Swamp Album Draft: Current Pick - BFJ (329th) + SKIP J-LO (324/325th)

Post by **Shirley** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:48 pm

brian wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:10 pm
mister d wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2018 11:22 am Tupac was overrated. Dre flat out suuuuuuucks.
I agree with the former, though not the latter.

Agreed. The Chronic is fantastic. Mr. D's opinions on Dre and The Chronic are null and void.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:53 pm

If you had to remove either Dre or Snoop from the album, who would you remove?

Giff · Post by **Giff** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:57 pm

Just way too much homophobia and misogyny for me to comfortably listen to it today.

rass · Post by **rass** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:59 pm

Giff has gone from toke to woke.

Rush2112 · Post by **Rush2112** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:02 pm

A_B wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2018 10:08 am
BSF21 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2018 10:07 am *crosses Decemberists off*

I don't love The Crane Wife, but it's a fine album. I had The King is Dead and The Hazards of Love on my short list. Nice pick.
The King Is Dead was a really close second for me.

Have you heard any of the new album? Song I heard had this 80s vibe to it, was not to my liking. I LOVE the Crane Wife and Her Majesty.

For DMB I'd have gone Remember Two Things.

Rush2112 · Post by **Rush2112** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:05 pm

I believe that Pruitt is currently in LA doing the Jeopardy thing and he forwarded me a list of selections if he came up while he was in the middle of a 60+ game win streak.

I can make that selection now if it pleases the court.

Giff · Post by **Giff** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:05 pm

Rush2112 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:02 pm For DMB I'd have gone Remember Two Things.

I almost did that just to get a ruling on it.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:10 pm

Giff wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:57 pm Just way too much homophobia and misogyny for me to comfortably listen to it today.

I've had this talk with myself. I've always given my parents credit for letting me listen because I think it was formative, atleast in secondary ways, but I also know there's no way I'd let my kids listen present day.

Giff · Post by **Giff** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:27 pm

Rush2112 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:05 pm I believe that Pruitt is currently in LA doing the Jeopardy thing and he forwarded me a list of selections if he came up while he was in the middle of a 60+ game win streak.

I can make that selection now if it pleases the court.

DO IT

Rush2112 · Post by **Rush2112** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:43 pm

Mr. Paw Patrol selects

Post by **Shirley** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 2:25 pm

mister d wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:53 pm If you had to remove either Dre or Snoop from the album, who would you remove?

How could you remove Dre from The Chronic? I assume you mean only his rapping. I don't think most folks think of him as a rapper.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 2:33 pm

He gets singular billing for an album that became an all-timer because of Snoop's debut. It would be like "The Infamous ..." being attributed only to Havoc, except Havoc probably carried more weight.

duff · Post by **duff** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 3:51 pm

I thought about Mellow Gold, but I think Odelay is so much better. I also really enjoy One Foot In the Grave and Stereopathic Soulmanure.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 3:55 pm

That's a good one. If I had to predict one current, already-established artist completely blowing up to multiples of their current rep, it would be Beck.

rass · Post by **rass** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 4:00 pm

Yeah, was on the list.

L-Jam3 · Post by **L-Jam3** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 4:48 pm

How are soundtracks counted? Would all music need to be original and by the same artist to be available for this draft? I was considering much later down the list for the Saturday Night Fever soundtrack (because "How Deep Is Your Love" is truly one of my favorite songs, and it always reminds me of dancing with my newborn daughter), although not all songs on that album are performed/written by the Bee Gees, so I'm assuming it's unavailable.

Ryan · Post by **Ryan** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 4:50 pm

Well now I'm angry and we're into the 90s. So, too, are the following selections:

By a self-immolating hair over their debut and a narrow raised fist over Battle of Los Angeles...

My friend and I blasted this from a little CD player he had in his golf bag the one summer when I really got into golf. That qualified as rebellion for Ryan Guevara over here. I was all over Metallica for this spot, but this is a fine replacement. Either drop the hits like de la O or get the fuck out of my metapho (rical ca-bin).

And to give Canada something to cheer about today, please welcome the blurred-out vaginal stylings of...

My high school had just added a free "study" period to everyone's schedule the fall after this came out. Among the places you could go was this little mini-cafeteria and on the top shelf of a big bookcase in the corner was a mid-sized boom box that people could play their own music in. No matter whose turn it was to pick the music, Jagged Little Pill usually made it up to that shelf. It pwned the room and pwned it hard. And nobody ever got shot.

Alanis at pick #91? Now that's ironic. (It's not).

BSF21 · Post by **BSF21** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 4:52 pm

Fuck, Beck and RATM off my list...

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 4:53 pm

L-Jam3 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2018 4:48 pm How are soundtracks counted? Would all music need to be original and by the same artist to be available for this draft? I was considering much later down the list for the Saturday Night Fever soundtrack (because "How Deep Is Your Love" is truly one of my favorite songs, and it always reminds me of dancing with my newborn daughter), although not all songs on that album are performed/written by the Bee Gees, so I'm assuming it's unavailable.

If we are disallowing greatest hits compilations, I don't see why we'd allow soundtrack albums, which are also compilations.

P.D.X. · Post by **P.D.X.** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 4:56 pm

Contingency for single-artist soundtracks. IE, Harold & Maude, Life Aquatic, Once, etc...

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 4:57 pm

P.D.X. wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2018 4:56 pm Contingency for single-artist soundtracks. IE, Harold & Maude, Life Aquatic, Once, etc...

Good point.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 4:58 pm

"Purple Rain" is technically a soundtrack, right? Either way, single artist only.

L-Jam3 · Post by **L-Jam3** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:01 pm

mister d wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2018 4:58 pm "Purple Rain" is technically a soundtrack, right? Either way, single artist only.

Oh Jesus. I'm an idiot as I forgot that was literally my 2nd round pick. Carry on.

Rush2112 · Post by **Rush2112** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:03 pm

Ryan wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2018 4:50 pmEither drop the hits like de la O or get the fuck out of my metapho (rical ca-bin).

Ryan · Post by **Ryan** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:11 pm

That guy golfs too

Post by **Shirley** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:19 pm

I can't believe Rage fell so far in the draft. I would have guessed rounds 1 or 2 for them.

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 6:11 pm

P.D.X. wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2018 4:56 pm Contingency for single-artist soundtracks. IE, Harold & Maude, Life Aquatic, Once, etc...

Flash Gordon

(not really kidding)

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 6:13 pm

Shirley wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:19 pm I can't believe Rage fell so far in the draft. I would have guessed rounds 1 or 2 for them.

I'll chime in as another that had them on my board. Probably wasn't going with them next, but RD 7 definitely.

rass · Post by **rass** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 6:33 pm

Rage is a band that I enjoyed in the moment, but I always felt a little bad about it (at least until they seemed like they were having a little fun with the Renegades cover album). Like even if they were bullshitting themselves about what they were, they wouldn’t have appreciated my white, middle-class ass belting out “fuck you I won’t do what you tell me” as I drove across suburban NJ is my richer friends’ cars.

EnochRoot · Post by **EnochRoot** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 7:06 pm

rass wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2018 6:33 pm Rage is a band that I enjoyed in the moment, but I always felt a little bad about it (at least until they seemed like they were having a little fun with the Renegades cover album). Like even if they were bullshitting themselves about what they were, they wouldn’t have appreciated my white, middle-class ass belting out “fuck you I won’t do what you tell me” as I drove across suburban NJ is my richer friends’ cars.

That’s one of the most socially aware songs of all time.

Some of those who work forces, are the same that burn crosses.

rass · Post by **rass** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 7:15 pm

EnochRoot wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2018 7:06 pm
rass wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2018 6:33 pm Rage is a band that I enjoyed in the moment, but I always felt a little bad about it (at least until they seemed like they were having a little fun with the Renegades cover album). Like even if they were bullshitting themselves about what they were, they wouldn’t have appreciated my white, middle-class ass belting out “fuck you I won’t do what you tell me” as I drove across suburban NJ is my richer friends’ cars.
That’s one of the most socially aware songs of all time.

Some of those who work forces, are the same that burn crosses.

While I think that’s a bit hyperbolic, or at least worthy of some qualification, that’s my point exactly. I never felt they were comfortable with the kicker of that song as a party anthem, so at some point I wasn’t either. Which meant not listening to them as much.

Post by **Shirley** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 7:17 pm

Yeah, I've certainly felt that cognitive dissonance as an upper middle-class, non-politically-active white dude cranking their music. But, man they rock. I think it's literally impossible to listen to that song and not be shouting along with them by the end.

Ryan · Post by **Ryan** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 7:23 pm

Would Noam Chomsky object to his works being sold at Barnes & Noble? No, because that's where people buy their books. We're not interested in preaching to just the converted.

-T. Morello

EnochRoot · Post by **EnochRoot** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 7:25 pm

rass wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2018 7:15 pm
EnochRoot wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2018 7:06 pm
rass wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2018 6:33 pm Rage is a band that I enjoyed in the moment, but I always felt a little bad about it (at least until they seemed like they were having a little fun with the Renegades cover album). Like even if they were bullshitting themselves about what they were, they wouldn’t have appreciated my white, middle-class ass belting out “fuck you I won’t do what you tell me” as I drove across suburban NJ is my richer friends’ cars.
That’s one of the most socially aware songs of all time.

Some of those who work forces, are the same that burn crosses.
While I think that’s a bit hyperbolic, or at least worthy of some qualification, that’s my point exactly. I never felt they were comfortable with the kicker of that song as a party anthem, so at some point I wasn’t either. Which meant not listening to them as much.

From the perspective of the guy who slammed cheap beers, smoked weed and partied to it without any reflection? Sure. But I’d be amazed if De La Rocha or Morello had reservations as to that song’s impact. Maybe how it was adopted by #fratbro...But that song fucking crushes it. MOTHERFUCKERS! ARGH!

EnochRoot · Post by **EnochRoot** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 7:27 pm

Ryan wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2018 7:23 pm
Would Noam Chomsky object to his works being sold at Barnes & Noble? No, because that's where people buy their books. We're not interested in preaching to just the converted.
-T. Morello

Interesting

L-Jam3 · Post by **L-Jam3** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 7:29 pm

Now you do what they told you.

rass · Post by **rass** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 7:39 pm

Ryan wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2018 7:23 pm
Would Noam Chomsky object to his works being sold at Barnes & Noble? No, because that's where people buy their books. We're not interested in preaching to just the converted.
-T. Morello

Ok. I did say “I”, “I”, “I”, and maybe unfairly perceived a disdain that wasn’t there. I was young and dumb (but at least I never pranced around with my weiner hanging out, protest or not).

EnochRoot · Post by **EnochRoot** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 7:40 pm

L-Jam3 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2018 7:29 pm Now you do what they told you.

Let me finish your thought.

Killing in the name of
Some of those that work forces, are the same that burn crosses
Some of those that work forces, are the same that burn crosses
Some of those that work forces, are the same that burn crosses
Some of those that work forces, are the same that burn crosses
Huh!

Killing in the name of!
Killing in the name of

And now you do what they told ya
And now you do what they told ya
And now you do what they told ya
And now you do what they told ya
And now you do what they told ya
And now you do what they told ya
And now you do what they told ya
And now you do what they told ya
And now you do what they told ya
And now you do what they told ya
And now you do what they told ya
But now you do what they told ya
Well now you do what they told ya

Those who died are justified, for wearing the badge, they're the chosen whites
You justify those that died by wearing the badge, they're the chosen whites
Those who died are justified, for wearing the badge, they're the chosen whites
You justify those that died by wearing the badge, they're the chosen whites

Some of those that work forces, are the same that burn crosses
Some of those that work forces, are the same that burn crosses
Some of those that work forces, are the same that burn crosses
Some of those that work forces, are the same that burn crosses
Uggh!

Killing in the name of!
Killing in the name of

And now you do what they told ya
And now you do what they told ya
And now you do what they told ya
And now you do what they told ya
And now you do what they told ya, now you're under control (7 times)
And now you do what they told ya, now you're under control
And now you do what they told ya, now you're under control
And now you do what they told ya, now you're under control
And now you do what they told ya, now you're under control
And now you do what they told ya, now you're under control
And now you do what they told ya, now you're under control
And now you do what they told ya!

Those who died are justified, for wearing the badge, they're the chosen whites
You justify those that died by wearing the badge, they're the chosen whites
Those who died are justified, for wearing the badge, they're the chosen whites
You justify those that died by wearing the badge, they're the chosen whites
Come on!

Yeah! Come on!

Fuck you, I won't do what you tell me
Fuck you, I won't do what you tell me
Fuck you, I won't do what you tell me
Fuck you, I won't do what you tell me
Fuck you, I won't do what you tell me
Fuck you, I won't do what you tell me
Fuck you, I won't do what you tell me
Fuck you, I won't do what you tell me
Fuck you, I won't do what you tell me!
Fuck you, I won't do what you tell me!
Fuck you, I won't do what you tell me!
Fuck you, I won't do what you tell me!
Fuck you, I won't do what you tell me!
Fuck you, I won't do what you tell me!
Fuck you, I won't do what you tell me!
Fuck you, I won't do what you tell me!
Motherfucker!
Uggh!

EnochRoot · Post by **EnochRoot** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 7:41 pm

rass wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2018 7:39 pm
Ryan wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2018 7:23 pm
Would Noam Chomsky object to his works being sold at Barnes & Noble? No, because that's where people buy their books. We're not interested in preaching to just the converted.
-T. Morello
Ok. I did say “I”, “I”, “I”, and maybe unfairly perceived a disdain that wasn’t there. I was young and dumb (but at least I never pranced around with my weiner hanging out, protest or not).

I really do apologize for amping anything up. That song is amazing though. It blows War Pigs out of the water IMHO...

rass · Post by **rass** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 7:50 pm

No problem man.