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Joe K wrote: Sat Nov 24, 2018 2:24 pm
brian wrote: Sat Nov 24, 2018 1:24 pm Meyer is always gonna pull a rabbit out of his hat no matter how bad his team looks all season.
Their offense hasn’t looked bad at all though, which is why I really thought OSU would win this game. I like Harbaugh a lot, but his teams are always slogging it out on offense. At least Oklahoma won last night and they just need to beat Texas to spare us OSU in the playoff.
Let's assume Michigan loses. Then, do you think Oklahoma jumps Georgia? What if Georgia plays Alabama tight in the SEC title game?
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sancarlos wrote: Sat Nov 24, 2018 2:40 pm
Joe K wrote: Sat Nov 24, 2018 2:24 pm
brian wrote: Sat Nov 24, 2018 1:24 pm Meyer is always gonna pull a rabbit out of his hat no matter how bad his team looks all season.
Their offense hasn’t looked bad at all though, which is why I really thought OSU would win this game. I like Harbaugh a lot, but his teams are always slogging it out on offense. At least Oklahoma won last night and they just need to beat Texas to spare us OSU in the playoff.
Let's assume Michigan loses. Then, do you think Oklahoma jumps Georgia? What if Georgia plays Alabama tight in the SEC title game?
Georgia has to win to make the playoffs period. It’s pretty easy for committee if chalk wins. Alabama Clemson Notre Dame and Oklahoma.
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I'm gonna net about $300 on this Ohio State game today and I still have an 8-team parlay working with a net of $225 if Syracuse beats BC. I'd have to go pretty far back in my app history to find a CFB game I've lost. I just wish I had been betting more.

ETA: I mean I got TOSU for -125 at halftime for $50 and that was best value I got in weeks. (Also had $100 TOSU pregame to win $170 and TOSU -$110 for + 4.5 points.
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Nonlinear FC wrote: Mon Nov 19, 2018 9:51 am I don't understand a prediction where OSU "handles" Michigan easily. They just aren't that good this year. I think this game is going to look a lot like playing MSU, where things just stay kind of ugly for 3 Qs and one team makes plays at the end to win.

MI is vulnerable to slants, they are not vulnerable to screens (team speed on D is off the charts.) OSU's defense is terrible. Harbaugh and the staff have a bunch of stuff they've been able to keep off tape because they've rolled everyone other than MSU since NW 6 or 7 weeks ago.

MSU was a weird game and that's how I think this game will go down. But handle easily? I'll take that bet.
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ETA: Didn’t want to make it seem like I was calling you out or anything but I agreed with Brian that the conventional wisdom was way off on this game. Other than the Nebraska game, OSU has been dominant at home this year and I thought it was crazy that Michigan was favored. Also, OSU is a team that plays down to its competition but generally gets up for big games.
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Geez Michigan. Totally outclassed. Nonlinear reaching tennbengal levels of prediction.
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MD QB escapes pocket and lets it fly downfield. Throw is behind big WR, who has to turn around and make the play. CB collapses the distance and is able to make a play on the ball as it hits the wideouts hands.

"The receiver's just got to make that catch there. Here the QB makes it outside and flings it out to him..."

Fucking horse shit. Had the QB thrown the ball out ahead of the WR, that was 6 points. Period.

I watch football like 8x a year and I saw this.
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First off, if you have a take, put it out there before the game. (I've done this before on here, so I'm not being serious.. totally. I'm not gonna get all riled up on a tangent.)

But, yeah, overall they just couldn't account for OSU's speed. Diced them up on crossing patterns all day. And Haskins deciding to finally run effectively. Oh, the other thing that won't get reported enough is how much of a HUGE leap the OSU defense made today. That's the best they've played all year and it's not even close.

Optimism from the UM side was heavily based on the fact that OSU's D has been garbage all year. They were the polar opposite today, which lead to a blow out.

Pretty bummed, obviously. That is a gut shot and MI Land is going to be gnashing teeth due to out-sized expectations going into this one.
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You had one job, Michigan.
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You might want to share some vitriol for Notre Dame it appears. But it will be amusing to see Alabama hang 80 on OSU.
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I was just trying to find a way to get Meyer out.
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tennbengal wrote: Sat Nov 24, 2018 11:43 pm I was just trying to find a way to get Meyer out.
It’s OSU. He’d have to molest a kid. And even then half the fan base would make excuses for him.
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brian wrote: Sun Nov 25, 2018 1:18 am
tennbengal wrote: Sat Nov 24, 2018 11:43 pm I was just trying to find a way to get Meyer out.
It’s OSU. He’d have to molest a kid. And even then half the fan base would make excuses for him.
Until he lost to Michigan.
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DSafetyGuy wrote: Sun Nov 25, 2018 8:16 pm
brian wrote: Sun Nov 25, 2018 1:18 am
tennbengal wrote: Sat Nov 24, 2018 11:43 pm I was just trying to find a way to get Meyer out.
It’s OSU. He’d have to molest a kid. And even then half the fan base would make excuses for him.
Until he lost to Michigan.
Well that never happens.
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Paul Johnson retiring at Georgia Tech. That might be the most fascinating FBS opening. With the HS talent in Georgia and really only having to recruit against Georgia for in-state talent, could be a job where the right guy turns it into a perennial Top 10 type team.
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brian wrote: Wed Nov 28, 2018 2:12 pm Paul Johnson retiring at Georgia Tech. That might be the most fascinating FBS opening. With the HS talent in Georgia and really only having to recruit against Georgia for in-state talent, could be a job where the right guy turns it into a perennial Top 10 type team.
If they decided to ease their academic standards. I may be wrong, but doesn't GT act a bit like Notre Dame, Northwestern, service acadamies, etc. with regard to academic admissions?
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govmentchedda wrote: Wed Nov 28, 2018 3:03 pm
brian wrote: Wed Nov 28, 2018 2:12 pm Paul Johnson retiring at Georgia Tech. That might be the most fascinating FBS opening. With the HS talent in Georgia and really only having to recruit against Georgia for in-state talent, could be a job where the right guy turns it into a perennial Top 10 type team.
If they decided to ease their academic standards. I may be wrong, but doesn't GT act a bit like Notre Dame, Northwestern, service acadamies, etc. with regard to academic admissions?
That's my understanding as well, but still seems like there's room for improvement there. I like Paul Johnson a lot, but the Triple Option isn't something that Power Five teams should be running, especially ones that sit in the most fertile recruiting territory in the country.

(I personally have advocated the CMU consider switching to the Triple Option for a few reasons -- no one else in the MAC runs it making it harder to prepare for, it requires the kind of athletic but undersized OLs that Michigan high schools turn out in droves and it is a hedge against November weather in the midwest.)
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The triple option is great to watch a couple of times a year. Then after that I want to die.
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I would think that the triple option would put you at a disadvantage for recruiting elite skill-position players. Because if one have NFL aspirations, wouldn't a QB or WR rather go where they throw the ball a lot? (I know Georgia Tech did get Calvin Johnson and Demaryius Thomas anyway, but just sayin').
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sancarlos wrote: Wed Nov 28, 2018 3:18 pm I would think that the triple option would put you at a disadvantage for recruiting elite skill-position players. Because if one have NFL aspirations, wouldn't a QB or WR rather go where they throw the ball a lot? (I know Georgia Tech did get Calvin Johnson and Demaryius Thomas anyway, but just sayin').
That was before Georgia Tech ran the Triple Option.
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brian wrote: Wed Nov 28, 2018 3:08 pm(I personally have advocated the CMU consider switching to the Triple Option for a few reasons -- no one else in the MAC runs it making it harder to prepare for, it requires the kind of athletic but undersized OLs that Michigan high schools turn out in droves and it is a hedge against November weather in the midwest.)
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Quick aside, Notre Dame's academic restrictions aren't nearly as tough as Northwestern and Stanford. What screws them up is that they require players to carry a full class load, which is a bitch when they get to the middle of the season. Not saying academic restrictions aren't a thing for them, but they're more like MI in that it is a factor, but not usually insurmountable for most targets. I mean, obviously, they don't target kids where getting them on campus would be a waste because you know they can't hack it. That's just dumb for places like the ones mentioned here. There are only so many "easy" classes at places like this to hide kids who can't handle the material.

GT has tough admission standards and the classes are difficult. But, in general, they in that same realm, maybe a tiny step below NW and Stanford.

I do know that they recently made a commitment to more national recruiting by adding a bunch of staff to the mix. They are going after the private schools in DC, and the states of Ohio and North Carolina, places they've really never been recruiting before. (I'm forgetting another target area.. I read the article many months ago.)
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so we arent gonna mention this Georgia-Bama game? the swamp is weird sometimes
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TT2.0 wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 5:48 pm so we arent gonna mention this Georgia-Bama game? the swamp is weird sometimes
It’s just kinda...meaningless. If alabama loses, they still make playoff, and Georgia is fourth team.
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tennbengal wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 6:01 pm
TT2.0 wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 5:48 pm so we arent gonna mention this Georgia-Bama game? the swamp is weird sometimes
It’s just kinda...meaningless. If alabama loses, they still make playoff, and Georgia is fourth team.
You’re probably right because everyone knows Bama is better than Oklahoma or Ohio State. But the Committee may be less inclined to take a second SEC team when they just played each other right before the playoff. For UGA this is definitely a de facto playoff game and maybe they’d treat it that way for Bama, too.
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I can’t figure out any reasonable scenario where Alabama misses the playoff.
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tennbengal wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 6:14 pm I can’t figure out any reasonable scenario where Alabama misses the playoff.
If you’re picking the four best teams, I agree. Losing to UGA in Atlanta is way more respectable than OU and OSU’s bad games. But if the Committee gets cute and wants to “value the Conference title games,” it could happen.
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What if Alabama gets smoked? They've looked awful so far.
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Joe K wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 6:23 pm
tennbengal wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 6:14 pm I can’t figure out any reasonable scenario where Alabama misses the playoff.
If you’re picking the four best teams, I agree. Losing to UGA in Atlanta is way more respectable than OU and OSU’s bad games. But if the Committee gets cute and wants to “value the Conference title games,” it could happen.
I guess. I would genuinely be stunned if they were left out. Didn’t they make it a year ago and they were not champs of the SEC?
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tennbengal wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 6:32 pm
Joe K wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 6:23 pm
tennbengal wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 6:14 pm I can’t figure out any reasonable scenario where Alabama misses the playoff.
If you’re picking the four best teams, I agree. Losing to UGA in Atlanta is way more respectable than OU and OSU’s bad games. But if the Committee gets cute and wants to “value the Conference title games,” it could happen.
I guess. I would genuinely be stunned if they were left out. Didn’t they make it a year ago and they were not champs of the SEC?
True. They didn't even win their division.
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Committee has it easy now. Georgia blew it.
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degenerasian wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 7:43 pm Committee has it easy now. Georgia blew it.
Man it was sad watching everyone gush.over UGA last night during the post game trophy ceremony. The whistle blew and the lobbyist went to work to get them some of that playoff money.
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The SEC getting in a two-loss Georgia team over one loss champs big 10 and big 12 might be what we need for a death blow to the four team playoff and spur the obvious expansion to eight teams, so I will root for that.
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It’s obviously not going to happen but part of me thinks just give UCF the #4 seed. They haven’t lost a game in 2 years and then you’d have the only four undefeated FBS teams as the playoff participants. We were really close to OU and OSU getting second losses hung on them this regular season, in which case UCF to the playoff might’ve actually happened.
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That would also be awesome because that scenario would definitely force expansion of the playoffs to eight teams.
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Joe K wrote: Sun Dec 02, 2018 7:33 am It’s obviously not going to happen but part of me thinks just give UCF the #4 seed. They haven’t lost a game in 2 years and then you’d have the only four undefeated FBS teams as the playoff participants. We were really close to OU and OSU getting second losses hung on them this regular season, in which case UCF to the playoff might’ve actually happened.
If they still had their QB then yes. But the committee will consider them uncompetitive now. This is what happens when the process is subjective.
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degenerasian wrote: Sun Dec 02, 2018 10:21 am
Joe K wrote: Sun Dec 02, 2018 7:33 am It’s obviously not going to happen but part of me thinks just give UCF the #4 seed. They haven’t lost a game in 2 years and then you’d have the only four undefeated FBS teams as the playoff participants. We were really close to OU and OSU getting second losses hung on them this regular season, in which case UCF to the playoff might’ve actually happened.
If they still had their QB then yes. But the committee will consider them uncompetitive now. This is what happens when the process is subjective.
The backup played really well yesterday, to the point that Milton’s injury shouldn’t really affect their ranking. But I think they’ll finish #7 in the CFP rankings and go to the Fiesta Bowl. They’re very capable of beating whoever their opponent is (likely LSU, Florida or Penn St.).
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ESPN did a nice job trying to manufacture a debate with Ohio State and UGA but Oklahoma was the obvious choice based on how the Committee has always picked their 4 teams. They’ve never taken a 2-loss team and the quality of your loss clearly matters.
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Joe K wrote: Sun Dec 02, 2018 7:33 am It’s obviously not going to happen but part of me thinks just give UCF the #4 seed. They haven’t lost a game in 2 years and then you’d have the only four undefeated FBS teams as the playoff participants. We were really close to OU and OSU getting second losses hung on them this regular season, in which case UCF to the playoff might’ve actually happened.
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