What the fuck is wrong with people (thread)

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What the fuck is wrong with people (thread)

Post by rass » Thu Apr 11, 2013 6:00 pm

This is what I get for looking at the paper during dinner (the kids wanted me to read the comics).
Hartsfield tells detectives as soon as he hit the girl, she threw up macaroni and mashed bananas and then crawled away in tears to lie down but appeared fine, waking up at one point when his mother came home and waving at her.

But a few hours later when he went to change her diaper he found her cold and not breathing.

A medical examiner would determine the girl died of blunt force trauma. Her liver was ruptured by the blows.

Hartsfield tells detectives he has some anger issues but that he had never struck his daughter before.

"It wasn't four times, eight times, I didn't put her in a headlock, it was two times. I said 'Go lay down' and she crawled away.'"


And there this one across the fold:
For a two-year period starting in January 2011 the man raped his stepdaughter, who was between 10 and 12 years old at the time, the criminal reports said.

The man, whose name is being withheld to protect the identity of the girl, appeared in Central Judicial Processing court in Jersey City yesterday afternoon via videolink from Hudson County jail in Kearny.

The man was surprised when he was told bail had been set at $250,000 prior to his hearing by Hudson County Superior Court Judge Paul DePascale.

“Is it really $250,000?” the man asked the CJP judge incredulously. When the judge said yes, the man uttered, “Oh s , so I gotta sit in here? I didn’t even do anything.”
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Post by howard » Thu Apr 11, 2013 6:05 pm

I think this is going to be a long thread
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Post by Steve of phpBB » Thu Apr 11, 2013 6:20 pm

rass wrote:This is what I get for looking at the paper during dinner (the kids wanted me to read the comics).
Hartsfield tells detectives as soon as he hit the girl, she threw up macaroni and mashed bananas and then crawled away in tears to lie down but appeared fine, waking up at one point when his mother came home and waving at her.

But a few hours later when he went to change her diaper he found her cold and not breathing.

A medical examiner would determine the girl died of blunt force trauma. Her liver was ruptured by the blows.

Hartsfield tells detectives he has some anger issues but that he had never struck his daughter before.

"It wasn't four times, eight times, I didn't put her in a headlock, it was two times. I said 'Go lay down' and she crawled away.'"
I'm curious, Rass. (And feel like a schmuck for not already knowing this offhand.) Do you have kids?
And his one problem is he didn’t go to Russia that night because he had extracurricular activities, and they froze to death.

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Post by Johnny Hotcakes » Thu Apr 11, 2013 6:45 pm

Steve of phpBB wrote:
rass wrote:This is what I get for looking at the paper during dinner (the kids wanted me to read the comics).
Hartsfield tells detectives as soon as he hit the girl, she threw up macaroni and mashed bananas and then crawled away in tears to lie down but appeared fine, waking up at one point when his mother came home and waving at her.

But a few hours later when he went to change her diaper he found her cold and not breathing.

A medical examiner would determine the girl died of blunt force trauma. Her liver was ruptured by the blows.

Hartsfield tells detectives he has some anger issues but that he had never struck his daughter before.

"It wasn't four times, eight times, I didn't put her in a headlock, it was two times. I said 'Go lay down' and she crawled away.'"
I'm curious, Rass. (And feel like a schmuck for not already knowing this offhand.) Do you have kids?

Of course, Rass is the gentleman currently considering a vasectomy after a broken condom debacle that might result in another addition to his brood. He is highly virile. For now.
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Re: What the fuck is wrong with people (thread)

Post by rass » Thu Apr 11, 2013 7:07 pm

Johnny Hotcakes wrote:He is highly virile. For now.
Man I hope not.

And don't worry about it Steve. Everyone knows it takes a dense wall of text (preferably purple) to really get your attention.
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Re: What the fuck is wrong with people (thread)

Post by Steve of phpBB » Thu Apr 11, 2013 7:46 pm

rass wrote:
Johnny Hotcakes wrote:He is highly virile. For now.
Man I hope not.

And don't worry about it Steve. Everyone knows it takes a dense wall of text (preferably purple) to really get your attention.
Heh. Guilty as charged.

I ask because to me, after having my son, violence against a small child is probably the most understandable kinds of violence there is. Not excusable, but understandable.

A long pattern of physical abuse, that I could not understand. But totally losing it and smacking or shaking a kid you are responsible for who just ... won't ... stop ... crying? There, but for the grace of God, etc.
And his one problem is he didn’t go to Russia that night because he had extracurricular activities, and they froze to death.

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Post by rass » Thu Apr 11, 2013 8:26 pm

I understand you. I yell a lot more than I like, a lot of times before I even realize what I'm doing.

He left her on the floor for hours afterwards. Bad enough, but she was fucking dying, all by herself.
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Post by mister d » Thu Apr 11, 2013 9:13 pm

But if you somehow give the guy a weird "... but I get it", don't you wonder how he doesn't kill himself? Serious question.
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Post by rass » Thu Apr 11, 2013 9:21 pm

And he has a kid, too. Great.
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Post by mister d » Thu Apr 11, 2013 9:26 pm

Jesus Fucking Christ, rass, I just read the article. Quin is almost that age. He can't possibly be raped hard enough if he lets himself get to jail.
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Post by mister d » Thu Apr 11, 2013 9:27 pm

I might have to go wake her up and hug her and cry or something. That's a complete night ruiner. Like even if the kid didn't die that would be a devastating read.
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Post by Jerloma » Thu Apr 11, 2013 9:40 pm

Steve of phpBB wrote:
rass wrote:
Johnny Hotcakes wrote:He is highly virile. For now.
Man I hope not.

And don't worry about it Steve. Everyone knows it takes a dense wall of text (preferably purple) to really get your attention.
Heh. Guilty as charged.

I ask because to me, after having my son, violence against a small child is probably the most understandable kinds of violence there is. Not excusable, but understandable.

A long pattern of physical abuse, that I could not understand. But totally losing it and smacking or shaking a kid you are responsible for who just ... won't ... stop ... crying? There, but for the grace of God, etc.
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Post by bfj » Thu Apr 11, 2013 10:18 pm

Steve of phpBB wrote:
rass wrote:
Johnny Hotcakes wrote:He is highly virile. For now.
Man I hope not.

And don't worry about it Steve. Everyone knows it takes a dense wall of text (preferably purple) to really get your attention.
Heh. Guilty as charged.

I ask because to me, after having my son, violence against a small child is probably the most understandable kinds of violence there is. Not excusable, but understandable.

A long pattern of physical abuse, that I could not understand. But totally losing it and smacking or shaking a kid you are responsible for who just ... won't ... stop ... crying? There, but for the grace of God, etc.
He didn't smack or shake the kid, he punched her in the stomach hard enough to rupture her liver. He balled up his fist and punched her, like she was an adult, twice.
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Post by Steve of phpBB » Fri Apr 12, 2013 12:10 am

bfj wrote:He didn't smack or shake the kid, he punched her in the stomach hard enough to rupture her liver. He balled up his fist and punched her, like she was an adult, twice.
Yeah, okay. That's more than just "losing it." I give.
And his one problem is he didn’t go to Russia that night because he had extracurricular activities, and they froze to death.

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Post by BSF21 » Fri Apr 12, 2013 1:28 am

http://www.watoday.com.au/queensland/gi ... 2hp28.html

Oh it's gonna be a looooooong thread.
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Post by Square Rob » Fri Apr 12, 2013 5:25 am

rass wrote:
And he has a kid, too. Great.
Kids. But he wont be seeing them for a while.

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Post by howard » Fri Apr 12, 2013 10:01 pm

Seems like a rash of teenaged girls getting raped, the schoolboys not being investigated or charged, the girls being shamed and bullied online for being sluts or for telling, then the girls committing suicide.

Teach the children.
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Post by rass » Sat Apr 13, 2013 7:11 am

In the second case I linked to in my initial post, the victim's step-brother has now also been accused of raping her.
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One of the answers

Post by howard » Sat Jul 27, 2013 1:05 pm

Our discussion on what does and what does not constitute a psychopath promoted a lot of thought on my part regarding the topic. One problem is there is not a specific definition of the term, and the word means very different things to different people.

I think there are degrees of lack of conscience in people, that there is more of a gradient in this disorder than we recognize. (Bankers/politicians who generally behave with little conscience and do psychopathic things shielded from their conscience by complex defense mechanisms, would never ever do certain things, like personally murder someone standing in front of them, as an example). But that is just my non-professional opinion.

I found this ten-minute video interesting.

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howard wrote:Our discussion on what does and what does not constitute a psychopath promoted a lot of thought on my part regarding the topic. One problem is there is not a specific definition of the term, and the word means very different things to different people.
Read this book - it tries to answer the question in a way that is absolutely hilarious.

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Post by degenerasian » Mon Jul 29, 2013 9:52 am

i come into work today and a few blocks away there's a car in the courthouse!

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Post by ZMan » Mon Jul 29, 2013 11:05 am

Just for my own information...

Is this going to be the new swamp version of "Things slowly falling apart" thread, which generally concerned itself with unexplainable and random acts of violence?
(I'm thinking so considering it started off all father-daughter rapey)

Or is this for more for the shaking my head, what was that guy thinking moments? (like Mario Andretti over there driving into a building)
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Post by sancarlos » Mon Jul 29, 2013 1:29 pm

Hard to believe this stuff goes on in our supposedly civilized country. Sad.
The FBI arrested 150 people across the United States for holding children against their will for prostitution, a three-day weekend sweep that officials on Monday called the largest-ever operation of its kind.

The suspects were arrested in 76 U.S. cities and are expected to face state and federal charges related to sex crimes and human trafficking, FBI and U.S. Justice Department officials said at a news conference... (more)
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Post by rass » Tue Aug 27, 2013 3:16 pm

ZMan wrote:Just for my own information...

Is this going to be the new swamp version of "Things slowly falling apart" thread, which generally concerned itself with unexplainable and random acts of violence?
(I'm thinking so considering it started off all father-daughter rapey)

Or is this for more for the shaking my head, what was that guy thinking moments? (like Mario Andretti over there driving into a building)
I'm not sure if I'm looking for big picture signs of the world coming apart. Just particularly odious examples of how sometimes people are just horrible. Like this bitch.
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Post by sancarlos » Tue Aug 27, 2013 3:34 pm

that's pretty horrible, rass...

This isn't in the same ballpark, but these guys get points for brass balls. Corruption and nepotism go on all over in politics, but usually, people have the sense to try to hide it or at least be a little bit ashamed. Not these guys. Entitled, corrupt pricks like this just piss me off.

Here's a chunk of the article, but I'd encourage you to read the whole thing...
SF Comical wrote:Despite facing repeated disciplinary actions, the nephew of San Francisco Airport Commission President Larry Mazzola is in line for a permanent $86,000-a-year safety job at the airport, with full civil service protections.

The nephew, Mark Kennedy, resigned from an earlier airport job for having porn on his work computer - and when he got another job at SFO, he attacked his ex-girlfriend's beau in an airport terminal and pleaded no contest to assault.

Kennedy, 49, was also reprimanded last year for allegedly using the airport's phones to make dozens of harassing calls to his ex.

Now airport insiders have circulated a detailed letter - a copy of which reached us - asking how SFO Director John Martin could consider rewarding Kennedy by turning his temporary status as a senior management assistant into a permanent position, potentially making it much more difficult to fire him for misconduct.

This despite scoring 70th out of 76 people taking an eligibility test, according to a posting on the city's website.

Martin - who called Mazzola to alert him that we were looking into the matter - declined to comment about the possible hiring of Kennedy or his troubled past. A spokesman said it was a personnel matter.

Mazzola, long a force in the local plumbers union and an Airport Commission member for 19 years, was not shy about commenting.

"It's bull- you are writing this column," he told us.

Mazzola conceded that his nephew probably wouldn't have gotten an airport job without his help.

"I don't deny that," he said. "I help lots of people get jobs, whether they are family or not, and I've been dong that for 47 years."

Landing lucrative jobs at the airport has long been a tradition in San Francisco for the politically connected. In fact, airport workers have a name for them: "flyovers," in reference to how the newbie seems to fly over everyone else in line for a job...[more]
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Post by howard » Tue Aug 27, 2013 7:25 pm

rass' link serves as an excuse for me to trot out this. The worst thing ever broadcast on television. By worst, of course I mean the best.

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Post by The Sybian » Tue Aug 27, 2013 9:41 pm

howard wrote:rass' link serves as an excuse for me to trot out this. The worst thing ever broadcast on television. By worst, of course I mean the best.
And to think, I was going to post how I hate this thread.
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Irony?

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Post by Scottie » Tue Sep 24, 2013 11:18 am

Not safe for work: " onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Story: Couple Spotted Apparently Having Sex While Driving On Ike

Yeah, she was driving on Ike alright.
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Post by The Sybian » Tue Sep 24, 2013 11:56 am

Scottie wrote:Not safe for work: " onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Story: Couple Spotted Apparently Having Sex While Driving On Ike

Yeah, she was driving on Ike alright.

They clearly didn't sign the Distracted Driver pledge.
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Post by rass » Tue Oct 08, 2013 6:03 am

An Illinois grandmother sledgehammered her 6 month old granddaughter (in the head, not that it matters) and then slit the baby's throat.
Oak Lawn Det. Mike Kaufmann said the 61-year-old Giedrojc expressed remorse for the child's death when questioned, and investigators have found no record of previous arrests or mental illness.
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I Think This Qualifies

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Suspected shoplifters in New York found with possible human fetus
Oct 17 (Reuters) - A Victoria's Secret employee who stopped two 17-year-old girls suspected of shoplifting on Thursday found a possible human fetus inside a bag they were carrying, New York City police said.

Both teens were placed in police custody after the discovery on Thursday afternoon, with one of them taken to Bellevue Hospital, New York City Police Detective Michael DeBonis said.

DeBonis declined to comment on local media reports that the girl taken to the hospital may have recently given birth.

"Two female Hispanics were inside the Victoria Secret in Herald Square. They were stopped by a Victoria Secret employee and believed to be shoplifting," DeBonis said.

The employee at the midtown Manhattan store made a gruesome discovery when checking a bag they were carrying for possible merchandise, police said.

"It looks like a possible human fetus," DeBonis said.

DeBonis said a police investigation was continuing and more would be known once the medical examiner's office had made its finding in the case. A representative of the medical examiner's office was not immediately available for comment.
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Post by Scottie » Thu Oct 17, 2013 7:49 pm

A panel of prestigious fashion designers were unable to determine, however, if it was an actual human fetus or, in fact, a part of their latest collection of haute couture lingerie.
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Post by The Sybian » Thu Oct 17, 2013 8:00 pm

Hey, I've shopped in that Victoria's Secret (not for me, so save the jokes). Actually, I guess it really was for me, when you think about it. After a still birth, sometimes a girl just needs to feel sexy.
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Post by howard » Thu Oct 17, 2013 8:21 pm

I can't bear to cue up Prom Night Dumpster Baby. Only because it hasn't been a month since the last posting, iirc.

ETA: Ok, six weeks. But it is upthread. That would practically be a duplicate post offense, (and I already did that today, and skated.)
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Post by rass » Fri Oct 18, 2013 5:55 am

WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE???
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Did you see that ludicrous display last night?

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