2017-18 MLB Offseason Thread

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Re: 2017-18 MLB Offseason Thread

Post by EnochRoot » Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:48 pm

Agreeing to what terms? Admittedly I wasn't paying attention to Stanton (I know he signed that gigantic contract two years ago)..

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Post by brian » Sat Dec 09, 2017 3:22 pm

Seems like that franchise has been cursed by some trickster god to be blessed with a once in a generation type talent and then trade him away for magic beans every 10 years.
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Post by mister d » Sat Dec 09, 2017 3:42 pm

EnochRoot wrote:Agreeing to what terms? Admittedly I wasn't paying attention to Stanton (I know he signed that gigantic contract two years ago)..


They had terms worked out with S.F. and St. Louis and Stanton vetoed both.
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Post by sancarlos » Sat Dec 09, 2017 7:18 pm

mister d wrote:I think they figured they could force his hand by agreeing to terms ahead of the waiver and failed spectacularly.

I think even Donald Trump would recognize that as a bad negotiating strategy.
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Re: 2017-18 MLB Offseason Thread

Post by Johnnie » Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:22 pm

Death, taxes, and Bill Simmons whining.

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Post by sancarlos » Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:33 pm

He's not wrong.
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Post by mister d » Sun Dec 10, 2017 9:39 am

His literal words aren’t wrong. His implication clearly is. I love that a 45 year old dad’s weekend can be ruined by sports.
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Re: 2017-18 MLB Offseason Thread

Post by Giff » Mon Dec 11, 2017 10:48 am

Red Sox and Yankee fans are a joy.
Muh.

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Post by Brontoburglar » Mon Dec 11, 2017 2:03 pm

Giff wrote:Red Sox and Yankee fans are a joy.


they're far more entertaining when your team has won a world series more recently than either of them have
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Post by Ryan » Mon Dec 11, 2017 2:08 pm

(Small sample size)

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Post by Steve of phpBB » Mon Dec 11, 2017 2:47 pm

Brontoburglar wrote:
Giff wrote:Red Sox and Yankee fans are a joy.


they're far more entertaining when your team has won a world series more recently than either of them have


Yes. Yes they are.
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Re: 2017-18 MLB Offseason Thread

Post by mister d » Tue Dec 12, 2017 11:51 am

Cashman is very good.
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Post by Rex » Tue Dec 12, 2017 11:02 pm

L-Jam3 wrote:Ohtani to the Halos.


Maybe he was picking teams based on who has the best training staff?

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Post by mister d » Tue Dec 12, 2017 11:06 pm

Baltimore would void the deal.
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Re: 2017-18 MLB Offseason Thread

Post by Ryan » Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:39 pm

(Fun player) going to (loathesome team) for (synonym for zero) value

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Post by mister d » Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:42 pm

I don't get how a dozen teams don't beat that deal.
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Post by A_B » Wed Dec 13, 2017 3:11 pm

mister d wrote:I don't get how a dozen teams don't beat that deal.



Because they aren't waiting and doing any due diligence?
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Post by mister d » Wed Dec 13, 2017 3:15 pm

They're going to feel like idiots when they find out salaries are only paid in season.
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Post by A_B » Wed Dec 13, 2017 3:28 pm

mister d wrote:They're going to feel like idiots when they find out salaries are only paid in season.


It wouldn't surprise me if teams are offering "exploding" offers to take advantage of Jeety bird or whoever the acting GM is.
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Post by mister d » Wed Dec 13, 2017 3:51 pm

Oh yeah, I have no doubt that was the Yankees play with Stanton knowing the Marlins worst case scenario was holding.
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Post by EnochRoot » Wed Dec 13, 2017 4:01 pm

mister d wrote:Baltimore would void the deal.


Yeah. Of course, it's actually kinda moot since Duquette (who apparently has no more fucks to give) announced the other day the Orioles don't believe in the posting system. Samesies as a couple years ago when (Dexter Fowler) it was made known Angelos steadfastly refuses to deal in player options.

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Post by brian » Wed Dec 13, 2017 7:06 pm

Kinsler traded to Angels.

In a related story, the Tigers might be lucky to not lose 100 games next year, especially if they trade Fulmer as well.
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Post by mister d » Wed Dec 13, 2017 7:21 pm

Man, I just don’t love Fulmer and double don’t love the expected cost. Cole just makes so much sense. Or, if going real big, shoot for Archer.
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Post by EnochRoot » Wed Dec 13, 2017 8:15 pm

mister d wrote:Man, I just don’t love Fulmer and double don’t love the expected cost. Cole just makes so much sense. Or, if going real big, shoot for Archer.


Cole makes more sense considering the cost.

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Post by mister d » Wed Dec 13, 2017 8:35 pm

And the whole unstarted business aspect with him.
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Post by mister d » Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:29 am

Yankees getting pretty torn up in the Rule 5 for the 3rd straight year is one of those peak good/bad things.
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Post by EnochRoot » Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:54 am

Nester Cortes. That's a guy I figured would become an elastic arm guy like Ramiro Mendoza back in the day.

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Post by EnochRoot » Fri Dec 15, 2017 12:39 pm

This a fun way to spend 10 minutes and 50 seconds.


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Post by mister d » Fri Dec 15, 2017 2:01 pm

Phillies might now have the best DH in the NL.
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Post by Brontoburglar » Fri Dec 15, 2017 4:58 pm

mister d wrote:Phillies might now have the best DH in the NL.


this feels like the epitome of playing for the wild card. which given the state of the other non-Washington teams, seems feasible if they clean up in the division

but still, I wouldn't bank on that strategy. or pay for bullpen help like they are
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Post by A_B » Fri Dec 15, 2017 5:03 pm

Wtf do you do with Hoskins?
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Post by Brontoburglar » Fri Dec 15, 2017 7:12 pm

A_B wrote:Wtf do you do with Hoskins?


My Phillies fan co-worker says he's going to the OF, so there will probably be a trade of OF players for a pitcher soon.
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Post by A_B » Fri Dec 15, 2017 7:56 pm

Brontoburglar wrote:
A_B wrote:Wtf do you do with Hoskins?


My Phillies fan co-worker says he's going to the OF, so there will probably be a trade of OF players for a pitcher soon.



Hmm. Weird move. Burn maybe it works out
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Post by mister d » Fri Dec 15, 2017 11:07 pm

There’s like a 72 hour clock where they trade Hoskins for a NAME and it all makes sense. Otherwise, they needlessly devalued one of their few valuable players.
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I had a hard time telling if this was current or a report from 5 years ago.

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Post by A_B » Sat Dec 16, 2017 8:10 pm

I thought kemp was still on dodgers. You
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Post by Rex » Sat Dec 16, 2017 8:23 pm

I really can't tell which disabled list got the better of this deal.

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Post by DSafetyGuy » Sat Dec 16, 2017 9:32 pm

Rex wrote:I really can't tell which disabled list got the better of this deal.


I'd go with the Braves' car service due to proximity to James Andrews in Birmingham.
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Re: 2017-18 MLB Offseason Thread

Post by mister d » Sun Dec 17, 2017 10:25 am

Trades like this and the Headley deal are just proof the luxury tax is working!
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Re: 2017-18 MLB Offseason Thread

Post by Ryan » Wed Dec 20, 2017 12:50 pm

Longoria belongs in Cali but this trade sucks all around. I wish he was better.

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