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Re: 2017-18 MLB Offseason Thread
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:48 pm
by EnochRoot
Agreeing to what terms? Admittedly I wasn't paying attention to Stanton (I know he signed that gigantic contract two years ago)..
Re: 2017-18 MLB Offseason Thread
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 3:22 pm
by brian
Seems like that franchise has been cursed by some trickster god to be blessed with a once in a generation type talent and then trade him away for magic beans every 10 years.
Re: 2017-18 MLB Offseason Thread
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 3:42 pm
by mister d
EnochRoot wrote:Agreeing to what terms? Admittedly I wasn't paying attention to Stanton (I know he signed that gigantic contract two years ago)..
They had terms worked out with S.F. and St. Louis and Stanton vetoed both.
Re: 2017-18 MLB Offseason Thread
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 7:18 pm
by sancarlos
mister d wrote:I think they figured they could force his hand by agreeing to terms ahead of the waiver and failed spectacularly.
I think even Donald Trump would recognize that as a bad negotiating strategy.
Re: 2017-18 MLB Offseason Thread
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:22 pm
by Johnnie
Re: 2017-18 MLB Offseason Thread
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:33 pm
by sancarlos
He's not wrong.
Re: 2017-18 MLB Offseason Thread
Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 9:39 am
by mister d
His literal words aren’t wrong. His implication clearly is. I love that a 45 year old dad’s weekend can be ruined by sports.
Re: 2017-18 MLB Offseason Thread
Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2017 10:48 am
by Giff
Red Sox and Yankee fans are a joy.
Re: 2017-18 MLB Offseason Thread
Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2017 2:03 pm
by Brontoburglar
Giff wrote:Red Sox and Yankee fans are a joy.
they're far more entertaining when your team has won a world series more recently than either of them have
Re: 2017-18 MLB Offseason Thread
Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2017 2:08 pm
by Ryan
(Small sample size)
Re: 2017-18 MLB Offseason Thread
Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2017 2:47 pm
by Steve of phpBB
Brontoburglar wrote:Giff wrote:Red Sox and Yankee fans are a joy.
they're far more entertaining when your team has won a world series more recently than either of them have
Yes. Yes they are.
Re: 2017-18 MLB Offseason Thread
Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 11:51 am
by mister d
Cashman is very good.
Re: 2017-18 MLB Offseason Thread
Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 11:02 pm
by Rex
L-Jam3 wrote:Ohtani to the Halos.
Maybe he was picking teams based on who has the best training staff?
Re: 2017-18 MLB Offseason Thread
Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 11:06 pm
by mister d
Baltimore would void the deal.
Re: 2017-18 MLB Offseason Thread
Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:39 pm
by Ryan
(Fun player) going to (loathesome team) for (synonym for zero) value
Re: 2017-18 MLB Offseason Thread
Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:42 pm
by mister d
I don't get how a dozen teams don't beat that deal.
Re: 2017-18 MLB Offseason Thread
Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 3:11 pm
by A_B
mister d wrote:I don't get how a dozen teams don't beat that deal.
Because they aren't waiting and doing any due diligence?
Re: 2017-18 MLB Offseason Thread
Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 3:15 pm
by mister d
They're going to feel like idiots when they find out salaries are only paid in season.
Re: 2017-18 MLB Offseason Thread
Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 3:28 pm
by A_B
mister d wrote:They're going to feel like idiots when they find out salaries are only paid in season.
It wouldn't surprise me if teams are offering "exploding" offers to take advantage of Jeety bird or whoever the acting GM is.
Re: 2017-18 MLB Offseason Thread
Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 3:51 pm
by mister d
Oh yeah, I have no doubt that was the Yankees play with Stanton knowing the Marlins worst case scenario was holding.
Re: 2017-18 MLB Offseason Thread
Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 4:01 pm
by EnochRoot
mister d wrote:Baltimore would void the deal.
Yeah. Of course, it's actually kinda moot since Duquette (who apparently has no more fucks to give) announced the other day the Orioles don't believe in the posting system. Samesies as a couple years ago when (Dexter Fowler) it was made known Angelos steadfastly refuses to deal in player options.
Re: 2017-18 MLB Offseason Thread
Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 7:06 pm
by brian
Kinsler traded to Angels.
In a related story, the Tigers might be lucky to not lose 100 games next year, especially if they trade Fulmer as well.
Re: 2017-18 MLB Offseason Thread
Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 7:21 pm
by mister d
Man, I just don’t love Fulmer and double don’t love the expected cost. Cole just makes so much sense. Or, if going real big, shoot for Archer.
Re: 2017-18 MLB Offseason Thread
Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 8:15 pm
by EnochRoot
mister d wrote:Man, I just don’t love Fulmer and double don’t love the expected cost. Cole just makes so much sense. Or, if going real big, shoot for Archer.
Cole makes more sense considering the cost.
Re: 2017-18 MLB Offseason Thread
Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 8:35 pm
by mister d
And the whole unstarted business aspect with him.
Re: 2017-18 MLB Offseason Thread
Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:29 am
by mister d
Yankees getting pretty torn up in the Rule 5 for the 3rd straight year is one of those peak good/bad things.
Re: 2017-18 MLB Offseason Thread
Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:54 am
by EnochRoot
Nester Cortes. That's a guy I figured would become an elastic arm guy like Ramiro Mendoza back in the day.
Re: 2017-18 MLB Offseason Thread
Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 12:39 pm
by EnochRoot
This a fun way to spend 10 minutes and 50 seconds.
https://youtu.be/JncYB06Vk2c
Re: 2017-18 MLB Offseason Thread
Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 2:01 pm
by mister d
Phillies might now have the best DH in the NL.
Re: 2017-18 MLB Offseason Thread
Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 4:58 pm
by Brontoburglar
mister d wrote:Phillies might now have the best DH in the NL.
this feels like the epitome of playing for the wild card. which given the state of the other non-Washington teams, seems feasible if they clean up in the division
but still, I wouldn't bank on that strategy. or pay for bullpen help like they are
Re: 2017-18 MLB Offseason Thread
Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 5:03 pm
by A_B
Wtf do you do with Hoskins?
Re: 2017-18 MLB Offseason Thread
Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 7:12 pm
by Brontoburglar
A_B wrote:Wtf do you do with Hoskins?
My Phillies fan co-worker says he's going to the OF, so there will probably be a trade of OF players for a pitcher soon.
Re: 2017-18 MLB Offseason Thread
Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 7:56 pm
by A_B
Brontoburglar wrote:A_B wrote:Wtf do you do with Hoskins?
My Phillies fan co-worker says he's going to the OF, so there will probably be a trade of OF players for a pitcher soon.
Hmm. Weird move. Burn maybe it works out
Re: 2017-18 MLB Offseason Thread
Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 11:07 pm
by mister d
There’s like a 72 hour clock where they trade Hoskins for a NAME and it all makes sense. Otherwise, they needlessly devalued one of their few valuable players.
Re: 2017-18 MLB Offseason Thread
Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2017 5:41 pm
by Rex
https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/statu ... 0875676672I had a hard time telling if this was current or a report from 5 years ago.
Re: 2017-18 MLB Offseason Thread
Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2017 8:10 pm
by A_B
I thought kemp was still on dodgers. You
Re: 2017-18 MLB Offseason Thread
Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2017 8:23 pm
by Rex
I really can't tell which disabled list got the better of this deal.
Re: 2017-18 MLB Offseason Thread
Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2017 9:32 pm
by DSafetyGuy
Rex wrote:I really can't tell which disabled list got the better of this deal.
I'd go with the Braves' car service due to proximity to James Andrews in Birmingham.
Re: 2017-18 MLB Offseason Thread
Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2017 10:25 am
by mister d
Trades like this and the Headley deal are just proof the luxury tax is working!
Re: 2017-18 MLB Offseason Thread
Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2017 12:50 pm
by Ryan
Longoria belongs in Cali but this trade sucks all around. I wish he was better.