Trump Admin Meltdown Thread Part III - A Democratic House

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Fri Sep 20, 2019 2:48 pm

Ha ha fuck yeah Pelosi's fuckin' got this!

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Fri Sep 20, 2019 4:18 pm

mister d wrote: ↑Fri Sep 20, 2019 2:48 pm

Ha ha fuck yeah Pelosi's fuckin' got this!

Wish I could make a meme of her head on NEville Chamberlain's body.

Rex · Post by **Rex** » Fri Sep 20, 2019 6:43 pm

It’s 2019, why the fuck would a politician still believe that the people want the facts?

Post by **brian** » Fri Sep 20, 2019 7:04 pm

The real perplexing question is why Trump is so afraid of Biden. If I were Trump I’d want Biden to get the nomination.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Fri Sep 20, 2019 7:08 pm

brian wrote: ↑Fri Sep 20, 2019 7:04 pm The real perplexing question is why Trump is so afraid of Biden. If I were Trump I’d want Biden to get the nomination.

Trump and the GOP think the progressives have no chance. Biden is the known. Hes the threat.

DSafetyGuy · Post by **DSafetyGuy** » Fri Sep 20, 2019 8:35 pm

Here it is for future use.

Joe K · Post by **Joe K** » Sat Sep 21, 2019 11:53 am

degenerasian wrote: ↑Fri Sep 20, 2019 7:08 pm
brian wrote: ↑Fri Sep 20, 2019 7:04 pm The real perplexing question is why Trump is so afraid of Biden. If I were Trump I’d want Biden to get the nomination.
Trump and the GOP think the progressives have no chance. Biden is the known. Hes the threat.

I think you guys are overthinking it. Trump would probably do the same exact thing to a progressive candidate if he or she had family members doing sketchy overseas consulting work to cash in on their proximity to power. Although Trump has no business criticizing anyone for corruption or nepotism, Hunter Biden’s foreign consulting work is unusual and would get scrutiny during a general election campaign even against a “normal” GOP opponent.

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Sat Sep 21, 2019 3:22 pm

Post by **brian** » Sun Sep 22, 2019 7:43 am

Might seem like small potatoes but this shit pisses Michiganders off and isn’t gonna help Trump next year.

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Mon Sep 23, 2019 12:28 pm

From the WaPo opinion section:

It’s time, Speaker Pelosi

Given all this, what happens if Democrats don’t try to use all the tools of accountability at their disposal, and Trump wins reelection? Democrats should seriously ask themselves what would be left of our democracy at that point — and whether they want such an outcome to be part of their legacy.

How do you remove a Speaker of the House? Nancy needs to step the fuck down and let someone with actual fucking courage to do it.

Rush2112 · Post by **Rush2112** » Mon Sep 23, 2019 3:10 pm

Yes. Used to one rep could call for a vote, now it takes a majority of the majority party to call for a vote on the Speaker.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Mon Sep 23, 2019 8:23 pm

Post by **brian** » Mon Sep 23, 2019 9:44 pm

I’m legitimately about this close to spending the $300 to get on the Dem primary ballot against my sitting Congressman as quixotic as it might be just to be able to throw some bombs in the media calling him a pussy.

phxgators · Post by **phxgators** » Mon Sep 23, 2019 10:30 pm

brian wrote: ↑Mon Sep 23, 2019 9:44 pm I’m legitimately about this close to spending the $300 to get on the Dem primary ballot against my sitting Congressman as quixotic as it might be just to be able to throw some bombs in the media calling him a pussy.

I'd chip in a couple bucks

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Mon Sep 23, 2019 11:16 pm

phxgators wrote: ↑Mon Sep 23, 2019 10:30 pm
brian wrote: ↑Mon Sep 23, 2019 9:44 pm I’m legitimately about this close to spending the $300 to get on the Dem primary ballot against my sitting Congressman as quixotic as it might be just to be able to throw some bombs in the media calling him a pussy.
I'd chip in a couple bucks

Me too.

Rush2112 · Post by **Rush2112** » Mon Sep 23, 2019 11:37 pm

degenerasian wrote: ↑Mon Sep 23, 2019 11:16 pm Me too.

Foreign money is what is wrong with American politics!

Post by **brian** » Mon Sep 23, 2019 11:54 pm

Rush2112 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 23, 2019 11:37 pm
degenerasian wrote: ↑Mon Sep 23, 2019 11:16 pm Me too.
Foreign money is what is wrong with American politics!

That’s some funny shit right there. Seriously. Good stuff.

Post by **brian** » Tue Sep 24, 2019 12:27 am

I know some of you thought I was fucking with you but this is a real scandal now in Michigan. Michigan has a lot of right-wing dildoes but there’s a line with fucking with Michigan traditions. If Trump narrowly loses the election by Michigan only like Gore lost Florida remember this. (I’m more convinced than ever that the narrowest MOV (either way) is going to be Michigan.

https://www.businessinsider.com/mike-pe ... eact2019-9

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Tue Sep 24, 2019 8:01 am

Totally agree. I dont see what benefit Pence thought he would get out of that. But the backlash is huge.

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Tue Sep 24, 2019 8:04 am

degenerasian wrote: ↑Tue Sep 24, 2019 8:01 am Totally agree. I dont see what benefit Pence thought he would get out of that. But the backlash is huge.

No "benefit" per se, but the entire incident is indicative of a certain worldview. The rules are for other people - they are in power and can do whatever they want.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Tue Sep 24, 2019 8:07 am

Pruitt wrote: ↑Tue Sep 24, 2019 8:04 am
degenerasian wrote: ↑Tue Sep 24, 2019 8:01 am Totally agree. I dont see what benefit Pence thought he would get out of that. But the backlash is huge.
No "benefit" per se, but the entire incident is indicative of a certain worldview. The rules are for other people - they are in power and can do whatever they want.

Yes I heard some of it was logistics and security but they didn't need 8 cars.

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Tue Sep 24, 2019 8:17 am

degenerasian wrote: ↑Tue Sep 24, 2019 8:07 am
Pruitt wrote: ↑Tue Sep 24, 2019 8:04 am
degenerasian wrote: ↑Tue Sep 24, 2019 8:01 am Totally agree. I dont see what benefit Pence thought he would get out of that. But the backlash is huge.
No "benefit" per se, but the entire incident is indicative of a certain worldview. The rules are for other people - they are in power and can do whatever they want.
Yes I heard some of it was logistics and security but they didn't need 8 cars.

Yeah but (as quoted in the USA Today article that Brian cited):

When President Gerald Ford visited the island in 1975 — the only sitting president to make such a visit — he and first lady Betty Ford traveled by horse-drawn carriage.

Post by **Sabo** » Tue Sep 24, 2019 8:17 am

Pruitt wrote: ↑Tue Sep 24, 2019 8:04 am
degenerasian wrote: ↑Tue Sep 24, 2019 8:01 am Totally agree. I dont see what benefit Pence thought he would get out of that. But the backlash is huge.
No "benefit" per se, but the entire incident is indicative of a certain worldview. The rules are for other people - they are in power and can do whatever they want.

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Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Tue Sep 24, 2019 8:22 am

Sabo wrote: ↑Tue Sep 24, 2019 8:17 am
Pruitt wrote: ↑Tue Sep 24, 2019 8:04 am
degenerasian wrote: ↑Tue Sep 24, 2019 8:01 am Totally agree. I dont see what benefit Pence thought he would get out of that. But the backlash is huge.
No "benefit" per se, but the entire incident is indicative of a certain worldview. The rules are for other people - they are in power and can do whatever they want.
Animal Farm.jpg

Obviously that view has been around forever and ever, but the blatancy of the way it is paraded in the US these days is scary as hell.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Tue Sep 24, 2019 8:27 am

I'll bet five dollars Pence can't ride a bike.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Tue Sep 24, 2019 8:59 am

Pruitt wrote: ↑Tue Sep 24, 2019 8:17 am
degenerasian wrote: ↑Tue Sep 24, 2019 8:07 am
Pruitt wrote: ↑Tue Sep 24, 2019 8:04 am
degenerasian wrote: ↑Tue Sep 24, 2019 8:01 am Totally agree. I dont see what benefit Pence thought he would get out of that. But the backlash is huge.
No "benefit" per se, but the entire incident is indicative of a certain worldview. The rules are for other people - they are in power and can do whatever they want.
Yes I heard some of it was logistics and security but they didn't need 8 cars.
Yeah but (as quoted in the USA Today article that Brian cited):

When President Gerald Ford visited the island in 1975 — the only sitting president to make such a visit — he and first lady Betty Ford traveled by horse-drawn carriage.

it's not 1975. different world.

Post by **brian** » Tue Sep 24, 2019 9:01 am

If you can't conform to the norms and laws of the place you're visiting, don't visit. It's true for any of us visiting a foreign country and it's certainly true for visiting any place in the United States.

It's just that simple.

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Tue Sep 24, 2019 9:04 am

In many ways, the 70s were a more dangerous time.

Domestic Terrorism In The US in the 70s

TWICE in September 1975 (couple months after his trip to Mackinac) Ford was the target of assassination attempts.

The mere fact that the Vice President is given an 8 vehicle motorcade to travel a country road in a summer resort town (on an island for christ sake) speaks volumes... and not about the inherent danger of travelling to an island.

Post by **brian** » Tue Sep 24, 2019 11:17 am

At this point, if Pelosi doesn't come out in favor of impeachment I think she probably will be replaced as Speaker. The train is leaving the station and it's only a question of who is on it.

Post by **brian** » Tue Sep 24, 2019 11:32 am

My Congressman finally got the fucking message (still kind of mealy-mouthed bullshit, but it's a start):

DaveInSeattle · Post by **DaveInSeattle** » Tue Sep 24, 2019 11:57 am

It's gonna happen now....

And....I will bet any amount of SwampBucks that the House Dem's will pass multiple articles of Impeachment, and Moscow Mitch will not even allow it to be considered in the Senate. He will say something along the lines of 'The voters will be able to decide in November 2020'.

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Tue Sep 24, 2019 12:02 pm

We've known all along that Mitch is going to stonewall this. Of course he is. The point is to get these assholes on record, and let's continue to put a spotlight on the dozens of impeachable offenses this shitbird had committed already, and the meter is running.

DaveInSeattle · Post by **DaveInSeattle** » Tue Sep 24, 2019 12:16 pm

Nonlinear FC wrote: ↑Tue Sep 24, 2019 12:02 pm We've known all along that Mitch is going to stonewall this. Of course he is. The point is to get these assholes on record, and let's continue to put a spotlight on the dozens of impeachable offenses this shitbird had committed already, and the meter is running.

Absolutely...This Ukraine stuff is so beyond the pale, that the Dem's really have no choice. Its like Trump is daring them to do it.

And Moscow Mitch won't let it go any further....

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Tue Sep 24, 2019 12:17 pm

Trump has been daring them to do it since before the Meuller report, when I'm pretty sure polling started to show it was somewhat of a winner with his base and a toss up with independents. There are tweets to this effect, I'm just too lazy to dig them up.

DaveInSeattle · Post by **DaveInSeattle** » Tue Sep 24, 2019 12:19 pm

Trump once again proves that you don't fight teenagers on social media...

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Tue Sep 24, 2019 12:22 pm

Oh shit guys it’s really happening. Pelosi is forming an advisory committee to look into whether having someone(s) else be the face of not acting on impeachment takes some of the heat off her personally. Check fucking mate!

L-Jam3 · Post by **L-Jam3** » Tue Sep 24, 2019 12:37 pm

Nonlinear FC wrote: ↑Tue Sep 24, 2019 12:02 pm We've known all along that Mitch is going to stonewall this. Of course he is. The point is to get these assholes on record, and let's continue to put a spotlight on the dozens of impeachable offenses this shitbird had committed already, and the meter is running.

If anything, get these motherfuckers playing defense for a change.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Tue Sep 24, 2019 12:59 pm

Seems pretty basic, at a minimum, to get all the members plus the party itself on record as protecting Trump. Actuarial charts, if nothing else, say the post-Trump era will be in the near-to-mid future so there's legit value in even a futile attempt.

Post by **brian** » Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:07 pm

Post by **brian** » Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:08 pm

So this is happening. Trump will become the third president in American history to be impeached by the end of October at the latest.