Copa America

P.D.X. · Post by **P.D.X.** » Wed Jun 22, 2016 12:39 pm

I haven't watched a replay since last night but I thought he read the side Messi was shooting to pretty well. It was just a perfect shot.

Brontoburglar · Post by **Brontoburglar** » Wed Jun 22, 2016 12:44 pm

P.D.X. wrote:I haven't watched a replay since last night but I thought he read the side Messi was shooting to pretty well. It was just a perfect shot.

Yup. Guzan almost touched it. At a full diagonal stretch. The ball bounced off the crossbar. To think that wasn't "covered" is insane.

HaulCitgo · Post by **HaulCitgo** » Wed Jun 22, 2016 12:48 pm

I know its Messi and all but that goalie was positioned and tapping his feet as the guy ran up to kick it. So its kinda hard for me to accept that he wouldnt have gotten there if he doesnt move the wrong direction. Its real easy to say that its a perfect shot from the perfect player but the reality from the video is that he probably gets there if takes the first step left. Im not even saying that they guy did a bad job, just that the US version of Messi is likely to be a goalie so we need guys to step up and make great plays. Moving the wrong direction when the ball is kicked is hardly at that level.

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Wed Jun 22, 2016 1:33 pm

HaulCitgo wrote:
Nonlinear FC wrote:
HaulCitgo wrote:The dude stepped the wrong direction. Call me crazy but that has little to do with the guy behind the ball or the shot being in the top corner. If he sees it sooner (or doesnt guess) and takes a first step to his left, then he gets there.

http://screamer.deadspin.com/lionel-mes ... 1782397602

He doesn't step the wrong way. He saw it, he got beat. It was an incredible kick by the best player on the planet.

ETA... Looking at it five, six times, I'll give it a slight step the wrong way. Very slight. He was still in very good position to make that save and it took amazing precision to place it where he did with the pace he put on the ball.

If he had taken a full step the wrong way, he would've done the deer in the headlights/frozen/statue keeper thing you see when they know there's no chance to recover. (See first goal for a similar pose when he put himself in no man's land.)
If you cant see that, I cant help you. Full two footed jump to the right before he starts going back left. 0:17-0:18.

I'm really resisting the urge to flame here.

Imma let this go and not trot out my resume and all that shit. We disagree and that's fine.

Brontoburglar · Post by **Brontoburglar** » Wed Jun 22, 2016 2:45 pm

He's loading up to go left, but whatever. Jumping flatfooted isn't optimal.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Wed Jun 22, 2016 7:20 pm

Chile at it again!

Rex · Post by **Rex** » Wed Jun 22, 2016 7:21 pm

I'm becoming glad we extracted ourselves from this tournament. They're using real bullets.

Post by **brian** » Wed Jun 22, 2016 7:21 pm

So not excited to play Colombia again although at least this time it should be with some of the kids.

Rex · Post by **Rex** » Wed Jun 22, 2016 7:24 pm

I want those fuckers again. I think we can win, especially under third place game conditions.

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Wed Jun 22, 2016 7:27 pm

This tourney's been so poorly managed. All of the tickets are paper tickets, and overpriced. It's led to an inability to utilize stubhub, seat geek, etc., and led to sparse crowds. But hey, at least the scalp sites aren't making a killing!

I bought seats in the front row of the upper level for the games in Orlando, and when I got there, they gave me a random seat in the first level because they didn't sell enough upper seats to open the section. At least the knockout games have been entertaining.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Wed Jun 22, 2016 9:34 pm

The Sybian · Post by **The Sybian** » Wed Jun 22, 2016 10:10 pm

HaulCitgo wrote:I know its Messi and all but that goalie was positioned and tapping his feet as the guy ran up to kick it. So its kinda hard for me to accept that he wouldnt have gotten there if he doesnt move the wrong direction. Its real easy to say that its a perfect shot from the perfect player but the reality from the video is that he probably gets there if takes the first step left. Im not even saying that they guy did a bad job, just that the US version of Messi is likely to be a goalie so we need guys to step up and make great plays. Moving the wrong direction when the ball is kicked is hardly at that level.

I'm going to have to jump in with everyone else. Guzan is taking a bit of a hop to get momentum for a dive. Watch any goalkeeper on a free kick from a similar position, and almost every top class keep does this. Top class goalies get caught leaving early all the time, and that isn't what happened here. If he cheated early, he would have either froze in place, or lamely reached out a hand. Again, happens frequently in top flight games. Take the best keepers in the world, give them 100 tries to save that shot (without them knowing beforehand where it is going), and not one save is made. Absolutely impossible to stop that shot.

ETA: watching the GIF numerous times, Guzan is actually leaning to his left while hopping slightly to the right. It looks like he was expecting the shot to his left.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Wed Jun 22, 2016 10:17 pm

game will resume at 11:25!

Rex · Post by **Rex** » Sat Jun 25, 2016 8:18 pm

are there two better keepers right now than Fabianski and Ospina?

rass · Post by **rass** » Sat Jun 25, 2016 8:29 pm

Rex wrote:are there two better keepers right now than Fabianski and Ospina?

And that post,

howard · Post by **howard** » Sat Jun 25, 2016 9:01 pm

The nice thing about smacking someone in the face in a soccer game, even if you only lightly smack them, they will drop like a stone and writhe like they're having a seizure, and it makes you look like you punched the fuck out of them.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Sat Jun 25, 2016 9:03 pm

C. Bacca scores. Wtf. When did kashyykk get invited to the copa?

#nerdalert

Post by **Sabo** » Sat Jun 25, 2016 9:05 pm

Fuck off, Klinsmann.

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Sun Jun 26, 2016 11:56 am

Sabo wrote:Fuck off, Klinsmann.

Co-sign.

howard · Post by **howard** » Sun Jun 26, 2016 3:23 pm

We could make that the new name of the Swamp. Or at least the motto (replace that 'feeding a nasty gambling habit' thing)

Rex · Post by **Rex** » Sun Jun 26, 2016 7:49 pm

damn, when you book Messi for diving in a final, you better be correct. And that dude was correct.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Sun Jun 26, 2016 7:52 pm

Rex wrote:damn, when you book Messi for diving in a final, you better be correct. And that dude was correct.

He wasnt correct on the Rojo red card though. Totally wanted to even up the red cards

Rex · Post by **Rex** » Sun Jun 26, 2016 8:26 pm

With the first red, you could actually read his face as he realized too late that Diaz was already on a yellow.

Once again, why we have superdelegates.

howard · Post by **howard** » Sun Jun 26, 2016 8:37 pm

When are we gonna get superdelegates in the swamp?

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Sun Jun 26, 2016 8:40 pm

I nominate J-Lo!!!

Rex · Post by **Rex** » Sun Jun 26, 2016 8:46 pm

I thought that's what "JPops" was

howard · Post by **howard** » Sun Jun 26, 2016 8:47 pm

Well, fuck that.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Sun Jun 26, 2016 8:52 pm

Rex wrote:With the first red, you could actually read his face as he realized too late that Diaz was already on a yellow.

Once again, why we have superdelegates.

That should not matter. A 2nd yellow does not have to be a foul worse than the first yellow. Yellow is yellow

Post by **brian** » Sun Jun 26, 2016 9:48 pm

Did not expect to see Messi choke there in penalties.

Rex · Post by **Rex** » Sun Jun 26, 2016 10:01 pm

Should have had Funes Mori take that instead of Messi

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Sun Jun 26, 2016 10:09 pm

I knew he was missing it as soon as I saw the ball sail over the crossbar.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Sun Jun 26, 2016 11:53 pm

Messi just announced his retirement from international football at 29. Twitter going nuts

Post by **brian** » Mon Jun 27, 2016 12:18 am

I call bullshit. He's being an emo twat.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Mon Jun 27, 2016 12:26 am

I think its true. 112 caps already. This tournament was one too many South America got too greedy. A gruelling 18 match world cup qualification and TWO Copa Americas . Hes had enough. Aguero is quitting too.

psunate77 · Post by **psunate77** » Mon Jun 27, 2016 5:49 am

His career is tarnished IMO

Post by **Sabo** » Mon Jun 27, 2016 6:03 am

degenerasian wrote:I think its true. 112 caps already. This tournament was one too many South America got too greedy. A gruelling 18 match world cup qualification and TWO Copa Americas . Hes had enough. Aguero is quitting too.

So is Mascherano. And from what I've read on Twitter, Lavezzi, Biglia and Higuain might go, too.

Sounds like the Argentina FA is an absolute mess right now and the players don't want to deal with it any more. That's probably the biggest reason so many are threatening to retire.

psunate77 · Post by **psunate77** » Mon Jun 27, 2016 6:48 am

Sabo wrote:
degenerasian wrote:I think its true. 112 caps already. This tournament was one too many South America got too greedy. A gruelling 18 match world cup qualification and TWO Copa Americas . Hes had enough. Aguero is quitting too.
So is Mascherano. And from what I've read on Twitter, Lavezzi, Biglia and Higuain might go, too.

Sounds like the Argentina FA is an absolute mess right now and the players don't want to deal with it any more. That's probably the biggest reason so many are threatening to retire.

Or they are just being twats after losing to Chile for 2nd straight time.

Rex · Post by **Rex** » Mon Jun 27, 2016 8:12 am

at least he went out over the top hahahahahahahaha

Rex · Post by **Rex** » Mon Jun 27, 2016 8:14 am

Even my doggie daycare is riding Messi this morning.

testuser2 · Post by **testuser2** » Mon Jun 27, 2016 8:45 am

psunate77 wrote:His career is tarnished IMO

Garbage. Don't pollute this board as well as the PSU board with repeating what you hear on talk radio.