Podcasts

TheHumanComa · Post by **TheHumanComa** » Sat Oct 25, 2014 8:14 pm

Not sure if I posted in here before or if anyone already recommended these ones (too lazy to look) but when I work alone, all I listen to are podcasts, my three favourite are Nerdist, Dinner Party Download, and Sklarbro Country.

DSafetyGuy · Post by **DSafetyGuy** » Sun Oct 26, 2014 12:33 pm

degenerasian wrote:
DSafetyGuy wrote:I agree with NonLinear.

That said, the way the podcast is structured is to have all these twists and turns, stopping at certain points when you lean one way, then the next episode taking you down a different path. You don't know who to believe, who to trust, why the police act the way they do, etc.
Have you guys heard Episode 5? The cell records and towers are really interesting.

I have and found it interesting, as well, mostly because I didn't have to listen to all the testimony that was cited. It seems that lawyers should but a little more energy in discrediting things jurors are likely to accept as absolutes.

The whole thing is fascinating because it is understandable if you change your opinion on Adnan's guilt during/after each episode.

Rush2112 · Post by **Rush2112** » Wed Dec 03, 2014 1:12 pm

I think it was Pruitt that recommended the BBC Radio 4 podcast. I highly recommend the episode on The Smiths.

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Wed Dec 03, 2014 3:31 pm

Rush2112 wrote:I think it was Pruitt that recommended the BBC Radio 4 podcast. I highly recommend the episode on The Smiths.

The Billy Preston podcast was also pretty good.

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Wed Dec 03, 2014 4:21 pm

degenerasian wrote:
DSafetyGuy wrote:I agree with NonLinear.

That said, the way the podcast is structured is to have all these twists and turns, stopping at certain points when you lean one way, then the next episode taking you down a different path. You don't know who to believe, who to trust, why the police act the way they do, etc.
Have you guys heard Episode 5? The cell records and towers are really interesting.

Just noting that we were on the front edge of what has turned into a bit of a phenomenon... There are now multiple podcasts about this podcast. Interestingly, the notoriety of the show seems to have brought out a bit of a backlash, particularly around dehumanizing/sensationalizing the victim, her family and others caught up in the story.

That said, I still find the show fascinating, both in how it is being told and in the actual content itself.

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Wed Dec 03, 2014 4:23 pm

degenerasian wrote:
DSafetyGuy wrote:I agree with NonLinear.

That said, the way the podcast is structured is to have all these twists and turns, stopping at certain points when you lean one way, then the next episode taking you down a different path. You don't know who to believe, who to trust, why the police act the way they do, etc.
Have you guys heard Episode 5? The cell records and towers are really interesting.

Oh, also interesting is that this episode was singled out by many as being an example of just how hard it is to tell an audio story with regards to this kind of detail... The cell towers and where they were trying to debunk the state's timeline were both screaming out for an infographic/map in motion type treatment.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Wed Dec 03, 2014 4:49 pm

Nonlinear FC wrote:
degenerasian wrote:
DSafetyGuy wrote:I agree with NonLinear.

That said, the way the podcast is structured is to have all these twists and turns, stopping at certain points when you lean one way, then the next episode taking you down a different path. You don't know who to believe, who to trust, why the police act the way they do, etc.
Have you guys heard Episode 5? The cell records and towers are really interesting.

Oh, also interesting is that this episode was singled out by many as being an example of just how hard it is to tell an audio story with regards to this kind of detail... The cell towers and where they were trying to debunk the state's timeline were both screaming out for an infographic/map in motion type treatment.

yeah it's hard to explain that stuff. I had to go back onto the website where they posted the charts.

Tomorrow's episode should be interesting. It's about how the defense lawyer fucked up the case.
The last episode Adnan expressed how frustrating it was for him to not testify in his own defense. We'll hear why that decision was made.

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Thu Dec 04, 2014 3:27 pm

Simmons with Don Van Natta on the Ray Rice ordeal was really good, I thought.

Now I'm listening to Joe Rogan interviewing Bill Burr. So good.

DSafetyGuy · Post by **DSafetyGuy** » Thu Dec 04, 2014 3:36 pm

Nice tease for the next episode of "Serial" at the end of today's new one.

Johnny Carwash · Post by **Johnny Carwash** » Thu Dec 04, 2014 4:06 pm

Thinking of starting up Serial based on the buzz, but want to keep myself as unspoiled as possible so I haven't read the comments above too closely.

Just the one question I have: is this a case that was definitively solved, with the episodes leading to a clear ending, or is it something that is going to wind up open-ended?

boxcar · Post by **boxcar** » Thu Dec 04, 2014 4:12 pm

without giving away too much, there is an appeal trial scheduled for early next year on the case

DaveInSeattle · Post by **DaveInSeattle** » Thu Dec 04, 2014 11:02 pm

Johnnie wrote: Now I'm listening to Joe Rogan interviewing Bill Burr. So good.

Love Bill Burt....HATE Joe Rogan...

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Fri Dec 05, 2014 8:26 am

Bill Burr was just on Comedians in cars getting coffee.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Fri Dec 05, 2014 8:30 am

govmentchedda wrote:Bill Burr was just on Comedians in cars getting coffee.

He has a new Netflix special out so he's doing the media rounds, i suppose.

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Mon Dec 08, 2014 4:21 pm

Johnny Carwash wrote:Thinking of starting up Serial based on the buzz, but want to keep myself as unspoiled as possible so I haven't read the comments above too closely.

Just the one question I have: is this a case that was definitively solved, with the episodes leading to a clear ending, or is it something that is going to wind up open-ended?

Sorry, I missed this question. No, and that's a big part of the anxiety/angst a lot of listeners have about the show and the format. What This American Life produces, typically, are stories (acts) that have some type of resolution. This show has a lot of the same formulation, but... They have no idea, really, where it's all headed.

Without throwing around a lot of spoilers, you can see signs of where it is *probably* going... But they are 10 episodes in, with 2, maybe 3 left and we really aren't all that close to any kind of "wrap up" episode.

And this has a ton of people ready to explode. I love the show, but I understand why a lot of people are frustrated with certain aspects of it. I think people are being overly critical of a show that is breaking some new ground, but that's coming from a guy that is as interested in HOW they are telling the story as much as I am interested in how it all turns out.

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Mon Dec 08, 2014 5:12 pm

Got to plug the "On The Media" podcast again. Clear eyed analysis of media coverage of events. Sardonic, but no cheap laughs here.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Fri Dec 12, 2014 11:01 am

Nonlinear FC wrote:
Johnny Carwash wrote:Thinking of starting up Serial based on the buzz, but want to keep myself as unspoiled as possible so I haven't read the comments above too closely.

Just the one question I have: is this a case that was definitively solved, with the episodes leading to a clear ending, or is it something that is going to wind up open-ended?

Sorry, I missed this question. No, and that's a big part of the anxiety/angst a lot of listeners have about the show and the format. What This American Life produces, typically, are stories (acts) that have some type of resolution. This show has a lot of the same formulation, but... They have no idea, really, where it's all headed.

Without throwing around a lot of spoilers, you can see signs of where it is *probably* going... But they are 10 episodes in, with 2, maybe 3 left and we really aren't all that close to any kind of "wrap up" episode.

And this has a ton of people ready to explode. I love the show, but I understand why a lot of people are frustrated with certain aspects of it. I think people are being overly critical of a show that is breaking some new ground, but that's coming from a guy that is as interested in HOW they are telling the story as much as I am interested in how it all turns out.

yeah it will have no resolution.

I think Sarah (the narrator/investigator) has been thrown off track. She's gone from thinking this was an interesting case, to thinking he's innocent to thinking he's a psychopath. I believe that at the beginning she thought she would find facts that would exonerate him but in fact it's even more complicated. Everything from muddled facts, to people calling her out of the blue to reddit. Perhaps there will an update in the last episode about if there will be a new appeal or not.

BSF21 · Post by **BSF21** » Fri Dec 12, 2014 11:09 am

All I want for Christmas is Hardcore History: Blueprint for Armageddon V.

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Fri Dec 12, 2014 11:27 am

BSF21 wrote:All I want for Christmas is Hardcore History: Blueprint for Armageddon V.

+1

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Fri Dec 12, 2014 11:44 am

degenerasian wrote:
Nonlinear FC wrote:
Johnny Carwash wrote:Thinking of starting up Serial based on the buzz, but want to keep myself as unspoiled as possible so I haven't read the comments above too closely.

Just the one question I have: is this a case that was definitively solved, with the episodes leading to a clear ending, or is it something that is going to wind up open-ended?

Sorry, I missed this question. No, and that's a big part of the anxiety/angst a lot of listeners have about the show and the format. What This American Life produces, typically, are stories (acts) that have some type of resolution. This show has a lot of the same formulation, but... They have no idea, really, where it's all headed.

Without throwing around a lot of spoilers, you can see signs of where it is *probably* going... But they are 10 episodes in, with 2, maybe 3 left and we really aren't all that close to any kind of "wrap up" episode.

And this has a ton of people ready to explode. I love the show, but I understand why a lot of people are frustrated with certain aspects of it. I think people are being overly critical of a show that is breaking some new ground, but that's coming from a guy that is as interested in HOW they are telling the story as much as I am interested in how it all turns out.
yeah it will have no resolution.

I think Sarah (the narrator/investigator) has been thrown off track. She's gone from thinking this was an interesting case, to thinking he's innocent to thinking he's a psychopath. I believe that at the beginning she thought she would find facts that would exonerate him but in fact it's even more complicated. Everything from muddled facts, to people calling her out of the blue to reddit. Perhaps there will an update in the last episode about if there will be a new appeal or not.

I think you may have misinterpreted that last episode. The fact that she trotted out that expert and he basically said, "eh, beats me" is somewhat of a response to all those folks pointing to him being a psychopath.

And that letter being how she ends the episode is pretty much a direct response / rebuttal / explanation as to why he isn't calling anyone out (Jay, his lawyer, Jenn, etc.) and why he's purposely trying to be be measured and to not come off as manipulating.

Let me back up a minute. She dove into this because a person close to Adnan explicitly told her that he was innocent. Obviously, she had to come at it with a healthy amount of skepticism, but you can clearly tell from the jump that this was why she took it on. Regardless of how things have played out, don't forget that the relatively objective Innocence Project folks very quickly surmised that on straight legal issues, the state's case was riddled with holes and they were very surprised it went to trial, let alone was enough to convict him.

I could write a ton on this, but I'll just say this: I've seen a number of explanations that point to Jay, very viable and credible explanations as to where Adnan was and what was going on with that cell phone. While we won't have a resolution next week, I'm pretty sure some plausible explanations and alternative scenarios are going to be lined up. And, again, we haven't heard a peep out of the Innocence Project folks... I'd be shocked if their future plans for this case don't play a primary role in the finale.

rass · Post by **rass** » Fri Dec 12, 2014 12:03 pm

I don't listen to Serial, but read up on the phenomenon enough to know that this was a poorly thought out tweet.

howard · Post by **howard** » Fri Dec 12, 2014 3:49 pm

govmentchedda wrote:
BSF21 wrote:All I want for Christmas is Hardcore History: Blueprint for Armageddon V.
+1

I'm not a big podcast guy. In part because I don't spend much commute time in the car. But this guy is great. I'm midway in part I. Anyone who quotes Nathan Bedford Forrest in the context of the eve of WW1 strategic planning gets my attention.

I'm hooked on this. Wonderful lecturer.

BSF21 · Post by **BSF21** » Fri Dec 12, 2014 3:52 pm

howard wrote:
govmentchedda wrote:
BSF21 wrote:All I want for Christmas is Hardcore History: Blueprint for Armageddon V.
+1
I'm not a big podcast guy. In part because I don't spend much commute time in the car. But this guy is great. I'm midway in part I. Anyone who quotes Nathan Bedford Forrest in the context of the eve of WW1 strategic planning gets my attention.

I'm hooked on this. Wonderful lecturer.

It is hands down the most thorough, well thought out, engaging, 4 hour long per part I've ever encountered. I listened to part...2? I think... on a drive from Indy to STL. I was legitimately upset when I had to stop and get gas midway through because I didn't want to interrupt the lecture. I would have done a hell of a lot better in school if my teachers had his gift.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Fri Dec 12, 2014 4:05 pm

I've been checking the last few days hoping it will come out soon.

DSafetyGuy · Post by **DSafetyGuy** » Fri Dec 12, 2014 7:24 pm

howard wrote:I'm not a big podcast guy.

Been meaning to recommend Greg Proops' "The Smartest Man in the World" podcast to you. I think you would really enjoy it.

howard · Post by **howard** » Fri Dec 12, 2014 7:30 pm

Thanks, I'll try it. Only have about 150 hours of Carlin to plow through (not counting his 'Common Sense' pods)

Rush2112 · Post by **Rush2112** » Sat Dec 13, 2014 12:36 am

BSF21 wrote:I would have done a hell of a lot better in school if my teachers had his gift.

I had a History prof like this as an undergrad. I ended up taking 6-7 of his courses, and shaping my concentration in History because of his gift.

You're pretty good if you're the Jackson guy at the University of Tennessee.

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Sat Dec 13, 2014 5:33 am

DSafetyGuy wrote:
howard wrote:I'm not a big podcast guy.
Been meaning to recommend Greg Proops' "The Smartest Man in the World" podcast to you. I think you would really enjoy it.

Major co-sign. When DSafe speaks, only truth comes out.

DSafetyGuy · Post by **DSafetyGuy** » Sat Dec 13, 2014 2:23 pm

Also, blow out your speakers to this "Mail Kimp" remix, Serial fans.

howard · Post by **howard** » Mon Dec 15, 2014 9:56 pm

Thanks for the Proops, tried it and liked it. I've always thought he was funny.

But I am loving the Dan Carlin. I plowed through WW I, and now I am checking daily for part V. I not trying to deconstruct the reasons why I enjoy him so much, but I stumbled on something in listening to #49, on the Spanish-American War. I disagree pretty strongly with one of his main themes of that period, that Americans suffered (or continues to suffer) a weird schizophrenic conflict between high ethical values and a longing for empire and/or glory in war. But, despite my actively listening to challenge his premise, I did not detect any shading or cherrypicking of material to make his point, much less presenting any inaccurate or grossly twisted information. (This is in contrast to seeing Doris Kerns Goodwin on TV this weekend, grossly mangling the history of Teddy Roosevelt to fit her point of view.)

Not only presenting the material straight, he included other schools of thought on the same point and on similar issues, comparing the New Left/Howard Zinn pov contrasted with Max Boot/Neocon approaches to imperialism. Honestly fair and balanced, plus he caused me to think about it from his side of the discussion.

Anyway, I'm plowing though a dense history of Russia, and was reminded how little I have learned about Genghis Khan and the Mongols. So, that's next, Wrath of the Khans, parts I to V.

This might get me into regular podcast listening. I tried Maron for a while, but found him too long-winded, then his TV show came along and I just watch that. But this could get me to change my habits.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Tue Dec 16, 2014 12:19 am

I listened to Proops from the start, episode 1. I didn't get any of the Irish jokes.

Wrath of the Khans was very good. That's more my area of expertise.

Do you have to pay for these older episodes now?

Podcasts are perfect for long car rides or flights. There are tonne of WWI podcasts from Britain, Australia and Canada on this the 100th anniversary.

howard · Post by **howard** » Tue Dec 16, 2014 7:43 am

Episodes 1-40 are pay per download, a buck each. 41-53 are free, including the Khans and the WW Is.

DSafetyGuy · Post by **DSafetyGuy** » Tue Dec 16, 2014 12:35 pm

Howard, I should have expanded on my recommendation as to why I wanted to recommend it to you. Between Proops spending his formative years in San Carlos (other Swamper alert, but you're a transplant, so...), his Giants fandom, and his political talk, I felt this was definitely in your wheelhouse.

It's good and I would generally recommend it, but I thought that it would be even better for you.

howard · Post by **howard** » Tue Dec 16, 2014 12:43 pm

I did not know those things. Cool.

BSF21 · Post by **BSF21** » Tue Dec 16, 2014 1:08 pm

Hijacking away from Carlin, does anyone have a go-to podcast app that is not the proprietary iOS one? That POS sucks!

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Tue Dec 16, 2014 1:33 pm

BSF21 wrote:Hijacking away from Carlin, does anyone have a go-to podcast app that is not the proprietary iOS one? That POS sucks!

http://thenextweb.com/apps/2014/02/19/9 ... -podcasts/

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Tue Dec 16, 2014 1:53 pm

Podbay

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Johnny Carwash · Post by **Johnny Carwash** » Tue Dec 16, 2014 9:40 pm

Literally just a few minutes in to the first episode of Serial right now. Quick question: is that plinking piano theme a constant thing? Because that might be a deal-breaker.

DSafetyGuy · Post by **DSafetyGuy** » Tue Dec 16, 2014 10:36 pm

Johnny Carwash wrote:Literally just a few minutes in to the first episode of Serial right now. Quick question: is that plinking piano theme a constant thing? Because that might be a deal-breaker.

Yes. A lot of the music is used throughout the series.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 11:36 am

Johnny Carwash wrote:Literally just a few minutes in to the first episode of Serial right now. Quick question: is that plinking piano theme a constant thing? Because that might be a deal-breaker.

It's always the intro and the ending. They don't use it as much after Episode 1. They use other music to set the mood of the show.