2018 MLB Week 1

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Thu Jun 28, 2018 1:23 pm

Brontoburglar wrote: ↑Wed Jun 27, 2018 5:25 pm
mister d wrote: ↑Tue Jun 26, 2018 12:53 pm Bronto, are you out if this happens?
it's so gross

I only just now figured this out even after talking to Bronto about it yesterday

RSmith · Post by **RSmith** » Thu Jun 28, 2018 11:19 pm

Gunpowder wrote: ↑Thu Jun 28, 2018 1:21 pm It's like that stuff in the Mavericks office where the guy didn't get fired until he like jerked off on one of his coworkers. I mean people get offended by anything these days and then it's fired time!

Come now. This was fairly clearly a matter of an off-color comment. That is a bloody world apart from the Mavs situation, which was effectively somewhere between sexual harassment and sexual assault. A careless comment certainly does not imply a progression to that, and there is no basis for suggesting so.

TT2.0 · Post by **TT2.0** » Thu Jun 28, 2018 11:34 pm

ImaginaryMan wrote: ↑Thu Jun 28, 2018 11:19 pm
Gunpowder wrote: ↑Thu Jun 28, 2018 1:21 pm It's like that stuff in the Mavericks office where the guy didn't get fired until he like jerked off on one of his coworkers. I mean people get offended by anything these days and then it's fired time!
Come now. This was fairly clearly a matter of an off-color comment. That is a bloody world apart from the Mavs situation, which was effectively somewhere between sexual harassment and sexual assault. A careless comment certainly does not imply a progression to that, and there is no basis for suggesting so.

are you just immune to sarcasm and hyperbole or are you genuinely an idiot?

RSmith · Post by **RSmith** » Thu Jun 28, 2018 11:55 pm

TT2.0 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 28, 2018 11:34 pm
ImaginaryMan wrote: ↑Thu Jun 28, 2018 11:19 pm
Gunpowder wrote: ↑Thu Jun 28, 2018 1:21 pm It's like that stuff in the Mavericks office where the guy didn't get fired until he like jerked off on one of his coworkers. I mean people get offended by anything these days and then it's fired time!
Come now. This was fairly clearly a matter of an off-color comment. That is a bloody world apart from the Mavs situation, which was effectively somewhere between sexual harassment and sexual assault. A careless comment certainly does not imply a progression to that, and there is no basis for suggesting so.
are you just immune to sarcasm and hyperbole or are you genuinely an idiot?

I originally read this as sarcastically suggesting that the firing of Ussery was an overreaction. On re-reading, I now think Gunpowder is suggesting that if everyone reacted to every questionable comment, as I sort of suggested (though *that* was of course a slight hyperbole), then Ussery would have been gone long before that. Which, fair point.

And no, I'm not an idiot. But thanks for totally not being a prick about it or anything. ;-)

Post by **brian** » Fri Jun 29, 2018 12:32 pm

Called an African-American clubhouse attendant a "monkey".

Still want to defend this as political correctness gone amuck?

RSmith · Post by **RSmith** » Fri Jun 29, 2018 12:33 pm

brian wrote: ↑Fri Jun 29, 2018 12:32 pm Called an African-American clubhouse attendant a "monkey".

Still want to defend this as political correctness gone amuck?

No. I do not. I am a dummy. :)

Gunpowder · Post by **Gunpowder** » Fri Jun 29, 2018 1:03 pm

ImaginaryMan wrote: ↑Thu Jun 28, 2018 11:19 pm
Gunpowder wrote: ↑Thu Jun 28, 2018 1:21 pm It's like that stuff in the Mavericks office where the guy didn't get fired until he like jerked off on one of his coworkers. I mean people get offended by anything these days and then it's fired time!
Come now. This was fairly clearly a matter of an off-color comment. That is a bloody world apart from the Mavs situation, which was effectively somewhere between sexual harassment and sexual assault. A careless comment certainly does not imply a progression to that, and there is no basis for suggesting so.

Eventually it was, but at first it probably sounded like this. That's my point.

RSmith · Post by **RSmith** » Fri Jun 29, 2018 1:08 pm

Gunpowder wrote: ↑Fri Jun 29, 2018 1:03 pm
ImaginaryMan wrote: ↑Thu Jun 28, 2018 11:19 pm
Gunpowder wrote: ↑Thu Jun 28, 2018 1:21 pm It's like that stuff in the Mavericks office where the guy didn't get fired until he like jerked off on one of his coworkers. I mean people get offended by anything these days and then it's fired time!
Come now. This was fairly clearly a matter of an off-color comment. That is a bloody world apart from the Mavs situation, which was effectively somewhere between sexual harassment and sexual assault. A careless comment certainly does not imply a progression to that, and there is no basis for suggesting so.

Eventually it was, but at first it probably sounded like this. That's my point.

Right, I figured that later. In my defense, I originally wrote that after being up 20 straight hours... :)

TT2.0 · Post by **TT2.0** » Fri Jun 29, 2018 2:03 pm

ImaginaryMan wrote: ↑Thu Jun 28, 2018 11:55 pm
TT2.0 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 28, 2018 11:34 pm
ImaginaryMan wrote: ↑Thu Jun 28, 2018 11:19 pm
Gunpowder wrote: ↑Thu Jun 28, 2018 1:21 pm It's like that stuff in the Mavericks office where the guy didn't get fired until he like jerked off on one of his coworkers. I mean people get offended by anything these days and then it's fired time!
Come now. This was fairly clearly a matter of an off-color comment. That is a bloody world apart from the Mavs situation, which was effectively somewhere between sexual harassment and sexual assault. A careless comment certainly does not imply a progression to that, and there is no basis for suggesting so.
are you just immune to sarcasm and hyperbole or are you genuinely an idiot?
I originally read this as sarcastically suggesting that the firing of Ussery was an overreaction. On re-reading, I now think Gunpowder is suggesting that if everyone reacted to every questionable comment, as I sort of suggested (though *that* was of course a slight hyperbole), then Ussery would have been gone long before that. Which, fair point.

And no, I'm not an idiot. But thanks for totally not being a prick about it or anything. ;-)

i was a prick when i joined in 03...i cant just turn it off now

RSmith · Post by **RSmith** » Fri Jun 29, 2018 2:15 pm

TT2.0 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 29, 2018 2:03 pm
ImaginaryMan wrote: ↑Thu Jun 28, 2018 11:55 pm
TT2.0 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 28, 2018 11:34 pm
ImaginaryMan wrote: ↑Thu Jun 28, 2018 11:19 pm
Gunpowder wrote: ↑Thu Jun 28, 2018 1:21 pm It's like that stuff in the Mavericks office where the guy didn't get fired until he like jerked off on one of his coworkers. I mean people get offended by anything these days and then it's fired time!
Come now. This was fairly clearly a matter of an off-color comment. That is a bloody world apart from the Mavs situation, which was effectively somewhere between sexual harassment and sexual assault. A careless comment certainly does not imply a progression to that, and there is no basis for suggesting so.
are you just immune to sarcasm and hyperbole or are you genuinely an idiot?
I originally read this as sarcastically suggesting that the firing of Ussery was an overreaction. On re-reading, I now think Gunpowder is suggesting that if everyone reacted to every questionable comment, as I sort of suggested (though *that* was of course a slight hyperbole), then Ussery would have been gone long before that. Which, fair point.

And no, I'm not an idiot. But thanks for totally not being a prick about it or anything. ;-)
i was a prick when i joined in 03...i cant just turn it off now

Nor should you. The world needs a few good pricks. :)

DSafetyGuy · Post by **DSafetyGuy** » Fri Jun 29, 2018 3:35 pm

brian wrote: ↑Fri Jun 29, 2018 12:32 pm Called an African-American clubhouse attendant a "monkey".

Still want to defend this as political correctness gone amuck?

The "referred to a player by the nickname "Spider Monkey" because he makes faces while working out, but the player said he had never heard of that as his nickname part" seemed like such a genius cover move.

Bless You Boys (the very good SB Nation Tigers blog) had a post with around 330 comments by 10am Eastern this morning. For some reason, their site won't load now...

Moreta · Post by **Moreta** » Fri Jun 29, 2018 6:05 pm

The clubhouse attendant is the son of a high school friend of mine. I’m glad he was fired and there was no half assed suspension instead. That kid loves his job more than life and this broke him.

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Sat Jun 30, 2018 5:42 am

Moreta wrote: ↑Fri Jun 29, 2018 6:05 pm The clubhouse attendant is the son of a high school friend of mine. I’m glad he was fired and there was no half assed suspension instead. That kid loves his job more than life and this broke him.

I am so sorry to hear that, Moreta. Glad the Tigers immediately dealt with Bosio.

rass · Post by **rass** » Sat Jun 30, 2018 9:44 am

Poor kid

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Sat Jun 30, 2018 2:07 pm

Hope the veterans in the clubhouse make sure he knows it’s not his fault some asshole made him part of a story.

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Sun Jul 01, 2018 7:11 am

So...Michael Lorenzen is doing cool weird things for the Reds.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Sun Jul 01, 2018 8:29 am

tennbengal wrote: ↑Sun Jul 01, 2018 7:11 am So...Michael Lorenzen is doing cool weird things for the Reds.

Otani who!?!?

RSmith · Post by **RSmith** » Sun Jul 01, 2018 8:37 am

tennbengal wrote: ↑Sun Jul 01, 2018 7:11 am So...Michael Lorenzen is doing cool weird things for the Reds.

A 214 ERA+ and no HR allowed through 23 1/3 IP. Impressive. Though his FIP is 3.48, and the 3.9 BB/9 and 4.6 K/9 are fairly alarming, so there's probably more than a bit of smoke and mirrors there...

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Sun Jul 01, 2018 9:08 am

ImaginaryMan wrote: ↑Sun Jul 01, 2018 8:37 am
tennbengal wrote: ↑Sun Jul 01, 2018 7:11 am So...Michael Lorenzen is doing cool weird things for the Reds.
A 214 ERA+ and no HR allowed through 23 1/3 IP. Impressive. Though his FIP is 3.48, and the 3.9 BB/9 and 4.6 K/9 are fairly alarming, so there's probably more than a bit of smoke and mirrors there...

You’re missing the point. Huge dong hittin grand slam machine.

RSmith · Post by **RSmith** » Sun Jul 01, 2018 9:39 am

A_B wrote: ↑Sun Jul 01, 2018 9:08 am
ImaginaryMan wrote: ↑Sun Jul 01, 2018 8:37 am
tennbengal wrote: ↑Sun Jul 01, 2018 7:11 am So...Michael Lorenzen is doing cool weird things for the Reds.
A 214 ERA+ and no HR allowed through 23 1/3 IP. Impressive. Though his FIP is 3.48, and the 3.9 BB/9 and 4.6 K/9 are fairly alarming, so there's probably more than a bit of smoke and mirrors there...
You’re missing the point. Huge dong hittin grand slam machine.

Ah! Yes, I did miss that entirely. Silly me, looking at pitching stats for a pitcher. ;-)

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 4:55 am

He has three pinch hit home runs for the Reds this year. Actually, it's 3 pinch hit home runs in his last 4 plate appearances, broken up by a walk.

He was a CF in college, and raked there. He's a legit threat with the bat.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 7:07 am

tennbengal wrote: ↑Mon Jul 02, 2018 4:55 am He has three pinch hit home runs for the Reds this year. Actually, it's 3 pinch hit home runs in his last 4 plate appearances, broken up by a walk.

He was a CF in college, and raked there. He's a legit threat with the bat.

It's an added bonus to have basically a free pinch hitter on days you know he isn't going to pitch (or even to use him as a pitcher when the spot is coming up soon, I guess.)

RSmith · Post by **RSmith** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 8:19 am

tennbengal wrote: ↑Mon Jul 02, 2018 4:55 am He has three pinch hit home runs for the Reds this year. Actually, it's 3 pinch hit home runs in his last 4 plate appearances, broken up by a walk.

He was a CF in college, and raked there. He's a legit threat with the bat.

Did he pitch as well? Wonder how/why he got moved...

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 8:27 am

ImaginaryMan wrote: ↑Mon Jul 02, 2018 8:19 am
tennbengal wrote: ↑Mon Jul 02, 2018 4:55 am He has three pinch hit home runs for the Reds this year. Actually, it's 3 pinch hit home runs in his last 4 plate appearances, broken up by a walk.

He was a CF in college, and raked there. He's a legit threat with the bat.
Did he pitch as well? Wonder how/why he got moved...

He did.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 8:43 am

Wow, Micah Owings is walking through that door.

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 9:29 am

He’s a better Micah owings.

RSmith · Post by **RSmith** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 9:37 am

tennbengal wrote: ↑Mon Jul 02, 2018 9:29 am He’s a better Micah owings.

I will never understand why he wasn't converted to a position player at some point. He was a well below average pitcher (91 ERA+, 4.95 FIP), who showed pretty good potential as a hitter in admittedly limited PA (106 career OPS+)...

Post by **Sabo** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 10:05 am

ImaginaryMan wrote: ↑Mon Jul 02, 2018 9:37 am
tennbengal wrote: ↑Mon Jul 02, 2018 9:29 am He’s a better Micah owings.
I will never understand why he wasn't converted to a position player at some point. He was a well below average pitcher (91 ERA+, 4.95 FIP), who showed pretty good potential as a hitter in admittedly limited PA (106 career OPS+)...

IIRC, the Reds wanted him to switch to become a full-time OF but he wanted to pitch.

RSmith · Post by **RSmith** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 10:13 am

Sabo wrote: ↑Mon Jul 02, 2018 10:05 am
ImaginaryMan wrote: ↑Mon Jul 02, 2018 9:37 am
tennbengal wrote: ↑Mon Jul 02, 2018 9:29 am He’s a better Micah owings.
I will never understand why he wasn't converted to a position player at some point. He was a well below average pitcher (91 ERA+, 4.95 FIP), who showed pretty good potential as a hitter in admittedly limited PA (106 career OPS+)...
IIRC, the Reds wanted him to switch to become a full-time OF but he wanted to pitch.

That makes sense. May also explain why he is no longer in baseball... :)

By the way, just out of curiosity...is that avatar you?

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 11:41 am

Home runs in June:

Michael Lorenzen : 3

Bryce Harper: 2

RSmith · Post by **RSmith** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 11:49 am

tennbengal wrote: ↑Mon Jul 02, 2018 11:41 am Home runs in June:

Michael Lorenzen : 3

Bryce Harper: 2

He's still a well above-average hitter with an OBP 150 points above his BA, so it's far from time to panic, but Harper certainly isn't doing himself many favors in his walk year...

Post by **brian** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 12:00 pm

Short of getting injured or punching a kid, don't think it will matter as far as his FA deal. Elite players just don't come onto the FA market in their age 26 season.

RSmith · Post by **RSmith** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 12:06 pm

brian wrote: ↑Mon Jul 02, 2018 12:00 pm Short of getting injured or punching a kid, don't think it will matter as far as his FA deal. Elite players just don't come onto the FA market in their age 26 season.

I bet that 10 to 15 years ago, that .216 AVG would have. But I agree, front office types nowadays are much too smart to over-emphasize one year, or to care about AVG. :)

The IsoP and OBP are still quite fine, so I'm certainly not worried about his long-term performance.

Post by **brian** » Fri Jul 06, 2018 8:27 pm

Tigers/Rangers game finished so fast and sun sets late enough they had to wait 25 minutes after the end of the game for Friday night fireworks.

Post by **brian** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 5:48 pm

I for one support Sammy Sosa’s transformation into Eddie Munster.

RSmith · Post by **RSmith** » Wed Jul 11, 2018 12:08 pm

brian wrote: ↑Sat Jul 07, 2018 5:48 pm I for one support Sammy Sosa’s transformation into Eddie Munster.

I find it incredibly disturbing. He's beginning to resemble Michael Jackson on steroids...

BSF21 · Post by **BSF21** » Wed Jul 11, 2018 12:09 pm

brian wrote: ↑Sat Jul 07, 2018 5:48 pm I for one support Sammy Sosa’s transformation into Eddie Munster.

Good to know I wasn't the only one who drew that comparison.

Just say you did it man, no one cares anymore. "I never failed a test".

So did you rape that girl Sammy?
"Well I've never been arrested for it."

See how fucking ridiculous that sounds?

Giff · Post by **Giff** » Wed Jul 11, 2018 12:13 pm

Alex Bregman has two walk-offs this year where the balls probably traveled 10 feet combined off his bat.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Wed Jul 11, 2018 12:26 pm

Giff wrote: ↑Wed Jul 11, 2018 12:13 pm Alex Bregman has two walk-offs this year where the balls probably traveled 10 feet combined off his bat.

That one last night was odd.

Steve of phpBB · Post by **Steve of phpBB** » Wed Jul 11, 2018 5:03 pm

BSF21 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 11, 2018 12:09 pm
brian wrote: ↑Sat Jul 07, 2018 5:48 pm I for one support Sammy Sosa’s transformation into Eddie Munster.
Good to know I wasn't the only one who drew that comparison.

Just say you did it man, no one cares anymore. "I never failed a test".

So did you rape that girl Sammy?
"Well I've never been arrested for it."

See how fucking ridiculous that sounds?

"Convicted? Never convicted."