Trump Admin Meltdown Thread Part III - A Democratic House

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:43 pm

EnochRoot wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:37 pm
Johnnie wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:28 pm This dude is fucking clueless. Is this a serious question?

Call them out by name, you asshole.

Spoken like a man who enjoys the company of folks on the other side of the aisle.

These morons are playing with an outdated playbook.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Mon Jul 15, 2019 7:11 pm

Pelosi and Schumer are just holding on to their position and make their millions. Dont want to rock the boat like the brave 4 congresswomen are.

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Tue Jul 16, 2019 9:58 am

I'm guessing this Jeffrey Epstein thing is really getting to him.

Post by **brian** » Tue Jul 16, 2019 10:04 am

These right-wing turds using "Democrat" Party instead of Democratic Party will never not make me laugh.

Post by **brian** » Tue Jul 16, 2019 5:55 pm

Al Green (not that Al Green) is reading articles of impeachment against Trump on the House floor now if you have C-SPAN.

(Sadly, this is probably about as close as we're gonna get to an actual impeachment proceeding against Trump, at least for the immediate future.)

Post by **brian** » Tue Jul 16, 2019 6:01 pm

(I think one underrated aspect of this vote as more than purely ceremonial is that it's likely to set off a Twitter shitstorm from Trump, which in my opinion is rarely a bad thing. It's not gonna change too many minds either way, but there's always a chance we get an n-bomb one of these days.)

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Tue Jul 16, 2019 6:16 pm

All pressure is good pressure.

What do the 187 Republicans who voted no have to say?

Nothing...

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Tue Jul 16, 2019 6:25 pm

Comments aren’t really racist until the NYT caves.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Tue Jul 16, 2019 9:13 pm

"It was unclear if Mr. Trump finished with an -a or an -er."

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Tue Jul 16, 2019 9:23 pm

Ok, I was definitely too harsh on Swalwell in the other thread. This is some really good stuff by him.

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Tue Jul 16, 2019 9:42 pm

Damn, that's good.

Rush2112 · Post by **Rush2112** » Tue Jul 16, 2019 11:34 pm

Johnnie wrote: ↑Tue Jul 16, 2019 9:58 am I'm guessing this Jeffrey Epstein thing is really getting to him.

he fucked over his porn star and his pimp where's a guy to get some relief?

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Wed Jul 17, 2019 9:28 am

Johnnie wrote: ↑Tue Jul 16, 2019 9:23 pm Ok, I was definitely too harsh on Swalwell in the other thread. This is some really good stuff by him.

Yeah, I didn't want to get into it, but Swalwell is REALLY good when he's on MSNBC and CNN taking shots at Trump. He's just better off doing that than trying to be the 19th ranked presidential candidate.

The fact that more people are aware of him will help in the long run.

Post by **brian** » Wed Jul 17, 2019 9:59 am

Nonlinear FC wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 9:28 am
Johnnie wrote: ↑Tue Jul 16, 2019 9:23 pm Ok, I was definitely too harsh on Swalwell in the other thread. This is some really good stuff by him.

Yeah, I didn't want to get into it, but Swalwell is REALLY good when he's on MSNBC and CNN taking shots at Trump. He's just better off doing that than trying to be the 19th ranked presidential candidate.

The fact that more people are aware of him will help in the long run.

I think he's really just trying to position himself to run for Feinstein's Senate seat in 2024 or in the special election after she dies and figured whatever notoriety he could get is a good thing. Probably smart, if true.

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Wed Jul 17, 2019 12:23 pm

From today's Guardian:

Donald Trump’s approval rating with Republicans rose in a USA Today/Ipsos poll conducted entirely after his racist tweets on Sunday attacking four Democratic congresswomen of color.

Trump’s net approval with Republicans in the new poll rose 5 percentage points, to 72%, from a similar poll conducted last week.

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Wed Jul 17, 2019 12:27 pm

Pruitt wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 12:23 pm From today's Guardian:

Donald Trump’s approval rating with Republicans rose in a USA Today/Ipsos poll conducted entirely after his racist tweets on Sunday attacking four Democratic congresswomen of color.

Trump’s net approval with Republicans in the new poll rose 5 percentage points, to 72%, from a similar poll conducted last week.

He's taking a very large hit with Independents. This says a lot about racist republicans, it doesn't say a lot about the overall electorate (or the signs are positive on that front.

BSF21 · Post by **BSF21** » Wed Jul 17, 2019 12:27 pm

Pruitt wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 12:23 pm From today's Guardian:

Donald Trump’s approval rating with Republicans rose in a USA Today/Ipsos poll conducted entirely after his racist tweets on Sunday attacking four Democratic congresswomen of color.

Trump’s net approval with Republicans in the new poll rose 5 percentage points, to 72%, from a similar poll conducted last week.

So am I dumbing it down too much to postulate that with all the child-fucking nearby to these people that overt racism is a preferential way to steer the conversation?

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Wed Jul 17, 2019 12:38 pm

BSF21 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 12:27 pm
Pruitt wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 12:23 pm From today's Guardian:

Donald Trump’s approval rating with Republicans rose in a USA Today/Ipsos poll conducted entirely after his racist tweets on Sunday attacking four Democratic congresswomen of color.

Trump’s net approval with Republicans in the new poll rose 5 percentage points, to 72%, from a similar poll conducted last week.

So am I dumbing it down too much to postulate that with all the child-fucking nearby to these people that overt racism is a preferential way to steer the conversation?

That's what I was kinda thinking when I mentioned Epstein upthread.

And another thing...CNN reports Assange met with Russians and hackers as he turned embassy in London into command post for election attack

Post by **brian** » Wed Jul 17, 2019 12:38 pm

Also 72 percent within the GOP is NOT a good number. That's gonna have to be up closer to at least 80 percent if not 85 percent for him to have a chance to get re-elected.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Wed Jul 17, 2019 12:52 pm

Eh, that's like asking what percentage of people already shit today. 72% definitely did and then another something percent did but felt weird admitting it.

Joe K · Post by **Joe K** » Wed Jul 17, 2019 12:58 pm

mister d wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 12:52 pm Eh, that's like asking what percentage of people already shit today. 72% definitely did and then another something percent did but felt weird admitting it.

Also, I looked at the underlying data and “net approval rating” means the delta between those that approve and those that do not. The results show that 86% of Republicans approve of Trump and 14% disapprove or have mixed feelings. The 72 figure is 86-14.

Post by **brian** » Wed Jul 17, 2019 1:00 pm

Joe K wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 12:58 pm
mister d wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 12:52 pm Eh, that's like asking what percentage of people already shit today. 72% definitely did and then another something percent did but felt weird admitting it.
Also, I looked at the underlying data and “net approval rating” means the delta between those that approve and those that do not. The results show that 86% of Republicans approve of Trump and 14% disapprove or have mixed feelings. The 72 figure is 86-14.

That makes more sense based on what I've seen of his previous polling (and is scary as shit).

L-Jam3 · Post by **L-Jam3** » Wed Jul 17, 2019 1:16 pm

Isn't that partly attributed to the fact that GOP membership is way down DUE to Trump, that only Trumpheads remain? Or them being old and dying, and the younger generations aren't catching up. I can't imagine many people under 30 or so who are GOP but are anti-Trump.

ETA: except for those who read some libertarian or Ayn Rand bullshit in college and were stuck in that phase instead of moving on once they were in the real world.

Post by **brian** » Wed Jul 17, 2019 1:22 pm

I wouldn't put too much stock into short-term polling jumps as there's usually a "circle the wagons" mentality when stuff like this happens. The longer term polling shows that while Trump is very popular with GOP voters, he's not really more popular than any GOP presidents of the last half-century and in fact is at the lower end of that range when you look at polling over the entire term versus those guys in their first term.

That's another Trump lie -- that's he's the most popular GOP president ever or whatever nonsense he says. The argument that he should really be less popular is valid, but it's not like he's some juggernaut and isn't subject to the same vulnerabilities as any other politician ever.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Wed Jul 17, 2019 1:27 pm

it's all about turnout. It could be 80% of this or 70% of that but 100% of 0 is 0.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Wed Jul 17, 2019 2:13 pm

degenerasian wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 1:27 pm it's all about turnout. It could be 80% of this or 70% of that but 100% of 0 is 0.

I agree with this. If the Blacks and Latins get out and vote, we will be rid of this plague.

Rush2112 · Post by **Rush2112** » Wed Jul 17, 2019 2:19 pm

sancarlos wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 2:13 pm
degenerasian wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 1:27 pm it's all about turnout. It could be 80% of this or 70% of that but 100% of 0 is 0.
I agree with this. If the Blacks and Latins get out and are allowed to vote, we will be rid of this plague.

EdRomero · Post by **EdRomero** » Wed Jul 17, 2019 3:55 pm

The racist tweet story is distracting from the new footage showing Trump hanging out with Epstein. I always wonder if these tweets are timed or impulsive because he saw something on tv. I'm sure someone at NBC gave him a heads up this was coming out.

Post by **brian** » Wed Jul 17, 2019 4:09 pm

I think assuming anything like that gives Trump way too much credit. He's just an angry Fox News grandpa and if he sees stuff on there that pisses him off, he tweets about it.

Rush2112 · Post by **Rush2112** » Wed Jul 17, 2019 4:12 pm

brian wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 4:09 pm I think assuming anything like that gives Trump way too much credit. He's just an angry Fox News grandpa and if he sees stuff on there that pisses him off, he tweets about it.

Not like Fox&Friends is going to even acknowledge that videos existence.

Post by **brian** » Wed Jul 17, 2019 4:29 pm

This fuckin' guy:

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Wed Jul 17, 2019 4:39 pm

brian wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 4:29 pm This fuckin' guy:

Someone on my Facebook feed posted an absolutely bonkers clip of Duterte raving about Iceland the other day.

Trump is worse, there really isn't much question any more.

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Wed Jul 17, 2019 5:32 pm

Omar should be like "Not true, but Donald wants to fuck his daughter. Ask his buddy Epstein."

EdRomero · Post by **EdRomero** » Wed Jul 17, 2019 7:54 pm

Watching "highlights" of Trump's campaign rally tonight. They got a chant of "Send her back! Send her back!" about Omar. He then says she makes anti-Semitic attacks, which I'm guessing caused a few Trumpies to pause before responding --"wait, is that good or bad?"

Watching this rally is really scary.

Post by **brian** » Wed Jul 17, 2019 8:10 pm

He’s literally trying to get her killed.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Wed Jul 17, 2019 10:45 pm

EdRomero · Post by **EdRomero** » Wed Jul 17, 2019 11:17 pm

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:38 am

And almost inevitably, the first response to the tweet is this...

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Thu Jul 18, 2019 8:31 am

I mean...how can the evangelical movement square BREAKING A COMMANDMENT ON LIVE TV?

They can dismiss the adultery (well, you really shouldn't be able to, but yet) as...well we don't know for SURE.

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Thu Jul 18, 2019 11:10 am

The thing is... Doubling down like this... He's really forcing a lot of people to back a blatant racist.

That's not going to work. It's not sustainable. You guys give me shit for this, but I was right about the backlash in 2018, and he's going to get lit up in 2020 running as a White Supremacist.

There are a lot of racists in this country. There aren't enough to win national elections. Not even close.