Better Call Saul thread (Spoilers)

bfj · Post by **bfj** » Wed Apr 22, 2020 5:54 am

[+] spoiler: Great episode.

This season finale was similar to last season’s. Last year you could see Kim’s shock as Jimmy turned into Saul. This year you (or maybe it was just me) could see Jimmy being blown away that Kim has it in her to go after and destroy Howard’s life.

Lalo’s pissed.

Nacho is fucked.

Odenkirk and Seahorn deserve awards IMO.

BSF21 · Post by **BSF21** » Wed Apr 22, 2020 8:23 am

I think I'm starting to see where they're taking it, which is far different than I set my expectations out to.

[+] spoiler: At the beginning I was convinced it would be something happening to Kim that caused Jimmy to truly lose his moral compass and fall down the path of SG. She was always the one who brought him back to center when he got took close to the edge, so I expected something to happen and give him a path to spiral out of control. But bit by bit Kim became more and more willing to follow Jimmy down the edge of the path. Now she's gonna pull him down with her, not the other way around. It really is brilliant writing.

I'm biased, but if Rhea Seehorn doesn't win an Emmy for this, it's a travesty. She's been amazing. Odenkirk is good, but Rhea commands the screen when she's on it.

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Wed Apr 22, 2020 8:26 am

[+] spoiler: Absolutely amazing plot twist that it is Kim Wexler who really Broke Bad...

Post by **brian** » Wed Apr 22, 2020 9:27 am

[+] spoiler: And yet it's believable if you know her background. The poor girl who pulled herself up by her bootstraps to play the game right only to see rich assholes like Howard Hamlin (and probably the Mesa Verde guy) born into wealth get all of the advantages. Kim sees a lot of herself in Jimmy/Saul, which is why the relationship has always worked for me.

DSafetyGuy · Post by **DSafetyGuy** » Wed Apr 22, 2020 9:53 am

[+] spoiler: I just loved how, in the early minutes of this final episode, shortly after they are in the hotel room, Kim said something like, "Can I put something on your shoulders, or would that hurt?" Phenomenal double meaning.

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Wed Apr 22, 2020 11:57 am

Completely agree Brian - it feels earned. God they do such a good job writing and running that show, and the acting choices are always sublime.

bfj · Post by **bfj** » Wed Apr 22, 2020 1:36 pm

brian wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2020 9:27 am
[+] spoiler
And yet it's believable if you know her background. The poor girl who pulled herself up by her bootstraps to play the game right only to see rich assholes like Howard Hamlin (and probably the Mesa Verde guy) born into wealth get all of the advantages. Kim sees a lot of herself in Jimmy/Saul, which is why the relationship has always worked for me.

[+] spoiler: I think at one point when she and Jimmy were talking about what they'd do with the money her line was something along the lines of "give these people the kind of legal help that only rich people get".

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Wed Apr 22, 2020 4:21 pm

Um, guys, the thread title says Spoilers. You good.

:D

bfj · Post by **bfj** » Wed Apr 22, 2020 5:28 pm

Nonlinear FC wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2020 4:21 pm Um, guys, the thread title says Spoilers. You good.

:D

That’s what I thought. And then everyone posted their thoughts with the spoiler tag, so I followed. Baaaaa.

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Wed Apr 22, 2020 9:19 pm

This is a pretty great article:

https://www.theringer.com/tv/2020/4/22/ ... 5-prequels

Post by **brian** » Wed Apr 22, 2020 9:56 pm

Hey Nonlinear:

[+] spoiler: Go fuck yourself.

Post by **brian** » Wed Apr 22, 2020 9:57 pm

Orange font, obvs.

EdRomero · Post by **EdRomero** » Thu Apr 23, 2020 7:13 am

brian wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2020 9:27 am
[+] spoiler
And yet it's believable if you know her background. The poor girl who pulled herself up by her bootstraps to play the game right only to see rich assholes like Howard Hamlin (and probably the Mesa Verde guy) born into wealth get all of the advantages. Kim sees a lot of herself in Jimmy/Saul, which is why the relationship has always worked for me.

Kim has more of that Robin Hood spirit where Jimmy seems more practical and doing whatever he needs to do. This seems to be leading to Kim getting killed or going to jail, but I'm trying to figure out if Kim could have been apart of Jimmy's life during the Breaking Bad years -- probably a stretch, but I don't remember any reference to Jimmy's at home life during Breaking Bad. The current day scenes at the beginning of each season are so intriguing and such a tease, and it would be great to see a Kim/Jimmy reunion there.

bfj · Post by **bfj** » Thu Apr 23, 2020 7:35 am

Interesting take I found on Reddit.

EdRomero · Post by **EdRomero** » Thu Apr 23, 2020 7:48 am

That's great. I love how Reddit people have the same ideas I'm playing with, but they actually remember everything and put way more thought and work into it.

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Thu Apr 23, 2020 9:27 am

brian wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2020 9:56 pm Hey Nonlinear:

[+] spoiler
Go fuck yourself.

Ha!

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Thu Apr 23, 2020 9:32 am

I think he's in Omaha...

(google)

yep

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Thu Apr 23, 2020 4:26 pm

Just finished it up today. Lalo is a baaaad man.

Post by **Shirley** » Fri Apr 24, 2020 1:11 pm

Man, Saul meeting back up with Kim at the end in Omaha (or somewhere else) is just perfect. I hadn't thought of that. It makes a lot of sense for why they've been showing those Omaha scenes.

The Sybian · Post by **The Sybian** » Sun Apr 26, 2020 11:02 am

Shirley wrote: ↑Fri Apr 24, 2020 1:11 pm Man, Saul meeting back up with Kim at the end in Omaha (or somewhere else) is just perfect. I hadn't thought of that. It makes a lot of sense for why they've been showing those Omaha scenes.

I love that as an ending. I’ve always had the feeling Saul gets executed in Omaha, but man would I love that ending. A touch of beauty in a sick, dark world.

bfj · Post by **bfj** » Sun Apr 26, 2020 12:07 pm

i don’t remember all the Cinnabon scenes but do we ever see Saul at home or only at the mall? Maybe they’ve been together the whole time.

I’m thinking of his reaction to being spotted by the cabbie at the beginning of this season. He calls the vacuum guy to move and then changes his mind. Maybe he decides that instead of running he’ll stay with Kim.

bfj · Post by **bfj** » Sun Apr 26, 2020 12:08 pm

Also never realized that the guy who plays Don Eladio was the guy who played Manny (Tony’s right hand) in Scarface.

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Sun Apr 26, 2020 12:12 pm

bfj wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 12:07 pm i don’t remember all the Cinnabon scenes but do we ever see Saul at home or only at the mall? Maybe they’ve been together the whole time.

I’m thinking of his reaction to being spotted by the cabbie at the beginning of this season. He calls the vacuum guy to move and then changes his mind. Maybe he decides that instead of running he’ll stay with Kim.

He went to his home in one scene. Looked like a short-term furnished style rental.

bfj · Post by **bfj** » Sun Apr 26, 2020 12:20 pm

tennbengal wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 12:12 pm
bfj wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 12:07 pm i don’t remember all the Cinnabon scenes but do we ever see Saul at home or only at the mall? Maybe they’ve been together the whole time.

I’m thinking of his reaction to being spotted by the cabbie at the beginning of this season. He calls the vacuum guy to move and then changes his mind. Maybe he decides that instead of running he’ll stay with Kim.
He went to his home in one scene. Looked like a short-term furnished style rental.

I thought so, but wasn’t sure. I wonder if there is a cut scene of all the Gene openings out together.

bfj · Post by **bfj** » Sun Apr 26, 2020 12:32 pm

Season 1 opens with Gene going home and watching his old commercials on tv.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Sun May 31, 2020 11:23 am

Strange dream last night. I was having a conversation with Lalo Salamanca. He was vaguely threatening, and I woke up in a sweat.

The Sybian · Post by **The Sybian** » Sun May 31, 2020 11:34 am

sancarlos wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 11:23 am Strange dream last night. I was having a conversation with Lalo Salamanca. He was vaguely threatening, and I woke up in a sweat.

I think Lalo's friendliest conversations are vaguely threatening.

wlu_lax6 · Post by **wlu_lax6** » Sun May 31, 2020 11:39 am

Confirmation we will get Bryan Cranston and Aaron Paul in the final season

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Sat Jun 20, 2020 2:19 pm

Juuuust finished up burning through 5 seasons on deployment here with everyone. We're amped for season 6. .

It's also cool to recognize places around ABQ too. Like the burned up Pollos Hermanos. I pass by it every day on the way to work. For weeks I was wondering what a pristine abandoned building is doing and what was going on. Then one day it looked like it was burned up. It was in the final episode of season 5 and I finally got to see why.

With the 'Big Bad' character of Lalo happening, I'm kinda bummed that Hamlin became such a loser so quickly. He deserves it for shitting on Kim, but he turned into a lost puppy after Chuck died.

I laughed at Mike offering a space blanket to Jimmy in the desert.

I'm sure it was brought up, but Kim rocking the Royals shirt all the time is because the Triple A affiliate is the Omaha Storm Chasers. And Gene is in Omaha. So it's definitely likely the series makes its way there for them to meet up after shit goes sideways in ABQ.

What a good series

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Tue Jun 23, 2020 5:31 am

This is amazing. An entire storyline spun from this random throwaway line.

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Thu Jun 25, 2020 6:47 am

It's, I think, genius story-telling, Johnnie. Genius the right word.

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:01 am

Bob Odenkirk collapsed on the set of Better Call Saul.

There hasn't been an update in quite some time.

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:05 am

Johnnie wrote: ↑Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:01 am Bob Odenkirk collapsed on the set of Better Call Saul.

There hasn't been an update in quite some time.

Yeah. Really hard not to fear the worst now.

Post by **brian** » Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:59 am

Given the ubiquity of the gossip-industrial complex in Hollywood, no news is probably good news.

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Wed Jul 28, 2021 9:46 am

brian wrote: ↑Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:59 am Given the ubiquity of the gossip-industrial complex in Hollywood, no news is probably good news.

Counterpoint: the show is filmed in ABQ. Might be able to avoid gossip industrial complex.

Either way, hoping for the best for him.

Giff · Post by **Giff** » Wed Jul 28, 2021 11:13 am

Yeah, hoping for mild heat stroke or something.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Wed Jul 28, 2021 12:13 pm

Giff wrote: ↑Wed Jul 28, 2021 11:13 am Yeah, hoping for mild heat stroke or something.

Hope it was just a bad burrito.

Post by **brian** » Wed Jul 28, 2021 12:17 pm

govmentchedda wrote: ↑Wed Jul 28, 2021 9:46 am
brian wrote: ↑Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:59 am Given the ubiquity of the gossip-industrial complex in Hollywood, no news is probably good news.
Counterpoint: the show is filmed in ABQ. Might be able to avoid gossip industrial complex.

Either way, hoping for the best for him.

There's probably a dozen people on the crew and staff of BCS who would leak any really bad news to TMZ for money or future favors or whatever. Unfortunately, that's how it works. In this case, it probably means he's being treated still/under observation and isn't in such a bad state to have an update available nor in such a good state for the same. Hate to speculate, but something like heat stroke or a heart attack seems likely, especially if he required an emergency bypass that could definitely take a few hours.

So all things considered, I'll maintain that no news is probably good news for the next few hours. Come later tonight, no update by then might be more troublesome. I guess I'm just hoping that he's getting patched up and will be on the road to recovery soon.

wlu_lax6 · Post by **wlu_lax6** » Wed Jul 28, 2021 12:55 pm

I blame HIPPA for this lack of transparency. I mean I totally deserve to know exactly what is going on with his private health information.

or a minimum Kevin Smith level of self description of a major health event.

Post by **brian** » Wed Jul 28, 2021 3:10 pm

It’s not a HIPPA violation to report if he’s (God forbid) dead. Another good-ish sign really.