The Indictment Thread (Trump Admin Meltdown Thread Part II)

Post by **brian** » Fri Nov 10, 2017 12:50 pm

I love the idea of all of these scam artists and sleaze merchants like Stone and Manafort thinking that by getting Trump elected the gravy train will really start rolling in money only to immediately realize that all of their dirty laundry is going to be hung out to air and they will be destroyed publicly, politically and financially.

rass · Post by **rass** » Sat Nov 11, 2017 10:01 pm

I say this every so often, but it's crazy that he can still tweet out something that stuns the more reasonable among us (I'm including myself).

Tom 1860 · Post by **Tom 1860** » Sun Nov 12, 2017 6:12 am

Sorry if this has been done, but does Trump understand that he is not in the playground?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-41958553

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Sun Nov 12, 2017 7:52 am

Openly attacks US intelligence while saying he takes Putin at his word- joek- you still think no collusion?

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Sun Nov 12, 2017 1:37 pm

This was good:

https://youtu.be/AOGTLvxEKMM

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Mon Nov 13, 2017 8:17 am

https://twitter.com/davidfrum/status/930046767567134720

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Mon Nov 13, 2017 9:30 am

Tom 1860 wrote:Sorry if this has been done, but does Trump understand that he is not in the playground?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-41958553

My daughter read that tweet to me on Saturday night, and I'd been tailgating all day, so... Drizzle-drunk.

I couldn't stop laughing. It was partly due to the absurdity, but also... That's a pretty fucking funny bit of shade. Yes, for a teenager, but when you look at it through that filter...

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Mon Nov 13, 2017 10:06 am

rass · Post by **rass** » Mon Nov 13, 2017 10:19 am

Media needs to calm down about Trump making stupid faces while attempting a complicated handshake meant to symbolize international cooperation with a foreign leader with a brutal disregard for human rights. It's getting stupid, no wonder they are mistrusted.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Mon Nov 13, 2017 10:20 am

Guys, guys, don't mock Trump ...

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Mon Nov 13, 2017 10:46 am

How about an image of a cyst in a dog's ear that looks like Trump?

Steve of phpBB · Post by **Steve of phpBB** » Mon Nov 13, 2017 5:22 pm

It's been two weeks, I'm jonesing for another indictment.

In the meantime, holy shit - Donald Trump Jr was communicating with Wikileaks the month before the election?

Among other things, Wikileaks messaged him with a link where readers could search through the Podesta or DNC emails - and Trump Jr tweeted it out a couple days later. Damn.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/ar ... ks/545738/

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Mon Nov 13, 2017 7:12 pm

Steve of phpBB wrote:Among other things, Wikileaks messaged him with a link where readers could search through the Podesta or DNC emails - and Trump Jr tweeted it out a couple days later. Damn.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/ar ... ks/545738/

Has anyone, ever, gone from being a hero to a piece of garbage as quickly as Julian Assange. And I mean, an exalted hero.

5 years ago or so, he was the defender of free speech, the great white hope of democracy and freedom and transparency. Hell, Benedict Cumberbatch played him in the movie.

Rex · Post by **Rex** » Mon Nov 13, 2017 7:42 pm

Maybe I'm stupid or something, but why is Wikileaks sending DMs?

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Tue Nov 14, 2017 6:57 am

Not great for Glenn Greenwald. I am amused.

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Tue Nov 14, 2017 7:38 am

From the Guardian:

On election day itself, 8 November, WikiLeaks contacted Trump Jr to make the extraordinary suggestion that should his father lose the contest, as was then widely expected, he should refuse to concede the race and instead turn the spotlight on the media for “rigging” the result. Even more bizarrely, WikiLeaks wrote again in December, by which time Donald Trump Sr was the president-in-waiting, to ask for support in Assange’s legal battles against the governments of Sweden, the UK and Australia. “It would be real easy and helpful for your dad to suggest that Australia appoint Assange ambassador to DC.”

The Twitter message added: “They won’t do it but it will send the right signals to Australia, UK + Sweden to start following the law and stop bending it to ingratiate themselves with the Clintons.”

rass · Post by **rass** » Tue Nov 14, 2017 7:41 am

Just trying to generate a transformative discussion about corrupt media, corrupt PACs and primary corruption, guys.

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Tue Nov 14, 2017 9:03 am

https://twitter.com/mmurraypolitics/sta ... 2203200512

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Tue Nov 14, 2017 10:55 am

This makes me throw up in my mouth:

How the Roy Moore scandal could help President Trump fire Robert S. Mueller III

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Tue Nov 14, 2017 2:04 pm

Well, now, this is interesting...

http://thehill.com/policy/international ... e-election

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Tue Nov 14, 2017 2:07 pm

Nonlinear FC wrote:Well, now, this is interesting...

http://thehill.com/policy/international ... e-election

Already seen pushback on that which is pretty innocent - there were elections in Russia in 2016 and money sent to embassies around the world to help make sure Russian citizens abroad could vote etc.

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Tue Nov 14, 2017 7:42 pm

Awesome:

https://youtu.be/e-Qcufnu_jA

https://youtu.be/KsSxiSLcy7k

Gotta love a person who has such a poor memory when being questioned under oath.

DaveInSeattle · Post by **DaveInSeattle** » Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:04 pm

Louie Gohmert's chart....it explains everything!

https://twitter.com/chrisgeidner/status ... 6814130178

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Wed Nov 15, 2017 6:52 am

Johnnie wrote:Awesome:

Gotta love a person who has such a poor memory when being questioned under oath.

What a sack of shit - lying, buck passing and then reverting to moral outrage at the end. A true Trumpian.

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Wed Nov 15, 2017 9:56 am

Guess how your typical Fox News watcher reacted to this clip:

https://youtu.be/RnsAZzsdI1U

rass · Post by **rass** » Wed Nov 15, 2017 9:56 am

The President cuts and pastes his tweets about mass shootings, and can't even manage to do that correctly.

P.D.X. · Post by **P.D.X.** » Wed Nov 15, 2017 11:18 am

We're living in The Onion.

Rush2112 · Post by **Rush2112** » Wed Nov 15, 2017 12:03 pm

Rep. Luis Guitierrez wrote:"Before I begin, I think I have a solution that could allow the committee to move onto more important matters like gun control and immigration. Your side clearly wants an investigation of Hillary Clinton, and our side has been begging for months to hold hearings and start an investigation of the Trump administration and campaign’s improper ties to Mr. Putin and the Russian government. My solution would save the American taxpayers a lot of grief and a lot of money by eliminating the need for the investigation. I propose we simply go to the president and the former secretary of state and ask them both to resign."

Baloney · Post by **Baloney** » Thu Nov 16, 2017 5:14 pm

More trouble for Jared

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... trump-team

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Thu Nov 16, 2017 5:32 pm

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/pow ... 2a5a4923c0

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Thu Nov 16, 2017 10:51 pm

Freudian retweet?

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/931256844881940480

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Fri Nov 17, 2017 6:54 am

The Russia Investigation's Spectacular Accumulation of Lies

Column in the Post:

What does public life look like without the constraining internal force of character — without the firm ethical commitments often (though not exclusively) rooted in faith? It looks like a presidential campaign unable to determine right from wrong and loyalty from disloyalty. It looks like an administration engaged in a daily assault on truth and convinced that might makes right. It looks like the residual scum left from retreating political principle — the worship of money, power and self-promoted fame. The Trumpian trinity.

Joe K · Post by **Joe K** » Fri Nov 17, 2017 8:33 am

Pruitt wrote:The Russia Investigation's Spectacular Accumulation of Lies

Column in the Post:

What does public life look like without the constraining internal force of character — without the firm ethical commitments often (though not exclusively) rooted in faith? It looks like a presidential campaign unable to determine right from wrong and loyalty from disloyalty. It looks like an administration engaged in a daily assault on truth and convinced that might makes right. It looks like the residual scum left from retreating political principle — the worship of money, power and self-promoted fame. The Trumpian trinity.

That's a good piece. But I think its author makes the common mistake of treating Trumpism as the cause, rather than result of, the ugliest features of right-wing politics in this country. For example, evangelical hypocrisy is supporting Moore is hardly new. I bet all those same people backed David Vitter. They also surely have backed countless other politicians who fought against equality, social justice and other supposed goals of organized religion. Even the Trump campaign's willingness to exploit hostile foreign entities to win an election isn't new (see: Nixon/Vietnam, Reagan/Iran). I think Trump's personal crudeness and ignorance are somewhat unique, at least at the Presidential level, but I'm not sure he is otherwise taking the American rightwing anywhere it wasn't already trying to go. Hopefully there are enough moderates who take note of, and are appalled by, what the American right looks like with its mask off.

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Fri Nov 17, 2017 8:37 am

The coming tax thing is so bad on so many levels, that it simply raises my suspicions that we will never have another free and fair election.

EnochRoot · Post by **EnochRoot** » Fri Nov 17, 2017 8:46 am

tennbengal wrote:The coming tax thing is so bad on so many levels, that it simply raises my suspicions that we will never have another free and fair election.

You're going to see a billionaire or two get assassinated, and the celebration will be deafening. Once that happens, the leaders in Washington who have their ears to the ground will get to hang around.

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Fri Nov 17, 2017 8:49 am

I mean, you only vote for that if you know that it can never be overturned, right? Like, the act of voting on that should cement a wave - so why are they proceeding? Only makes sense if they know that the wave won't occur.

It literally harms everyone but the top 1%. I've never seen anything like it.

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Fri Nov 17, 2017 9:15 am

https://twitter.com/CharlesFinch/status ... 5973896192

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Fri Nov 17, 2017 9:47 am

tennbengal wrote:I mean, you only vote for that if you know that it can never be overturned, right? Like, the act of voting on that should cement a wave - so why are they proceeding? Only makes sense if they know that the wave won't occur.

Or you personally benefit and have had your donor base threaten you so why not.

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Fri Nov 17, 2017 9:51 am

tennbengal wrote:I mean, you only vote for that if you know that it can never be overturned, right? Like, the act of voting on that should cement a wave - so why are they proceeding? Only makes sense if they know that the wave won't occur.

It literally harms everyone but the top 1%. I've never seen anything like it.

Maybe they are seeing just how far they can push people before they break. Could this be the next stage in their brilliant strategy of getting people to support things that ultimately hurt them?

Do you get the sense that enough people are seeing through this tax bill that they won't get caught up in 2nd amendment and pro-life talk come next election?

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Fri Nov 17, 2017 10:18 am

mister d wrote:
tennbengal wrote:I mean, you only vote for that if you know that it can never be overturned, right? Like, the act of voting on that should cement a wave - so why are they proceeding? Only makes sense if they know that the wave won't occur.

Or you personally benefit and have had your donor base threaten you so why not.

I guess I am asking, the ordinary reaction would be a wave - and then new tax legislation to over-turn this abomination. But what if there's no wave because there isn't gonna be an election cycle that would yield such a wave? What if that really is all done now? That's what I keep coming back to. This so clearly only benefits billionairres or those close to billionairres that I can't comprehend how naked the money grab is.