that peel. Would benefit form peeling, but who has time for that?
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The Sybian wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2020 10:25 pm Had a CosmiCrisp yesterday... I'll give it another shot, as I may not have had a good one. It was slightly mealy, though not at all soft. Hard to explain. It was also a little too sweet. It was still decent, but I want to try another one to see if it was just an off apple, or not my jam.
Had a much better CosmicCrisp. Still too sweet, but the consistency was good. Like AB, I much prefer a Honeycrisp or Sweetango.
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Just tried a new (to me) variety. Autumn Glory. Very crisp and sweet. The description said caramel and cinnamon, but my daughter nailed it. It has a very prominent taste of honey. She didn't like it, apparently she doesn't like honey. I really enjoyed it and will definitely by it again, but I still prefer Honeycrisps and SweeTango. Autumn Glory lacks any tartness to contrast the sweet, so it's a bit one-note.
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We’ve found a new apple we like called a Sugarbee apple. Very tasty.
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Been drinking apple cider by the gallon since fallish. Have to go to Publix to get for some reason. The Kroger and other have the nonrefrigerated substandard version. What's the deal. Is that other stuff still cider? What is it that I am looking for. It's $8 gal so I've probably spent a couple hundred. Why does do most mainstream grocers not carry? How long before it's likely to disappear for the season. Tempted to hoard some.
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Understandable. Fresh cider is bomb.
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HaulCitgo wrote: Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:23 pm Been drinking apple cider by the gallon since fallish. Have to go to Publix to get for some reason. The Kroger and other have the nonrefrigerated substandard version. What's the deal. Is that other stuff still cider? What is it that I am looking for. It's $8 gal so I've probably spent a couple hundred. Why does do most mainstream grocers not carry? How long before it's likely to disappear for the season. Tempted to hoard some.
I think it goes bad really quickly, like in a week, so it's expensive and creates waste if it doesn't sell quickly. On the plus side, it ferments into alcohol. Got a nice buzz off old cider in Hebrew school.
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