(The End of) Journalism Thread

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Wed Nov 19, 2014 10:59 am

rass wrote:CNN host asks alleged (Bill Cosby) rape victim why she didn't just bite off her attacker's dick

Wow. I've said many times in this thread, how does he continue to have a job?

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Wed Dec 10, 2014 9:25 am

I was curious as to how Fox news would respond to the Senate report on CIA torture. I wish I hadn't been.

The fun really starts around 2:30 when they go to the couch. "America is awesome!"

Pointing out the stupidity of Fox News is like shooting fish in a barrel, but there is something very disturbing about this segment. I am reminded of an old Fall song "Who Makes The Nazis" which had a line about "intellectual half wits" helping make do just that. This is what fascist TV looks like.

The Sybian · Post by **The Sybian** » Wed Dec 10, 2014 1:53 pm

Pruitt wrote:I was curious as to how Fox news would respond to the Senate report on CIA torture. I wish I hadn't been.

The fun really starts around 2:30 when they go to the couch. "America is awesome!"

Pointing out the stupidity of Fox News is like shooting fish in a barrel, but there is something very disturbing about this segment. I am reminded of an old Fall song "Who Makes The Nazis" which had a line about "intellectual half wits" helping make do just that. This is what fascist TV looks like.

Guh. so the timing is politically motivated? Is there a single day, ever, that Fox would not call the timing politically motivated? How can people, with a straight face, say they don't care or don't want to know if our government is torturing. Absolutely sickening. Saying "post 9/11, everyone was scared" is ridiculous. During war or facing a 9/11 situation is when we need to hold our government to abiding by the law. It is Japanese internment camps all over again. You can't just throw out human rights because you are scared. The worst, though, is the argument, "but ISIS is doing it!" Foreign policy needs to be a step up from a 5 year olds whiny logic about fairness. Essentially, that is saying that America should not be held to a higher standard than a ragtag band of fundamentalist terrorists. FFS, if you love America, hold your government in higher regard than ISIS.

Also brings up the 8 years under Bush where it was anti-American to criticize the President, or even question whether we should invade Iraq. But it is perfectly OK to rail on that the next President hates America, is trying to institute Sharia Law, protest with lynched effigies, you get the point. How do we get back to the point of being able to have a rational conversation with people with opposing views? I wonder how much is the internet allowing us to read idiotic ramblings, name calling, trolling, etc... that always would have been there, but i was sheltered from these people, how much is the divisiveness of hate spewing media and politicians abiding by the divisions?

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Wed Dec 10, 2014 2:16 pm

Rage. That's all I feel when watching Fox News. Pure, unadulterated rage.

Oh, and add that Spanish chick in the maroon top to my hatefuck list, btw. Rawr.

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Mon Dec 15, 2014 9:44 am

Two weeks ago, the New York Times - and other respectable outlets - reported that Pope Francis told a sad kid in St. Peter's square not to grieve too much over his sick dog because there's a place in heaven for dead pets.

The hell he did.

http://www.religionnews.com/2014/12/12/ ... ng-heaven/

Yes, a version of that quotation was uttered by a pope, but it was said decades ago by Paul VI, who died in 1978. There is no evidence that Francis repeated the words during his public audience on Nov. 26, as has been widely reported, nor was there was a boy mourning his dead dog.

The article has a nice summation of how the false story spread.

Brontoburglar · Post by **Brontoburglar** » Tue Dec 23, 2014 8:32 pm

oh holy shit

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Tue Dec 23, 2014 10:03 pm

Brontoburglar wrote:oh holy shit

Remarkable.

howard · Post by **howard** » Tue Dec 23, 2014 10:04 pm

Just par for the course.

The Sybian · Post by **The Sybian** » Wed Dec 24, 2014 11:36 am

Brontoburglar wrote:oh holy shit

Greta gave an almost correction. She wrote that "some say" the Twitter feed is a hoax. Holy fuck, read the tweets in the feed, couldn't be more obvious it is a parody. Not to mention, the writer proved to her it was a hoax, but no, no retraction or correction. Greta is just a horrible person.

DSafetyGuy · Post by **DSafetyGuy** » Wed Dec 24, 2014 12:45 pm

howard wrote:Just par for the course.

Exactly.

howard · Post by **howard** » Fri Dec 26, 2014 6:29 pm

A nice essay about sheep, amongst other things.

2014: The Year Propaganda Came Of Age

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Thu Jan 08, 2015 6:08 pm

Don Lemon asks Muslim human rights lawyer, 'Do you support ISIS?'

rass · Post by **rass** » Thu Mar 26, 2015 3:02 pm

cross post to the plane crash thread...

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Fri Mar 27, 2015 4:34 am

rass wrote:cross post to the plane crash thread...

Maybe in journalism school they stress the need to show people things as opposed to merely telling them.

Here's what happened in picture form...

Brontoburglar · Post by **Brontoburglar** » Thu Apr 16, 2015 8:58 pm

I figure Britt McHenry isn't worth a new thread

howard · Post by **howard** » Thu Apr 16, 2015 9:00 pm

“I’m in the news sweetheart…"

You got that right, sweetheart. Of course, sports reporting isn't journalism, but I'll allow it.

rass · Post by **rass** » Thu Apr 16, 2015 9:55 pm

Brontoburglar wrote:I figure Britt McHenry isn't worth a new thread

I was with you when I first watched it, but towing companies really are the worst. And apparently there are serious issues with them in Arlington. She should have just kept it to profanity and avoided the personal appearance stuff, but I can almost understand.

Johnny Carwash · Post by **Johnny Carwash** » Fri Apr 17, 2015 7:39 am

Yeah, I'm with rass. I was about to post that with a "what a bitch" comment, but gave it a second thought. The video appeared to be edited to only show her responses--it's possible she was being legitimately screwed over. Plus that company has an average rating of like 1.2 stars. It doesn't excuse the extreme mean-spiritedness and she may well be an awful person, but some context is missing.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Fri Apr 17, 2015 7:43 am

Who the fuck would rate a towing service 5 stars?

Ryan · Post by **Ryan** » Fri Apr 17, 2015 7:45 am

I wonder if she would have been suspended if she was a fat and balding and came up with silly nicknames for people while berating coworkers on tape

Brontoburglar · Post by **Brontoburglar** » Fri Apr 17, 2015 9:15 am

rass wrote:
Brontoburglar wrote:I figure Britt McHenry isn't worth a new thread
I was with you when I first watched it, but towing companies really are the worst. And apparently there are serious issues with them in Arlington. She should have just kept it to profanity and avoided the personal appearance stuff, but I can almost understand.

With me on what?

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Fri Apr 17, 2015 9:18 am

Brontoburglar wrote:
rass wrote:
Brontoburglar wrote:I figure Britt McHenry isn't worth a new thread
I was with you when I first watched it, but towing companies really are the worst. And apparently there are serious issues with them in Arlington. She should have just kept it to profanity and avoided the personal appearance stuff, but I can almost understand.
With me on what?

The virtue of lifting heavy things.

Brontoburglar · Post by **Brontoburglar** » Fri Apr 17, 2015 9:26 am

govmentchedda wrote:
Brontoburglar wrote:
rass wrote:
Brontoburglar wrote:I figure Britt McHenry isn't worth a new thread
I was with you when I first watched it, but towing companies really are the worst. And apparently there are serious issues with them in Arlington. She should have just kept it to profanity and avoided the personal appearance stuff, but I can almost understand.
With me on what?
The virtue of lifting heavy things.

I'm on a glorious island on that one.

(I wasn't asking to be snarky either. Legitimately wondering what you thought I meant because I figured it was post worthy and posted it here. Not as a statement of any sort about it as I'm good with not contributing an analysis.)

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Fri Apr 17, 2015 9:40 am

I'm on that island with you. I do need to get my fat ass out running a bit more though.

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Fri Apr 17, 2015 10:02 am

The line from the towing company is that she parked in a lot for a restaurant, then went to a bar afterwards, leaving the car in the private lot 2 hours after the restaurant closed.

There are predatory towing companies out there, and it sure sounds like this one falls into that category. But it sure seems plausible she just fucked up and then threw a fit (likely a few drinks into the evening... totally speculating, obvi).

The big problem for Brit (aside from the annoying name), is that she went full "do you know who I am" in a situation where, frankly, "no, I have no idea who the fuck you are" is a pretty reasonable response. She's a sideline Barbie doll that I couldn't pick out of a lineup 10 minutes after seeing her on the air.

She can take her one week suspension to ponder "Do I know who I am?"

Ryan · Post by **Ryan** » Fri Apr 17, 2015 10:12 am

If they really fucked her over specifically, or it was plainly obvious that shitty business practice was common there, then "do you know who I am" as a lead in to "I'm in television" doesn't really bother me. In other words, if it was meant more as "I can ruin you" rather than "I'm famous, treat me as such".

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Fri Apr 17, 2015 10:15 am

The "do you know who i am" bothers me MUCH less than the attacking the person's education, looks, etc.

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Fri Apr 17, 2015 10:19 am

Tow truck drivers just need to make a living...

But because of the way they do it, they really are among the lowest of the low.

Here in Toronto, you always see a couple of them idling at highway on ramps. The Ottawa police even ran a sting on them recently...

http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canad ... r-be-fined

Police say trucks competing for towing contracts are breaking a city bylaw when they park within 100 metres of an accident scene and try to solicit business from motorists.

Sgt. John Kiss, who manages the Ottawa police towing contracts, said the tow-truck races have become so aggressive that Ottawa police have staged fake accidents to ticket drivers who police say are chasing collisions.

“They cause a traffic hazard, they are aggressive towards motorists trying to get their business,” said Kiss. “They are aggressive towards each other: We’ve charged them for assaulting each other at collision scenes, so it’s a bit of a free for all, unfortunately.”

...

So what is a driver to do when they get into a fender bender? Kiss advises calling your insurance company for a recommendation or risk being charged “outrageous towing costs and storage fees.”

Johnny Carwash · Post by **Johnny Carwash** » Fri Apr 17, 2015 11:01 am

AB_skin_test wrote:Who the fuck would rate a towing service 5 stars?

Plenty of people who use other towing companies in the area, apparently. (The one in question is #3.)

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Fri Apr 17, 2015 11:13 am

I guess if you breakdown and they come tow you quickly that's one hing. Was just considering people whose cars were towed against their will. I didn't get a lot of sleep.

rass · Post by **rass** » Fri Apr 17, 2015 11:43 am

Brontoburglar wrote:
rass wrote:
Brontoburglar wrote:I figure Britt McHenry isn't worth a new thread
I was with you when I first watched it, but towing companies really are the worst. And apparently there are serious issues with them in Arlington. She should have just kept it to profanity and avoided the personal appearance stuff, but I can almost understand.
With me on what?

Why did you post it in this thread?

Brontoburglar · Post by **Brontoburglar** » Fri Apr 17, 2015 12:02 pm

rass wrote:
Brontoburglar wrote:
rass wrote:
Brontoburglar wrote:I figure Britt McHenry isn't worth a new thread
I was with you when I first watched it, but towing companies really are the worst. And apparently there are serious issues with them in Arlington. She should have just kept it to profanity and avoided the personal appearance stuff, but I can almost understand.
With me on what?
Why did you post it in this thread?

because it was the dominant news item of the day and we don't have a "media members making headlines" thread?

rass · Post by **rass** » Fri Apr 17, 2015 12:10 pm

Brontoburglar wrote:
rass wrote:
Brontoburglar wrote:
rass wrote:
Brontoburglar wrote:I figure Britt McHenry isn't worth a new thread
I was with you when I first watched it, but towing companies really are the worst. And apparently there are serious issues with them in Arlington. She should have just kept it to profanity and avoided the personal appearance stuff, but I can almost understand.
With me on what?
Why did you post it in this thread?
because it was the dominant news item of the day and we don't have a "media members making headlines" thread?

Right. This is more a "the media sucks at performing its intended functions" or "a media member fucks up" thread. And you really can't understand that I might take your posting it here to mean you were judging her actions? C'mon.

Brontoburglar · Post by **Brontoburglar** » Fri Apr 17, 2015 12:25 pm

rass wrote:
Brontoburglar wrote:
rass wrote:
Brontoburglar wrote:
rass wrote:
Brontoburglar wrote:I figure Britt McHenry isn't worth a new thread
I was with you when I first watched it, but towing companies really are the worst. And apparently there are serious issues with them in Arlington. She should have just kept it to profanity and avoided the personal appearance stuff, but I can almost understand.
With me on what?
Why did you post it in this thread?
because it was the dominant news item of the day and we don't have a "media members making headlines" thread?
Right. This is more a "the media sucks at performing its intended functions" or "a media member fucks up" thread.

so....

I think you can call this a "fuck up" without getting into a psychoanalysis of the whole thing.

And you really can't understand that I might take your posting it here to mean you were judging her actions? C'mon.

No, rather I was asking what you inferred by my post when you said "with you." C'mon. (I think my lack of seriousness when it comes to this topic is being underestimated severely)

rass · Post by **rass** » Fri Apr 17, 2015 12:29 pm

Brontoburglar wrote:(I think my lack of seriousness when it comes to this topic is being underestimated severely)

Whatever. Just post your cute little clips in the random videos thread and keep out of the deep waters of the end of journalism thread. howard won't always be around to throw you a lifeline.

Brontoburglar · Post by **Brontoburglar** » Fri Apr 17, 2015 12:32 pm

I can say with honesty that, as someone who can't remember the last time he clicked the random videos thread, I missed that one.

Brontoburglar · Post by **Brontoburglar** » Fri Apr 17, 2015 12:35 pm

And I will say that 10-years-ago me likely doesn't have the same reaction - or posting habits - about this.

or 8. Or whatever it was when I first joined.

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Fri Apr 17, 2015 1:25 pm

AB_skin_test wrote:I guess if you breakdown and they come tow you quickly that's one hing. Was just considering people whose cars were towed against their will. I didn't get a lot of sleep.

Oh, I totally agree with that. She was being a total jerk and that comment was probably the mildest of the salvo.

=-=-=-=-=-=

I haven't checked out the Yelp, but one thing I wanted to say about "predatory towing" that I'm not sure everyone is aware of:

What a lot of these guys do is sit across the street from a strip mall and wait for people to park in spots that are assigned to certain stores. If the person gets out of their vehicle and walks into an adjacent store, they'll swoop in and hook up the car. This is often done without the store owners knowing what's going on. Say you're picking up carry out, but you know it's not ready, so you pop into the convenience store to pick up drinks or whatever before heading in to pick up your Chinese? They nail you.

I'm sure that's not just a DC area thing, but it certainly happens a lot around here, especially out in the burbs (but often in areas of heavy immigrant populations.)

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Fri Apr 17, 2015 4:57 pm

Yeah, I agree with AB. We can all agree that towing companies often suck, but that doesn't give this bitch the right to insult the looks/intelligence/job/education/etc. of the woman who works for said towing company.

btw - Ed Romero retweeted a Keith Law tweet, where he bitched a little bit about the nasty espn woman only getting the same punishment he got for when he defended evolution in a snarky way.

Keg · Post by **Keg** » Fri Apr 17, 2015 5:31 pm

I am pretty sure that tweet was from a parody account.