Rex Ryan Moves Upstate

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Sun Jan 11, 2015 8:45 am

New coach of the Bills.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/12149 ... head-coach

A lot of Bills fans are not pleased, but I love this move.

Rex · Post by **Rex** » Sun Jan 11, 2015 9:21 am

I guess he just likes not having a quarterback?

rass · Post by **rass** » Sun Jan 11, 2015 9:30 am

Rex wrote:I guess he just likes not having a quarterback?

Right? Or wants the chance to play the Jets twice a season. He definitely makes things interesting.

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Sun Jan 11, 2015 9:34 am

Great. He's signed with another team.

Now let's go eat a goddamn snack.

EdRomero · Post by **EdRomero** » Sun Jan 11, 2015 10:18 am

Tannenbaum on the Dolphins, Rex on the Bills, Belichick on the Patriots -- the Jets are surrounded by ex coaches and players.

I like that the Bills didn't fall into the trap of going for the best match to improve their current weakness. It's more important getting who you think is the right coach, no matter what his strengths are.

devilfluff · Post by **devilfluff** » Sun Jan 11, 2015 1:27 pm

Bills' defensive players have got to be ecstatic.

The Sybian · Post by **The Sybian** » Sun Jan 11, 2015 2:19 pm

This doesn't bode well for the Jets. It is just the Jetiest thing ever. If Belichik didn't bail on the Jets, well, he probably would have failed miserably, gotten fired, never worked again and been a mere blip in NFL history.

rass · Post by **rass** » Sun Jan 11, 2015 2:38 pm

From Jersey to Buffalo. I guess we can't be surprised that Rex would be down with the Reverse Sybian.

The Sybian · Post by **The Sybian** » Sun Jan 11, 2015 2:48 pm

rass wrote:From Jersey to Buffalo. I guess we can't be surprised that Rex would be down with the Reverse Sybian.

Beautiful. Layover in Boston, but I'll let it go. Rex better hope Binghamton University doesn't start a football program anytime soon.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Sun Jan 11, 2015 4:27 pm

Rex seemed like the best candidate out ther, right? I thought he'd go to Atlanta. They were probably short by a foot.

Diamond · Post by **Diamond** » Sun Jan 11, 2015 5:17 pm

I'm not surprised that once they got serious about Rex the Pegulas lock him down. Their full-court press looks pretty effective. Kim seems to be one of those hyper-classy get shit done types, and Terry seems to be a real closer. I'm sure he got a lot of gas leases signed around kitchen tables back in the day.

Nice to get another guy you interviewed for HC to be the OC if the stories about Greg Roman are true.

MaxWebster · Post by **MaxWebster** » Mon Jan 12, 2015 12:49 am

come on Pruitt:

Western New York. not upstate. WNY.

right. onward.

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Mon Jan 12, 2015 6:21 am

MaxWebster wrote:come on Pruitt:

Western New York. not upstate. WNY.

right. onward.

By the ghost of Chuck Healey, I should have known better.

Shame on me for referring to the region in the way a New Yorker (from the city) would have.

The Sybian · Post by **The Sybian** » Mon Jan 12, 2015 10:07 am

MaxWebster wrote:come on Pruitt:

Western New York. not upstate. WNY.

right. onward.

That was bugging me, too. Finally decided to make that point right now. Western New York is a completely different place than the rest of Upstate NY. Buffalo especially, is really more similar to the Midwest than the Northeast, IMO, and certainly more similar to the Midwest than it is Upstate NY. The Great Lakes tied it to the Midwest.

MaxWebster · Post by **MaxWebster** » Thu Jan 15, 2015 12:33 am

more than made-up for with the Healy/Juice photo.

we're all good.

Pruitt wrote:
MaxWebster wrote:come on Pruitt:

Western New York. not upstate. WNY.

right. onward.
By the ghost of Chuck Healey, I should have known better.

Shame on me for referring to the region in the way a New Yorker (from the city) would have.

Rex · Post by **Rex** » Wed Apr 18, 2018 7:45 pm

This never goes away.

I think there is a zone of good faith argument starting at Peekskill extending north to Poughkeepsie. Anyone who argues for something south of that is being facetious, anyone who argues for something north doesn't appreciate the distinction that comes from being on the commuter rail line. Different set of rules west of the Hudson, where Upstate starts when you get past Palisades Mall. The correct response to the Western NY variant is "who cares"

Joe K · Post by **Joe K** » Wed Apr 18, 2018 7:48 pm

I grew up just outside of Albany and I'd draw the line at either Poughkeepsie or Kingston. I don't buy Peekskill, because I don't think anywhere in Westchester can be called "upstate."

Rex · Post by **Rex** » Wed Apr 18, 2018 7:50 pm

Nobody in Westchester would ever call it upstate, except for celebrities who have their "country home" there.

EnochRoot · Post by **EnochRoot** » Wed Apr 18, 2018 7:53 pm

Joe K wrote: ↑Wed Apr 18, 2018 7:48 pm I grew up just outside of Albany and I'd draw the line at either Poughkeepsie or Kingston. I don't buy Peekskill, because I don't think anywhere in Westchester can be called "upstate."

Upstate is New Baltimore and Ravena.

Let's rock the 9W and rip shit up, bitches!

Johnny Carwash · Post by **Johnny Carwash** » Wed Apr 18, 2018 7:58 pm

"What is the Inland Empire?" is the West Coast version of "What is upstate?"

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Wed Apr 18, 2018 8:02 pm

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Rush2112 · Post by **Rush2112** » Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:39 pm

I think of Upstate as Poughkeepsie through Albany. Queensbury north is the North Country / Adirondacks.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:49 pm

I thought Hells Kitchen was upstate...

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:54 pm

Johnny Carwash wrote: ↑Wed Apr 18, 2018 7:58 pm "What is the Inland Empire?" is the West Coast version of "What is upstate?"

Except nobody wants to be said to live in the Inland Empire.

The Sybian · Post by **The Sybian** » Wed Apr 18, 2018 10:02 pm

Rush2112 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:39 pm I think of Upstate as Poughkeepsie through Albany. Queensbury north is the North Country / Adirondacks.

Then what is Binghamton, Elmira, Syracuse, Ithaca...?

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Wed Apr 18, 2018 10:31 pm

There are few things I hate more than the upstate / not upstate debate. Ruining my life since September 1996.

Johnny Carwash · Post by **Johnny Carwash** » Wed Apr 18, 2018 11:05 pm

Rex wrote: ↑Thu Apr 12, 2018 7:41 pm You just be happy there isn’t a comma in that thread title.

Rex · Post by **Rex** » Thu Apr 19, 2018 6:30 am

sancarlos wrote: ↑Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:54 pm
Johnny Carwash wrote: ↑Wed Apr 18, 2018 7:58 pm "What is the Inland Empire?" is the West Coast version of "What is upstate?"
Except nobody wants to be said to live in the Inland Empire.

It is true that "upstate" does not really carry a negative connotation in New York. It's not like having to admit you're on Long Island. Yet almost everybody will say that upstate starts somewhere north of where they live until you get to Albany. Personally, I don't think that upstate is a useful description of any place that primarily gets NYC television stations. It would be like someone from Evanston saying they live in "Illinois" and not budging when asked to be more specific.

wlu_lax6 · Post by **wlu_lax6** » Thu Apr 19, 2018 6:38 am

Rush2112 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:39 pm I think of Upstate as Poughkeepsie through Albany. Queensbury north is the North Country / Adirondacks.

I don't think Upstate is Poughkeepsie through Albany. I think folks talk about that as the Hudson Valley.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Thu Apr 19, 2018 7:24 am

Is this where I introduce the occasionally recognized “downstate” designation?

Rex · Post by **Rex** » Thu Apr 19, 2018 8:16 am

It has a Wikipedia page that is reflective of its worth:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Downstate_New_York

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Thu Apr 19, 2018 9:03 am

I've never seen NYC included in downstate. That's weird. NYC is just NYC.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Thu Apr 19, 2018 9:04 am

I didn't even realize all of this was "a thing" until I went away to college and found out people above Dutchess County scoff at it being upstate and people above it scoff at it not being upstate. We are the sons of no one.

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Thu Apr 19, 2018 9:29 am

Pruitt wrote: ↑Sun Jan 11, 2015 8:45 am New coach of the Bills.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/12149 ... head-coach

A lot of Bills fans are not pleased, but I love this move.

Wow.

DSafetyGuy · Post by **DSafetyGuy** » Thu Apr 19, 2018 9:37 am

Johnny Carwash wrote: ↑Wed Apr 18, 2018 7:58 pm "What is the Inland Empire?" is the West Coast version of "What is upstate?"

Starts at Ontario, maybe Pomona. Basically, where civilization ends.

Johnny Carwash wrote: ↑Wed Apr 18, 2018 11:05 pm
Rex wrote: ↑Thu Apr 12, 2018 7:41 pm You just be happy there isn’t a comma in that thread title.

Well done.

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Thu Apr 19, 2018 10:59 am

mister d wrote: ↑Thu Apr 19, 2018 9:04 am I didn't even realize all of this was "a thing" until I went away to college and found out people above Dutchess County scoff at it being upstate and people above it scoff at it not being upstate. We are the sons of no one.

It beats pickin' cotton, and waitin' to be forgotten.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Thu Apr 19, 2018 11:05 am

mister d wrote: ↑Thu Apr 19, 2018 9:04 am I didn't even realize all of this was "a thing" until I went away to college and found out people above Dutchess County scoff at it being upstate and people above it scoff at it not being upstate. We are the sons of no one.

Bastards of young.

[eta: didn't see Chedda's similar post]

Rush2112 · Post by **Rush2112** » Thu Apr 19, 2018 1:10 pm

The Sybian wrote: ↑Wed Apr 18, 2018 10:02 pm
Rush2112 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:39 pm I think of Upstate as Poughkeepsie through Albany. Queensbury north is the North Country / Adirondacks.
Then what is Binghamton, Elmira, Syracuse, Ithaca...?

It's own special place. All that shit is west of 81 (or is on it) and that's the greater Finger Lakes, no? Then Rochester west is WNY.

and in thinking about it Upstate probably starts further south than Poughkeepsie, Peekskill? Newburgh? I suppose it matters if you looking at it as defined by someone from NYC or someone looking south toward NYC

Rush2112 · Post by **Rush2112** » Thu Apr 19, 2018 1:11 pm

wlu_lax6 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 19, 2018 6:38 am
I don't think Upstate is Poughkeepsie through Albany. I think folks talk about that as the Hudson Valley.

Depends on what direction you're looking.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Thu Apr 19, 2018 1:16 pm

Rush2112 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:39 pmI suppose it matters if you looking at it as defined by someone from NYC or someone looking south toward NYC

This is absolutely true. I don't think anyone above me has considered me upstate and I'm positive no one from the city has ever not.