(The End of) Journalism Thread

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Post by Pruitt » Thu Jun 25, 2020 7:41 am

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Post by DaveInSeattle » Wed Sep 09, 2020 2:41 pm

So...these Trump (via Woodward) revelations. Should he have made them public back in March? Was it ethical for him to sit on them for his book release?

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Post by brian » Wed Sep 09, 2020 2:46 pm

DaveInSeattle wrote:
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So...these Trump (via Woodward) revelations. Should he have made them public back in March? Was it ethical for him to sit on them for his book release?
He wasn’t done with his interviews until July. Also this revelation should be shocking to absolutely no one. The alternative is that Trump was getting bad info from his public health experts.

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Re: (The End of) Journalism Thread

Post by DaveInSeattle » Mon Sep 21, 2020 6:06 pm

Another reminder...Jason Whitlock is a terrible person, which means he's right at home with Clay Travis...


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Post by Johnnie » Mon Sep 21, 2020 6:41 pm

That article should have been written about Tomi Lahren.
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Post by DaveInSeattle » Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:33 pm

Johnnie wrote:
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That article should have been written about Tomi Lahren.
This picture should go with anything regarding Whitlock...

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Post by Shirley » Tue Sep 22, 2020 10:01 am

DaveInSeattle wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 6:06 pm
Another reminder...Jason Whitlock is a terrible person, which means he's right at home with Clay Travis...

God, I felt dirty reading that. But boy do the white guy commenters on his site love it. What a strange world. Katie Nolan is fucking awesome.
Totally Kafkaesque

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Post by mister d » Tue Sep 22, 2020 10:14 am

He's on the grifter Mt. Rushmore.
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Post by Nonlinear FC » Tue Sep 22, 2020 10:27 am

Katie should wear that article as a badge of honor. The Michael Brown line? JFC. What a piece of shit.
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Post by DaveInSeattle » Tue Sep 22, 2020 10:49 am

Shirley wrote:
Tue Sep 22, 2020 10:01 am
DaveInSeattle wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 6:06 pm
Another reminder...Jason Whitlock is a terrible person, which means he's right at home with Clay Travis...

God, I felt dirty reading that. But boy do the white guy commenters on his site love it. What a strange world. Katie Nolan is fucking awesome.
I only became aware of it because Ian Karmel (from the All Fantasy Everything podcast) tweeted about it, calling Whitlock a 'fedora wearing piece of shit'. (Nolan has been on AFE a few times, and is a great guest).

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Post by Johnnie » Tue Sep 22, 2020 10:54 am

Basically everyone I follow either called out Whitlock or liked a tweet that did.

Anyone ever watch The Boondocks? He's Fat Uncle Ruckus.
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Post by Pruitt » Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:12 am

What a stupid column.

Love the last line of the piece:
If you want Jason Whitlock for your TV or radio show or podcast, contact gary@outkick.com.
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Post by A_B » Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:25 am

I wish I hadn’t given them a click.
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Post by Shirley » Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:29 am

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I wish I hadn’t given them a click.
Me too. That was my first thought when I clicked it. Then, I was already there, so I went ahead and dove into the shit pile.
Totally Kafkaesque

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Post by A_B » Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:30 am

We need someone to fall on the grenade from now on and just copy the thing here.
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Post by DSafetyGuy » Tue Sep 22, 2020 12:57 pm

A_B wrote:
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We need someone to fall on the grenade from now on and just copy the thing here.
No. We don't.
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Post by mister d » Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:07 pm

We've all read a Whitlock article at some point so I assume just sub in Katie Nolan for whichever personable young black athlete he was attacking in the one your remember.
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Post by DSafetyGuy » Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:10 pm

I would like to think we're all smart enough to avoid Whitlock, Travis, Rovell, etc., but...

I mean, when was the last time one of them legitimately surprised you with a positive contribution to society?
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Post by The Sybian » Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:42 pm

DSafetyGuy wrote:
Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:10 pm
I would like to think we're all smart enough to avoid Whitlock, Travis, Rovell, etc., but...

I mean, when was the last time one of them legitimately surprised you with a positive contribution to society?
If it wasn't for the Swamp, I never would have known Travis or Rovell existed, and I would have forgotten about Whitlock 20 years ago. So... thanks?
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Post by rass » Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:47 pm

The Sybian wrote:
Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:42 pm
DSafetyGuy wrote:
Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:10 pm
I would like to think we're all smart enough to avoid Whitlock, Travis, Rovell, etc., but...

I mean, when was the last time one of them legitimately surprised you with a positive contribution to society?
If it wasn't for the Swamp, I never would have known Travis or Rovell existed, and I would have forgotten about Whitlock 20 years ago. So... thanks?
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Post by DaveInSeattle » Tue Sep 22, 2020 2:00 pm

DSafetyGuy wrote:
Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:10 pm
I would like to think we're all smart enough to avoid Whitlock, Travis, Rovell, etc., but...

I mean, when was the last time one of them legitimately surprised you with a positive contribution to society?
And you left off one of the biggest offenders...the whole Barstool extended universe.

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Post by The Sybian » Tue Sep 22, 2020 3:49 pm

rass wrote:
Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:47 pm
The Sybian wrote:
Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:42 pm
DSafetyGuy wrote:
Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:10 pm
I would like to think we're all smart enough to avoid Whitlock, Travis, Rovell, etc., but...

I mean, when was the last time one of them legitimately surprised you with a positive contribution to society?
If it wasn't for the Swamp, I never would have known Travis or Rovell existed, and I would have forgotten about Whitlock 20 years ago. So... thanks?
They're truly the Beef O'Brady Bowl of sports journalists.
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Post by DaveInSeattle » Tue Sep 22, 2020 9:21 pm

Alex Flanagan weighs in on Whitlock pulling the same nonsense with her 10 years ago.



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The only thing he proved in this latest anti-female tirade is that if he had the courage to know me or any of the women he so willingly devalues, it would kill his dangerous spoon-fed barbie narrative, and then what would he do for attention?

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Post by DaveInSeattle » Wed Oct 07, 2020 12:03 am

Mr Boot Licking Toady...Hugh Hewitt..

How Trump has made the country better off than it was four years ago
The 2020 election is four weeks out. Here is the short case for backing the Trump-Pence ticket and voting for Republican senators and representatives in your state.

Have President Trump and the Republicans helped you since they assumed office in 2017, or are you the same or worse off than you were nearly four years ago?

My guess is that the president and the GOP have helped you.
Can't believe this jackass gets published in the Washington Post.

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Post by Pruitt » Wed Oct 07, 2020 6:56 am

DaveInSeattle wrote:
Wed Oct 07, 2020 12:03 am
Mr Boot Licking Toady...Hugh Hewitt..

How Trump has made the country better off than it was four years ago
The 2020 election is four weeks out. Here is the short case for backing the Trump-Pence ticket and voting for Republican senators and representatives in your state.

Have President Trump and the Republicans helped you since they assumed office in 2017, or are you the same or worse off than you were nearly four years ago?

My guess is that the president and the GOP have helped you.
Can't believe this jackass gets published in the Washington Post.
Kind of like that Combs sad sack who used to part of Hannity's act. A token.
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Post by Joe K » Wed Oct 07, 2020 7:24 am

Hewitt was a longtime Reagan White House staffer and President of the Richard Nixon Foundation. He’s like Exhibit A for my view that the only thing new about Trump compared to the modern GOP is the Twitter trolling.

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Post by tennbengal » Thu Oct 29, 2020 3:00 pm

Quite the response from the Intercept to Greenwald’s latest lunacy:


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Post by Steve of phpBB » Thu Oct 29, 2020 3:23 pm

tennbengal wrote:
Thu Oct 29, 2020 3:00 pm
Quite the response from the Intercept to Greenwald’s latest lunacy:

I think this episode of Leftist on Leftist violence deserves its own thread.

This is from the piece TB quoted:
The narrative Glenn presents about his departure is teeming with distortions and inaccuracies — all of them designed to make him appear as a victim, rather than a grown person throwing a tantrum. It would take too long to point them all out here, but we intend to correct the record in time. For now, it is important to make clear that our goal in editing his work was to ensure that it would be accurate and fair. While he accuses us of political bias, it was he who was attempting to recycle the dubious claims of a political campaign — the Trump campaign — and launder them as journalism.
The thing is, Greenwald's arguments and non-journalistic work have always teemed with distortions and inaccuracies. But the Intercept was fine until he turned those on him.
And his one problem is he didn’t go to Russia that night because he had extracurricular activities, and they froze to death.

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Post by brian » Thu Oct 29, 2020 3:25 pm

I would not call Greenwald a "leftist" by any means.

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Post by sancarlos » Thu Oct 29, 2020 3:53 pm

brian wrote:
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I would not call Greenwald a "leftist" by any means.
Yeah, I was just going to say that. Sometimes it seems he's contrarian just for the sake of it.
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Post by Steve of phpBB » Thu Oct 29, 2020 3:58 pm

sancarlos wrote:
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I would not call Greenwald a "leftist" by any means.
Yeah, I was just going to say that. Sometimes it seems he's contrarian just for the sake of it.
Ok, I guess the only time I see stuff from him is when he's being contrarian against liberals or the Democratic Party.
And his one problem is he didn’t go to Russia that night because he had extracurricular activities, and they froze to death.

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Post by Steve of phpBB » Thu Oct 29, 2020 4:17 pm

Greenwald has published his email exchange with the Intercept editors on his Substack account.

The first email in the "story memo" from one of the editors. I think it provides the best critical assessment I've seen of what the Hunter Biden story supposedly is, and whether and to what extent it's supported by the emails or other public reporting.

https://greenwald.substack.com/p/emails ... rs-showing
And his one problem is he didn’t go to Russia that night because he had extracurricular activities, and they froze to death.

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Post by A_B » Thu Oct 29, 2020 5:09 pm

Good writers don’t need editors. Great writers demand them.
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Post by brian » Fri Oct 30, 2020 8:18 pm

Jesus Christ.


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Post by wlu_lax6 » Sun Nov 01, 2020 9:54 pm

So ummm the author whose ethics caused her to get fired in the past may not have been honest again. Big story had to be retracted.
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/ar ... ns/616474/

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Post by A_B » Tue Nov 03, 2020 4:46 pm

brian wrote:
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Jesus Christ.

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Post by DaveInSeattle » Fri Nov 20, 2020 2:05 pm

In today's Time's, there's this article about how much bigger your Covid exposure really is, compared to what you think.

I traced my Covid-19 bubble, and it's enormous
Experts and officials are unequivocal: Stay home for the holidays. Getting together with family for Thanksgiving without quarantining beforehand is like “bringing a loaded pistol for Grandma’s head,” Jared Polis, the governor of Colorado, warned earlier this month.

Mark Horne, the president of the Mississippi State Medical Association, sketched out grandma’s demise in even more horrifying detail. “You’re going to say ‘Hi’ at Thanksgiving, ‘It’s so nice to see you’,” he said in a recent briefing, and then “you’re either going to be visiting her by FaceTime in the I.C.U. or planning a small funeral by Christmas.”
So...after all that...he's going to do the right thing, and stay home, right?
So shame me if you must, but my wife and I decided that we would travel for Thanksgiving, though with a few added measures for safety. We’re pulling our kids out of the learning pod for a week before we leave. We’re driving to my parents’ house, not flying. We’re looking into getting tested before we go, and probably after we return. Other than the dozens in my bubble floating around us, our celebration will involve just seven people — fewer than the 10-person limit that many states have imposed on gatherings. And after the holiday, it would be wise for us to reconnect with other parents in the pod to ask whether their families might have been exposed during their time off.
Gah....

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Post by DaveInSeattle » Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:53 am

And after all the criticism, the NY Times has snuck in some edits to the original story.


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