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It's a balmy 16 degrees here. But back up to 50 for the weekend.
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Scottie wrote:
degenerasian wrote:It's a balmy -12ºC today. Feels great after the -35 we got all last week.
Of course it's warm enough to snow again so the streets are white.
It's snowing here. Which means that there is not a fucking chance in hell that I'm talking a vehicle near the streets. The drivers here can't handle dry August weather. Snow? Completely out of the question.

yeah I heard YVR got down to -10 last night.. what a disaster.
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degenerasian wrote:
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degenerasian wrote:It's a balmy -12ºC today. Feels great after the -35 we got all last week.
Of course it's warm enough to snow again so the streets are white.
It's snowing here. Which means that there is not a fucking chance in hell that I'm talking a vehicle near the streets. The drivers here can't handle dry August weather. Snow? Completely out of the question.

yeah I heard YVR got down to -10 last night.. what a disaster.
I have a friend who just moved to Calgary and it's been fun looking at her pics of the snow. She's assimilated pretty well for being a nearly lifelong Houstonian.
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Giff wrote:
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Scottie wrote:
It's snowing here. Which means that there is not a fucking chance in hell that I'm talking a vehicle near the streets. The drivers here can't handle dry August weather. Snow? Completely out of the question.

yeah I heard YVR got down to -10 last night.. what a disaster.
I have a friend who just moved to Calgary and it's been fun looking at her pics of the snow. She's assimilated pretty well for being a nearly lifelong Houstonian.

she will also know there have been a million accidents. The city has done a horrible job with snow removal (meaning there isn't any). The highways should never be white.
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mini-rant.

I know that Calgarians often mock other cities for being wusses and not being able to handle a 'bit of snow'

But is our bravado really worth it? Is going to work and/or school in -30 weather on slick streets the government refuses to sand really worth it? In this day and age, why can't people do some work from home? People are stuck in traffic for hours then get to work at 10:00 all stressed out anyways.

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I take transit so I'm ok to slowly get into work but if I had to drive on the highways, I'm using my vacation days. I would save myself and others a lot of grief. I got it easy. Parents who have to drive their kids to school/daycare then drive themselves to work and then have to do the same on the way home... that can't be fun.
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Snow not sticking at all in the city. I would guess about 2" has fallen. Morning commute was less crowded than usual. FDR drive coming home at noon was empty (two patients cancelled because of snow, short day for me). Blizzard scare tactics for the weather media worked out nicely for me.

Still snowing lightly, but steadily.
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Sunny and 30s today in the Front Range. 30 is about what it's been in office the past few days, so I'm really looking forward to the 50s this weekend.
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degenerasian wrote:she will also know there have been a million accidents. The city has done a horrible job with snow removal (meaning there isn't any). The highways should never be white.
Even worse here today. Heavy thick snow that is staying. I do have to drive this evening (curling) dammit. The combination of clueless drivers and icy roads is nightmarish; Surrey and Richmond must be flat out harrowing. I had Finnegan and Casey out running around in the backyard, they love playing in the snow, and the whole twenty-some-odd minutes we were out there I could hear distant sirens constantly. And I mean constantly.

Hope MaxWebster wasn't thinking he got away from winter.
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IT'S GETTING RIDICULOUS!

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Only got about 3 inches or so this morning, but that was some of the worst driving I've ever experienced. Growing up in the NY State snow belt than college in Buffalo, I've seen and done a lot of snow driving, but this was horrendous. Had to go down a somewhat steep hill to get to the highway, every car left about a 10 car length gap between the car in front of them, then attempted a controlled slide down the hill. Much more difficult with cars stuck on both sides of the street and cars coming up the hill. Basically had to slowly ease off the breaks without fully letting go, slide 10 feet, attempt to stop. Horrendous. My wife got stuck for about 10 minutes until she finally got enough traction. Several roads in my neighborhood were gridlocked or closed due to accidents. Supposed to be a bad, snow filled winter this year.
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The Sybian wrote:Only got about 3 inches or so this morning, but that was some of the worst driving I've ever experienced. Growing up in the NY State snow belt than college in Buffalo, I've seen and done a lot of snow driving, but this was horrendous. Had to go down a somewhat steep hill to get to the highway, every car left about a 10 car length gap between the car in front of them, then attempted a controlled slide down the hill. Much more difficult with cars stuck on both sides of the street and cars coming up the hill. Basically had to slowly ease off the breaks without fully letting go, slide 10 feet, attempt to stop. Horrendous. My wife got stuck for about 10 minutes until she finally got enough traction. Several roads in my neighborhood were gridlocked or closed due to accidents. Supposed to be a bad, snow filled winter this year.
its going to be bad tomorrow morning. heck, i have a delayed opening tomorrow. the second one of the week. and an early dismissal today. this has been a weird week weatherwise.
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cerrano wrote:
The Sybian wrote:Only got about 3 inches or so this morning, but that was some of the worst driving I've ever experienced. Growing up in the NY State snow belt than college in Buffalo, I've seen and done a lot of snow driving, but this was horrendous. Had to go down a somewhat steep hill to get to the highway, every car left about a 10 car length gap between the car in front of them, then attempted a controlled slide down the hill. Much more difficult with cars stuck on both sides of the street and cars coming up the hill. Basically had to slowly ease off the breaks without fully letting go, slide 10 feet, attempt to stop. Horrendous. My wife got stuck for about 10 minutes until she finally got enough traction. Several roads in my neighborhood were gridlocked or closed due to accidents. Supposed to be a bad, snow filled winter this year.
its going to be bad tomorrow morning. heck, i have a delayed opening tomorrow. the second one of the week. and an early dismissal today. this has been a weird week weatherwise.

Drove the same roads this morning, absolutely no problem at all. My street looked icy, but it was fine.
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The Sybian wrote:
cerrano wrote:
The Sybian wrote:Only got about 3 inches or so this morning, but that was some of the worst driving I've ever experienced. Growing up in the NY State snow belt than college in Buffalo, I've seen and done a lot of snow driving, but this was horrendous. Had to go down a somewhat steep hill to get to the highway, every car left about a 10 car length gap between the car in front of them, then attempted a controlled slide down the hill. Much more difficult with cars stuck on both sides of the street and cars coming up the hill. Basically had to slowly ease off the breaks without fully letting go, slide 10 feet, attempt to stop. Horrendous. My wife got stuck for about 10 minutes until she finally got enough traction. Several roads in my neighborhood were gridlocked or closed due to accidents. Supposed to be a bad, snow filled winter this year.
its going to be bad tomorrow morning. heck, i have a delayed opening tomorrow. the second one of the week. and an early dismissal today. this has been a weird week weatherwise.

Drove the same roads this morning, absolutely no problem at all. My street looked icy, but it was fine.
i think we might have been one of five schools in the state to have a delayed opening.
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Let me ask the parents in the audience a question.

If it is cold outside, say 5 degrees this morning, is it acceptable to bitch ALL over Facebook because your poor kid had to stand outside with a coat and hat on for 10 minutes for the bus to arrive? Can you believe there was no delay??? If they delayed school 2 hours, the temperature would have easily gotten up to a balmy 9 degrees and your kids wouldn't have had to suffer right?

Maybe it's because I'm not a parent, but cut it the fuck out people. It's absurd. Breeding a culture of entitled little fucks that never have to experience the slightest inconvenience. Can't wait to see little Kay all grown up at 19 and wondering why no one has handed her a 75k per year job. After all, she stayed until 5:20 TWICE last month.
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BSF21 wrote:Let me ask the parents in the audience a question.

If it is cold outside, say 5 degrees this morning, is it acceptable to bitch ALL over Facebook because your poor kid had to stand outside with a coat and hat on for 10 minutes for the bus to arrive? Can you believe there was no delay??? If they delayed school 2 hours, the temperature would have easily gotten up to a balmy 9 degrees and your kids wouldn't have had to suffer right?

Maybe it's because I'm not a parent, but cut it the fuck out people. It's absurd. Breeding a culture of entitled little fucks that never have to experience the slightest inconvenience. Can't wait to see little Kay all grown up at 19 and wondering why no one has handed her a 75k per year job. After all, she stayed until 5:20 TWICE last month.

I'll address the 2nd part. The last 2 years, anyone we have hired that is under 25 has been useless and entitled. It's only going to get worse.
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BSF21 wrote:Let me ask the parents in the audience a question.

If it is cold outside, say 5 degrees this morning, is it acceptable to bitch ALL over Facebook because your poor kid had to stand outside with a coat and hat on for 10 minutes for the bus to arrive? Can you believe there was no delay??? If they delayed school 2 hours, the temperature would have easily gotten up to a balmy 9 degrees and your kids wouldn't have had to suffer right?

Maybe it's because I'm not a parent, but cut it the fuck out people. It's absurd. Breeding a culture of entitled little fucks that never have to experience the slightest inconvenience. Can't wait to see little Kay all grown up at 19 and wondering why no one has handed her a 75k per year job. After all, she stayed until 5:20 TWICE last month.

100% with you. Even if you feel this way, why run to Facebook to bitch? white people problem taken to an extreme. The proper response is "Whaaaaaa![/Artie Lange'd]
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degenerasian wrote:
BSF21 wrote:Let me ask the parents in the audience a question.

If it is cold outside, say 5 degrees this morning, is it acceptable to bitch ALL over Facebook because your poor kid had to stand outside with a coat and hat on for 10 minutes for the bus to arrive? Can you believe there was no delay??? If they delayed school 2 hours, the temperature would have easily gotten up to a balmy 9 degrees and your kids wouldn't have had to suffer right?

Maybe it's because I'm not a parent, but cut it the fuck out people. It's absurd. Breeding a culture of entitled little fucks that never have to experience the slightest inconvenience. Can't wait to see little Kay all grown up at 19 and wondering why no one has handed her a 75k per year job. After all, she stayed until 5:20 TWICE last month.

I'll address the 2nd part. The last 2 years, anyone we have hired that is under 25 has been useless and entitled. It's only going to get worse.
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BSF21 wrote:Let me ask the parents in the audience a question.

If it is cold outside, say 5 degrees this morning, is it acceptable to bitch ALL over Facebook because your poor kid had to stand outside with a coat and hat on for 10 minutes for the bus to arrive? Can you believe there was no delay??? If they delayed school 2 hours, the temperature would have easily gotten up to a balmy 9 degrees and your kids wouldn't have had to suffer right?

Maybe it's because I'm not a parent, but cut it the fuck out people. It's absurd. Breeding a culture of entitled little fucks that never have to experience the slightest inconvenience. Can't wait to see little Kay all grown up at 19 and wondering why no one has handed her a 75k per year job. After all, she stayed until 5:20 TWICE last month.
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So cold that my dog refused her morning walk.

Since it was too cold with the wind (zeroish fahrenheit), I wasn't going to argue, but there was a look on her face that was approaching terror level.
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You know you're old when you starting kvetching about the younger generation. Thing is . . . you're all right. They are the worst generation in history. If only because they are the most selfish generation in human history. I used to think it was lousy parenting. Mass lousy parenting. But it's the Gen-Y kids themselves, millennials, whatever derived label is trending, born during affluent American years, that are the cause. Was it formative years of being educated by Hollywood and first person video games? Childhoods wherein possessions were at whims and unearned? This is what happens to a society when people have it too easy. Just look at the insane shit happening in Sweden these days.

Across the street from my house there are two 20-ish kids that still live at home with their parents. It snowed this week. It rarely snows in Vancouver but there was a couple of feet on the ground for a day or two; driveways and walkways had to be shovelled. Guess who did the shovelling at that house? The 50-year old mom. The kids? Inside, never set foot outdoors. When I was a kid, between 6 and 16, if there was a snowfall I'd be straight outside moving it. Didn't have to be asked. Or cajoled. Or bribed. Or argued with. Ya' just did it. No questions asked. It would never occur to me not to do it. Then all of us kids in the neighborhood would shovel out walkways for neighbors, seniors, anyone who wasn't shovelled out. We weren't getting paid for this. Why would we get paid for something so obvious, right? If we sat on our asses in front of a television while our parents shovelled the driveway, we would have been the neighborhood embarrassment. Or uglier.

The worst I ever saw was this woman I knew whose near 30-year old son still lived at home. She wanted her living room painted. He put it off and off and off and off. Finally she paints it. 60-year old woman. She paints it. While he sits in that very living room watching television. Boggles the mind. I once saw that same woman out mowing her lawn. Hundred degrees outside and she's mowing the lawn. The son? Took her car and went to a beach. Walked right past her while she pushed the mower. Got in the car. Left.

You see it everywhere. Even public behavior. Particularly public behavior. Libraries, grocery stores, malls. Utter lack of respect for anyone and everyone. Among the kids today, the degree of selfishness, self-centered entitlement, is staggering. One can only hope that when they have children of their own, a terrifying enough thought, those kids will rebel against their parents' arrogant sense of privilege by actually giving a damn.
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Scottie: I'm 37 years old. I HAVE TO DRIVE TO MY MOM'S PLACE TO SHOVE HER DRIVEWAY!

On really bad snowdays I don't even go home, I just sleep there. I get dinner out of it though!
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Exactly, degen. And you don't think twice about it, right? You just do it. When we were living in Victoria there was one major snowfall. One only, in all the time we lived there. But major, a real mess. We had a 90-year old couple on one side of us and a 90-year old widow across the street. My wife and I went over and shovelled each of them out. Automatically. We didn't discuss it. Had to be done. And we were 46 at the time.

But looking up and down the street that day, you'd see the same thing as I mentioned above. Parents out shovelling. The still-at-home kids nowhere to be seen.
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It actually would be dangerous for kids around the neighbourhood to team up and shovel everyone's driveway.

I'm mean it's not organized or anything. It's totally unstructured unless somewhere were to have registration for an after-school snow-shoveling league where nobody keeps score.
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And see, I blame the baby boomer parents who decided to have children but never actually raise them. And the established baby boomers who make the laws and rules and seem to be way too pussified to do anything of consequence -- except to those of color. Have money? Pay us. We'll set you free. Have you been wronged because you've been butthurt? Well sue those motherfuckers. We'll try them in court...and win.

So here's a latest example of scumbag: This 16 year motherfucker. Killed 4 people, hospitalized 2 and his sentence is probation because his dad can foot the $450,000 bill per year. Texas minimum states between 2-20 years in jail. He gets 10 years probation in that posh "rehab" center.

So obviously this kid sucks, but look at the environment that seemingly condones this behavior. A broken home from rich parents, being taught that "money fixes everything." and when you do something so horrific the judicial system will take care of you.

Blame my generation all you want, but when we've been enabled to this extent what the hell do you expect?
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degenerasian wrote:It actually would be dangerous for kids around the neighbourhood to team up and shovel everyone's driveway.

I'm mean it's not organized or anything. It's totally unstructured unless somewhere were to have registration for an after-school snow-shoveling league where nobody keeps score.
And they must be prevented from making any physical contact. And there has to be an equal number of boys, girls, Asians, East Indians, Blacks, Aboriginals and kids in wheelchairs so they don't feel left out and potentially lesbian bisexual gay transvestite hermy kids and kids with Downs. And they all have to move the exact same amount of snow, to the flake, for the exact same amount of time. And they all have to be the exact same age because the 5-year olds can't shovel snow with the 7-year olds because they aren't at the same level of snow shovelling and one of the little fuckers might get hurt.
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Johnnie wrote:And see, I blame the baby boomer parents who decided to have children but never actually raise them. And the established baby boomers who make the laws and rules and seem to be way too pussified to do anything of consequence -- except to those of color. Have money? Pay us. We'll set you free. Have you been wronged because you've been butthurt? Well sue those motherfuckers. We'll try them in court...and win.

So here's a latest example of scumbag: This 16 year motherfucker. Killed 4 people, hospitalized 2 and his sentence is probation because his dad can foot the $450,000 bill per year. Texas minimum states between 2-20 years in jail. He gets 10 years probation in that posh "rehab" center.

So obviously this kid sucks, but look at the environment that seemingly condones this behavior. A broken home from rich parents, being taught that "money fixes everything." and when you do something so horrific the judicial system will take care of you.

Blame my generation all you want, but when we've been enabled to this extent what the hell do you expect?
Read about that yesterday. In Texas, no less. So much for the stereotype of Texas justice. Probation? That was 100% Canadian style justice, right there. Fuck the victim. There is absolutely no way money didn't change hands in that case. A judge accepting the defense's "expert" claiming "affluenza"? Affluenza? Fuck off. That's the most appalling thing I've heard since the OJ trial. Probation for killing four people and fucking up the lives of how many families. Amazing. That judge has to have a cool million or two in a Barbados bank.

The only upside is that all of the civil suits should (hopefully) wipe out that kid's entire family.
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Scottie, you are of that particular age; you yourself are too young to be a boomer, yet you are too old to have been raised by boomers. I think the parenting style of boomers is an essential ingredient for the character of the current generation of 20-35yo young adults.

Of course, the massive wealth too. But the 60s, 70s and 80s were times of the wealthiest society in the history of mankind as well. I think the fact that more recent wealth was the result of debt and financial shenanigans rather than that earned and saved from excess production is a big factor too. Money that was borrowed/skimmed off the top by Wall Street, truly money for nothing, rather than money earned by building/manufacturing shit and selling it to the world at a profit.

I think the nature of the wealth effects the attitudes of all the generations that enjoyed the wealth.
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I'm just outside the range Howard set, but I think it starts a little bit younger. I think you have to blame the parents and parenting trends of the time. If these kids were taught that you have to earn what you get at age 4, they wouldn't be entitled. I think this generation (as a broad generalization) was helicopter parented, and the parents did everything for them. As a kid, it was just my job to mow the lawn, shovel the driveway, empty the dishwasher... I never questioned it, never asked for an allowance, it was just my job. I look at the family next door, and I am always surprised to see the 50 yo father mowing and shoveling while the 17 yo kid goes out to play football, or just stays inside. I never thought to blame the kid, but think "why aren't they making him shovel/mow?" He is a great kid. Extremely polite, outgoing, friendly. I used to throw a football around with him when I'd be out with my son. I think the parents just never asked or told him to do anything.

Every time it snows we fight my inlaws to let me come over to shovel. I think they see it as an admission that they are getting older, so they get insulted.
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Scottie wrote:
degenerasian wrote:It actually would be dangerous for kids around the neighbourhood to team up and shovel everyone's driveway.

I'm mean it's not organized or anything. It's totally unstructured unless somewhere were to have registration for an after-school snow-shoveling league where nobody keeps score.
And they must be prevented from making any physical contact. And there has to be an equal number of boys, girls, Asians, East Indians, Blacks, Aboriginals and kids in wheelchairs so they don't feel left out and potentially lesbian bisexual gay transvestite hermy kids and kids with Downs. And they all have to move the exact same amount of snow, to the flake, for the exact same amount of time. And they all have to be the exact same age because the 5-year olds can't shovel snow with the 7-year olds because they aren't at the same level of snow shovelling and one of the little fuckers might get hurt.
The real problem is it is very expensive to get all those little shovels of participation to hand out at the end of the season.
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Rush2112 wrote:It's a balmy 16 degrees here. But back up to 50 for the weekend.

Evidently still cold for Peyton. Tee and hee.
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DSafetyGuy wrote:The real problem is it is very expensive to get all those little shovels of participation to hand out at the end of the season.
Oh, no no, no no. No. No no no. Shovel participation trophies are plentiful. All that money that would have been wasted on sensible human transit solutions for a large-scale urban center with ever-expanding bedroom burb burtings, highway and municipal road construction upkeep and repair, systems to meet a growing population in a limited land space, that was instead brilliantly diverted to creating yet more bicycle lanes that utterly destroyed the downtown core in the most environmentally friendly way possible? All of that served to: optimize participation trophy distribution and to strategize holistic solution partnerships towards benchmarking impactful socially equitable optics. Right? Participation trophies are as ubiquitous as they are mandatory. It's impossible not to win! Well, unless you are a White male, in which case you are the devil incarnate.

Reside in senseless terror British Columbia long enough and cartooning such feminist boilerplate marx-speak is as easy as a groupthink pie chart. Even mocking it sounds like authentic lunacy. And when a parody is indiscernible from a reality? That reality has successfully killed itself. And usually everyone around it; ill-conceived social engineering's myopically inevitable mutual assured destruction.
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I meant to hit on the participation trophies. Horrible idea. Sure, the kids love getting trophies, but it is detrimental in the end. Earning a trophy by winning a league teaches reward for hard work and success. This just breeds a sense of entitlement. I showed up for the test, why didn't I get an A?

The other issue is the overly structured lives of kids. Part of this is due to both parents working. When I was a kid, we ran out of the house in the morning or after school, and our parents had no idea where we were or what we were doing. We organized our own games, implemented our own rules, and resolved our own disputes. If we didn't have enough kids to play a full game, we invented mini-games that actually ended up being great practice drills. Now, kids go from school to after-care and have adult supervision and structure at all times. They don't play pickup games nearly as much, but everything is a structured league with coaches and adults to make rules and officiate. I think a lot of important life skills are sacrificed in this system.
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It snowed in Cairo. It's the first time it's snowed there in 112 years.

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Sabo wrote:It snowed in Cairo. It's the first time it's snowed there in 112 years.

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Wow. Imagine how bad Egyptians must be driving in snow.
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The Sybian wrote:I meant to hit on the participation trophies. Horrible idea. Sure, the kids love getting trophies, but it is detrimental in the end. Earning a trophy by winning a league teaches reward for hard work and success. This just breeds a sense of entitlement. I showed up for the test, why didn't I get an A?

The other issue is the overly structured lives of kids. Part of this is due to both parents working. When I was a kid, we ran out of the house in the morning or after school, and our parents had no idea where we were or what we were doing. We organized our own games, implemented our own rules, and resolved our own disputes. If we didn't have enough kids to play a full game, we invented mini-games that actually ended up being great practice drills. Now, kids go from school to after-care and have adult supervision and structure at all times. They don't play pickup games nearly as much, but everything is a structured league with coaches and adults to make rules and officiate. I think a lot of important life skills are sacrificed in this system.
Agree all around. The first few years of soccer, my kids loved getting their everyone-gets-a-trophy trophy. That wore off after a couple of seasons because the trophies no longer had any value. My oldest son's team has gone three straight undefeated seasons, but we haven't done trophies and nobody seems to care.
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Six inches of snow on the way. HAtches are battened down and the fridge is full of stouts.
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The Sybian wrote:I meant to hit on the participation trophies. Horrible idea. Sure, the kids love getting trophies, but it is detrimental in the end. Earning a trophy by winning a league teaches reward for hard work and success. This just breeds a sense of entitlement. I showed up for the test, why didn't I get an A?

The other issue is the overly structured lives of kids. Part of this is due to both parents working. When I was a kid, we ran out of the house in the morning or after school, and our parents had no idea where we were or what we were doing. We organized our own games, implemented our own rules, and resolved our own disputes. If we didn't have enough kids to play a full game, we invented mini-games that actually ended up being great practice drills. Now, kids go from school to after-care and have adult supervision and structure at all times. They don't play pickup games nearly as much, but everything is a structured league with coaches and adults to make rules and officiate. I think a lot of important life skills are sacrificed in this system.
both parents working is an issue but I think more of an issue is that in previous generations, men didn't do shit around the house(and were proud of it). My dad did nothing and my grandfather did less. Kids? that's the wife's responsibility, The house? That's the wife's responsibility. Drive the kid to hockey at 6am? what fuck you. go play outside. The wife obviously can't handle everything so just let the kids go outside.

Now I see the guys at work, they micromanage everything. Take the kids to daycare, call the daycare to make sure everything's ok and then drive the kids to sports events that they may or may not coach. The other day going home on the bus it was really slow on the icy roads and I heard a guy call his wife 4 times in 10 minutes to let her know exactly where he was. My dad didn't have come home from work and gone to the pub until traffic subsided. He would call home once just to let my mom know he was working overtime (at the pub). He couldn't have bothered with me, I could have been buried on a snowbank after taking a bodycheck in pond hockey.. who cares?

so you dads out there, stop giving a fuck!
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The Sybian wrote:
Sabo wrote:It snowed in Cairo. It's the first time it's snowed there in 112 years.

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Wow. Imagine how bad Egyptians must be driving in snow.

I have some first hand knowledge at how bad Egyptians are at driving (gf's parents are from there). And her dad makes no bones about it - he says they drive like crazy in Egypt so you have to do the same to get by. They want to move the car somewhere, they just do it.

So it's probably a good thing that there are no cars on that road.
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Snow, eh.
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