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bfj wrote: Sat Jul 21, 2018 1:22 pm
EnochRoot wrote: Fri Jul 20, 2018 3:59 pm
Giff wrote: Fri Jul 20, 2018 3:40 pm "Why is that obnoixous" is not baiting.
If she only asked the question once, of course it isn't. But she asked the same question again, which is where it became apparent she was baiting him into a response that could get him into trouble...She could've interrupted him and stated why they were free to celebrate one of their friends' pending demise into marriage but for whatever reason, she was more interested in his responses than to set the record straight.
She gave him the opportunity to say something less stupid. He passed and doubled down.
I don't see it that way at all. He made an incredible stupid observation, and she asked him to expand on it. She basically gave him the floor. Twice.
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EnochRoot wrote: Sat Jul 21, 2018 1:35 pm
bfj wrote: Sat Jul 21, 2018 1:22 pm
EnochRoot wrote: Fri Jul 20, 2018 3:59 pm
Giff wrote: Fri Jul 20, 2018 3:40 pm "Why is that obnoixous" is not baiting.
If she only asked the question once, of course it isn't. But she asked the same question again, which is where it became apparent she was baiting him into a response that could get him into trouble...She could've interrupted him and stated why they were free to celebrate one of their friends' pending demise into marriage but for whatever reason, she was more interested in his responses than to set the record straight.
She gave him the opportunity to say something less stupid. He passed and doubled down.
I don't see it that way at all. He made an incredible stupid observation, and she asked him to expand on it. She basically gave him the floor. Twice.
And he was too stupid to keep his mouth shut a second time. She tried to give him a life rope not once but twice. Where’s the producer in his ear telling him to shut his mouth? She did nothing wrong, he’s an idiot.
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bfj wrote: Sat Jul 21, 2018 1:50 pm
EnochRoot wrote: Sat Jul 21, 2018 1:35 pm
bfj wrote: Sat Jul 21, 2018 1:22 pm
EnochRoot wrote: Fri Jul 20, 2018 3:59 pm
Giff wrote: Fri Jul 20, 2018 3:40 pm "Why is that obnoixous" is not baiting.
If she only asked the question once, of course it isn't. But she asked the same question again, which is where it became apparent she was baiting him into a response that could get him into trouble...She could've interrupted him and stated why they were free to celebrate one of their friends' pending demise into marriage but for whatever reason, she was more interested in his responses than to set the record straight.
She gave him the opportunity to say something less stupid. He passed and doubled down.
I don't see it that way at all. He made an incredible stupid observation, and she asked him to expand on it. She basically gave him the floor. Twice.
And he was too stupid to keep his mouth shut a second time. She tried to give him a life rope not once but twice. Where’s the producer in his ear telling him to shut his mouth? She did nothing wrong, he’s an idiot.
The producer was probably soon in both their ears, which is why I said what she should’ve done earlier. Make light of his idiocy so he can laugh his way out of it.
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“Rather than directly tell him what he said was stupid on air, she tried to lead him into self-correction twice. When he didn’t either time, that makes her a dick too.”
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I’ll take that a step further and say that if/when he does address this, he should point out that Mendoza tried to steer him out and he whiffed.
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DSafetyGuy wrote: Sat Jul 21, 2018 10:54 am
mister d wrote: Sat Jul 21, 2018 10:20 am If she was direct it would have been labeled confrontational, if she played along it would have been enabling and if she ignored it on air it would have been failing to act. He created a no win.
No, she would have been called a bitch (or worse).
Not by me, you, or anyone whose opinion means anything. Terrible people say terrible things; that's not an argument.
DSafetyGuy wrote: Sat Jul 21, 2018 10:54 am And fuck his career. He's the shitty person.
Sooo...someone is a "shitty person" and deserves to lose his job, because he's annoyed by something that some other people think he shouldn't be? Do you *really* mean that?? That is not remotely rational. Intolerance of any difference of opinion is the worst kind of bigotry there is.
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mister d wrote: Sat Jul 21, 2018 5:43 pm “Rather than directly tell him what he said was stupid on air, she tried to lead him into self-correction twice. When he didn’t either time, that makes her a dick too.”
She asked him twice to expand on an ignorant thought. That's not leading. That's entrapping the ignorant. So um...Score?!
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mister d wrote: Sat Jul 21, 2018 5:46 pm I’ll take that a step further and say that if/when he does address this, he should point out that Mendoza tried to steer him out and he whiffed.
What's his baggage? Your point (and obviously others) would make more sense if he's burned his last bridge in the booth.
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RSmith wrote: Sat Jul 21, 2018 6:29 pm
DSafetyGuy wrote: Sat Jul 21, 2018 10:54 am And fuck his career. He's the shitty person.
Sooo...someone is a "shitty person" and deserves to lose his job, because he's annoyed by something that some other people think he shouldn't be? Do you *really* mean that?? That is not remotely rational. Intolerance of any difference of opinion is the worst kind of bigotry there is.
He's the shitty person in this case, not Mendoza.

I'm admittedly unfamiliar with ESPN's job expectations for play-by-play personnel, but ripping fans in attendance is probably not part of the job description, save for the rare exception like racists chants at a player or throwing garbage on the field. If he's incapable of doing a professional job (or lacks self-awareness to the point where he thinks this is acceptable), he shouldn't have the job.

He can dislike bachelorette parties at baseball games (or wherever) all he wants, but he probably should keep that opinion away from the microphone.
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This has been a helpful thread to figure out the misogynists , thanks.
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RSmith wrote: Sat Jul 21, 2018 6:29 pm Terrible people say terrible things;
You’ve already proven that once this week.
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EnochRoot wrote: Sat Jul 21, 2018 6:45 pm
mister d wrote: Sat Jul 21, 2018 5:43 pm “Rather than directly tell him what he said was stupid on air, she tried to lead him into self-correction twice. When he didn’t either time, that makes her a dick too.”
She asked him twice to expand on an ignorant thought. That's not leading. That's entrapping the ignorant. So um...Score?!
I didn’t take it like that at all. His only free out at that point was self-correction and she tried to walk him through the process rather than rush to confront.
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mister d wrote: Sun Jul 22, 2018 10:36 am
EnochRoot wrote: Sat Jul 21, 2018 6:45 pm
mister d wrote: Sat Jul 21, 2018 5:43 pm “Rather than directly tell him what he said was stupid on air, she tried to lead him into self-correction twice. When he didn’t either time, that makes her a dick too.”
She asked him twice to expand on an ignorant thought. That's not leading. That's entrapping the ignorant. So um...Score?!
I didn’t take it like that at all. His only free out at that point was self-correction and she tried to walk him through the process rather than rush to confront.
Fair enough. Still, she was affording him the rope. I just think the correct course was to respond to it with as inane a reply it deserved.

and LOL at AB thinking I'm a misogynist. I may as well have the happy wife mantra tattooed on my chest.
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But you don’t? Hmmm ...
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mister d wrote: Sun Jul 22, 2018 3:37 pm But you don’t? Hmmm ...
OK I laughed out loud at that.

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As someone who has witnessed numerous racial epithets from Green Bay fans visiting Detroit, you can knock me over with a feather after the reception Hader got in Milwaukee.
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Ugh.

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I think the context makes the lack of hustle more damning than that tweet would indicate. Two outs, bases loaded, ninth inning, down by one. Sanchez hits a grounder to the second baseman. Runner from first base beats the attempted force at second, but Sanchez is slow getting down the line, so the shortstop relays the throw to first to get him out and save the win. Obvs, if he'd been running hard all the way...
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I was really curious if YES was going to show the replay or just try to sit on it because you knew immediately how bad it was going to look. That was some Softball Mister D shit.
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sancarlos wrote: Tue Jul 24, 2018 12:10 am I think the context makes the lack of hustle more damning than that tweet would indicate. Two outs, bases loaded, ninth inning, down by one. Sanchez hits a grounder to the second baseman. Runner from first base beats the attempted force at second, but Sanchez is slow getting down the line, so the shortstop relays the throw to first to get him out and save the win. Obvs, if he'd been running hard all the way...
As someone who just watched without knowing the context, UMMMM YEAH.
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I’ll see your context and raise the following:

He also jogged after a passed ball he allowed in the 1st inning, allowing a runner (a first baseman) to score from 2nd base. Later in the game, he had a single. That was fielded off the wall in LF.

He’s petulant and moody. Basically, he’s the child that requires participation trophies.

Yeah. He’s my favorite Yankee.
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Wonder if we could get Yadier Molina for him straight up or maybe if we add Sheffield or Frazier?
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He also dropped a ball at home once.
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mister d wrote: Tue Jul 24, 2018 8:18 am Wonder if we could get Yadier Molina for him straight up or maybe if we add Sheffield or Frazier?
I mean, having three examples of a player not hustling in any specific game is bad enough, as it indicts the manager in his inexcusable, clubhouse-cancer-causing lack of effort...But what also gets me is how there’s now multiple instances of Severino questioning Sanchez’s acumen. Scouts are wondering if he gets crossed up so much because he simply forgets the pitch he called moments earlier.
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EnochRoot wrote: Tue Jul 24, 2018 8:26 amI mean, having three examples of a player not hustling in any specific game is bad enough, as it indicts the manager in his inexcusable, clubhouse-cancer-causing lack of effort...But what also gets me is how there’s now multiple instances of Severino questioning Sanchez’s acumen. Scouts are wondering if he gets crossed up so much because he simply forgets the pitch he called moments earlier.
So Sheffield and Frazier?
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mister d wrote: Tue Jul 24, 2018 8:43 am
EnochRoot wrote: Tue Jul 24, 2018 8:26 amI mean, having three examples of a player not hustling in any specific game is bad enough, as it indicts the manager in his inexcusable, clubhouse-cancer-causing lack of effort...But what also gets me is how there’s now multiple instances of Severino questioning Sanchez’s acumen. Scouts are wondering if he gets crossed up so much because he simply forgets the pitch he called moments earlier.
So Sheffield and Frazier?
No you don’t throw out the good with the bad. Should’ve given serious to consideration to flipping him for the two months of Machado though.
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Ha. Alright, dude.
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They're going to need Sanchez's youth when they have 4 games to make up on Boston and have to go 8-negative 4 to catch them
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What's Boston's magic number?
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Listened to WFAN for less than 5 minutes while driving around at lunch but still managed to hear a "Thurman Munson must be rolling over in his grave" take from a caller.
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They are saying he reaggrevated his groin injury and couldn't run.
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degenerasian wrote: Tue Jul 24, 2018 1:21 pm They are saying he reaggrevated his groin injury and couldn't run.
They are saying that to DL him back to the minors (he's out of options).
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So they're going to ship him out for 2+ weeks, including sitting for a week and a half on the wink-wink "DL" before a wink-wink "rehab assignment", as punishment?
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mister d wrote: Tue Jul 24, 2018 1:36 pm So they're going to ship him out for 2+ weeks, including sitting for a week and a half on the wink-wink "DL" before a wink-wink "rehab assignment", as punishment?
Where do you get 2+ weeks? The 10 Day DL is a thing now. I mean, wink-wink all you want, but it seems that had Sanchez actually hurt himself last night, he'd have said he felt a twinge in the post game. I'm also reasonable certain that had a catcher you know, aggravated a hamstring injury, he'd you know, not be able to resume catching after the injury occurred.

I see this as a way to get Sanchez down to the minors to work on the fact that, whenever he goes 1-5, his batting average goes up, and also remind him what the clubhouse thinks of dogging it.
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He can't play in the minors tomorrow on the DL, he'd have to sit 10 days then on a rehab assignment. That's how I get 2+ weeks. Wink-wink.
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I see both sides? Honestly, most Cashman trades I Iike to love off the bat and I see the downside here, but I also see massive upside if Britton cleans himself back up. If it goes as projected, it’s a high variance bullpen arm for a future bullpen arm (Tate) and guys who won’t ever really make it (check Carroll’s BB rate). Best case is Tate can start in Baltimore but I can’t see NY ever able to have the patience to let that happen.

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It’s a solid trade because they’re set to lose tangible talent in the Rule V draft this winter.
mister d wrote: Tue Jul 24, 2018 3:05 pm He can't play in the minors tomorrow on the DL, he'd have to sit 10 days then on a rehab assignment. That's how I get 2+ weeks. Wink-wink.
Of course he can’t. He’s being stashed while he “heals.” Even Boone acknowledged Sanchez’s lack of hustle throughout the game and his “Ow coach my leg!” weren’t mutually exclusive. This has been Sanchez’ M.O. for years. The Yankees would just prefer to tolerate it when he’s actually..you know..hitting.
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