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FAA investigating Florida mailman's landing of gyrocopter on U.S. Capitol lawn

Some fascinating aspects of this story. Dude was fed up, but had no personal grievance that he has shared with the public. The Tampa Bay Times newspaper was aware of his plan, yet did not rat him out in the spirit of a free and independent press. They'll pay a heavy price for that, I bet.

Most importantly, the incompetence of our DHS protectors yet again on display. And this failure will be misused by them to justify mo money and mo power. The most shocking thing about 9/11 to me was the fact that the Pentagon had no effective air defenses, much less the Capitol and the White House.
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Over the course of 30 years and 268 trials, 96% of FBI expert testimony regarding hair samples found at crime sites was inaccurate.
Eighteen of those defendants were living on death row -- 12 had been executed.
Not necessarily sent of this earth because of the hair samples, but this is sickening.
Cleveland Wright spent 28 years -- almost half his life behind bars -- serving time for a 1978 murder.

His conviction, it now turns out, was based on a false FBI hair analysis.

"I didn't know anything about forensics. I didn't know too much about law when I got arrested and locked up, but I just knew I was innocent," Wright said.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/fbi-hair-an ... ort-finds/
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Pruitt wrote:Over the course of 30 years and 268 trials, 96% of FBI expert testimony regarding hair samples found at crime sites was inaccurate.
Eighteen of those defendants were living on death row -- 12 had been executed.
Not necessarily sent of this earth because of the hair samples, but this is sickening.
Cleveland Wright spent 28 years -- almost half his life behind bars -- serving time for a 1978 murder.

His conviction, it now turns out, was based on a false FBI hair analysis.

"I didn't know anything about forensics. I didn't know too much about law when I got arrested and locked up, but I just knew I was innocent," Wright said.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/fbi-hair-an ... ort-finds/

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howard wrote:FAA investigating Florida mailman's landing of gyrocopter on U.S. Capitol lawn

Some fascinating aspects of this story. Dude was fed up, but had no personal grievance that he has shared with the public. The Tampa Bay Times newspaper was aware of his plan, yet did not rat him out in the spirit of a free and independent press. They'll pay a heavy price for that, I bet.

Most importantly, the incompetence of our DHS protectors yet again on display. And this failure will be misused by them to justify mo money and mo power. The most shocking thing about 9/11 to me was the fact that the Pentagon had no effective air defenses, much less the Capitol and the White House.
The now-secret files will someday reveal that the mailman was CIA. What better way to boost government security spending?

I know, I know. But people laughed for decades when it was said that the CIA was doing LSD experiments. Also, the fake moon landing.

I'm sure the Pentagon has great air defenses. Just against large planes that take off in Russia so they give them at least an hour to scramble the fighters. It's said that the military always prepares to fight the last war. But sometimes they just fixate on WWII and the Battle of Britain, because that was so awesome.
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Pruitt wrote:Over the course of 30 years and 268 trials, 96% of FBI expert testimony regarding hair samples found at crime sites was inaccurate.
Eighteen of those defendants were living on death row -- 12 had been executed.
Not necessarily sent of this earth because of the hair samples, but this is sickening.
Cleveland Wright spent 28 years -- almost half his life behind bars -- serving time for a 1978 murder.

His conviction, it now turns out, was based on a false FBI hair analysis.

"I didn't know anything about forensics. I didn't know too much about law when I got arrested and locked up, but I just knew I was innocent," Wright said.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/fbi-hair-an ... ort-finds/
Scalia sees no problem with this.
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Steve of phpBB wrote:
Pruitt wrote:Over the course of 30 years and 268 trials, 96% of FBI expert testimony regarding hair samples found at crime sites was inaccurate.
Eighteen of those defendants were living on death row -- 12 had been executed.
Not necessarily sent of this earth because of the hair samples, but this is sickening.
Cleveland Wright spent 28 years -- almost half his life behind bars -- serving time for a 1978 murder.

His conviction, it now turns out, was based on a false FBI hair analysis.

"I didn't know anything about forensics. I didn't know too much about law when I got arrested and locked up, but I just knew I was innocent," Wright said.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/fbi-hair-an ... ort-finds/
Scalia sees no problem with this.
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I wish the article explained HOW the analysis was faulty. How were they identifying hair before DNA analysis? Just looking at it under a microscope like they do with bullets?
Totally Kafkaesque
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My brother's blacksmith, who we were pretty good friends with, shot and killed his soon-to-be ex-wife and then took his own life late in April. We just found out about it last night from a blurb in the BloodHorse (horse racing) magazine, since she had an award winning book about horse gravestones about 15 years ago. I would have never thought he was capable of such a thing, but my brother said he was always on the edge of crazy so it doesn't really surprise him. Article here
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Dibs on "Bloodhorse" for a band name.
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Dammit.



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On Tomgram ( tomdispatch.com ), via nakedcapitalism.com . Mass shootings, cop shootings, murder/suicides.
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Wow. I have to turn in my skeptics card, or at least get it updated. That's a whole lot more gun violence here in the sacred homeland than I had implicitly assumed. It's almost as if I've been distracted by the exciting images of evil arabs blowing up good arabs in desert lands half-way around the globe, and have somehow internalized the evil ones as the singular threat to peace and security in America.

On a somewhat related note, I wonder what the average American would estimate as the death and injury totals from the Boston Marathon bombing? My guess is that the average number would be 30-100 times too high for deaths, and 5 to 10 times too high for injuries.
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I would bet the house that you'd be right about that.

Those Muslim boys killed 1/3rd as many as that racist in Charleston the other day.
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Pruitt wrote:I would bet the house that you'd be right about that.

Those Muslim boys killed 1/3rd as many as that racist in Charleston the other day.

Not really a fair comparison considering how #bostonstrong all those people were.
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Birds don’t suck. They lack the necessary anatomical structures to do so.
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Did you see that ludicrous display last night?
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It's pretty odd. Seems like more than a coincidence at this point.
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Birds don’t suck. They lack the necessary anatomical structures to do so.
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The only amazing thing about the panic story is, my subway commute this morning was smooth sailing.
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They warned all the non-Jews to stay home, so there were no crowds for you to fight through? I didn't think they'd try that twice.
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Shocked, SHOCKED I tell you.

http://news.nationalpost.com/news/world ... ate-tunnel

El Chapo Guzman is a free man today - his second escape from Mexico's ultra high security prisons.
Former Mexican Attorney General Jesus Murillo Karam told the AP earlier this year that the U.S. would get Guzman in “about 300 or 400 years” after he served time for all his crimes in Mexico.
He dismissed concerns that Guzman could escape a second time. That risk “does not exist,” Murillo Karam said.
And this interesting bit of news from Vice:
Initial reports said that the government halted flights at Toluca International Airport, which is only about 25 miles from the Antiplano prison. But when reached by VICE News, the airport's director of operations said the facility had received no instructions to cancel or delay flights in an effort to prevent Guzman from boarding a plane.

"We never closed the airport and it's been operating as normal," director Miguel Perez said. "Our security is a little raised, but overall, all normal."
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Shooting in lower Manhattan this afternoon, a few blocks from my Chinatown office (I'm fine, thanks for asking)

HORROR IN SOHO: Security guard who agreed to work overtime at Manhattan federal building shot dead by deranged gunman who then takes his own life

Funny how not a single headline I've seen mentions anything about the gunman's background.
(Security guard who was killed,) Idrisa Camara, 53, was shot at point blank range by 68-year-old Kevin Downing, a retired U.S. Army Reserves captain outraged at being fired by the Department of Labor for allegedly blowing the whistle on what he called “disclosing inexcusable public waste.”

After shooting Camara, Downing shot and killed himself, officials said.
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You are surely referring to his secretive membership in ISIS-Soho and his attempt at passing as a white man?
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That sounds like a description of me. Did I type that aloud?
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You had your lock-tight alibi arranged well in advance, no doubt. It would be devastating to lose more of the leadership cadre. Especially when the Homeland Paranoia Department is going to start sweeping the streets -- and more important, coffee shops and craft breweries -- for guys with long beards, plaid shirts, and those big clunky glasses. ISIS-Soho and ISIS-Park Slope are in big trouble.
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Is this the right thread for the discussion of the sell off? Could be big. China down 8.4%, U.S. Futures down 700. Was the good doctor right all along?
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this is not the best thread to discuss the sell off. this is the place to note finance people jumping from high windows, or disgruntled investors shooting up the Edward Jones office.
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I didn't think this was the right thread. Where's the global economy panic thread?
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'El Chapo': Sean Penn interviewed Guzman before recapture

But the timeline is a bit off. The interview was in October. He was just recaptured a couple days ago.

But still...Sean Penn?

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So Creative Artists Agency (Sean Penn's agents), have better detectives than the Mexican government?

Not all that surprised.
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I read about this last weekend and my head nearly exploded.

It's 2016, how the hell can this be going on in a first world country?

(Rhetorical question)

And the runaround, the bureaucracy that the people of Flint ran into. Unbelievable.
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Water and sewer is serious business that requires large amounts of money and skills. Not surprised at all that a Michigan municipality might not be able to manage it well.
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HaulCitgo wrote:Water and sewer is serious business that requires large amounts of money and skills. Not surprised at all that a Michigan municipality might not be able to manage it well.
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the gm plant got the fuck out real quick when they realized the water was shit. its nice to have money.
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Yeah, I know the facts seldom prevent people here from talking shit about things they know nothing about, but Flint had been on the Detroit water system, which despite Detroit's financial issues was (and is) one of the best water systems in the country.
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