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Also "fun", Pouliot went 8th in the last draft the Rangers had a 1st round pick and he's already teetering on bust status. Edmonton took Yakupov 1st when they were already well into "you guys need some defense bad" status and then somewhere between eight to ten non-Pouliot top 4 D went in the 1st round, including a couple franchise Ds.
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I love looking at old drafts. So much unrealized potential. Some players there who I thought would be huge stars by now. (I never hear Grigorenko's name anymore.) Didn't realize that Tom Wilson was a first-round pick. Fuck him.

Pouliot is still only 23. It just takes some players, especially defensemen, longer to develop. Maybe he's one of those guys.

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bapo! wrote:I love looking at old drafts. So much unrealized potential. Some players there who I thought would be huge stars by now. (I never hear Grigorenko's name anymore.)
Looks like the Sabres really picked the Avs' pocket in that O'Reilly trade. Neither Grigorenko nor Zadorov look like much.
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So, the Pens did what I expected and added some depth defensemen.

The Mark Streit trade is funny. He was with Tampa for less than an hour before being dealt to Pittsburgh. I really want to read the details of this, to see if it was simply because Pittsburgh and Philly don't want to deal with each other. Tampa was able to unload a salary on Philly, and now Philly is paying 4.7% (?!) of Streit's remaining salary.

The next time Streit plays in Tampa, I expect to see one of those video-board montages about his time spent there. Going to be an emotional night.

And the Pens picked up Frankie Corrado, whose series of healthy-scratches was becoming an obsession with the Toronto media for a while. Not as splashy as a Shattenkirk trade, but whatever.

So, that's that. Now it's just a matter of fitting everybody in and waiting for a bunch of players to get healthy. And hoping that the Rangers climb in the standings a bit so that Pittsburgh doesn't have to play Columbus in the first round of the playoffs. That's my main concern right now.
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bapo! wrote:I love looking at old drafts. So much unrealized potential. Some players there who I thought would be huge stars by now. (I never hear Grigorenko's name anymore.)
Looks like the Sabres really picked the Avs' pocket in that O'Reilly trade. Neither Grigorenko nor Zadorov look like much.
Top seven picks combined in first round have just about as many goals as all players picked in rounds 2 through 7 combined (which I suppose at this point is probably not terribly strange, just seems a little more top-heavy a draft than usual.)
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Where you at, Swamp? The Penguins and Blackhawks are playing. I know that it's merely an indoor game, but it's Rivalry Night™. And Fleury's in goal. And he's wearing his special mask!
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I'll admit I was hoping Fleury would get traded to a locale where he would get more work.

But, only because he's on my fantasy hockey team.

This "rivalry night" thing of NBC. At least half the time, the teams playing aren't really big rivals. Like tonight.
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'Rivals' = 'marketable American teams.'

I was just window-shopping on eBay and ended up buying a lot of Quebec Rafales pucks. This might be the worst/greatest sports logo ever. I'll give a puck to the first Swamper who comes to Pittsburgh to visit me, even if it's Sabo.

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Speaking of players who take a long time to develop into good NHL players, Richard Panik scored a helluva goal for the Blackhawks tonight. He and Patrick Kane are ruining my feel-good Fleury story. I'm sure that you can find the goal on Twitter or wherever. It's pretty.

Panik has 17 goals and 17 assists. He's 26. Finally finding his footing. I love seeing this happen.
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PETA sent the Penguins an angry letter about the (lower-case p) penguins that were scared by the fireworks on Saturday. That was predictable.

In my reading, I discovered that penguins are easily frightened and confused. They've been known to occasionally commit suicide. This scene from a Werner Herzog documentary of a penguin walking off into the distance to die alone is heartbreaking. A few weeks ago, seven penguins killed themselves at the Calgary Zoo. Etc.

Considering my favorite sports team is named after them, I know surprisingly little about penguins. Learning that they can be fragile emotionally makes me love them a little bit. I need to learn more. This might be my new pet subject. 2016 was all about ants. 2017 is the year of the penguin.

(The Penguins, the hockey team, had an off day today, so I have nothing hockey-related to post.)
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Here is a joke that my daughter loved to tell when she was about 7 years old.

One day, a man was walking down the street with a penguin. A policeman came up to him and said, "Hey! You can't just walk around city streets with a penguin! Take that thing to the zoo!"

The next day, the same policeman again saw the same man with the same penguin, standing at a street corner. He ran up to him and said, "Hey! Didn't I tell you to take that penguin to the zoo?"

The man replied, "Yes! It was great, thank you! And, today, we are going to the movies!"
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^^^

Yay, sancarlos's daughter!

We need more of this. When the sports team has a day off, we should talk about the lowercase version of that team. Now we just need some good Knickerbocker jokes. (As if the the team doesn't give us enough.)

Any Werner Herzog fans here? I've seen a bunch of his movies and documentaries. Used to love that man in my film-buff days. I think I posted a still from 'Aguirre' for some odd reason a few weeks ago. Can't remember which thread. Maybe this one.

Anyway, sorry about posting about suicidal penguins. I just got home from the bar. This is the stuff that you have to deal with sometimes, Swamp. The hockey team has a game tomorrow. I promise to be better then. G'night!
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sancarlos wrote:Here is a joke that my daughter loved to tell when she was about 7 years old.

One day, a man was walking down the street with a penguin. A policeman came up to him and said, "Hey! You can't just walk around city streets with a penguin! Take that thing to the zoo!"

The next day, the same policeman again saw the same man with the same penguin, standing at a street corner. He ran up to him and said, "Hey! Didn't I tell you to take that penguin to the zoo?"

The man replied, "Yes! It was great, thank you! And, today, we are going to the movies!"
That's my grandfather's joke! He grew up near Pittsburgh (Wellsburg, WV), way before the hockey team though.
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bapo! wrote:PETA sent the Penguins an angry letter about the (lower-case p) penguins that were scared by the fireworks on Saturday. That was predictable.

In my reading, I discovered that penguins are easily frightened and confused. They've been known to occasionally commit suicide. This scene from a Werner Herzog documentary of a penguin walking off into the distance to die alone is heartbreaking. A few weeks ago, seven penguins killed themselves at the Calgary Zoo. Etc.

Considering my favorite sports team is named after them, I know surprisingly little about penguins. Learning that they can be fragile emotionally makes me love them a little bit. I need to learn more. This might be my new pet subject. 2016 was all about ants. 2017 is the year of the penguin.

(The Penguins, the hockey team, had an off day today, so I have nothing hockey-related to post.)
Go to the National Aviary in the 'burgh. They have penguins, so you can learn more stuff about them.
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bapo! wrote:PETA sent the Penguins an angry letter about the (lower-case p) penguins that were scared by the fireworks on Saturday. That was predictable.

In my reading, I discovered that penguins are easily frightened and confused. They've been known to occasionally commit suicide. This scene from a Werner Herzog documentary of a penguin walking off into the distance to die alone is heartbreaking. A few weeks ago, seven penguins killed themselves at the Calgary Zoo. Etc.

Considering my favorite sports team is named after them, I know surprisingly little about penguins. Learning that they can be fragile emotionally makes me love them a little bit. I need to learn more. This might be my new pet subject. 2016 was all about ants. 2017 is the year of the penguin.

(The Penguins, the hockey team, had an off day today, so I have nothing hockey-related to post.)
Go to the National Aviary in the 'burgh. They have penguins, so you can learn more stuff about them.
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Sabo wrote:Go to the National Aviary in the 'burgh. They have penguins, so you can learn more stuff about them.
Nah, I can't. Even if the animals are being treated well (and the National Aviary has a great reputation), I don't want to see them in captivity. I've never been to a zoo or aviary.

Still no Letang tonight. And probably not on Sunday, either. After that, who knows? He should be a protected species at this point.

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Nice to see Streit scored against his old team!
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It's the NHL culture. What's the first thing the Jets did yesterday? Fight Malkin.

Pens have to protect themselves and hey they won 7-4 because the Jets were distracted. At the end they were still trying to fight Malkin.
So it worked. NHL will do nothing about it.
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Yeah, I was going to talk about Sestito today. We've been talking about this stuff for years, and every year there seems to be a little less of it. But it's still a part of the game.

The last Pens/Jets game was a shitshow. So the Pens called up their enforcer from the AHL, anticipating another shitshow.

Malkin and Wheeler fought early in the game to settle an old score. (Malkin had hit Wheeler with a headshot a month ago.) After the game, they talked about how they respected each other for fighting. Hockey is weird.

Then Sestito got into a fight immediately afterwards. And then he boarded Enstrom. So, Sestito will probably be suspended, but it won't matter because he wasn't going to play again anyway. And Enstrom might be seriously hurt. This sucks.

Oh, and there's all kinds of rumor/speculation about Letang. Coach Sullivan said that it's not related to his stroke or heart condition, nor is it a concussion. Still no timetable on his return.
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degenerasian wrote:It's the NHL culture. What's the first thing the Jets did yesterday? Fight Malkin.

Pens have to protect themselves and hey they won 7-4 because the Jets were distracted. At the end they were still trying to fight Malkin.
So it worked. NHL will do nothing about it.
Yep. And Malkin was great last night. An angry Malkin either hurts the team by taking dumb penalties, or he's the best player in the league. Sometimes both in the same night.
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This is a week old now, but does anybody have an opinion on the latest dumb hockey debate?

Joshua Ho-Sang made his debut for the Islanders. To the shock and horror of the hockey world, he wears jersey #66, the same number as Mario Lemieux. That number has been retired by the Penguins, of course, but not by the league as a whole. So, I guess there's been an unwritten rule about wearing 66, and then this punk comes along and ignores history and tradition. Or whatever.

I think it's dumb. The Islanders never retired that number, so Ho-Sang should be allowed to wear it. (By this measure, Taylor Hall has worn Bobby Orr's #4 and Gordie Howe's #9 in his career, so I guess we should doubly hate him.)

Personally, I'm just excited to finally see Ho-Sang in the NHL. He was a teammate of Connor McDavid's before they entered the OHL, and he was nearly as hyped as McDavid back then. Since then, there have been a lot of ups and downs, but he's still a gifted player. Plus, he's a Jamaican/Chinese/Jewish kid from Toronto, which isn't something you see in hockey very often. (Aside from the Toronto part.)
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MAF was great in OT.
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I have no problem with JHS wearing #66.
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rass wrote:MAF was great in OT.
MAF was incredible all night. He stopped 40 of 42 shots. He's so fun to watch when he's on, and he's been very good for a while now. (.933 in his last 6 games, and .923 in his last 15 games.)

Very entertaining game. Fast, clean, very few penalties, a ton of offense, MAF doing MAF things, McDavid doing McDavid things. I wish I could watch more games like that.
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Carl Hagelin is hurt now, is expected to be out about a month. The Penguins now have 7 starters out with injury: Hagelin, Hornqvist, Rust, Cullen, Letang, Maatta, and Daley.

Somehow, they've won 5 in a row and are now 1 point back of Washington for the best record in the league. And they had 48 shots on goal last night. This team amazes me.

Conor Sheary made a great play to set up a Jake Guentzel goal, then scored an empty-netter. When I watched the Pens/Oilers game on Friday, I thought, 'I wish that McDavid had a winger like Sheary. Somebody fast enough to keep up with him.' Crosby is difficult to play with, and for years there was talk about the inability of the Pens to find him a complementary winger. Never would have guessed that one of his best linemates would be a 5'8” undrafted player.
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Pens-Flames game insanely good right now halfwat through.
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Malkin and Hainsey apparently both got hurt on Wednesday.
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Damn Sid...
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Crosby with the hat trick. Fleury with the shut-out. Tonight I'm gonna party like it's 2009. Actually, I'm going to work. Then maybe I'll eat a slice of cheesecake when I come home.
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So, a couple of nights ago, Crosby hit Ryan O'Reilly in the down there. Tonight, he slashed Mark Methot and removed part of his finger.

Neither of these plays was especially malicious. I see that Methot slash a dozen times every game, but it usually doesn't result in an amputation. But this is the kind of cheap stuff that I hate, and I especially hate it coming from Crosby. I realized years ago that he could be kind of a dick, but I haven't seen much of this stuff for a while. Now he's done it two games in a row.

It's sad because it's detracting from the rest of his game, which is as good as it's ever been. He scored maybe the best goal of his career on Tuesday, but a lot of the post-game talk was focused on his O'Reilly cup check.

Stop hurting people, Sid.
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So now Pens fans aren't livid about any slash to the hand/wrist area? I thought it was always a Grave(s) offense!!!
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Was that second sentence initially part of the post? If not, it was smart to come back and add it. Really tilts the tone more towards snarky than bitchy.
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I realized maybe four of us would get the allusion without the second sentence and now we're probably up to seven.
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Hey, whaddaya know, the Penguins are on NBCSN's Rivalry Night again. (The Pens' list of rivals is about 29 deep, apparently.) Anyway, it's the Blackhawks tonight. You don't have anything else to do, Swamp, so watch the game.

Actually, I don't really care, either. I'm just waiting for the playoffs to begin. But it's hockey on my television. I'm not going to look away.
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bapo! wrote:Hey, whaddaya know, the Penguins are on NBCSN's Rivalry Night again. (The Pens' list of rivals is about 29 deep, apparently.) Anyway, it's the Blackhawks tonight. You don't have anything else to do, Swamp, so watch the game.

Actually, I don't really care, either. I'm just waiting for the playoffs to begin. But it's hockey on my television. I'm not going to look away.
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BSF21 wrote:That was delicious.
It was...something. Patrick Kane was fun to watch, so at least I got something out of it. Have the Blackhawks clinched the first seed in the West yet?

For the past week or so, the local media has been trying to create a goalie controversy. Murray has been flat and probably needs some rest. Meanwhile, Fleury has been great the past couple of months. So, naturally, Fleury gave up 4 goals in the first period. So much for that.

It's pretty clear that Pittsburgh will be playing Columbus in the first round of the playoffs, which is exactly what I don't want. It's going to be a lot of fun, but it's going to be nasty.
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bapo! wrote:
BSF21 wrote:That was delicious.
It was...something. Patrick Kane was fun to watch, so at least I got something out of it. Have the Blackhawks clinched the first seed in the West yet?

For the past week or so, the local media has been trying to create a goalie controversy. Murray has been flat and probably needs some rest. Meanwhile, Fleury has been great the past couple of months. So, naturally, Fleury gave up 4 goals in the first period. So much for that.

It's pretty clear that Pittsburgh will be playing Columbus in the first round of the playoffs, which is exactly what I don't want. It's going to be a lot of fun, but it's going to be nasty.
I'm astounded PIT is as competitive as they are right now given the injuries.

MAF honestly wasn't all that bad last night. Hawks dominated puck time, the first one was a bad defensive lapse, second one I missed, 3rd one was a BAD goal (but what a brilliant touch pass by Kane to Kruger thru the NZ), and the 4th was a 3 on 1 (also a bit soft, but hey, 3 on 1).

The East is going to make for some fun playoff hockey. The West is pretty easy to map at this point. Much to the disappointment of BSFF, her Wild couldn't back into the playoffs any harder if they tried. SJ is really the only team in the West that scares me much.
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