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degenerasian wrote: Tue Feb 11, 2020 1:16 pm
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DaveInSeattle wrote: Tue Feb 11, 2020 12:21 am Also, 'Snowpiercer', his prior film, is really really good.

We watch 'Ad Astra' Saturday night. Kinda slow and ponderous...trying too hard for the 2001 vibe.
Cosign on Snowpiercer. Interestingly, some of the same class issues that are so prominent in Parasite.

Looking forward to what he does next.
As a follower of Asian films, there are a ton of movies like this, talking about social issues. I find it amusing that the Oscars has only discovered Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon 2000 and Parasite 2020. Like there are no other Asian films before or after. Let's see what happens in 2040.

In the modern era, only one other Asian film has one the Foreign Film Oscar besides these two. Departures in 2008, which was a great movie about the social taboos of running a funeral home.

After being a jackass, wanted to say that while the Oscars has ignored these films, I've had somewhat of an interesting insight into certain subset of the Asian film genre: Re-makes.

I went to high school with a guy named Roy Lee, who specializes in taking popular Asian films and convincing the rights owners to remake them in English speaking versions. (The thinking when he first started, which is hard to argue with, is that American audiences wouldn't sit through movies with Asian actors and subtitles.)

First big hit he "produced" was The Ring, then The Grudge, and the Lake House. This success allowed him to attach himself to The Departed and now he's more a mix of the two types of movies - remakes and traditional movies.

My wife was pretty good friends with the dude, and we all partied quite a bit. He was an odd bird, a bit of an asshole... My wife liked him, so there must've been something there to like.
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brian wrote: Tue Feb 11, 2020 1:19 pm Crouching Tiger wasn't even the best Asian film of 2000. That would be this one, one of the better movies I've ever seen in any language.
Yup. That film was amazing.
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degenerasian wrote: Tue Feb 11, 2020 3:42 pm
brian wrote: Tue Feb 11, 2020 1:19 pm Crouching Tiger wasn't even the best Asian film of 2000. That would be this one, one of the better movies I've ever seen in any language.
Yup. That film was amazing.
It's on YouTube.
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Roma was a piece of garbage. Just because a 2018 movie is in black and white and not in English does not as it a good movie. Criterium Collection....weak. Plot matters. Especially when the dialog is weak. And Kung Fu baby daddy is a joke.
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wlu_lax6 wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2020 4:31 pm Roma was a piece of garbage. Just because a 2018 movie is in black and white and not in English does not as it a good movie. Criterium Collection....weak. Plot matters. Especially when the dialog is weak. And Kung Fu baby daddy is a joke.
Heresy! I love that film.

Watched "Rocket Man" tonight. Feh. But a painless way to spend the evening with my wife and daughter.
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Parasite—holy smokes.

I can’t decide whether the last 15 minutes made it better or worse. I’m going to find myself thinking up alternate endings that didn’t involve that. Or that. Or THAT
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Pruitt wrote: Sat Feb 22, 2020 11:16 pm
wlu_lax6 wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2020 4:31 pm Roma was a piece of garbage. Just because a 2018 movie is in black and white and not in English does not as it a good movie. Criterium Collection....weak. Plot matters. Especially when the dialog is weak. And Kung Fu baby daddy is a joke.
Heresy! I love that film.
Explain Pruitt. And I want at least 3 sentence on kung fu baby dad's intimidation kung fu at the training field.
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Pruitt wrote: Sat Feb 22, 2020 11:16 pm
wlu_lax6 wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2020 4:31 pm Roma was a piece of garbage. Just because a 2018 movie is in black and white and not in English does not as it a good movie. Criterium Collection....weak. Plot matters. Especially when the dialog is weak. And Kung Fu baby daddy is a joke.
Heresy! I love that film.

Watched "Rocket Man" tonight. Feh. But a painless way to spend the evening with my wife and daughter.
I thought it was wildly superior to Bohemian Rhapsody.
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Giff wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2020 11:02 am
Pruitt wrote: Sat Feb 22, 2020 11:16 pm
wlu_lax6 wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2020 4:31 pm Roma was a piece of garbage. Just because a 2018 movie is in black and white and not in English does not as it a good movie. Criterium Collection....weak. Plot matters. Especially when the dialog is weak. And Kung Fu baby daddy is a joke.
Heresy! I love that film.

Watched "Rocket Man" tonight. Feh. But a painless way to spend the evening with my wife and daughter.
I thought it was wildly superior to Bohemian Rhapsody.
No interest in the Bohemian Rhapsody, but my daughter who has seen them both agrees with you wholeheartedly.

"Rocketman" was painless shlock - the classic biopic so amazingly satirized in "Walk Hard"

As for "Roma," it was technically brilliant. The long scenes were astounding, and...
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A couple scenes will linger in my mind forever. That whole sequence from the time they arrive at the furniture store to get a crib to the end of her holding the dead baby is unlike anything I have ever seen. It blew me away and left me in a puddle of tears.

The scene with the guy who knocked up the maid in the training was showing the paramilitary training that so many young goons underwent at the time.

From Time:
The events of Roma follow the horrific legacy of 1968. As the family drama unfolds, tensions within the city begin to boil. Campaign posters and signs touting the PRI appear in several scenes, while Fermín (Jorge Antonio Guerrero) a young man whom Cleo dates, is shown training with several hundred young men as part of a secretive paramilitary force.

These political stresses come to a head in Roma’s depiction of another event that rocked Mexico to its core: the Corpus Christi Massacre, which provides the backdrop to one of the film’s most climactic scenes. On June 10, 1971, a crowd of protesting students was attacked by the Halcones, or “Falcons,” a group of young government-trained paramilitaries intended to pass as a rival student faction. Armed with knives and bamboo sticks, the thugs killed dozens of demonstrators, and the clash sent shockwaves throughout the country.
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Bohemian Rhapsody suuuuuucked. It was bad enough that I have no interest in Rocket Man.
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It occurs to me that the Parasite ending is 100% a spin on
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Raising Arizona.

I can’t stop thinking about that. There’s a lot of obvious Coen Brothers influence the whole time, but that ending is basically Raising Arizona made way darker for a 21st century audience. So maybe it was all necessary.
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Parasite was wild!! Holy shit. And I watched with a bunch of younger folks too and they were blown away. That movie hits on several levels.
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Rex wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2020 4:56 pm It occurs to me that the Parasite ending is 100% a spin on
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Raising Arizona.

I can’t stop thinking about that. There’s a lot of obvious Coen Brothers influence the whole time, but that ending is basically Raising Arizona made way darker for a 21st century audience. So maybe it was all necessary.
I think it was all necessary. And I thought the last few scenes after the crazy shit happened were incredibly powerful. It was a pretty haunting final scene for me. (I thought the acting by the actor who played “Kevin” was fantastic throughout the movie and have been thinking a lot about how his character ended up.)
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Finally saw Green Book. I wouldn’t say it sucked but I’m at a loss to figure out how it won Best Picture.
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brian wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2020 8:46 pm Finally saw Green Book. I wouldn’t say it sucked but I’m at a loss to figure out how it won Best Picture.
This is the correct opinion.
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I can see why Mahersala Ali won though.
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Shirley wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2020 12:49 pm Bohemian Rhapsody suuuuuucked. It was bad enough that I have no interest in Rocket Man.
Co-Signed.
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Shirley wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2020 12:49 pm Bohemian Rhapsody suuuuuucked. It was bad enough that I have no interest in Rocket Man.
I happened to finally see Rocket Man last night as well and I totally agree that BR sucked ass, but Rocket Man was good. A solid B+/3-stars (out of 4) movie.
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Watched Gone Girl tonight with everyone. Fuck, that movie is crazy.
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Johnnie wrote: Fri Feb 28, 2020 5:49 pm Watched Gone Girl tonight with everyone. Fuck, that movie is crazy.
Yeah, that’s a good one.
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Johnnie wrote: Fri Feb 28, 2020 5:49 pm Watched Gone Girl tonight with everyone. Fuck, that movie is crazy.
oh yeah it is. Rosamund Pike is awesome in that movie.
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DaveInSeattle wrote: Sat Feb 29, 2020 11:08 pm
Johnnie wrote: Fri Feb 28, 2020 5:49 pm Watched Gone Girl tonight with everyone. Fuck, that movie is crazy.
oh yeah it is. Rosamund Pike is awesome in that movie.
Nominated for the Oscar. She should've won it. Hell, Simmons did the '5 year Oscars' thing again, and it came to my attention how criminally underrepresented that movie was.

There wasn't a person who I watched it with that didn't have some very strong reaction to the entire thing.
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The Last Black Man in San Francisco was good but not great.
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Interesting but over long and so heavy that it ground me down.And I found the lead actor to be really uninvolving.
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Ford V Ferrari was a perfect airplane movie. Well done...and Christen Bale was great. Tracy Letts was an eye-opener as Henry Ford II. The guy is a really good actor, in addition to being a playwright.
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DaveInSeattle wrote: Thu Mar 05, 2020 9:12 pm Ford V Ferrari was a perfect airplane movie. Well done...and Christen Bale was great. Tracy Letts was an eye-opener as Henry Ford II. The guy is a really good actor, in addition to being a playwright.
I liked it much more than I expected to.
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A_B wrote: Thu Mar 05, 2020 9:15 pm
DaveInSeattle wrote: Thu Mar 05, 2020 9:12 pm Ford V Ferrari was a perfect airplane movie. Well done...and Christen Bale was great. Tracy Letts was an eye-opener as Henry Ford II. The guy is a really good actor, in addition to being a playwright.
I liked it much more than I expected to.
Same here. Although...I think Matt Damon is in the Harrison Ford moment of just saying 'Fuck it...I'm being myself' instead of acting.
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DaveInSeattle wrote: Thu Mar 05, 2020 9:17 pm
A_B wrote: Thu Mar 05, 2020 9:15 pm
DaveInSeattle wrote: Thu Mar 05, 2020 9:12 pm Ford V Ferrari was a perfect airplane movie. Well done...and Christen Bale was great. Tracy Letts was an eye-opener as Henry Ford II. The guy is a really good actor, in addition to being a playwright.
I liked it much more than I expected to.
Same here. Although...I think Matt Damon is in the Harrison Ford moment of just saying 'Fuck it...I'm being myself' instead of acting.
Except good.
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Giff wrote: Fri Mar 06, 2020 10:14 am
DaveInSeattle wrote: Thu Mar 05, 2020 9:17 pm
A_B wrote: Thu Mar 05, 2020 9:15 pm
DaveInSeattle wrote: Thu Mar 05, 2020 9:12 pm Ford V Ferrari was a perfect airplane movie. Well done...and Christen Bale was great. Tracy Letts was an eye-opener as Henry Ford II. The guy is a really good actor, in addition to being a playwright.
I liked it much more than I expected to.
Same here. Although...I think Matt Damon is in the Harrison Ford moment of just saying 'Fuck it...I'm being myself' instead of acting.
Except good.
One small beef with the movie:
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Did they really have live TV coverage of Le Mans in 1966? Or, live radio coverage of the 24 hours of Daytona?
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Just watched "Yesterday" and really, really didn't like it.

Thought the lead guy was terrible. Premise was a good one though, but it was so predictable...
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Right down to the fact that the guy Ella dumped at Wembley found love with her roommate. Shown in two cutaways. And the fact that those 2 strangers remembered the Beatles as well was a moronic red herring.
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Watched 1408. This is a John Cusak horror film based on a King short story. Not a big horror fan, but this one was pretty interesting. Apparently they filmed 3 or 4 different endings
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Pruitt wrote: Fri Mar 06, 2020 10:56 pm Just watched "Yesterday" and really, really didn't like it.

Thought the lead guy was terrible. Premise was a good one though, but it was so predictable...
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Right down to the fact that the guy Ella dumped at Wembley found love with her roommate. Shown in two cutaways. And the fact that those 2 strangers remembered the Beatles as well was a moronic red herring.
I liked it. It was light fare, but pretty enjoyable, if only for another reminder of just how much good music the Beatles made. And I didn't really think he should have felt too guilty for cashing in on those songs. If only he remembered them, how did know for sure that it wasn't all part of a delusion he got from being hit by the truck? That makes a lot more sense than the idea that he somehow jumped into some weird alternate timeline.
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Shirley wrote: Sun Mar 08, 2020 9:05 pm
Pruitt wrote: Fri Mar 06, 2020 10:56 pm Just watched "Yesterday" and really, really didn't like it.

Thought the lead guy was terrible. Premise was a good one though, but it was so predictable...
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Right down to the fact that the guy Ella dumped at Wembley found love with her roommate. Shown in two cutaways. And the fact that those 2 strangers remembered the Beatles as well was a moronic red herring.
I liked it. It was light fare, but pretty enjoyable, if only for another reminder of just how much good music the Beatles made. And I didn't really think he should have felt too guilty for cashing in on those songs. If only he remembered them, how did know for sure that it wasn't all part of a delusion he got from being hit by the truck? That makes a lot more sense than the idea that he somehow jumped into some weird alternate timeline.
I never really listen to the Beatles and haven't for years, but since watching the movie, I've been bingeing on them.

The whole guilt thing was and timeline thing was poorly handled.
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And those two strangers that were presented as a threat but who were thrilled that he was bringing the music back? Made no sense whatsoever. Why did 3 people in the whole world remember the Beatles?
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DaveInSeattle wrote: Fri Mar 06, 2020 9:39 pm
Giff wrote: Fri Mar 06, 2020 10:14 am
DaveInSeattle wrote: Thu Mar 05, 2020 9:17 pm
A_B wrote: Thu Mar 05, 2020 9:15 pm
DaveInSeattle wrote: Thu Mar 05, 2020 9:12 pm Ford V Ferrari was a perfect airplane movie. Well done...and Christen Bale was great. Tracy Letts was an eye-opener as Henry Ford II. The guy is a really good actor, in addition to being a playwright.
I liked it much more than I expected to.
Same here. Although...I think Matt Damon is in the Harrison Ford moment of just saying 'Fuck it...I'm being myself' instead of acting.
Except good.
One small beef with the movie:
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Did they really have live TV coverage of Le Mans in 1966? Or, live radio coverage of the 24 hours of Daytona?
I haven't watched the movie yet, just a general comment on how awful Harrison Ford has been for a very long time.
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Pruitt wrote: Mon Mar 09, 2020 6:28 am
Shirley wrote: Sun Mar 08, 2020 9:05 pm
Pruitt wrote: Fri Mar 06, 2020 10:56 pm Just watched "Yesterday" and really, really didn't like it.

Thought the lead guy was terrible. Premise was a good one though, but it was so predictable...
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Right down to the fact that the guy Ella dumped at Wembley found love with her roommate. Shown in two cutaways. And the fact that those 2 strangers remembered the Beatles as well was a moronic red herring.
I liked it. It was light fare, but pretty enjoyable, if only for another reminder of just how much good music the Beatles made. And I didn't really think he should have felt too guilty for cashing in on those songs. If only he remembered them, how did know for sure that it wasn't all part of a delusion he got from being hit by the truck? That makes a lot more sense than the idea that he somehow jumped into some weird alternate timeline.
I never really listen to the Beatles and haven't for years, but since watching the movie, I've been bingeing on them.

The whole guilt thing was and timeline thing was poorly handled.
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And those two strangers that were presented as a threat but who were thrilled that he was bringing the music back? Made no sense whatsoever. Why did 3 people in the whole world remember the Beatles?
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I'm pretty sure you weren't supposed to think too much about how the world forgot the Beatles. It's not a sci-fi movie. It was just a plot device. That said, I agree that the way they handled the two folks who remembered was clumsy.
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Shirley wrote: Sun Mar 08, 2020 9:05 pm
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I'm pretty sure you weren't supposed to think too much about how the world forgot the Beatles. It's not a sci-fi movie. It was just a plot device. That said, I agree that the way they handled the two folks who remembered was clumsy.

You're right.

Sometimes I wish I didn;t graduate in film. Makes me so damn pretentious.
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I know I'm late to the game on this...but '20 Feet From Stardom' is a great movie. And the producers had some great pull to get interviews with Sting, Springsteen, Stevie Wonder, and Mick Jagger.
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Just watched "Ford vs. Ferrari" with my car fanatic son.

He loved it, I liked it a lot. Those cars... man, those cars are so beautiful...

Also, I thought Matt Damon was good in it.
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No way they had live coverage of Le Mans back in the day. Was about to say that the villainous Ford Exec was a bit over the top, but my son told me that it really happened that way. Fuck Ford!
ETA: Harrison Ford has sucked for years.
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Just watched that Yesterday movie ( on hbo and I stumbled across it). I know you all discussed it a bit a few pages back at some point. I...didn’t hate it? I thought I would hate it.
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It’s the 50th anniversary of Beyond The Valley Of The Dolls. Love that movie.
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As with most Russ Meyer films - it's Trashy-licious!
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