Trump Administration Meltdown Thread...

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Sat Sep 30, 2017 1:01 pm

Hello, new person.

P.D.X. · Post by **P.D.X.** » Sat Sep 30, 2017 1:13 pm

Like 50% of your job as prez during a natural disaster is to just not say anything stupid.

EnochRoot · Post by **EnochRoot** » Sat Sep 30, 2017 1:15 pm

P.D.X. wrote:Like 50% of your job as prez during a natural disaster is to just not say anything stupid.

And the other 50% is to only espouse encouragement and faith in Puerto Rico's ability overcome (as well as the mainland's unwavering support for it during these trying times).

He's garbage. Not politics. Just him. Pure, unadulterated garbage.

Johnny Carwash · Post by **Johnny Carwash** » Sat Sep 30, 2017 1:33 pm

This is the hardest I think I've ever seen Silver go in on his personal feelings on someone. Good.

https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/statu ... 4364734466

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Sat Sep 30, 2017 1:47 pm

Avram wrote:Our fearless leader one day after reminding us that PR is surrounded by "Big water. Ocean water" has now taken on the mayor of San Juan accusing her of being told to be nasty to him by the Democrats, and said that the Puerto Ricans aren't doing enough to help themselves.

Every week he sets a new low for himself

Welcome new person? Are you a new person? We don’t get many new around here anymore.

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Sat Sep 30, 2017 1:48 pm

Johnny Carwash wrote:This is the hardest I think I've ever seen Silver go in on his personal feelings on someone. Good.

https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/statu ... 4364734466

Yeah, seeing a lot of gloves come off now from more and more talking heads. Not sure if a tipping point has been reached.

Avram · Post by **Avram** » Sat Sep 30, 2017 1:51 pm

Johnnie wrote:Hello, new person.

hello to you too

Avram · Post by **Avram** » Sat Sep 30, 2017 1:55 pm

tennbengal wrote:
Avram wrote:Our fearless leader one day after reminding us that PR is surrounded by "Big water. Ocean water" has now taken on the mayor of San Juan accusing her of being told to be nasty to him by the Democrats, and said that the Puerto Ricans aren't doing enough to help themselves.

Every week he sets a new low for himself

Welcome new person? Are you a new person? We don’t get many new around here anymore.

I had been here years ago but lost my password, drifted away and haven't been around for awhile (FWIW)
but I love sports and need a forum where people can't stand the demented old racist in the White House
I like board wargames too, but that forum is shot through with Trumpists

my favorite sports are CFB,NFL,NHL and tennis, not necessarily in that order

I'm a Philadelphia fan (FWIW)

P.D.X. · Post by **P.D.X.** » Sat Sep 30, 2017 2:03 pm

We have a board game thread!

EnochRoot · Post by **EnochRoot** » Sat Sep 30, 2017 2:04 pm

So you lost the password for your former username, FWIW?

Johnny Carwash · Post by **Johnny Carwash** » Sat Sep 30, 2017 2:10 pm

Avram wrote:I like board wargames too, but that forum is shot through with Trumpists

Played a number of computer wargames and I get what you mean about that community; the average wargamer is a 60-year-old guy with a beard and clear-framed glasses who thinks Breitbart is "too liberal."

Welcome.

Avram · Post by **Avram** » Sat Sep 30, 2017 6:58 pm

Johnny Carwash wrote:
Avram wrote:I like board wargames too, but that forum is shot through with Trumpists

Played a number of computer wargames and I get what you mean about that community; the average wargamer is a 60-year-old guy with a beard and clear-framed glasses who thinks Breitbart is "too liberal."

Welcome.

I am 60+, no beard, glasses not clear framed, and I despise breitbart and all of those troglodyte shitheads.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Sat Sep 30, 2017 7:57 pm

tennbengal wrote:Yeah, seeing a lot of gloves come off now from more and more talking heads. Not sure if a tipping point has been reached.

Sooo, are you saying maybe this is ...

Rush2112 · Post by **Rush2112** » Sat Sep 30, 2017 9:01 pm

Avram wrote:
I am 60+, no beard, glasses not clear framed, and I despise breitbart and all of those troglodyte shitheads.

Sweet. Bringing the average age down! (and someone else to post in the old music thread.)

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Sat Sep 30, 2017 9:53 pm

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/sta ... 4440737792

Probably been said before,, but Trump is the sort of guy that people delay trips to the coffee room to avoid.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Sun Oct 01, 2017 12:18 am

Avram wrote:
tennbengal wrote:
Avram wrote:Our fearless leader one day after reminding us that PR is surrounded by "Big water. Ocean water" has now taken on the mayor of San Juan accusing her of being told to be nasty to him by the Democrats, and said that the Puerto Ricans aren't doing enough to help themselves.

Every week he sets a new low for himself

Welcome new person? Are you a new person? We don’t get many new around here anymore.

I had been here years ago but lost my password, drifted away and haven't been around for awhile (FWIW)
but I love sports and need a forum where people can't stand the demented old racist in the White House
I like board wargames too, but that forum is shot through with Trumpists

my favorite sports are CFB,NFL,NHL and tennis, not necessarily in that order

I'm a Philadelphia fan (FWIW)

So, are you going to keep us in suspense, or are you going to tell us your former user name? Rass will remember you, even if nobody else does.

Avram · Post by **Avram** » Sun Oct 01, 2017 7:34 am

sancarlos wrote:
Avram wrote:
tennbengal wrote:
Avram wrote:Our fearless leader one day after reminding us that PR is surrounded by "Big water. Ocean water" has now taken on the mayor of San Juan accusing her of being told to be nasty to him by the Democrats, and said that the Puerto Ricans aren't doing enough to help themselves.

Every week he sets a new low for himself

Welcome new person? Are you a new person? We don’t get many new around here anymore.

I had been here years ago but lost my password, drifted away and haven't been around for awhile (FWIW)
but I love sports and need a forum where people can't stand the demented old racist in the White House
I like board wargames too, but that forum is shot through with Trumpists

my favorite sports are CFB,NFL,NHL and tennis, not necessarily in that order

I'm a Philadelphia fan (FWIW)

So, are you going to keep us in suspense, or are you going to tell us your former user name? Rass will remember you, even if nobody else does.

I think i was Doc P

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Sun Oct 01, 2017 9:12 am

mister d wrote:
tennbengal wrote:Yeah, seeing a lot of gloves come off now from more and more talking heads. Not sure if a tipping point has been reached.

Sooo, are you saying maybe this is ...

Nope. The tipping point I am referencing is the talking head class stopping the search for him pivoting to “presidential”.

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Sun Oct 01, 2017 9:14 am

tennbengal wrote:
mister d wrote:
tennbengal wrote:Yeah, seeing a lot of gloves come off now from more and more talking heads. Not sure if a tipping point has been reached.

Sooo, are you saying maybe this is ...

Nope. The tipping point I am referencing is the talking head class stopping the search for him pivoting to “presidential”.

The president calling the mayor of a city ravaged by a hurricane a "politically motivated ingrate" really should be the tipping point.

Avram · Post by **Avram** » Sun Oct 01, 2017 10:16 am

Pruitt wrote:
tennbengal wrote:
mister d wrote:
tennbengal wrote:Yeah, seeing a lot of gloves come off now from more and more talking heads. Not sure if a tipping point has been reached.

Sooo, are you saying maybe this is ...

Nope. The tipping point I am referencing is the talking head class stopping the search for him pivoting to “presidential”.

The president calling the mayor of a city ravaged by a hurricane a "politically motivated ingrate" really should be the tipping point.

The tipping point should have been saying that there were fine people marching with neo-Nazis

Post by **brian** » Sun Oct 01, 2017 10:28 am

Or mocking McCain's time as a POW. Or mocking a disabled reporter. Or...

Rex · Post by **Rex** » Sun Oct 01, 2017 11:00 am

These guys are amazing at taking a defensible position (it really IS more difficult to provide effective disaster relief to Puerto Rico than to, say, Texas) and making it indefensible within a week.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Sun Oct 01, 2017 11:34 am

brian wrote:Or mocking McCain's time as a POW. Or mocking a disabled reporter. Or...

Or calling Mexicans rapists THE DAY HE ANNOUNCED HIS CANDIDACY!

Rush2112 · Post by **Rush2112** » Sun Oct 01, 2017 11:01 pm

Or dedicating a golf trophy to the hurricane victims.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Mon Oct 02, 2017 3:02 pm

Avram wrote:
sancarlos wrote:
Avram wrote:
tennbengal wrote:
Avram wrote:Our fearless leader one day after reminding us that PR is surrounded by "Big water. Ocean water" has now taken on the mayor of San Juan accusing her of being told to be nasty to him by the Democrats, and said that the Puerto Ricans aren't doing enough to help themselves.

Every week he sets a new low for himself

Welcome new person? Are you a new person? We don’t get many new around here anymore.

I had been here years ago but lost my password, drifted away and haven't been around for awhile (FWIW)
but I love sports and need a forum where people can't stand the demented old racist in the White House
I like board wargames too, but that forum is shot through with Trumpists

my favorite sports are CFB,NFL,NHL and tennis, not necessarily in that order

I'm a Philadelphia fan (FWIW)

So, are you going to keep us in suspense, or are you going to tell us your former user name? Rass will remember you, even if nobody else does.

I think i was Doc P

Dr. Chuck? If that's you, I seem to remember you being a soccer guy, no?

Post by **brian** » Mon Oct 02, 2017 3:07 pm

No, Dr. Chuck is a different guy. (He's a good follow on Twitter though - @shorterpearson if I'm not mistaken.

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Mon Oct 02, 2017 3:18 pm

Rex wrote:These guys are amazing at taking a defensible position (it really IS more difficult to provide effective disaster relief to Puerto Rico than to, say, Texas) and making it indefensible within a week.

As a dude who went to Haiti the Sunday after an 8.8 earthquake hit, this line of thinking is bullshit, btw.

4 of the 5 major seaports in Port au Prince couldn't handle incoming ships. The runway at Toussaint Louverture airport was short and dilapidated, but could land an aircraft every 15 minutes by a Combat Controller on dirtbike day and night.

We have what's called a Contingency Response Group in the Air Force. I worked for one in Germany, but the one tasked to deploy to Haiti was out of New Jersey. They were on ground within 48 hours. Spec Ops from Hurlburt Field, Florida were there the night of. We had operations running, I believe, within 12 hours.

And we had so many people on that island that we eventually had daily volunteer efforts to help clear the dead in the collapsed Hotel Montana. Bring vapo-rub for your upper lip.

That was just our end of it. The Navy, Marines, and Army had a huge presence as well. Along with the umpteen other nations involved. Operation Unified Response. Shit was crazy.

Post by **brian** » Mon Oct 02, 2017 4:50 pm

How is it that when Trump is reading a prepared speech after a tragedy like today he sounds like a robot? He has no empathy, no warmth, no anger, no anything. He only really gets fired up or shows any emotion when someone has personally hurt him.

Johnny Carwash · Post by **Johnny Carwash** » Mon Oct 02, 2017 4:55 pm

brian wrote:How is it that when Trump is reading a prepared speech after a tragedy like today he sounds like a robot? He has no empathy, no warmth, no anger, no anything. He only really gets fired up or shows any emotion when someone has personally hurt him.

I think you answered your own question.

Post by **brian** » Mon Oct 02, 2017 4:57 pm

No, I get it but many sociopaths and narcissists can at least fake human emotion. He has no ability to do so and it somehow rarely gets discussed.

EnochRoot · Post by **EnochRoot** » Mon Oct 02, 2017 5:16 pm

brian wrote:No, I get it but many sociopaths and narcissists can at least fake human emotion. He has no ability to do so and it somehow rarely gets discussed.

Josh Marshall over at Talking Points Memo observed that very same phenomena about Trump.

P.D.X. · Post by **P.D.X.** » Mon Oct 02, 2017 5:25 pm

Well he hasn't blamed fake news or the democrats or otherwise stuck his foot in his mouth (yet). So, win?

EnochRoot · Post by **EnochRoot** » Mon Oct 02, 2017 5:47 pm

P.D.X. wrote:Well he hasn't blamed fake news or the democrats or otherwise stuck his foot in his mouth (yet). So, win?

Nah.

He didn't call it terrorism. Instead, he rolled it up as 'pure evil'. Which will allow all the Christians to pray harder tonight.

P.D.X. · Post by **P.D.X.** » Mon Oct 02, 2017 5:53 pm

Yeah but the 'winger sites are going to call him 'presidential' just because he didn't go off the rails.

Post by **brian** » Mon Oct 02, 2017 5:57 pm

It's kind of amazing the bar is set so low that reading a statement without praising Nazis is somehow a win.

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Tue Oct 03, 2017 9:50 am

Meanwhile, the Justice League continues to grow...

Mueller Tasks an Adviser With Getting Ahead of Pre-Emptive Pardons

Jerloma · Post by **Jerloma** » Tue Oct 03, 2017 9:52 am

“Look, we have a tragedy,” the president told pool reporters as he boarded Marine One for the first leg of his trip to survey hurricane damage in Puerto Rico. “We’re gonna do... and what happened in Las Vegas is, in many ways, a miracle. The police department has done such an incredible job.”

Name one way.

Post by **brian** » Tue Oct 03, 2017 9:57 am

Jerloma wrote:
“Look, we have a tragedy,” the president told pool reporters as he boarded Marine One for the first leg of his trip to survey hurricane damage in Puerto Rico. “We’re gonna do... and what happened in Las Vegas is, in many ways, a miracle. The police department has done such an incredible job.”

Name one way.

The guy's an idiot so I'm not going to defend him but I know what he was trying to say. The first responders on the scene somehow got to this guy's room in 15 minutes literally under fire. Under the best of circumstances (i.e. when you're not being fired upon) it's hard to get to a specific hotel room in Las Vegas that quickly and they didn't know exactly what room he was in immediately or what would be waiting for them when they did get there. The doctors and nurses at Las Vegas' Level One trauma centers train for terrorist/multiple casualty events and they undoubtedly saved lives as well. This one guy with these weapons could have easily killed dozens more people if the response hadn't happened so quickly.

EnochRoot · Post by **EnochRoot** » Tue Oct 03, 2017 9:57 am

The GOP will insist that the Vegas shooter's gun arsenal is a right, but medical treatment for his 500+ survivors is merely a privilege.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Tue Oct 03, 2017 10:08 am

brian wrote:
Jerloma wrote:
“Look, we have a tragedy,” the president told pool reporters as he boarded Marine One for the first leg of his trip to survey hurricane damage in Puerto Rico. “We’re gonna do... and what happened in Las Vegas is, in many ways, a miracle. The police department has done such an incredible job.”

Name one way.

The guy's an idiot so I'm not going to defend him but I know what he was trying to say. The first responders on the scene somehow got to this guy's room in 15 minutes literally under fire. Under the best of circumstances (i.e. when you're not being fired upon) it's hard to get to a specific hotel room in Las Vegas that quickly and they didn't know exactly what room he was in immediately or what would be waiting for them when they did get there. The doctors and nurses at Las Vegas' Level One trauma centers train for terrorist/multiple casualty events and they undoubtedly saved lives as well. This one guy with these weapons could have easily killed dozens more people if the response hadn't happened so quickly.

Yeah, pretty awesome how quickly they were able to react. I'm sure there's a healthy contingent of police ont he strip at any given moment, but it was still beyond impressive. Was it here I read they were able to pinpoint the room because the smoke alarm went off?