The Swamp

The Sybian wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2020 10:23 am

Pruitt wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2020 10:10 am Until we watched "The Last Dance," my daughter (21 years old) had never seen basketball played without a 3 point line.

As I was about to type this, I realized that some of you guys may not have seen one either...

I don't remember basketball without a 3 point line. According to Google, NBA added the 3 pointers in 1979, so I was 3. It said NCAA "universally implemented" 3 pointers in 1986, but I don't remember not having 3s. I was a Big East guy, not sure when they implemented it

The first NCAA final I watched live was the 1985 one (won't mention further details due to this week's SwampCrash) and I remember no 3 point line there. I never realized that it was up to the conferences to not only have them, but the distance. According to wiki, the ranges for the three-point line before being standardized NCAA-wide in 1986 ranged from 22 feet in the Big Sky to 17 feet, 9 inches in the ACC. Seventeen Nine!

Pruitt wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2020 10:10 am Until we watched "The Last Dance," my daughter (21 years old) had never seen basketball played without a 3 point line.

As I was about to type this, I realized that some of you guys may not have seen one either...

I'm old enough to remember when College b-ball didn't have a shot clock. Oh the joy of watching Phil Ford run the four corners for Dean Smith.

DaveInSeattle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:28 am

Pruitt wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2020 10:10 am Until we watched "The Last Dance," my daughter (21 years old) had never seen basketball played without a 3 point line.

As I was about to type this, I realized that some of you guys may not have seen one either...

I'm old enough to remember when College b-ball didn't have a shot clock. Oh the joy of watching Phil Ford run the four corners for Dean Smith.

I'm so old that the first March Madness pool I won featured Darrell "Dr. Dunkenstein" Griffith.

Pruitt wrote: ↑Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:36 am

DaveInSeattle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:28 am

Pruitt wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2020 10:10 am Until we watched "The Last Dance," my daughter (21 years old) had never seen basketball played without a 3 point line.

As I was about to type this, I realized that some of you guys may not have seen one either...

I'm old enough to remember when College b-ball didn't have a shot clock. Oh the joy of watching Phil Ford run the four corners for Dean Smith.

I'm so old that the first March Madness pool I won featured Darrell "Dr. Dunkenstein" Griffith.

I'm old enough to have collected Wheaties upc's and sent them in for a poster of him.

P.D.X. wrote: ↑Thu Apr 23, 2020 11:04 am

Pruitt wrote: ↑Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:36 am

DaveInSeattle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:28 am

Pruitt wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2020 10:10 am Until we watched "The Last Dance," my daughter (21 years old) had never seen basketball played without a 3 point line.

As I was about to type this, I realized that some of you guys may not have seen one either...

I'm old enough to remember when College b-ball didn't have a shot clock. Oh the joy of watching Phil Ford run the four corners for Dean Smith.

I'm so old that the first March Madness pool I won featured Darrell "Dr. Dunkenstein" Griffith.

I'm old enough to have collected Wheaties upc's and sent them in for a poster of him.

Funny thing. I worked with a guy who was Darrell Griffith's first cousin. When Griffith was in the NBA, he'd give his cousin tickets to any game he played in that he wanted to attend. (Griffith is only a year older than me.)

I'm so old that I'm the father of someone in his 20s. As of today.

I'm so old that the older woman I had a fling with back in the day is now a senior citizen.

Pruitt wrote: ↑Thu Apr 23, 2020 12:49 pm I'm so old that the older woman I had a fling with back in the day is now a senior citizen.

Holy shit, me too. Heh.

Wouldn't that be like me getting weirded out about having sex with an early 40s chick?

Pruitt wrote: ↑Thu Apr 23, 2020 12:49 pm I'm so old that the older woman I had a fling with back in the day is now a senior citizen.

Man 2015 seems so long ago.

Giff wrote: ↑Thu Apr 23, 2020 2:56 pm Wouldn't that be like me getting weirded out about having sex with an early 40s chick?

She was 36 at the time.

When I was in college I had sex with a woman who was 32. That’d put her in her 70s, now.

Sad to say, since doc Howard and HDO left, I always win these “I’m so old” things.

AB's joke was much better (as always).

Giff wrote: ↑Thu Apr 23, 2020 4:46 pm AB's joke was much better (as always).

Oddly, I didn't even notice that.

Hilarious!

Emma Watson just turned 30 .

Always knew he was old, but not this old.



Also loder and older. Ha.

Wow. That is shocking.

Yeah what the hell. So he was mid-40s already when I first knew who he was?

Here's what else I learned in the last 3 minutes...

Tabitha Soren is married to Michael Lewis (which I knew) and their daughter's name is Quinn (which I didn't and I hope it's for the reason it should be). Also, Daisy Fuentes is married to Richard Marx?!? Adam Curry is a 9/11 truther?!?

Dude was on tv in the 80s!

I knew about Daisy and Richard Marx!

Ryan wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 7:10 pm Yeah what the hell. So he was mid-40s already when I first knew who he was?

Here's what else I learned in the last 3 minutes...

Tabitha Soren is married to Michael Lewis (which I knew) and their daughter's name is Quinn (which I didn't and I hope it's for the reason it should be). Also, Daisy Fuentes is married to Richard Marx?!? Adam Curry is a 9/11 truther?!?

Adam Curry was just on Rogan. Extremely interesting interview. Guy is super intelligent and interesting. Didn't know he was a 9/11 Truther. He was into some weird conspiracy stuff, but he seemed like he'd be better than that.

The Sybian wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 7:17 pm

Ryan wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 7:10 pm Yeah what the hell. So he was mid-40s already when I first knew who he was?

Here's what else I learned in the last 3 minutes...

Tabitha Soren is married to Michael Lewis (which I knew) and their daughter's name is Quinn (which I didn't and I hope it's for the reason it should be). Also, Daisy Fuentes is married to Richard Marx?!? Adam Curry is a 9/11 truther?!?

Adam Curry was just on Rogan. Extremely interesting interview. Guy is super intelligent and interesting. Didn't know he was a 9/11 Truther. He was into some weird conspiracy stuff, but he seemed like he'd be better than that.

I used to listen to Adam Curry's podcast when podcasts were new (think ipods that did not have the flat touch wheel). Based on a quick google this was 2005 when he started Podshow (my company did podcasts back then too and used his Podsafe music for our bumpers) and was married to Patricia Paay. At some point I gave up on his daily podcasts that were very long and now realize he has been married 2 more times. Another way to look at this is I may have found the Swamp around the same time I listened to Adam Curry.


Liked Michael Lewis' writing and perspective. Then I met him in person and came across thinking he was just a prick. Especially when compared to Tom Wolfe and Buster Oleny who I also got to spend time with that weekend.

Kurt Loder is day older than Bob Seger (h/t @dadboner)

(also just noticed that Loder was born and raised at the NJ Shore in the resort town we usually retreat to for a week during the late summer)

Whole thread is murder and pre-hits home:

mister d wrote: ↑Fri May 22, 2020 8:56 pm Whole thread is murder and pre-hits home:

If it makes you feel better, I don't get any of the references or know any of the bands/albums they are mentioning. I do have one Deerhunter album because bapo! sent it to me, but I have no frame of reference for how old the album is.

You know what makes feel my age? I was a music hipster in my era, and now, many of the bands I loved are lost to obscurity, except for other old farts like me.

It’ll happen to you, too.

Sometimes I feel like the Greek chorus in a play around here, talking about the old days.

sancarlos wrote: ↑Sat May 23, 2020 11:12 am Sometimes I feel like the Greek chorus in a play around here, talking about the old days.

You use Abe for a reason.

sancarlos wrote: ↑Sat May 23, 2020 11:04 am You know what makes feel my age? I was a music hipster in my era, and now, many of the bands I loved are lost to obscurity, except for other old farts like me.

It’ll happen to you, too.

I know what you mean.

My last day thinking that I was a musical hipster came a few years ago when I heard a bunch of cool tunes from high school (the ones that the hosers who loved Foreigner, Styx etc. wouldn't have listened to) playing at the grocery store as I shopped.

duff wrote: ↑Sat May 23, 2020 11:43 am

sancarlos wrote: ↑Sat May 23, 2020 11:12 am Sometimes I feel like the Greek chorus in a play around here, talking about the old days.

You use Abe for a reason.

Ha ha, yeah. And, duff, you’re our little office’s Dwight Schrute.

One that hit me recently was Matthew Lillard. Learned that he's a big nerd via a YouTube video from Geek and Sundry. So these were my thoughts, in order:

Oh, cool. Matthew Lillard. I remember him from Hackers.

Wait ... When did Hackers come out? Ah, 1995. Damn, that's...25 years ago. He still looks pretty young.

Wait, how old was he in Hackers? ... 25!?

Holy shit, he's 50.

That's 13ish years away for me. Jesus, I'm getting fucking old.

sancarlos wrote: ↑Sat May 23, 2020 11:12 am Sometimes I feel like the Greek chorus in a play around here, talking about the old days.

How do you think we feel, listening to you rambling on about them?

The Sybian wrote: ↑Sat May 23, 2020 10:47 amIf it makes you feel better, I don't get any of the references or know any of the bands/albums they are mentioning. I do have one Deerhunter album because bapo! sent it to me, but I have no frame of reference for how old the album is.

Deerhunter: Halcyon Digest
Beach House: Teen Dream

Both still great albums (and I think picks of mine in the album draft), but sadly released in 2010.

DSafetyGuy wrote: ↑Sat May 23, 2020 1:58 pm

sancarlos wrote: ↑Sat May 23, 2020 11:12 am Sometimes I feel like the Greek chorus in a play around here, talking about the old days.

How do you think we feel, listening to you rambling on about them?

Ok ok, I’ll try to quit doing that. At least for awhile.

This one hit me because when I don’t recognize a band from that general genre/era I can almost always find a song I recognize and this case I can’t find that sleigh bells song. Shit.

“Rill Rill”.

rass wrote: ↑Sat May 23, 2020 4:13 pm This one hit me because when I don’t recognize a band from that general genre/era I can almost always find a song I recognize and this case I can’t find that sleigh bells song. Shit.

I looked up songs by several bands in that thread, looking at their most popular songs, and nothing sounded familiar. I have Microcastle, and really like it, I just don’t listen to music much, and when I do I don’t have patience to listen to new stuff. If I have iTunes on shuffle, I usually don’t have the patience to listen to a full song without skipping.

The grandparents listening to The Pixies is what got me. I mean, I get that the music is plenty old enough. But the idea that that's the music that someone thinks of as the music grandparents played in the car driving them to school just kills me.

sancarlos wrote: ↑Sat May 23, 2020 4:03 pm

DSafetyGuy wrote: ↑Sat May 23, 2020 1:58 pm

sancarlos wrote: ↑Sat May 23, 2020 11:12 am Sometimes I feel like the Greek chorus in a play around here, talking about the old days.

How do you think we feel, listening to you rambling on about them?

Ok ok, I’ll try to quit doing that. At least for awhile.

You will forget this promise by tomorrow anyways.

Shirley wrote: ↑Sat May 23, 2020 6:24 pm The grandparents listening to The Pixies is what got me. I mean, I get that the music is plenty old enough. But the idea that that's the music that someone thinks of as the music grandparents played in the car driving them to school just kills me.

I'm sure I posted it in this thread before, but a guy I played soccer with growing up became a grandfather about a year ago. 42 or 43 yo,