Trump Admin Meltdown Thread Part III - A Democratic House

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Fri Jan 04, 2019 8:44 am

Has everyone seen the documentary from last year called Active Measures?

He's been a Russian puppet for decades and his Trump Towers all over the world are fronts for Russian money laundering.

DSafetyGuy · Post by **DSafetyGuy** » Fri Jan 04, 2019 10:24 am

Johnnie wrote: ↑Thu Jan 03, 2019 10:34 pm Someone on Reddit called them "Alt Right Said Fred."

I saw a tweet saying this is the police department team that loses the charity basketball game to the fire department, 67-14.

Giff · Post by **Giff** » Fri Jan 04, 2019 10:51 am

My favorite was "Worst Robert Palmer video ever".

Ryan · Post by **Ryan** » Fri Jan 04, 2019 10:54 am

Did anyone actually say who they are because I had 50 other jokes lined up but then I remembered there was a story about some Secret Service guys shaving their heads in support of a daughter with cancer and I self-censored.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Fri Jan 04, 2019 11:01 am

Ryan wrote: ↑Fri Jan 04, 2019 10:54 am Did anyone actually say who they are because I had 50 other jokes lined up but then I remembered there was a story about some Secret Service guys shaving their heads in support of a daughter with cancer and I self-censored.

Good god he must be terrified if he needs 4 secret service guys behind him at a press conference.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Fri Jan 04, 2019 11:17 am

The whole motherfucker thing is (1) not a big deal and (2) a really stupid unforced error.

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Fri Jan 04, 2019 11:19 am

EdRomero wrote: ↑Fri Jan 04, 2019 8:31 am

Links to the video:

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Fri Jan 04, 2019 11:24 am

Ryan wrote: ↑Fri Jan 04, 2019 10:54 am Did anyone actually say who they are because I had 50 other jokes lined up but then I remembered there was a story about some Secret Service guys shaving their heads in support of a daughter with cancer and I self-censored.

From HuffPo

It turned out the men were security experts from the National Border Patrol Council and were there to tout the US-Mexico border wall Trump is currently having so much difficulty getting funding for.

Ryan · Post by **Ryan** » Fri Jan 04, 2019 11:25 am

OK so the daughter of a child murderer has cancer maybe

Post by **brian** » Fri Jan 04, 2019 12:06 pm

None of these will pass the GOPers in the Senate or WH of course, but this is a great start. For 1.75 years, need to be hammering home the point that Republicans don't want to implement insanely popular bi-partisan supported democratic reforms.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Fri Jan 04, 2019 12:08 pm

Johnnie wrote: ↑Fri Jan 04, 2019 11:24 am
Ryan wrote: ↑Fri Jan 04, 2019 10:54 am Did anyone actually say who they are because I had 50 other jokes lined up but then I remembered there was a story about some Secret Service guys shaving their heads in support of a daughter with cancer and I self-censored.
From HuffPo

It turned out the men were security experts from the National Border Patrol Council and were there to tout the US-Mexico border wall Trump is currently having so much difficulty getting funding for.

And, Mexico's going toupee for it!

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Fri Jan 04, 2019 12:10 pm

Crackerjack!

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Sat Jan 05, 2019 9:59 pm

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Sat Jan 05, 2019 11:56 pm

Pilots Just Told President Trump To Stop and Think

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Sun Jan 06, 2019 2:15 pm

🎵🎵La-da-da-da-dahh It's the motherfucking D-O-double-G🎵🎵

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Sun Jan 06, 2019 2:18 pm

Thor Hogan of Washington Post argues that Dems shouldn't go for impeachment, but rather they should censure Trump.

On Thursday, freshman Rep. Rashida Tlaib (D-Mich.) infuriated many of her colleagues by telling a room of liberal activists that the Democratic House of Representatives would “impeach the motherf---er.”

To some on the left, Tlaib’s comments seemed not just sensible but long overdue. After all, President Trump has committed impeachable offenses. At a minimum, he has interfered with the ongoing inquiry into Russian election meddling. He has publicly admitted as much, and his numerous tweets on the subject reveal a pattern of obstructing justice. There is also increasing evidence that he colluded with various parties to defraud the American people to win the presidency. We will know more about his offenses when special counsel Robert S. Mueller III concludes his investigation and the House begins its examination of the president’s conduct.

Yet Tlaib’s comments disregard the political reality: Gaining a conviction in the Republican Senate is highly unlikely, and thus far, impeachment remains politically unpopular. This makes it worthwhile for House Democrats to consider an alternative path. Rather than allowing her party to get mired in an impeachment battle that will distract from its progressive message, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) could orchestrate a presidential censure. And not just one. House Democrats could adopt a series of censure resolutions, one for each investigation revealing serious misconduct.

Censure is a formal reprimand adopted by one or both chambers of Congress. Unlike impeachment, presidential censure is not constitutionally sanctioned. Thus, it does not result in removal from office. Yet it has proved to be an effective form of public shaming, especially when implemented in a nonpartisan way. Such a punishment seems well suited for this president and this moment in our national history.

There is precedent for this strategy. Members of Congress have introduced censure resolutions against at least 12 presidents. The most successful effort was the censure of Andrew Jackson in 1834, when the Senate condemned him for removing federal deposits from the Second Bank of the United States...

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Sun Jan 06, 2019 2:41 pm

I mean, sure?

But if Mueller's investigation has gone international, like I think it has, and the paper trail envelops prominent Republicans, then, I feel like, impeachment will be but the cherry on top of the shit sundae when all is said and done.

L-Jam3 · Post by **L-Jam3** » Sun Jan 06, 2019 3:00 pm

Sure. Censure will stop him.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Sun Jan 06, 2019 3:28 pm

L-Jam3 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 06, 2019 3:00 pm Sure. Censure will stop him.

It’ll drive him crazy.

DaveInSeattle · Post by **DaveInSeattle** » Sun Jan 06, 2019 3:47 pm

A_B wrote: ↑Sun Jan 06, 2019 3:28 pm
L-Jam3 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 06, 2019 3:00 pm Sure. Censure will stop him.
It’ll drive him crazy.

Too late...he's already there.

The Sybian · Post by **The Sybian** » Sun Jan 06, 2019 10:05 pm

A_B wrote: ↑Sun Jan 06, 2019 3:28 pm
L-Jam3 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 06, 2019 3:00 pm Sure. Censure will stop him.
It’ll drive him crazy.

No it wouldn't. He is incapable of believing anything he does is wrong, and he can't be shamed. He would chalk it up to the mean Dems being political, and he would make insulting nicknames for more Dems, but that's about it. He doesn't know what a censure is, and when he finds out it is meaningless, he won't give a fuck, and he'd weaponize it for his base.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Sun Jan 06, 2019 10:11 pm

You guys are missing the point. He’d be so infatuated with it he’d tweet like nuts. It’d be perfect. Censure everything and he’s gonna respond to it all.

L-Jam3 · Post by **L-Jam3** » Sun Jan 06, 2019 11:14 pm

I really thought SC put that link as a joke to show how much too many of the left just don’t get it. And they wonder why they lose elections.

Fuck censure. The GOP plays this as war. It’s time to fight fire with fire.

DaveInSeattle · Post by **DaveInSeattle** » Mon Jan 07, 2019 12:21 am

Just out of curiosity....this whole 'Declare a National Emergency and do whatever the fuck I want' isn't a real thing, right? Like, it's not in the constitution, is it?

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Mon Jan 07, 2019 12:51 am

L-Jam3 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 06, 2019 11:14 pm I really thought SC put that link as a joke to show how much too many of the left just don’t get it. And they wonder why they lose elections.

Fuck censure. The GOP plays this as war. It’s time to fight fire with fire.

I certainly wasn’t endorsing it by posting that! It was quite a different proposal that guy had, so I thought I’d bring it to the Swamp’s attention.

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Mon Jan 07, 2019 10:57 pm

You know what's cool?

Trump relentlessly calling the media the enemy of the people and literally every media station giving him airtime for his stupid immigration announcement.

Oh wait. That's not cool at all. That's the media being complicit.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Mon Jan 07, 2019 11:40 pm

Johnnie wrote: ↑Mon Jan 07, 2019 10:57 pm You know what's cool?

Trump relentlessly calling the media the enemy of the people and literally every media station giving him airtime for his stupid immigration announcement.

Oh wait. That's not cool at all. That's the media being complicit.

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

EdRomero · Post by **EdRomero** » Tue Jan 08, 2019 7:15 am

Is he timing this with a story coming out today? Two theories I saw was, one, the Manafort appeal deadline is passing and something might come from that, and, two, the NY courts might be coming up with something soon (which was the cause of Trump's out of the blue "that black president did it too" tweet this weekend).

Would love to see a news scroll about indictments during his address. Or how about a real-time fact checker on the news scroll?

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Tue Jan 08, 2019 12:38 pm

Everyone with a brain is basically demanding a real time fact check during his announcement.

Whether it's something like a live Tweet thing, 10 minute delay with facts scrolling, or a Pop Up Video response, people are pissed that he's being given the greenlight to gaslight without repercussion.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Tue Jan 08, 2019 12:48 pm

A 10 minute delay they're aware of wouldn't matter; they'd toss in a few early surprises that eat up all research time and energy and he'd get away with the rest of it upstream. Ignoring and a detailed later fact-check is the only option.

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Tue Jan 08, 2019 1:06 pm

Hmmm, good point.

Thought a Fire Joe Morgan roast would be excellent too.

HaulCitgo · Post by **HaulCitgo** » Tue Jan 08, 2019 1:33 pm

DaveInSeattle wrote: ↑Mon Jan 07, 2019 12:21 am Just out of curiosity....this whole 'Declare a National Emergency and do whatever the fuck I want' isn't a real thing, right? Like, it's not in the constitution, is it?

Unlike supreme Court justices and ivy league academics who think they know better, the beauty of the Constitution is that you need only read it. Not that long. As a cheat, he can indiscriminately seize Mexicans at the border but can't rob the fed to buy a wall.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Tue Jan 08, 2019 2:12 pm

Yeah, as said many times before, this State of the Union address is just going to be a self-promoting, lie-a-thon, infomercial for his Wall, isn’t it?

L-Jam3 · Post by **L-Jam3** » Tue Jan 08, 2019 2:30 pm

degenerasian wrote: ↑Mon Jan 07, 2019 11:40 pm
Johnnie wrote: ↑Mon Jan 07, 2019 10:57 pm You know what's cool?

Trump relentlessly calling the media the enemy of the people and literally every media station giving him airtime for his stupid immigration announcement.

Oh wait. That's not cool at all. That's the media being complicit.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Explain what you mean by money. If they show the speech, especially uninterrupted, they lose the ad revenue that they would've made had they aired regular programming.

Post by **brian** » Tue Jan 08, 2019 2:43 pm

L-Jam3 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 08, 2019 2:30 pm
degenerasian wrote: ↑Mon Jan 07, 2019 11:40 pm
Johnnie wrote: ↑Mon Jan 07, 2019 10:57 pm You know what's cool?

Trump relentlessly calling the media the enemy of the people and literally every media station giving him airtime for his stupid immigration announcement.

Oh wait. That's not cool at all. That's the media being complicit.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Explain what you mean by money. If they show the speech, especially uninterrupted, they lose the ad revenue that they would've made had they aired regular programming.

Not gonna speak for Johnnie, but the media is definitely obsessed by Trump and whether they want to admit it or not they carry water for him by presenting inflammatory tweets as if they're breaking news and not the ravings of a madman while he's shitting on the john.

Any money they lose tonight in ad revenue during the hour blocked off for the address will be made up 100x in ad revenue from their idiotic talking head shows where we get "both sides-ism" on climate change and racism.

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Tue Jan 08, 2019 2:51 pm

I get that Trump is off the charts a shitty person and president.

But when the president says he wants to address the nation, there's absolutely zero chance the networks can turn him down.

But I wholeheartedly agree with brian that the networks are not helping by covering Trump like there's literally nothing else going on in the world.

Post by **brian** » Tue Jan 08, 2019 2:54 pm

Nonlinear FC wrote: ↑Tue Jan 08, 2019 2:51 pm I get that Trump is off the charts a shitty person and president.

But when the president says he wants to address the nation, there's absolutely zero chance the networks can turn him down.

But I wholeheartedly agree with brian that the networks are not helping by covering Trump like there's literally nothing else going on in the world.

The networks turned down an Obama request in 2014 to address the nation on immigration. (Though I suppose I have to grant the newsworthiness is enhanced during a government shutdown.)

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Tue Jan 08, 2019 2:54 pm

Nonlinear FC wrote: ↑Tue Jan 08, 2019 2:51 pm I get that Trump is off the charts a shitty person and president.

But when the president says he wants to address the nation, there's absolutely zero chance the networks can turn him down.

But I wholeheartedly agree with brian that the networks are not helping by covering Trump like there's literally nothing else going on in the world.

Except, as has been noted everywhere, they did it to Obama in 2014, for get this, being to politically partisan.

So, GTFOH with that excuse.

L-Jam3 · Post by **L-Jam3** » Tue Jan 08, 2019 2:56 pm

All three major networks can if they wanted to show their standard programming on the flagships, and then shunt the gaslighting off to another property (NBC -> MSNBC, ABC -> ESPN8, CBS -> TBS or one of those channels) and just run a ticker saying to tune in there if they want. Anyone who is still only on over-the-air signals lives out in the sticks and support Trump anyway, it's not like they're going to lose them.