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I felt bad beating up on the ol' Throwboy, or even Trevor Siemian. Better choice out there, LMK.
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The NFL has some serious explaining to do regarding the way they've handled the "investigation" into the Kareem Hunt incident.
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I predict the Rams are gonna have their best defensive performance of the year against the Lions. There's been a lot of grousing about the Rams D, but they've played some great offenses in the last few weeks. For the life of me I'm not sure why the spread isn't higher.
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Brontoburglar wrote: Fri Nov 30, 2018 5:02 pm The NFL has some serious explaining to do regarding the way they've handled the "investigation" into the Kareem Hunt incident.
Wonder if there'll be a Ray Rice sort of reaction - once there was video, Rice was doomed.

That fucker ran up to a prone woman and kicked her.
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Brontoburglar wrote: Fri Nov 30, 2018 5:02 pm The NFL has some serious explaining to do regarding the way they've handled the "investigation" into the Kareem Hunt incident.
Goodell will definitely learn his lesson the 3rd time. Guaranteed.
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Wouldn't put it close to a ray rice level of brutality. Video gonna cost him checks though. Both really should have walked away after the initial mush. You can't keep following an angry NFL running back and not expect to eat the ground (and the wall).
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HaulCitgo wrote: Fri Nov 30, 2018 7:10 pm Wouldn't put it close to a ray rice level of brutality. Video gonna cost him checks though. Both really should have walked away after the initial mush. You can't keep following an angry NFL running back and not expect to eat the ground (and the wall).
Bronto's right though -- the timeline on this is really fucked up. Sounds like the Chiefs/NFL knew about it right after it happened, which honestly leaves a hell of a lot of questions unanswered not the least of which and not the most important of which is why the hell the Chiefs didn't just try to get Hunt suspended for six games at the beginning of the season instead of what might be the last six weeks of the season and/or playoffs.
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If I'm being honest, I'm hoping TMZ sat on this until the most inconvenient/damaging possible time.
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HaulCitgo wrote: Fri Nov 30, 2018 7:10 pm Wouldn't put it close to a ray rice level of brutality. Video gonna cost him checks though. Both really should have walked away after the initial mush. You can't keep following an angry NFL running back and not expect to eat the ground (and the wall).
Kindly fuck off. It’s on hunt to walk away, no? For myriad reasons, the absolute least of which is his career.

I mean shit. You’re basically sayin she wAs asking for it. Fuck that train of thought.
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Chiefs taking it more seriously than Citgo.
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To be fair he should get a couple of months to think it over and see which way the wind is blowing.
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brian wrote: Fri Nov 30, 2018 7:13 pm
HaulCitgo wrote: Fri Nov 30, 2018 7:10 pm Wouldn't put it close to a ray rice level of brutality. Video gonna cost him checks though. Both really should have walked away after the initial mush. You can't keep following an angry NFL running back and not expect to eat the ground (and the wall).
Bronto's right though -- the timeline on this is really fucked up. Sounds like the Chiefs/NFL knew about it right after it happened, which honestly leaves a hell of a lot of questions unanswered not the least of which and not the most important of which is why the hell the Chiefs didn't just try to get Hunt suspended for six games at the beginning of the season instead of what might be the last six weeks of the season and/or playoffs.
I cannot for the life of me figure out the timeline on this. This was a big deal in KC in February, but it disappeared because there were no charges and there was also no kick mentioned in the police report. Then in June there was an alleged punch at a waterpark.

TMZ said that police had the video and that adds another layer. No charges were filed because police said they didn't have evidence of a crime. That's not evidence of a crime? Huh?

If police didn't release the video publicly, the NFL had a hurdle to get it. But they have some really smart and connected people on team and league security. They are well connected. The NFL just learning about the video today seems unlikely if not improbable *if they did a thorough investigation.*

ETA: Hunt was cut as I was typing this and got distracted. Point still stands. I still have a ton of questions. Hunt fucked up and deserves punishment. But there are other people at fault for the way this situation evolved too.
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A_B wrote: Fri Nov 30, 2018 7:29 pm
HaulCitgo wrote: Fri Nov 30, 2018 7:10 pm Wouldn't put it close to a ray rice level of brutality. Video gonna cost him checks though. Both really should have walked away after the initial mush. You can't keep following an angry NFL running back and not expect to eat the ground (and the wall).
Kindly fuck off. It’s on hunt to walk away, no? For myriad reasons, the absolute least of which is his career.

I mean shit. You’re basically sayin she wAs asking for it. Fuck that train of thought.
You don't need to walk away from fights with NFL guys? I'd think you might learn that lesson pretty quick but folks keep trying them and they keep appeasing folk with ass whoopings. Certainly doesn't make it right though it's very obvious that the police didn't see it as cut and dried with regard to criminality so you might not be so indignant. But yeah... Don't beat up anyone.
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That didn’t help your argument.
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“You should know not to incite them” works with like lions and shit, not as a means of distributing share of blame in a conflict with another human.
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A NFL running back is a human with the strength and quickness of a lion so...
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More important question... Do the Redskins put in a waiver claim?
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HaulCitgo wrote: Fri Nov 30, 2018 10:02 pm A NFL running back is a human with the strength and quickness of a lion so...
Adrian Peterson would love your “defer to strength or it’s kinda your fault” reasoning.
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Citgo diggin in. Wow. Just wow.

Also...citgo should watch more discovery channel.
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Johnnie wrote: Fri Nov 30, 2018 10:03 pm More important question... Do the Redskins put in a waiver claim?
ETA: If Washington does sign Kareem Hunt, will they ask Adrian Peterson to discipline him?

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I'm going to be the asshole to just pop up out of nowhere and say it, even though it has been said before, The Patriots are prosperous because they are in the AFC. The NFC is a bloodbath of talented teams. The only team capable of beating the Pats in the AFC is the Chiefs this year. Every other year it's a lackluster group of mediocre teams. yeah, yeah, Pittsburgh. Fuck Pittsburgh. they've shit the bed for years now. There is no one that can stop the stupid Pats from making the Super Bowl except for Kansas City. Meanwhile, the majority of the good teams will battle it out and kill each other in the NFC. Rams, Saints, Bears?, Cowboys?... Ok, this was my argument for last year, doesn't work so well this year. But my original point still stands. Pats have had an easier path to the Super Bowl than their counterparts every year they've made it.

*they played Tennessee and Jacksonville last year! fucking roll out the red carpet before either of those games start...
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And that was all because My Vikings are up against the Patriots this week. True test for Minnesota. and for New England. The Vikings have lost to every good team they have faced this year, Saints and Rams... and I guess we can include the Bears. Not sure why i said it's a test for New England... They're doing good enough already. I guess if they shut down a team that was predicted to be first in the NFC (north at least), they be doing good.
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HaulCitgo wrote: Fri Nov 30, 2018 10:02 pm A NFL running back is a human with the strength and quickness of a lion so...
I have the strength and quickness of a housecat but could still beat the shit out of women. But I don't, even if 'provoked'.

He might have an argument if it weren't for the kick.


This is like saying "oh he should have listened to the police" after someone gets shot.
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Saying that an individual’s strength and athleticism makes them *less* culpable for their violent actions is certainly a take. Deontay Wilder could straight up kill people if he got into bar fights, but I don’t think “tough shit, you should’ve stayed away from him” would fly as as defense if he did that. And that type of mentality is particularly gross in the domestic violence context, given the very long history in this country and others of law enforcement condoning relationship violence against women.

And even if you take out the kick, Hunt gave the woman a hard shove and then fought past repeated attempts by his friends to restrain him, including throwing that one guy to the ground in an effort to get back to her.
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Saying she could have avoided those shots if she wouldn't have moved toward him after the first shot is not assigning blame or limiting culpability. Just truth. And common sense.
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Common sense was for Hunt not putting himself in a situation like this. Just keep her out of the room like she reported. He had kicked her out of the room. Call hotel security to have her re elected over or sent to the lobby to wait for her ride. But he confronts her. Has to be held back by multiple people and still shoves one of them hard enough to knock her into the wall. She was definitely woozy and trying to get up. And then to top it all off he had to kick her.

There needs to be questions raised to the CPD for their actions in viewing the tape. Why did they not think it warranted no action? Same goes for the NFL/Chiefs.
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duff wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 8:25 amCall hotel security to have her re elected over or sent to the lobby to wait for her ride.
Re-elected after mistreating women buddy I think you have the wrong thread!!!
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HaulCitgo wrote: Fri Nov 30, 2018 10:02 pm A NFL running back is a human with the strength and quickness of a lion so...
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TheHumanComa wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 3:16 am Pats have had an easier path to the Super Bowl than their counterparts every year they've made it.
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[troll]Thanks for the reminder that the Pats are 2-5 in playoff matchups against the Mannings. Shows what happens when they actually face real competition.
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I also think the Steelers, Colts, and Chargers with their competent QBs all could beat KC with or without Hunt because of KC's defense. Those three can also beat the Pats in the playoffs.
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Small limb I'm climbing out on, but the Chargers will do nothing in the playoffs.

Combination of bad coaching and no home field advantage and being snake-bitten...
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Pruitt wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 2:03 pm Small limb I'm climbing out on, but the Chargers will do nothing in the playoffs.

Combination of bad coaching and no home field advantage and being snake-bitten...
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mister d wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 9:40 am
duff wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 8:25 amCall hotel security to have her re elected over or sent to the lobby to wait for her ride.
Re-elected after mistreating women buddy I think you have the wrong thread!!!
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degenerasian wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 2:24 pm
mister d wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 9:40 am
duff wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 8:25 amCall hotel security to have her re elected over or sent to the lobby to wait for her ride.
Re-elected after mistreating women buddy I think you have the wrong thread!!!
This cracked me up. What was it supposed to say?
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TheHumanComa wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 3:16 am I'm going to be the asshole to just pop up out of nowhere and say it, even though it has been said before, The Patriots are prosperous because they are in the AFC. The NFC is a bloodbath of talented teams. The only team capable of beating the Pats in the AFC is the Chiefs this year. Every other year it's a lackluster group of mediocre teams. yeah, yeah, Pittsburgh. Fuck Pittsburgh. they've shit the bed for years now. There is no one that can stop the stupid Pats from making the Super Bowl except for Kansas City. Meanwhile, the majority of the good teams will battle it out and kill each other in the NFC. Rams, Saints, Bears?, Cowboys?... Ok, this was my argument for last year, doesn't work so well this year. But my original point still stands. Pats have had an easier path to the Super Bowl than their counterparts every year they've made it.

*they played Tennessee and Jacksonville last year! fucking roll out the red carpet before either of those games start...
houston is afc and currently has the nfls longest winning streak and a soft schedule. if we somehow get new england at NRG...aybe it works out
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Portions of the Kareem Hunt interview on ESPN (I didn't watch, PFT has quotes):
I just want to let the world know how sorry I am for my actions. It’s been a tough time for me and I’m extremely embarrassed because of that video. I’m definitely not that kind of person. My mother raised me right. I was raised by my mom and my grandma and they taught me right from wrong.
Actually, you are that kind of person.
He also admitted to lying to the Chiefs about what happened after the incident was first reported in February.
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