2019 NCAA Tournament Thread

DSafetyGuy · Post by **DSafetyGuy** » Mon Apr 08, 2019 2:50 pm

mister d wrote: ↑Mon Apr 08, 2019 10:13 am So how does this work for $300K ticket guy? Is he looking for a book that'll work on his ticket credit to lock in ~$150K guaranteed?

From what I read, he has made enough other bets on Virginia that, no matter how the game unfolds tonight, he will win money (the $300K ticket only cost him $1,500). He has apparently turned down an offer for $125K through a website where you can sell off future bets. He did sell a $800 futures ticket on Texas Tech at 125-to-1 for over $20K before the Final Four game (winning value is $100K).

wlu_lax6 · Post by **wlu_lax6** » Mon Apr 08, 2019 3:27 pm

Nonlinear FC wrote: ↑Mon Apr 08, 2019 12:24 pm What I find funny is hearing shit talk about football from MD fans. Fuck right off with that with your janky-ass history of mediocrity.)

But Frank Reich and the comeback..
and the 1951 Southern Championship and 1952 upset of TN
11 Conference Championships (although most are before I was born)

so yeah Janky-ass is about right

Post by **Shirley** » Mon Apr 08, 2019 6:06 pm

A_B wrote: ↑Mon Apr 08, 2019 12:17 pm
Shirley wrote: ↑Sun Apr 07, 2019 1:37 pm To me, if you don't appreciate good defense, you aren't really a basketball fan and your opinion means little to me.
That's a weird thing to say, likely colored by your fandom a great deal. I sure don't remember you extolling the virtues of Cincinnati in the mid 2000s and those terrible to watch play Louisville teams shortly thereafter. People like different styles.

That said, it's also easier to be locked in on defense for a whole game when you get to rest on offense the whole game. I appreciate defense (Cal's UK teams are usually decently balanced, but the defense is more dependable, as Joe K mentioned above) but it isn't my favorite style to watch being played.

Yeah, I worded that poorly. I'm really talking about the people - and I've been hearing it for years now - that say they can't bear to watch Virginia play because it's bad basketball. And I'm sure you can plug some other programs in there, like Texas Tech now.

If you've actually watched Virginia play much - unless they are dismantling your team - and you enjoy good basketball, I honestly don't understand how you can say they are hard to watch. They do play a slower pace, but they don't just hold the ball on offense and grab on defense. Not at all. There's a reason why the basketball nerd Twitter and YouTube accounts are regularly breaking down UVA offensive sets (and yes, the defense too).

Slow and/or low-scoring doesn't have to equal ugly.

That said, the game tonight might get ugly, because it's possible neither offense will get rolling. But I seriously doubt it will be as bad as that UConn-Butler game from 2011 (both of these teams tonight are better at both offense and defense than either of those teams were).

rass · Post by **rass** » Mon Apr 08, 2019 8:10 pm

rass · Post by **rass** » Mon Apr 08, 2019 8:11 pm

He fucking nailed the ending.

DaveInSeattle · Post by **DaveInSeattle** » Mon Apr 08, 2019 8:21 pm

Good luck Shirley!

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Mon Apr 08, 2019 8:27 pm

At the under 16 timeout its 3 free throws to 1 FG.

Post by **brian** » Mon Apr 08, 2019 8:28 pm

Virginia is a lot more fun to watch than those Bo Ryan Wisconsin teams as well. But I’d still rather see a 90-89 game.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Mon Apr 08, 2019 8:53 pm

Suddenly it's raining baskets.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Mon Apr 08, 2019 9:08 pm

Other than first six minutes or so that was good basketball.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Mon Apr 08, 2019 10:07 pm

Turns out it'll easily go over the total. More points than both semifinals.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Mon Apr 08, 2019 10:17 pm

Pretty great final.

L-Jam3 · Post by **L-Jam3** » Mon Apr 08, 2019 10:23 pm

Coming down to the last possession. Can’t ask for much more.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Mon Apr 08, 2019 10:30 pm

Overtime. For title. You really can’t ask for much more when you are unbiased. Hope Shirley’s heart holds out.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Mon Apr 08, 2019 10:41 pm

Lost by a pinky?

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Mon Apr 08, 2019 10:42 pm

degenerasian wrote: ↑Mon Apr 08, 2019 10:41 pm Lost by a pinky?

Didn’t look conclusive to me.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Mon Apr 08, 2019 10:42 pm

A_B wrote: ↑Mon Apr 08, 2019 10:42 pm
degenerasian wrote: ↑Mon Apr 08, 2019 10:41 pm Lost by a pinky?
Didn’t look conclusive to me.

Yeah I dont believe replay should be used that way. Not in super slow motion.

HaulCitgo · Post by **HaulCitgo** » Mon Apr 08, 2019 10:43 pm

Stupid.

Post by **brian** » Mon Apr 08, 2019 10:43 pm

A_B wrote: ↑Mon Apr 08, 2019 10:42 pm
degenerasian wrote: ↑Mon Apr 08, 2019 10:41 pm Lost by a pinky?
Didn’t look conclusive to me.

I was watching with sound off and it looked like TTU got screwed on that one.

L-Jam3 · Post by **L-Jam3** » Mon Apr 08, 2019 10:48 pm

Congrats, Shirley!

Joe K · Post by **Joe K** » Mon Apr 08, 2019 10:53 pm

UVA wins the title with an aggregate score of 201-200 in its last 120 minutes of regulation basketball.

Post by **brian** » Mon Apr 08, 2019 10:58 pm

Lozo remains the best.

DaveInSeattle · Post by **DaveInSeattle** » Mon Apr 08, 2019 11:09 pm

A_B wrote: ↑Mon Apr 08, 2019 10:42 pm
degenerasian wrote: ↑Mon Apr 08, 2019 10:41 pm Lost by a pinky?
Didn’t look conclusive to me.

I thought the replay at the other end looked more obvious. But what do I know...

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Mon Apr 08, 2019 11:13 pm

(Congrats Shirley.)

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Mon Apr 08, 2019 11:14 pm

DaveInSeattle wrote: ↑Mon Apr 08, 2019 11:09 pm
A_B wrote: ↑Mon Apr 08, 2019 10:42 pm
degenerasian wrote: ↑Mon Apr 08, 2019 10:41 pm Lost by a pinky?
Didn’t look conclusive to me.

I thought the replay at the other end looked more obvious. But what do I know...

It probably did but that's an unrealistic expectation.

If I'm dribbling the ball and you knock it away, if you get it as I'm dribbling down, for sure my fingers will come down and graze the ball. Because it's a human reflex to move towards an object that is lost. If you get it as I'm dribbling up, then my fingers will move away. The reflex to move towards the lost object is still in effect but it's too far away.

Are we dissecting sports rules to that extent?

Rex · Post by **Rex** » Tue Apr 09, 2019 6:23 am

All these years and we haven't found a way to officiate out of bounds that's better than how they do it on the playground.

Rex · Post by **Rex** » Tue Apr 09, 2019 6:24 am

Also, this guy. To steal from Gordon Gekko, if he owned a funeral parlor nobody would die.

rass · Post by **rass** » Tue Apr 09, 2019 6:28 am

Fell asleep at some point in the second half. Woke up and watched the last minute or two. Somehow didn't know it was OT until I heard it mentioned on the radio this morning. Great game?

Post by **Shirley** » Tue Apr 09, 2019 6:39 am

Man, what a game. And what a tourney run.

I wish I could bottle whatever it is that has gotten into Virginia's opponents with about 4-5 minutes left in these games. In each of the last three, UVA had a lead and the other team started nailing (or in Purdue's case, continued nailing) contested threes to get back in the game - actually a bit ahead in all three before UVA answered in the last seconds.

So, who would have guessed that UVA would score 85, the most by a team in the championship in a decade?

On the Moretti turnover, I agree that it's a bit too much to look at replay that way. The refs made the right call technically (it hit his fingers last), but in any other situation, all involved would have agreed that it was off Hunter. Frankly, the previous OOB replay should have gone UVA's way as well for the same reason (the Tech dude hit it last). That said, there was about a minute left and UVA was up 2 at that point, so it's not like it absolutely cost TT the game or handed it to UVA.

Man, I can't believe my team won the tournament. It is surreal.

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Tue Apr 09, 2019 7:48 am

A long time coming!

Enjoy the feeling Shirley.

Ryan · Post by **Ryan** » Tue Apr 09, 2019 7:54 am

Rank 'em!

Most Outstanding Players 1955-60
Bill Russell
Wilt Chamberlain
Elgin Baylor
Jerry West
Jerry Lucas

Most Outstanding Players 1979-84
Magic Johnson
Isiah Thomas
James Worthy
Akeem Olajuwon
Patrick Ewing

Most Outstanding Players 2013-19
Luke Hancock
Shabazz Napier
Tyus Jones
Ryan Arcidiacono
Joel Berry
Dante DiVincenzo
Kyle Guy

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Tue Apr 09, 2019 7:55 am

Aye, congrats Dave. I actually picked UVA to win it in one of my main pools - playing the bounceback theory. Still didn't win the damn thing even though I was only one to pick UVA as I lose by one point under the scoring method used in that one.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Tue Apr 09, 2019 8:01 am

I think that latest group could play all seven at once and still finish a distant third.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Tue Apr 09, 2019 8:02 am

Ryan wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2019 7:54 am Rank 'em!

Most Outstanding Players 1955-60
Bill Russell
Wilt Chamberlain
Elgin Baylor
Jerry West
Jerry Lucas

Most Outstanding Players 1979-84
Magic Johnson
Isiah Thomas
James Worthy
Akeem Olajuwon
Patrick Ewing

Most Outstanding Players 2013-19
Luke Hancock
Shabazz Napier
Tyus Jones
Ryan Arcidiacono
Joel Berry
Dante DiVincenzo
Kyle Guy

Wow, it's like the best players stayed in school longer back then!

Ryan · Post by **Ryan** » Tue Apr 09, 2019 8:05 am

mister d wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2019 8:01 am I think that latest group could play all seven at once and still finish a distant third.

And I left out 1980 Darrell Griffith

Rex · Post by **Rex** » Tue Apr 09, 2019 8:09 am

I really doubt that a team of 50+ year olds (or a team of 70 year olds!) could hang with a team of current NBA roleplayers/G-League fodder.

Ryan · Post by **Ryan** » Tue Apr 09, 2019 8:13 am

DiVincenzo is out for the year and Arcidiacono was a backup 52 times this year for the Bulls.

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Tue Apr 09, 2019 8:23 am

rass wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2019 6:28 am Fell asleep at some point in the second half. Woke up and watched the last minute or two. Somehow didn't know it was OT until I heard it mentioned on the radio this morning. Great game?

The first half and most of the second half was what we all predicted - incredibly tough to score points, 0 fast break points (maybe an exaggeration, but not by much.)

Then, with VA pulling ahead around the 12 minute mark, it turned into a classic. TT stormed back, and it looked like they might pull it off (up 3 with 22 seconds) and the Cavs reeled it back in. OT kind of got away from the Raiders, but if a game goes to OT... Classic in my book.

Congrats to Dave. Quite a run.

Ryan · Post by **Ryan** » Tue Apr 09, 2019 8:26 am

Wrong thread now maybe, but I was born in Virginia, Curtis Staples was my favorite weird player growing up, and I once bought a pair of UVA basketball shorts from Eastbay in middle school. Congrats me.

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Tue Apr 09, 2019 8:29 am

Shirley wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2019 6:39 am

On the Moretti turnover, I agree that it's a bit too much to look at replay that way. The refs made the right call technically (it hit his fingers last), but in any other situation, all involved would have agreed that it was off Hunter. Frankly, the previous OOB replay should have gone UVA's way as well for the same reason (the Tech dude hit it last). That said, there was about a minute left and UVA was up 2 at that point, so it's not like it absolutely cost TT the game or handed it to UVA.

I absolutely HATE* that call. I'm glad they don't review that same type of play in soccer, because when a guy comes barging in on a tackle, the benefit of the doubt goes to the team that was holding the ball. The could certainly review everyone one of those and a percentage would get overturned, but there's a spirit of the game involved there. (Yes, there are obvious instances where it clearly bounces off of a player and is correctly called. But the equivalent of a pinky fingernail? Just annoying to me.)

To me, like Shirley is saying, if it's that insanely close and there's ANY kind of question, you leave the call as is. I've seen a lot of that get overturned this year and it just seems wrong.

*ETA - Strong language here... I get that the refs are in a no-win situation here.