Old Timey Music for Howard and DC

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Re: Old Timey Music for Howard and DC

Post by sancarlos » Thu Jan 18, 2018 5:15 pm

That brings up very good, albeit hazy memories.
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Post by EnochRoot » Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:19 pm

So damn good they up and forgot the lyrics.


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Post by DC47 » Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:25 am

In the video above, I think the Byrds were then using Eight Miles High as a vehicle for extended instrumental jamming, rather than playing it in their '3 to 5 minute pop hit' mode (which you can see in earlier videos). This may be an edited fragment of an even longer jam.

Below are some more performances of the all-to-brief Clarence White era of the Byrds, the year after the 1970 Fillmore East show. The first venue is The Beat Club, a tremendous West German TV show of the sixties and early seventies. Two sessions are represented -- in 1971 and 1972. The second is a Belgian concert from the same time as the first Beat Club session.

Two things stand out to me. First, Clarence White is playing some sweet licks that sound like he's got a pedal steel guitar in his hands. If you look carefully, you can hear string bends that coincide with downward movement of the neck. That's the just-invented -- by drummer Gene Parsons -- "B bender." The B string is being stretched by a mechanism Parsons installed in the hollowed-out back of the Tele, actuated by a lever on the guitar body that is moved by the shoulder strap when the neck is pushed down slightly. White is using this to do string bends that cannot be done manually. For example, while playing a chord. The effect is stupendous. I think I've discussed Gene Parsons before here; we lived in the same part of rural Northern California (Mendocino County) in the '70s. Remarkable musician, remarkable man.

Second, has there ever been a more versatile band than this group? The can play straight-up rock and roll in either the brief verse-chorus-verse 'radio hit' mode or the extended Coltrane-influenced jam. And they can play straight-up bluegrass, with drummer Gene Parsons switching to the banjo and Clarence White showing the chops that made him the nations top bluegrass guitarist prior to joining the Byrds. Incredible band. It's my favorite American rock group of all time -- and this is my favorite Byrds personnel grouping.

West Germany, 1971 & 1972



Belgium, 1971.

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Post by DC47 » Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:36 am

Here's the audio only from a Byrds concert in late 1971. This clip has the advantage of making it easy to jump to specific songs in their set list.

I will never in my life hear enough versions of Chestnut Mare. Interesting to know that McGuinn's co-author on this song was a psychoanalyst. This is a great version, featuring Clarence White going crazy with the B bender behind McGuinn. White is great on the sublime studio recording of this song. But a live venue allows him to go farther out on his limb. This is White at his best, merging his purist bluegrass roots with his new-found rock and roll influences.

Aesthetic tastes in musicianship are only that. But while I love Hendrix and Clapton, I love Clarence White's playing just a little bit more.


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Post by EnochRoot » Fri Jan 19, 2018 7:10 am

I look out my bay window sipping coffee this morning and notice the lawn has a series of rabbit holes to either fill in or explore.

I think I’ll choose the latter.

Many, many thanks, DC!

That’s some good swamp right there!

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Post by sancarlos » Fri Jan 19, 2018 8:56 pm

Yeah, great stuff, DC!
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Post by Pruitt » Sat Feb 03, 2018 5:11 pm

One thing I miss about getting older (wife, kids, often my mother-in-law watching "Ellen" in the next room) is that I don;t often get the chance to get ripped and put on old-time party music.

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The Cramps! A toast to you, Pruitt!

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Post by Pruitt » Sat Feb 03, 2018 5:51 pm

Never got to see them live - sounds like I missed something amazing!

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Post by Jerloma » Tue Feb 06, 2018 1:26 pm

This song has always made me want to run through a brick wall, but in a good way.

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Do you still have a lava lamp?

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Post by Pruitt » Thu Feb 08, 2018 1:29 pm

I'm currently loving a posthumous Ian Dury release called "Ten More Turnips From The Tip."

This is the best album of his I've ever heard.

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Post by Rush2112 » Thu Feb 15, 2018 11:55 am

Not to give a hint to future rounds in the draft, but discovered this album and it's pretty fucking great.

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Re: Old Timey Music for Howard and DC

Post by sancarlos » Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:44 pm

Since we aren't doing the draft thing anymore, I can go back to posting videos of old music here. I don't know why this popped into my head. The Runaways doing their cover of a fun Slade song. Teenage SCK definitely had a thing for Joan Jett and Lita Ford.

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Post by Pruitt » Fri Jun 22, 2018 4:41 am

Was listening to this gem last night.

Great old-time dub music.

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Some all-time favorites I've been listening to:




















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Probably my favorite metal song of all time:


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Post by Rush2112 » Wed Sep 19, 2018 2:36 pm

Heard this yesterday. Had to hear it again.

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Post by sancarlos » Wed Sep 19, 2018 2:41 pm

Thanks for firing up this thread again, Rush.

Here's one that's been in my brain all week.

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Post by Rush2112 » Wed Sep 19, 2018 2:57 pm

I thought Freddie King was the King of Blues Guitar?



(one of three I guess. B.B. Should be at least a crown prince.)
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Post by sancarlos » Wed Sep 19, 2018 2:59 pm

Can't go wrong with Albert, Freddie or B.B.!

Funny how many famous guitarists have similar names - Alvin Lee, Albert Lee, Albert King, Freddie King, B.B. King...
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Post by Rush2112 » Wed Sep 19, 2018 3:22 pm

Not that far removed from slavery/sharecropping. No "proper" surnames so they took, or were given, the name of their former owner or the landowner.
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Post by Pruitt » Wed Sep 26, 2018 9:29 pm

Bryan Ferry turns 73 today.

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Post by Pruitt » Wed Sep 26, 2018 9:46 pm

The greatest usage of the electric violin in music history.

Period.

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Post by Rush2112 » Thu Sep 27, 2018 10:41 am

Best "cover" of a Donovan song ever.

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Post by rass » Thu Sep 27, 2018 10:58 am

Pruitt wrote:
Wed Sep 26, 2018 9:46 pm
The greatest usage of the electric violin in music history.

Period.
I felt aswirl with warm secretions.

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Post by Rush2112 » Thu Sep 27, 2018 5:13 pm

Violin sent me down the Mahavishnu trail..



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Post by Shirley » Tue Oct 09, 2018 11:47 am

I'm currently listening to Fleetwood Mac's first album, Fleetwood Mac. I've heard before about how their earlier stuff was much different. And man, what a great blues album. There's no way anyone unfamiliar with this would identify it as Fleetwood Mac. Completely different band.
Totally Kafkaesque

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Post by sancarlos » Tue Oct 09, 2018 12:07 pm

Shirley wrote:
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I'm currently listening to Fleetwood Mac's first album, Fleetwood Mac. I've heard before about how their earlier stuff was much different. And man, what a great blues album. There's no way anyone unfamiliar with this would identify it as Fleetwood Mac. Completely different band.
Nice.
The Peter Green-era Fleetwood Mac was a great blues band, though largely forgotten now. And, the second iteration, the Bob Welch-era Fleetwood Mac brought some nice pop to mix in along with the blues. Of course the third iteration, after Buckingham and Nicks joined, is all most people know ever existed. And, Mick Fleetwood and John McVie were there for all three versions of the band.

For the benefit of those who might care - the first video below is my favorite Peter Green era FM tune, "Oh Well". The second video is my favorite Bob Welch-era FM tune, "Hypnotized".

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Post by Pruitt » Wed Oct 24, 2018 11:00 am

Rolling Stone Magazine's Scathing Review of "Led Zeppelin I"
“Babe I’m Gonna Leave You” alternates between prissy Robert Plant’s howled vocals fronting an acoustic guitar and driving choruses of the band running down a four-chord progression while John Bonham smashes his cymbals on every beat. The song is very dull in places (especially on the vocal passages), very redundant, and certainly not worth the six-and-a-half minutes the Zeppelin gives it.
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Pruitt wrote:
Wed Oct 24, 2018 11:00 am
Rolling Stone Magazine's Scathing Review of "Led Zeppelin I"
“Babe I’m Gonna Leave You” alternates between prissy Robert Plant’s howled vocals fronting an acoustic guitar and driving choruses of the band running down a four-chord progression while John Bonham smashes his cymbals on every beat. The song is very dull in places (especially on the vocal passages), very redundant, and certainly not worth the six-and-a-half minutes the Zeppelin gives it.
I think I read somewhere that Rolling Stone gave a negative review to every single Zeppelin record.
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Pruitt wrote:
Wed Oct 24, 2018 11:00 am
Rolling Stone Magazine's Scathing Review of "Led Zeppelin I"
“Babe I’m Gonna Leave You” alternates between prissy Robert Plant’s howled vocals fronting an acoustic guitar and driving choruses of the band running down a four-chord progression while John Bonham smashes his cymbals on every beat. The song is very dull in places (especially on the vocal passages), very redundant, and certainly not worth the six-and-a-half minutes the Zeppelin gives it.
Wow, that's great. There's nothing quite like a pompous music reviewer. I can feel his self-satisfied smirk as he was writing that.
Totally Kafkaesque

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Post by Shirley » Wed Oct 24, 2018 9:05 pm

This guy's great. Check out this review of Neil Young's Harvest. It may be the most pretentious writing I've ever seen.

This is a single sentence!
While some respond to commercial prosperity as a means to realizing all those brainstorms that a lack of loot formerly made impossible, to expanding and growing as an artist through the exploitation to heretofore unattainable resources, others either wilt artistically in the face of a mass audience’s expectations — resorting to conscious imitations of what was once instinctive and spontaneous — or greatly relax the standards by which they once judged themselves, having concluded (usually quite correctly) that once one attains superstar status the audience will eagerly gobble up whatever half-assed baloney he pleases to record.
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Post by Rush2112 » Thu Oct 25, 2018 4:49 pm

This take on Take 5 is tasty.


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Re: Old Timey Music for Howard and DC

Post by sancarlos » Tue Nov 20, 2018 5:25 pm

DVR alert. Tomorrow morning at 5:15 am EST, TCM is airing an old documentary about Lightnin’ Hopkins. I have never seen this film so I have no idea if it’s any good. But it sounds like something worth taking a chance on.
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