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Gunpowder's 2019 NFL Mock Draft Extravaganza

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Draft time! The time of year where hundreds of thousands of people pointlessly attempt to guess the trivial selections of recent college football players by NFL teams, as if a mock draft means even the slightest damn. Like, why don’t people just wait until the draft and see who they take? It’s so dumb. Anyway, I’m part of that group of morons so here’s the 2019 Mock Draft Extravaganza, presented by CVS brand generic Omeprazole. Hey dipshit, did you take too many aspirins and give yourself a fuckin’ ulcer? CVS generic Omeprazole.

If something crazy happens like the Giants trading up to the first pick tomorrow to take a left guard, I might release a version 2. But in the meantime, since the trades for the first pick seem to happen before the draft, I’m not going to mock a crazy one until it actually happens, even though I don’t think the Cardinals will end up using the pick if they don’t take Murray. I did for real think about having the Bengals jump up to #1 for Kyler Murray, as unlikely as that is, because ehhh why the fuck not.

Speaking of trades, I think people should include trades when they make mock drafts. But why, if this is a pointless exercise existing only to give questionable information to people who would gladly read an article written by Adolf Hitler’s dick so long as it were about the NFL? Well, it may be borderline impossible to predict the NFL draft, but it’s also nearly impossible to win the Powerball. Yet if you’re going to play, you’re going to pick a number that is actually capable of winning. And since there are trades every single year in the first round of the draft – an average of 5 each year on draft day since 2010, with at least 4 every year excluding 2015 (only 2 that year) – if you don’t mock it, you’re just not being realistic. So if you’re gonna shoot, shoot your best shot, iiite?

Finally, this mock is a combination of what I would do and what I think will happen and ultimately something I just do because I like to do it. Are some of these picks going to be hilariously wrong? Yes. Will this be obvious to some people well in advance? Sure. Are some of these mocked selections just plain stupid? Yes. But – do I give a shit? No. I don’t. And shit, nobody would have predicted Terrell Edmunds or Rashaad Penny last year so who the hell really knows. I don’t know every team’s tendencies, I don’t know how much is smoke and how much is fire about prospect interviews and general demeanor, I don’t know their medicals, I don’t know who broke their infant son’s arm or pissed on a tollbooth attendant in November. I don’t know how QBs do in their interviews, and I don’t know how much is just Charley Casserly continuing to traffic in wrongness to sell his draft interview prep service or whatever the hell he does. I’m just guessin’ blind, man. Alright so here we go.



1. SAN FRANCISCO trades with ARIZONA for the first overall pick.


SAN FRANCISCO selects Nick Bosa, EDGE, el Universidad de Ohio Estada.


It seems pretty clear that San Francisco wants Bosa, and I think that Arizona would rather have Quinnen Williams and some extra picks to help their rebuild along. Similar to the 49ers getting the Bears to cough up a bit extra to ensure they get Trubisky, I think the Cardinals could finesse a 3rd or 4th rounder or so out of the Niners to do the same. And they would have a compelling argument – some other team may really want Kyler Murray, the Cardinals could certainly quite feasibly select Bosa themselves and shit, the Bucs have been whiffing on Edge rushers for as long as I can remember and I briefly considered having them move up to take Bosa. But in the end, I don’t think that will happen.


Does that mean I don’t think there’s anything to the Kyler Murray smoke? No. I do think there’s something to it, I just think in the end the Cardinals will pass. Or hell, they could still do something like this and take him 2nd.


Anyway, since I was wrong on Joey Bosa, I’m not going to make the same mistake on bro Nick. He seems like a better prospect than Joey as well – more of a pure edge guy than Joey was, at least from an athletic perspective. Like, the flexibility and bend is crazy for a guy this size, almost like Myles Garrett a few years back:


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I think Edge Rusher is one the hardest positions to project, because pass rushers “lose” so many of their reps. If a DE pressures a QB once every 15 plays – not even 7% of the time – he’s going to the Pro Bowl and the offensive lineman responsible is being cut. So you’re watching a lot of guys making no impact and trying to judge who is making no impact better than the other guys. You also don’t know their responsibilities – in college in particular, edge guys are playing a contain role first on many plays. They can’t just blindly rush with half of the teams running spready college offenses (though these are becoming much more commonplace in the NFL). The only ones I was ever sure on were Khalil Mack and Myles Garrett. Am I that sure on Bosa? Not quite – I am not quite considering him a “generational” prospect to add to my short list*. But he’s in the tier of really, really good prospects right below that. He’s strong, he’s got the bend, he’s got the juice to fly around the edge and the hands to counter:


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His athletic profile is nearly elite. Mix that with the bloodlines? I think he’s going to go first overall. He’s a very, very good chance at a star at a position where you don’t always see that and GMs would wade through an hourlong acid bukkake in order to take an Edge Rusher fitting that profile.


*”Generational” may be a bad term because there may be too many to literally mean generational but whatever, let’s just call it “extremely fuckin’ elite”. The list so far since I’ve paid attention is:


1. Reggie Bush (whoops)
2. Calvin Johnson
3. Andrew Luck
4. Khalil Mack
5. Myles Garrett
6. Leonard Fournette (ok so I guess ignore running backs when they are on this list)
7. Quentin Nelson
8. Ndamukong Suh (forgot about him in previous iterations), and…


2. ARIZONA selects Quinnen Williams, DT, Alabama

Quinnen Williams is incredible. He’s literally double teamed on like 95% of snaps (I’m not joking or even exaggerating to my knowledge) and it doesn’t matter. He just runs through them. He looks a bit like Suh did at Nebraska where if he’s not your main focus on every snap, he’s going to wreck that play. He’s also a very smart player who puts himself in great position to make plays against the run. He’s incredible. A lot of people think he’s the best player in this draft, and I obviously agree. However, Bosa is no slouch himself and plays a more “valuable” position, so Williams has to settle for 2nd this year.

(Sidenote: I had changed my mind to consider interior pressure more important but this from PFF is interesting - https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/p ... ns-supreme . They make the case that you can scheme against interior pressure more easily than against edge pressure, which is sort of counterintuitive but so are a lot of things in this world. I happen to chalk a lot of it up to worse results for the offense when edge pressure gets home but either way it’s interesting.)


3. NY JETS select Brian Burns, EDGE, Florida State

Everybody has Josh Allen as the next Edge Rusher off the board after Bosa. Well, except me. I’m not a huge fan of this year’s Edge group (sounds like a Pornhub tag), outside of Bosa and Brian Burns. And the Jets need Edge rushers. I started capitalizing that earlier and now it’s annoying that I can’t stop without being inconsistent.

Burns is the only other Edge guy in my opinion outside of Bosa who has good flexibility/bend and hand technique in this class. (This keeps getting even more Pornhub-ier). It’s not as good as Bosa’s but it comes in a more athletic body, at least according to Combine metrics. Burns has good tape and tested extremely well, so why is he being mocked in the 10s while Josh Allen gets top 5 hype? Do I just irrationally dislike all Josh Allens? I don’t know.

Regardless, Burns can bend into the QB:

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…and he has the technique to counter blocks around the edge:

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He also has a motor that does not quit, like a lot of the pass rushers in this class (it’s a very good year for high character guys on the field – these dudes’ motors run hot). He’s a pretty decent run defender, and he even drops back into coverage occasionally. I wouldn’t depend on it – he’s definitely best going after the QB – but he’s got the ability to do it if he lands with a 3-4 team like NYJ. (Those distinctions matter less and less now as most teams spend 70+% of their time in sub packages but whatever). Burns and Bosa are the only guys that don’t seem to get regularly held up around the edge (and maybe Chase Winovich), and to me they are the only ones I’d trust in the top 10. This guy is a player and I don’t think he’s lasting anywhere near Green Bay or wherever people are slotting him now.


4. CINCINNATI trades with OAKLAND for the 4th pick.


CINCINNATI selects Kyler Murray, QB, Oklahoma


Now it’s time to really get crazy.


Will this happen? Almost assuredly not, especially when Mike Brown remembers how much he has to pay the 4th pick.


Should this happen? Hell yeah it should. Why not?


Andy Dalton is like a thermometer. He tells you the temperature of your offense. If you have a really good offense, like the Bengals did a few years ago, Andy Dalton will play at a high level. He will, for real. But if your offense is not so good? Andy Dalton will struggle a ton. And that’s great and all but it’s been almost 10 years and it’s time to move on and look for a guy who can play well without having elite guys around him. Is Kyler Murray that guy? I don’t know…does a bear shit on another bear’s chest? Probably depends what city you’re in.


Kyler Murray presents the same issues that Marcus Mariota and Bob Griffin III and Baker Mayfield presented….they play in an offense so good that it’s very tough to determine how good they are really playing. Guys are WIDE the f open regularly, teams barely play any defense in the conference, and the offensive line keeps the QB clean for minutes at a time. These are relatively typical windows that Murray is throwing into:


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Those windows are big enough for Antonio Brown to throw furniture through them.


He’s certainly very accurate into these windows, and he does obviously have to throw into tighter windows at times and often does so quite well. It’s not that he doesn’t necessarily have the capability to do it, it’s that there aren’t that many instances to project him as confidently as a guy like Jameis Winston, who was regularly throwing balls through glory holes to plodding wide receivers running 12 yard curls. And we all see how that has turned out, so in the end who the hell knows what’s going to happen.

In addition to the windows that are naturally created by the offensive scheme, the Oklahoma team is just completely stacked. They have NFL guys all over this offense. One of them is Marquise Brown, who threatens every single defense that doesn’t focus on him with a 70 yard TD every single play. Another is Cody Ford, part of a line that just manhandles defenses and generally gives Murray hours to throw. And they’ve got Rodney Anderson, a running back who has first round tape but will fall in this draft due to injury. They are stacked, just like last year, just like when Baker Mayfield put up crazy stats throwing into the same windows. Just like when Mariota did the same at Oregon. While we may be cursed to never knowing how good Marcus Mariota is or isn’t, Baker Mayfield is already on a Hall of Fame level trajectory, so none of this means you can’t take Kyler Murray high. It didn’t mean you couldn’t take Aaron Rodgers high, and it didn’t mean you couldn’t take Kyle Boller high. All of these guys are risks and traditional QBs – like Winston – also bust. So do guards and corners and everyone else. You’re just less confident in your projection is all.

Murray has a great arm – naturally, as I don’t know if you’ve heard but he also played baseball. It’s really easy to compare him to Russell Wilson, but – he looks just like Russell Wilson. He doesn’t have the cannon that Wilson had, but he throws with more touch. He’s much more tethered to the pocket than Wilson, who runs away from clean pockets like they are trying to have premarital sex with him (which may be height related), and he is absolutely dangerous when he takes off and runs. And unlike say Lamar Jackson, he doesn’t really take big hits. He’s a very smart runner. Was this ideal 15 years ago? No, but outside of Ja Rule being relevant in the news, it’s not 15 years ago. Teams run different offenses that are more college-y and friendlier to QBs who run around, especially for ones who can sneak into your house through the doggy door. Just because Murray is usually looking to throw first doesn’t mean he won’t take off running for no reason at times:


Running against a three man rush, into the defensive end:

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Running outside into pressure and forcing a throwaway when he could have made throwing room by stepping up:

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But even when he does run needlessly, it often has good results. However, that’s not necessarily the case in the NFL, as Lamar Jackson quickly discovered. But Lamar Jackson learned, and so can Murray. Even if Charlie Casserly thinks he’s disinterested or whatever. Maybe the baseball thing will scare teams off, I don’t know. I’m assuming it won’t.


Murray is going to be a nightmare to defend against, if even a little of his throwing ability goes along with him and translates to the NFL. And we are picking nits with him, to some degree. If he does have one major flaw, though, to me it’s his tendency to randomly just heave balls into coverage sometimes (particularly when pressured).

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Against Alabama, the guys weren’t wide open, the running lanes weren’t there, and Murray struggled. So it’s definitely a concern. But all of these guys have concerns, every year. And it’s Alabama. They’re pretty awesome. I think the pros outweigh the cons and a team like Cincinnati, who is kind of trapped in NFL purgatory (I’m talking about a middle-tier team with a meh QB, not “Ohio”) – if they see a shot to go up and get a top QB, they should take it.


5. TAMPA BAY selects Devin White, ILB, LSU

Tough spot for Tampa Bay, but I don’t see much of a move out for them here. Since ILB is a huge need for them and since there are no Edge guys here that I like enough to take at 5th, I’ll just keep them in this spot for Devin White.

White has some concerns with his processing, just like every single other ILB in this class and arguably in most classes, but his athleticism is just insane. He’s the fastest, strongest guy on the field. He looks like Fournette playing linebacker.

Every year it’s “oh this LB struggles getting off blocks” – well yeah, they pretty much all do when 300+ pound guards square them up. Ray Lewis struggled at getting off blocks, too. Leighton Vander Esch was running around Boise last year crushin’ hoes, slowly reading his keys and occasionally getting stuck on blocks but when he saw the ball and was able to sneak through the trash, he would run to it and tackle the shit out of it. Now he’s doing that in Dallas at an All-Pro level (the hoes too probably). I think White could do the same thing. He’s one of my favorite players in this year’s draft.

The mental processing thing could be a problem, sure – but I don’t think it’s bad enough to drop him (unlike with Devin Bush). He’s seek and destroy.


6. NY GIANTS select Montez Sweat, EDGE, Mississippi State

Now it’s time to start doing dumb stuff.

Montez Sweat KILLED the Combine. He murdered it. (https://www.mockdraftable.com/player/montez-sweat)

But he doesn’t play like that.

Sweat is strong as an ox (regardless of what the bench press result indicates) and will push offensive linemen right back into the QB’s lap or just throw them on the ground pretty regularly. Watch him bury this K-State tackle alive (Dalton Risner, who I have late in this mock):

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So, strong rusher with speed and quickness, right? What’s not to love!

Well, if you didn’t know what Sweat’s timed athleticism indicated, you’d think he was an average athlete at best. There’s no bend. There’s no cornering ability. Not really any burst. Not much of a motor. Nothing special in terms of technique. He’s a complete athletic projection.

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He’s slow to turn into the QB. He’s rigid and uncomfortable coming off the corner. He let up well before the play was over. He runs like Shaq Lawson. I do not like Montez Sweat at all in this draft.

But – some team will. His athletic profile is just that gaudy that some team is going to overdraft him and hope that they can harness it into an elite Edge Rusher. And maybe they can – hell, the Giants did it with JPP once. But I think that’s the exception. Montez Sweat reminds me of Josh Sweat from last year (not sure if there’s any relation). Despite what the metrics suggest, they just aren’t overly impressive on the field going after the QB. So yeah, I totally think this is a Gettleman move. I don’t think they are going to draft a QB this year either. Eli’s time to shine, baby!


7. JACKSONVILLE selects TJ Hockenson, TE, Iowa

This is a tough one to predict, as Jacksonville can go in a lot of different ways. But as teams suddenly start to remember how valuable do-it-all tight ends can be, why not take one if you’re a team like Jacksonville with a lot of holes to address offensively?

Hockenson is a 5-star TE prospect just like OJ Howard was. He can block very well (though some of the hype is getting a tad ridiculous – he’s not a left tackle), and to me he often actually looks more explosive as a receiver than Noah Fant. Tight ends that are instant mismatches the moment they step onto the field are so rare and valuable, so I don’t think 7th overall is too high to take one.


8. DETROIT selects Greedy Williams, CB, LSU

It seems like the city of Detroit has needed a corner for almost as long as it’s needed functioning infrastructure, so once again I’ll mock one to them in the first.


Greedy Williams is a big, rangy, ballhawkish, athletic specimen of a corner who is going to get taken in spite of some red flags that might push down lesser corners. His technique is often poor and just looks lazy off the snap – if he had Denzel Ward’s feet we’d arrest him because that would be an awful crime. Jk jk if he had Ward’s feet he might be an All-Pro lock. He loses focus at times and gets beat at the end of plays. But for the most part, he just overcomes the footwork issue and jogs alongside WRs, absolutely blanketing them. It is insane for someone this size to turn and run and change direction as smoothly as Tre’Davious White, but Williams does.

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He’s just like, jogging with those guys and blanketing them. He’s also got a huge wingspan to knock away deep passes and he finds and takes away the ball if you give him a chance. His tape isn’t quite as good as Byron Murphy’s, but he’s such a rare athlete who actually translates his athleticism to the field that he’s probably going to be taken much earlier.


9. BUFFALO selects Jawaan Taylor, OT, Florida

The Bills can go in a multitude of ways here, as the roster is not all that great up in Buffalo. They can absolutely take defense to keep that side of the ball strong, because if it is not strong, they will fuckin’ suck. Or they can help out Josh Allen – either with a pass catching option, or a blocker. (Dark horse might be TJ Hockenson if he’s available). I’m going to go the blocker route, as their offensive line last year was mostly devoid of actual talent.

Mainly, I really like their OC and after they dropped the dead weight that is Kelvin Benjamin – who probably got his name because he contributes absolute zero to your offense – they were able to scheme their undrafted scrub WRs open quite regularly, especially with Allen’s mobility stressing defenses so much and buying them time. Robert Foster may be a nobody but he’s fast and he got open deep so who cares what his pedigree is? Take the massive tackle and give Allen even more time to run around.

Jawaan Taylor is a massive, strong tackle who moves people like Ronnie Stanley but can actually move. Here he is (#65) pushing Kentucky’s DT into the Gulf:

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Don’t overdraft DK Metcalf because he’s fast when you need linemen so badly and a guy like Taylor is available. And I don’t think Buffalo will.


10. DENVER selects Drew Lock, QB, Missouri

Initially I had Denver trading up for Lock, but after taking Murray out of the top spot it just felt too forced, almost like Joe Flacco threw it. Also – the last like a million first round QBs that haven’t gone 1st or 2nd overall had been picked by teams that traded up to do so. Just seems like the current meta. Oh well. All things end eventually.

I buy the Denver/Lock stuff, and I can’t see how Elway can actually go through a full season with the current iteration of Joey Flaccs as his QB. He can’t, right? I don’t think he can. Prove me wrong, Johnny!

So the Broncos will take a QB here because, well, because they kind of have to. And the more I watch of Lock, the more I like him. The arm is exceptional – he just effortlessly flicks the ball downfield like a dart. His deep accuracy is generally really good. He doesn’t flinch in the face of pressure:

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He’s often holding the ball as long as possible, looking for a throw to open up. He’s like Ben Roethlisberger in that regard. I’ve seen him get compared also to Josh Allen for the arm strength and I can kind of see like a boring version of Allen where the big arm is there (but isn’t quite as good), the bouts of inaccuracy are there but not nearly as often, and the timed athleticism is there from the Combine measurements. However, with Lock, outside of the weird misses, he’s generally quite accurate (when set and when on the run). But, on the flipside, the athleticism absolutely does not show up on the field and he is no threat to run. I don’t know if this is potentially related to his seemingly slower processing before making throws. Maybe he just doesn’t like running. I know I don’t. Cardio is dumb.

The obliviousness to pressure is not always a good thing, as he often seems incapable of getting rid of the ball quickly almost as if he simply can’t process as fast as say a Tom Brady or Phil Rivers type (see above), but it’s worked for guys like Roethlisberger and so far to a degree Allen, though they may be outliers. I’d still take a shot on the tools that Lock has over trotting fuckin’ Joe Flacco out there, and he may improve these deficiencies as he progresses in the NFL.

One knock against Lock was that he put his numbers up against weak competition. And he did, but watching some of his bad games, he often got ZERO help from his receivers. They were awful. So it’s hard to tell how much is on the supporting cast and how much is on Lock (he certainly wasn’t blameless in those games, particularly v. Alabama).

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11. OAKLAND selects D.K. Metcalf, WR, Ole Miss

This is stupid and won’t happen but it hasn’t stopped me before. I don’t know…it seems Raidery. Even Grudenny. Big fast freak athlete WR surprisingly around at pick 11….why not?

The why not is because Metcalf doesn’t really seem to play receiver all that well. His routes are often weird feet jumbling, he’ll just kind of stop on comeback routes, he struggles sometimes to get by press coverage…all things that would seem to indicate that the impossibly slow agility times he registered at the Combine may actually mean something. Like for real, what the fuck is this Pac-Man shit?


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I’ve never seen anything quite that extreme. Justin Hunter and to a degree Sammie Coates – two guys that can’t effectively run routes and consistently get open in the NFL if they can’t just run in a straight line – are similar to this. But not nearly as extreme. Might Calvin Johnson look like this if he ran agility drills at his Combine? He might…but Metcalf probably ain’t Calvin Johnson. Calvin Johnson was smoother, he caught the ball better, he had better body control – I just don’t know if Metcalf is good enough at everything else to be a top NFL receiver. Now he might be – there are flashes that suggest that maybe he can – but I wouldn’t want to risk it. Sure, if you take Metcalf you aren’t drafting him to run curls but – with the exception of a few guys, NFL corners can stay with rigid fast receivers. Justin Hunter, Darrius Heyward-Bey types? Not a problem for them, no matter how fast they are. DeAndre Hopkins is an example of a receiver working out with bad agility metrics but nobody in the world outside of Cirque du Soleil has the body control that Hopkins has. I liked Metcalf at first, but the more I watch the more afraid I’d be to take him high.

But Grudes probably won’t. And I mean, they could certainly use a downfield receiver in that offense, assuming Derek Carr can regain the confidence to actually throw downfield again (he’s been ruined by that leg injury and sees ghosts). Put this awkwardly fast motherfucker in some spiked shoulder pads!


12. WASHINGTON trades with GREEN BAY for the 12th pick

WASHINGTON selects Dwayne Haskins, QB, The Heroin State University

Alex Smith has become Barbaro. He is done, unfortunately. Even if he weren’t in his 30s I don’t believe he’d come back from that, and if he did he wouldn’t be effective. So the Redskins need to start planning to acquire their next QB.

And if the draft falls this way? If the Giants inexplicably decide to go all-in on the late-stage Eli era? They have to go up and get Haskins, IMO. Yeah, they need a wide receiver, but without a QB what the fuck is a wide receiver going to do for you?

Last year, analytics/accuracy type stats had Baker Mayfield incredibly highly ranked relative to past prospects. And this year? Some have Haskins even higher. His numbers were absolutely remarkable and he checks just about every box you look for in a traditional drop-back style QB. He’s got a good arm, he makes good decisions, he fits the ball into tight windows, he throws WRs open and hits them in stride to create YAC, he creates windows for them, etc. etc.

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But he’s got a few flags. One, which isn’t really his fault and not something that should be weighted heavily (in my opinion at least) is that he was only a one-year starter. That hurts him in a lot of statistical projections that take that into account, as there is not a large track record of one-year college starters coming into the NFL and having success. However, that may be a relic from an older era. Here are the guys taken in the first round since 2009 who were one-year starters in college:

Mitch Trubisky

Cam Newton

Mark Sanchez

There’s not really much of a sample size there to tell you anything. Sanchez was generally a bust, Trubisky is too early in his career to judge and Cam Newton has been a successful NFL QB whether you like him or not. I can live with this. Kyler Murray is going to be in the same boat but nobody is really talking about it with him.

Second flag is that Haskins panics a bit against pressure, though the more I watched of his the less convinced I am that this is a significant problem for him. He’s not Alex Smith or Derek Carr out there. He’ll occasionally just bail out of a clean pocket at molasses speed straight ahead or throw blindly falling backwards but it’s not a common occurrence for him. Another thing to consider is that Urban Meyer ran an archaic offense for him that looked like something out of a Madden playbook – all slants, a bunch of drags and crossing routes – that made things more difficult than they were for say, Murray or Will Grier. Teams also blitzed the shit out of Haskins, which lead to a ton of quick pressure and his only options were some slants to mostly covered WRs. Did teams blitz Haskins because of this or because of what they thought of Haskins? Teams will go after QBs that don’t handle pressure well and make quick reads, but I thought Haskins generally did this. But the offense didn’t really threaten them, and then that dovetails with Haskins’ third and most significant flag to me. He’s not a good deep thrower.

Short and intermediate, Haskins throws dimes. He’ll fit great balls into tight windows on the sidelines or over the middle. But deep balls? He’s just consistently inaccurate and leaves a ton of plays on the field. Against Purdue OSU struggled and Haskins struggled particularly with his deep ball and against pressure, which Purdue ratcheted up and OSU had no counter for. I couldn’t GIF that game because the video was too long but many of this deep balls are just woefully off target.

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Can he improve this? I think so. He was after all only a one year starter. Teddy Bridgewater was somewhat similar in his skillset to Haskins (plus some speed and minus the arm), and he struggled going deep downfield early in his career. But word was that he worked on this and greatly improved it aaaaaaand then he shredded every ligament in his knee taking a snap. Considering the offense and his inexperience, Haskins’ season was very impressive and I think he should go higher than this, but I think he’ll slide a bit. Looking at the Purdue game, he really wasn’t all that bad outside of a few plays. It wasn’t a meltdown by any stretch. And he’s the last QB left in this draft, at least as a first round option. Daniel Jones can’t hit anything further than 10 yards downfield and melts down at a hint of pressure. Brett Rypien floats the ball around, also panics and every 5th play throws the ball right at a defender. Tyree Jackson takes 10 seconds to windup and throw the ball. Gardner Minshew is a type of fish you can buy at an exotic market. Maybe Will Grier if his arm is strong enough can have some NFL success, but to me, there’s three guys this year if you need a QB. And the Redskins need a QB, so they should go up and get the last one left.


13. OAKLAND trades with MIAMI for the 13th pick


OAKLAND selects Josh Allen, EDGE, Kentucky


This is already stupid and not going to happen. Oakland isn’t going to turn the 4th, 24th and 27th picks into the 11th, 13th, Bengals first in 2020 and Bengals mid-rounders. And Josh Allen is most likely going to be long-gone here (probably even to the Raiders at 4th overall). But:


• I think the Dolphins will (or at least should) trade out of this spot. They are clear about their intent to tear the whole thing down so why not get some more picks?


• I don’t see all the top-5 pick stuff with Allen. I just don’t. He has his moments, and he’s a great athlete, but so many of his sacks are unblocked or coverage/chasedown sacks. He doesn’t beat a tackle one-on-one all that often. It certainly happens and he was really good against Missouri, but it’s not a consistent thing like it is with Burns and Bosa.


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This doesn’t mean I think that Allen is bad, I just don’t think I’d want to spend a top 15 pick on a guy who mostly wins like that. And he is relentless.


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That’s a first round play. He’s also particularly good with inside moves.


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But I don’t think he does it enough to project as a star in the NFL. He’s too often handled pretty easily by one guy if he doesn’t blow right by the tackle.


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I don’t know. There’s got to be a reason he’s projected as a lock top 5 pick. Maybe I just don’t like Josh Allens. Kentucky also used him a ton in coverage or as an edge run defender, so he’s a great fit for a 3-4 team. And a ton of college tackles say he was their least favorite player to play against. I just don’t think the consistency is there to warrant a top-10 pick.


14. ATLANTA selects Rashan Gary, DT/EDGE, Michigan


It’s almost universally set in stone to mock Ed Oliver to the Falcons. And to put Rashan Gary in the top 10. Ed Oliver is such a rare athlete at the position that he’s likely going to go in the top 10 himself, but I’m buying the hype that he’ll slip and I also don’t see it when I watch him.


As for Gary, he’s the freak athlete without the production. But, in my opinion, this is because he was miscast at Michigan as almost like a 3-4 DE edge rusher. He shouldn’t be doing that. He should be wrecking shop inside. That’s what he’s good at, that’s what he profiles best as athletically, and that’s what Atlanta needs. I don’t understand why everyone considers Gary to be an outside rusher.



15. GREEN BAY selects Nasir Adderley, FS, Delaware

Adderley is one of my favorite prospects this year and Green Bay needs a centerfield safety. I don’t see Adderley lasting nearly as long as most people do – if you want him, I think you have to take him top 20 minimum.

He’s not the biggest safety but he sure plays like it.

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I know these are 1-AA opponents but I’ve never seen anything like that second play. He also has the range and ball skills to play single-high.

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He’s not quite Malik Hooker but Malik Hooker didn’t have a tenth of the physicality that Adderley plays with. He’s also got the bloodlines (Herb Adderley). I understand that the competition is a concern but 1-AA guys are not just complete scrubs or anything.

NFL teams have been devaluing safeties for awhile now and I don’t understand it. Earl Thomas made Seattle’s defenses go. Troy Polamalu and Ed Reed used to take over games from that spot. Stop throwing Chris Contes back there.


16. CAROLINA selects Andre Dillard, OT, Washington State

Carolina needs guys on both lines and in my opinion the best one available here is on the offensive line, though if this actually happens I think they’d take Ed Oliver. I don’t want to re-do my whole draft though, so suck it.

Dillard has incredibly light feet for a tackle, and he just effortlessly stays with defenders. He might be the best pure pass blocker in this year’s draft. I think he goes a lot higher than people expect him to. Peter Warrick also robbed him once, which is cool.


17. NEW YORK GIANTS select Byron Murphy, CB, Washington

New York continues their 5 year send-off to Eli and takes another defensive player. This one though I actually like. Murphy is aggressive as all hell, he’s like the Honey Badger playing corner. He has great technique, great change of direction ability, and he is a ballhawk.

So why’s he falling to 17? Well, he ran a slowish 40 and he’s not very big. That’s great – Eli Apple was pretty big for a corner and ran a good 40. Maybe go in the other direction this time. Murphy is going to be a really, really good corner for the Giants for a few years until they trade him for a 2nd rounder.


18. MINNESOTA selects Cody Ford, OT, Oklahoma


If Minnesota doesn’t take an offensive lineman this year, then the franchise should be moved. This team has had a good line one year of the past like 5 or so, and in that year they went to the NFCCG with a scrub QB. Keenum was the Case that they gave us! So maybe address that?


I don’t like Kirk Cousins but that’s the direction they’ve gone in so you might as well protect him just a little bit. And there is no better way to start building that wall than to take a massive road-grader like Cody Ford. (Sidenote: there should definitely be a site called RoadGraders where offensive linemen just rate streets). This is the team that gave us Phil Loadholt! So go back and get another mastodon from Oklahoma and actually block some people every once in awhile.


Ford isn’t quite Loadholt – he can move a little bit. He’s projected to potentially be a guard in the NFL but Minnesota doesn’t just need one spot. They need an entire line save for their center. So in true Bryant McKinnie fashion, they should just start filling holes with anything that fits.



19. TENNESSEE selects Noah Fant, TE, Iowa

Noah Fant tested out of the building in Indianapolis. Well – he did the tests inside the building but you know what I mean. His blocking is often knocked but I think it’s just fine. He’s a fine blocker as an inline tight end. He’s not Hockenson but who is?

Tennessee can go in a bunch of ways but I think tight end is a sneaky need there. Delanie Walker (if he’s even still there) is rapidly declining and Mariota throws to him a ton. In theory I think this makes a lot of sense.

I just don’t see the explosiveness with Fant that I’m supposed to. I still think he’ll be good, don’t get me wrong. And he’s a better prospect than Eric Ebron, but Ebron is who I think of because with both of them, I just didn’t see all of the vertical ability that I expected to see. Maybe he’ll turn into a version of LaDarius Green who can block and whose brain hasn’t been melted by headshots yet.


20. PITTSBURGH selects Hakeem Butler, WR, Iowa State

I know that people are talking the Steelers going after Devin Bush – even trading up to get him – but I just can’t mock that. That is my nightmare scenario. Everything I read says it will happen if he is available. But I don’t want to do it. Hopefully I’m wrong and he’s awesome. Alright moving on.

The Steelers really need defense, but they also need a receiver now that Antonio Brown went nuclear and got sent ahtta tahn. Yinz don’t want tah reach for defense – why not instead go get thaht big kid Hakeem Butler ahtta I-wah State? If the board falls like this, this would be my preference.

And not just any receiver. There’s only one I’d want to take over Chauncey Gardner-Johnson or even Chase Winovich/whoever else is left. And that’s Butler. You just don’t see 6’6” beasts running sub 4.5, getting separation on deep balls and catching everything within 10 feet over DB’s heads. And when I say catching everything – I mean difficult catches, which Butler’s QB at Iowa State regularly created for him. The big knock on Butler is that he drops easy catches, and while it’s true, a “dropsy” WR is only dropping a few more balls a season than a sure-handed WR, generally. Butler is so good at everything else that I can live with the concentration drops.

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That shit is B-A-N-A-N-A-S. It’s all kinds of fruit. That shit is like melons or cantaloupes or something. Out of the slot (which he can do just as well as he can play outside), Butler just eats up the safeties cushion immediately and strides 2 yards past him effortlessly. His shitty QB decides to throw this ball to his 8 foot tall receiver downfield clear of the entire defense on a low trajectory, and Butler stops, jumps over the safety and catches it in front of him, throws the dude into the law building and strolls in for a TD. He might be able to fix Dwayne Haskins’ deep ball problem by himself. He also quite commonly blocks DBs out of the screen.

Another thing about drops – when they are measured over a season, they can be sample size outliers. Mike Wallace for one caught most easy balls early in his career, then he had a season where he dropped a ton, then it leveled out. Jerry Rice dropped a shit-ton of passes his rookie year. So I’m not even confident in saying that this is going to be a long-term issue with Butler. Everything else he does is awesome and I think he’s the best WR in this class. The only holdup I’d have is the seeming tendency for the best WRs in draft classes to come later in the draft. Looking at some top WRs, you’ve got Julio Jones, AJ Green, OBJ and Mike Evans as top of the first round guys who went on to live up to expectations. I’ll throw DeAndre Hopkins in there too. But other than them, you’ve got:

Antonio Brown: 6th

Keenan Allen: 3rd

Adam Thielen: Undrafted

Michael Thomas: 2nd, 6th WR off the board

Tyreek Hill: 4th, but of course that’s because he beat the shit out of his pregnant girlfriend soooo we’ll just ignore him for the time being

Davante Adams: 2nd round, 9th WR taken

Stefon Diggs: 4th

I don’t know if this is common, but it seems like the wide receiver position is full of guys outside of the top 3 prospects or so turning out to be the best players. And this year’s draft class is full of mid-round guys who have the ability and/or tools to potentially add themselves to that list. Still, I like Butler enough to buck that trend and I also think that the Steelers offense does not properly function without this component and they need to make sure that they have it this year.

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Re: Gunpowder's 2019 NFL Mock Draft Extravaganza

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21. SEATTLE selects Chauncey Gardner-Johnson, FS, Florida

CGJ is a “late-riser”, which generally means that he wakes up late in the mornings but actually in this case means people actually started watching and adjusting the meaningless lists that Mel Kiper puts out in May and the Yahoos and CBSSportslines of the world just run with. He’s a jack of all trades but he’s actually good at the trades, which makes him quite valuable. This past year he improved a ton and showed that he can indeed tackle people. He can play nickel corner quite effectively. He’s a good safety either in cover 2 or single high. He may not be the best at any of these but he’s a guy who can effectively do all of them. And with offenses creating advantages through personnel mismatches, that is something that I would value very highly in today’s game. Players like CGJ allow defenses to be more fluid in matching these packages.

So no he’s not Earl Thomas, but that doesn’t mean that Seattle doesn’t need safety help in a bad way and he’s a good safety soooooo yeah they should probably do this. They’ve become the Legion of Whom.


22. BALTIMORE selects N’Keal Harry, WR, Arizona State

Will Baltimore even like, actually address the wide receiver position? It’s like they tried one time, ended up with Breshad Perriman and got scared off forever. They can’t keep signing retreads and drafting 40 year old tight ends. Actually they probably can but humor me.

N’Keal Harry is in the Butler mold in that he’s a big receiver who wins at the catch point. And man does he ever win at the catch point. Every ball to Harry seems to be a crazy catch on the sideline over a guy’s facemask. 50/50 balls are 90/10 balls.

But that’s my problem with him. Every single catch, unless it’s a short slant or screen, is a contested catch. There is no separation. That was my problem with James Washington, who I didn’t really like even though he caught everything with a corner draped all over him. Is that sustainable in the NFL? I don’t think it is except for extreme cases. Michael Crabtree is like the best non-separating WR I can think of. It worked for Fat Kelvin Benjamin for a season but when you’re never open, you aren’t likely to be that effective. And Harry is rarely open.

His 40 time is fine for his size, but he didn’t run agility drills and perhaps there was a reason for that. I mean….this isn’t a route:

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This is a route at least but not a particularly good one:

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Yeah, it worked, but I’m chalking that up to awful corner play more than I’m crediting the route. Do you think Denzel Ward or Greedy Williams get fooled by that route? Hell, Greedy actually went up against DK Metcalf this year – another guy with shoddy routes – and absolutely locked him down. Metcalf had no shot against Greedy. Harry has better WR skills and body control/contested-catching ability than Metcalf no doubt, but I’d expect a similar result.

Harry to me is like Brandon Marshall or Juju Smith-Schuster, but those guys just seemed to get a LOT more separation than Harry does. He’s an amazing contested catch guy who is also surprising good after the catch, just like those two, but I don’t think that alone is the best way to make a living as an NFL receiver. Can he learn to run better routes to get himself open? Sure. A lot of guys do. But there’s certainly some risk there. In the touchdown catch above, the choppy feet are evident. Good NFL route runners make strong moves to get corners off balance and then use suddenness to get by them – these are NFL corners and some of the best athletes on Earth. They aren’t going to be fooled by some choppy feet. I don’t know if Harry has agility limitations preventing him from doing this or if he just hasn’t learned. A lot of WRs don’t and that’s IMO why the bust rate is so high at the position.

Finally, a lot of the new era QBs want to see guys open before they throw the ball, and Lamar Jackson is one of those QBs. Will he even throw contested balls to Harry as a matter of routine if he’s not getting separation? I don’t know. I’ve never bought into that “let’s get a jump ball WR!!!” trope because most QBs don’t want to blindly heave interceptable passes as part of their offense.

Now, I like Harry a lot more than I let on. He’s really effective after the catch, and he’s a monster at the catchpoint. I’d just rather have a guy like Hakeem Butler who can do all of that, and on top of it is also getting open downfield. But Hakeem Butler is gone and Baltimore needs a receiver and now that I write all of this out I think they go defense here and draft a receiver in the 2nd or 3rd rounds – or shit, even draft Marquise Brown or Parris Campbell here in the first – but I’ve already written out the draft order and made my GIFs (pronounced “yiffs” with a soft G) and I don’t really want to change it right now.

(EDIT: Harry ran agility drills at his Pro Day and they were just fine. I have no idea why he is so coverable).


23. HOUSTON selects Jonah Williams, OT, Alabama

Houston is like Minnesota. They are selecting an offensive lineman come hell or high water. Actually scratch that – high water already came through and they still need offensive linemen. So I’m just going to give them the highest one on a list in Jonah Williams.

I’m not the biggest fan of Jonah Williams, and I’m making him my annual Riley Reiff top tackle draft fall this year, but he’s still solid and the Texans will take that. I don’t think he’s all that great matching speed rushers but I thought similar things about Mike McGlinchey last year and it turns out he’s awesome so what do I know. I guess lines screw up my judgment. I’m basically Darryl Strawberry.


24. OAKLAND selects

Wait a second. I had Oakland trade with Miami. I think they’d probably have to give up both first rounders to do so. You know what? Let’s say they give up one of the first rounders, plus a 2nd and maybe another 2nd next year. Yeah. Let’s do that, because I already planned all of this shit out.

OAKLAND selects Devin Bush, ILB, Michigan

Devin Bush is supposedly a lock for top 20 and potentially a top 10 pick after he blew up the Combine. I certainly don’t see it. He looks like an average-to-decent ILB. His highlight tapes aren’t even really that impressive. I don’t think he’s all that good in coverage. He occasionally shoots gaps and makes stops in the backfield but it’s not like he does a ton of it.

Now, I often say that I think ILB block-shedding ability and ability to diagnose plays is overrated, because most ILBs don’t just stack and shed blocks on the regular – these are 300 pound guards who are generally going to move you if they get their hands on you – and a lot of college players don’t really read keys all that well. They are new at it. Good players sort through the trash and get to the ball more often than not. Leighton Vander Esch last year was an example of this – he wasn’t great at shedding blocks and he didn’t diagnose plays all that quickly, but once he did he AVOIDED blocks and got to the ball for the tackle. And I thought that was enough for him to develop into a good ILB. I didn’t think he’d do so this quickly, but here we are. Ryan Shazier was similar. But Bush, in addition to just not having nearly the same level of splash as those guys, often times doesn’t seem to even realize what sport he’s playing.

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That’s a two play sequence where first he just runs himself out of the play immediately, which, honestly, happens a lot, but in conjunction with the very next play, where he just kind of freezes while every single other player on his defense runs to the ball – the other linebacker actually passing him on the way – this is your first round ILB? He’s got a bunch of plays like this and I don’t like that in an ILB I’m going to take in the first round. He seems a bit slow or hesitant to process and ends up getting caught up in the mess.

The good? Well, he’s a great athlete, he’s got a great motor, he’s pretty good slipping through blocks if he reads the play well, he’s a good tackler, there’s definitely stuff about him to like. Here’s another misread, but this one includes a strong finish:

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I would draft Bush in the 2nd, sure. But I wouldn’t want to take a first round shot on that without a huge reel of explosive game-changing type of plays to counter it. Someone will though, and it will probably be well before this pick that it happens.


25. PHILADELPHIA selects Ed Oliver, DT, Houston

If I do a version 2, which I plan to do – if R. Kelly can do 33 chapters of Trapped in the Closet then I can do a few mock drafts – Ed Oliver will go much earlier than this. He’s simply too good of an athlete – his shuttle time from his Pro Day was faster than that of 10 cornerbacks during this year’s Combine. He did like 100 reps on the bench press. He also ate 47 hot dogs in 10 minutes and his WIFI achieved a 372.3 Mbps download speed. He’s ridiculous. Here he is pretending to be Bruce Lee:



So why isn’t he still a top 5 lock like he was before this past season started?

Well, one reason is because this happens like every single year. He’s an example from 2016, mocking the 2017 draft right after the 2016 draft concluded:

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It has Deshaun Watson going 1st. He fell to 12th. Carl Lawson is second – he went in the 4th round. (And perhaps Matt Miller was on to something as he’s been a steal for the Bengals). Brad Kaaya went in the top 5. Brad Kaaya! These early mocks are just best guesses by guys who have to fill the NFL draft vacuum before anyone has really even gone back to look at these guys in detail.

Another reason is that Ed Oliver wasn’t as impressive this past season as he was in 2017. However, I’ve read that he was hurt for most of this past year – shades of Stephon Tuitt – so that would be something that needs to be taken into consideration.

And the third and final reason is that I’m just a fake horse on Twitter who watches like 15 minutes max of most of these guys and doesn’t a) know what I’m doing or b) have a full frame of reference to compare these performances against. To me, Oliver is like Ryan Shazier in that while his highlight tapes stand out like Bill O’Reilly getting motherfuckin’ iced tea in Harlem, his standard game tapes don’t really show that same consistency. I didn’t see it like I did with say Aaron Donald, who was bringing it on every play and just wrecking shop. But it worked out for Shazier, and I think a team drafting much earlier than 25th is going to take a shot on the plays that go like this:

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The Eagles build their teams on the lines, and I don’t think the lack of a clear open spot would be enough to keep them from taking Ed Oliver if he were available. I didn’t believe the Josh Jacobs smoke even before they traded for Jordan Howard – I think they would do something like this before they drafted a running back in the first this year.


26. INDIANAPOLIS selects Jerry Tillery, DT, Notre Dame

I’ve already planned this out and written most of it – and it takes forever – so I’m not really apt to change it mid-stream. In this case, I’m considering having the Colts move up, maybe even trading with Miami, to get a falling Ed Oliver. They need some beasts in the front 7 in the worst way and Oliver would potentially go a long way towards addressing that. They also need some help in the secondary, but I think they’ll continue with the path they took on offense and strengthen the line first.

I don’t know why Christian Wilkins and particularly Jeffrey Simmons are getting more hype than Tillery. Wilkins looks like just a guy to me, and Simmons is like Robert Kraft in that he spends most of his weekends getting immediately blown off the ball.

Tillery, however, he’s the one that’s doing the blowing. Wait…uhhh what? Nevermind.

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“I AM THE ONE WHO BLOWS!” – Jerry GD Tillery

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I have seen a bunch of examples of Tillery just destroying offensive linemen – the one above is the first example I could find quickly because I apparently didn’t save a few of these GIFs when I first made them. He’s just walking the guard back into the QB’s lap and then showing the quickness and anti-Nkemdiche-an presence of mind to disengage and find the ball. This is a guy who is bring it every play and in this game really speeding up Stanford’s offensive process. He’s also really good at getting through double teams (this is where I think he shines the most over Christian Wilkins) and shows really developed pass rush technique and hands. He even has outside rush moves, though the interior moves are incredible.

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I’m just realizing that Tillery got 4 sacks in this game, which is more than half of his season total, so maybe it’s not truly representative of his ability. But he looks like a top 10 talent in that game and it’s more about pressure and disruption than sacks or tackles, and Tillery is disruptive and, uh, pressurey as hell. His athletic tests are good, too. He’s kinda like a version of Malik McDowell that has his head on straight.


27. MIAMI selects Garrett Bradbury, IOL, NC State

I think I screwed up the trading, but anyway Miami ends up with this pick at least. I think they are going to trade down potentially a long ways in order to secure a bunch of draft capital, as they are clear about this rebuild. This isn’t a standard Miami rebuild where they just get like botox and some fake tits. They are ripping this shit to the studs.

And the first area that sticks out to me as an area that they need to address is the offensive line. It’s killed their team in the recent years when they were halfway decent and they haven’t really done much to improve it. So they need like, do that. And Bradbury won the Rimming Trophy, so he should fit in just fine in South Florida.

Ed’s note: Bradbury won the Rimington Trophy, given annually to the nation’s top lineman. He did not win the Rimming Trophy, which is given anally.

Bradbury is a mean, dominant center who is also athletically elite for the position. I really wouldn’t be surprised if he goes 10 picks earlier to Minnesota.


28. LOS ANGELES CHARGERS select Dalton Risner, OT, Kansas State

I’m sure LA would like to add a DL or a receiver here, but the way the board plays out in this case the best weakness to fill would probably be at tackle. Risner seems to be the best tackle left.

He’s another aggressive lineman who looks like he wants to absolutely bury guys every play. He’s strong and stout when he gets his hands on a guy and generally stops them in their tracks – he dominated during Senior Bowl week, supposedly. But he also can get beat badly at times by speed rushers around the edge and lacks length for the position (like in his arms, you freaks). Remember earlier when Montez Sweat got into him and pushed him a few miles into the Earth’s mantle?

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Of course, Montez Sweat’s arms are about as long as a 2019 Kia Sorento and he has a tendency to do that to people. But RIsner handled him pretty well through most of this game.

Also, the top like 3 or 4 tackles so far have played Right Tackle. I don’t think it matters anymore what side the tackles play. Offense and particularly how the QB position is played have changed a bunch and the “blindside” isn’t nearly as much of a thing as it used to be, in my opinion. Also, a ton of top pass rushers line up primarily on the offense’s right side. Case in point Montez Sweat in the GIF above.


29. KANSAS CITY selects Jachai Polite, EDGE, Florida

Jachai Polite was a tough evaluation before he ran like a 7 second forty at the Combine. After that it became a question of, is he a bad tester? Why does he look so fast on film? Then it became known that his interviews went horribly, and not in like a team asking Dez Bryant if his grandmother fucked dwarves kind of way or whatever. So then it was a question of him even going in the first round (which probably wasn’t a lock before all of this). NOW he goes to his Pro Day, runs a 4.96 or something like that out of Jarvis Jones’ playbook, and hurts himself doing it. His defense was that he got fat to weigh more or something. So he’s probably going on Day 3 now. But I already planned this pick and made GIFs so it stays.

The Chiefs need an Edge guy badly. They let Justin Houston go and traded Dee Ford, leaving them with (looking it up) Breeland Speaks and Tanoh Kpassagnon. Hey, I liked that dude in the 2017 draft! Still, that’s like 3 combined sacks between them and I haven’t gotten the impression that these guys are locked in as the clear future at the position. So I’m going to have Andy Reid take a flier on a top pass rusher falling due to the recent event of “becoming borderline undraftable”.

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Well - I guess the celebrating during a live ball after the second sack isn't the best look, but that isn't exactly rare. I'll let it slide.

Polite is a guy unlike many I can remember in past drafts. His first step is ungodly, his burst is Peter North-ian, and he’s got a relentless motor. This is why his 40 time and interview fiascos were such a surprise – he was expected to test very well and his on-field performance suggested he was a high-character type of player. But when a tackle gets their hands on him, he’s pretty much just done. Like just done, right there. I can’t remember a guy with outcomes this extreme. It’s not due to a lack of effort – he will chase down backs and he takes on the run with aggression despite his small frame. I don’t know if it’s a lack of strength (recent developments probably suggest he isn’t a gym rat) or technique or both. But I can see – I doubt very much but I can see – a team like KC being enamored with the good and taking a guy at 28 at a premium position who a month ago they probably though would be long gone at this point.

Me personally? I would have had a hard time selecting Polite in the first round even before the Combine, because I think there’s too much of a chance that he’s just a complete non-factor against NFL-level competition. Now, after he’s shown to be im-Polite (hahahahahahaahaha LOLZ), I certainly wouldn’t do it. He’s so sensitive that Jan Arden would probably love him. But at the very end of the round? I can see somebody pulling the trigger and I’d understand it.


30. CAROLINA trades with GREEN BAY for the 30th overall pick


CAROLINA selects Chase Winovich, EDGE, Michigan


I know that Green Bay is all like “fuck you Ted Thompson” and they are blowing money fast, so they probably won’t trade down once, let alone twice. Well, fuck ‘em.

I’ve liked Winovich for awhile. His athletic testing was top-level, and I thought it showed on the field. He’s got the same relentless motor that most of this year’s guys have. He has good-but-not-great strength and technique. I thought he was probably the third best edge rusher in this class, behind Burns and Bosa. And Carolina needs to replenish that position.


BUT – I just found out he’s going to turn 24 this month. He’s a year or two older than most of the guys he’s playing against. That isn’t a be-all end-all – but it is a red flag. He not only has a bit of a physical advantage in college, but he also has less developing to do once he gets to the NFL.

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Now, Marcus Maye, Cooper Kupp and Eddie Jackson were all 24 when they were picked in 2017, and they are each awesome. Jackson may be the best safety in the league right now. Old Ass Mike McGlinchey was one taken in the first round last year, and we’ve established that he’s awesome. Ziggy Ansah was also 24 in 2013 and he alternates really good years with shitty seasons. But there really isn’t a huge track record of these guys coming in and being really good as pros. Since 2000, there have been 30 players taken in the first round who were 24 or older at the time of the draft. (I could look up their first season age but I don’t have time to be looking up a bunch of people’s birthdays and shit). They are:

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So of 30, you’ve got McGlinchey, Kyle Long, Dallas Clark, Terence Newman and Casey Hampton as being stud NFL players. Ansah is generally good and that was a weak year so he counts. Jason Babib was, eh, I guess alright, apparently Gosder Cherilus is good now as a guard, and Jammal Brown and Chad Pennington were useful for awhile. The Dolphins had to move on from Tannehill so quickly because he was so old when he was drafted – and being a late convert to QB on top of that likely didn’t help. Robert Gallery, the can’t miss tackle is there. Peter Warrick was 31st on that table – he turned 24 that June and just missed the list. Is this a bust-ier list than usual? I don’t know but it kind of looks like it.

So that’s the red flag on Winovich. Now I’m not so sure. But I do like him and I’d rather take him than a lot of the guys getting more press right now.


31. LOS ANGELES RAMS select Mack Wilson, ILB, Alabama

Just a few months ago, Wilson was considered a lock first rounder. Possible the number 1 inside linebacker in this year’s class. But over the last season people started noticing that he wasn’t really all that quick processing each play and was indecisive and slow with his first step. And it’s definitely there. Now, do I think Devin Bush is worse in this regard? Yeah, I do. But perhaps being inconsistent but decisive is preferable to Wilson taking his sweet old time. He also tested rather poorly, running a 4.70 at his Pro Day (which is generally adjusted upward a bit to level it to slower Combine times). So was he really this explosive athlete that people had thought he was running around backfields in 2017 or was he just another Alabama player elevated by his supporting cast? I’m not sure if he’s Manti Te’O but teams may want to do their due diligence and check to make sure his girlfriend is a real person. Maybe have that Catfish guy lend them that space-age “reverse image search on Google” technology that the entire show seems to revolve around.

The main reason I’m going to put Wilson at the end of the first while I didn’t think that Te’O was anything even approaching a first round talent are the ridiculous ball skills that Wilson showed at Alabama. He supposedly isn’t that great in man coverage (and the testing wouldn’t do anything to dispel that), but this guy is an absolute ball magnet in zone drops. He had six interceptions over his Alabama career, and they aren’t all just a bunch of tip drills or anything like that. Most are legitimately impressive plays on the ball. That really seems to profile well to the NFL level, and I’ll bank on a team like LA – who really needs off-ball linebackers badly – taking a shot on Wilson late in the first. Perhaps Wade Phillips can develop his processing a bit more. And there’s a really good track record on Wilson-Phillips.


32. DALLAS trades with NEW ENGLAND for the 32nd pick

DALLAS selects Darnell Savage, FS, Maryland

One, New England always seems to trade back with their early picks, so I’m just gonna make them do that again here. Two, there’s always a few guys at the end of round 1 who are real surprise selections, and Savage is going to be my guess at one of those guys. Three, Dallas needs a safety like Savage and doesn’t have any first rounders, so ol’ Jerrah may decide that he needs to do some wheelin’ and dealin’ with New England here, giving up say a 2nd and 3rd this year, a 2nd in next year’s draft and maybe jerking off Kraft a couple of times. Darnell Savage will be the fruit of his labors, and we all know that you can’t have fruit without seed.

I read about this guy rather late and was surprised how awesome he was when I took a closer look. This was before watching Dwayne Haskins play against Maryland, which is where I think a lot of people took similar notice. I mean, this is just ridiculous:

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He’s undersized so he’s not the most sure tackler, but it’s not due to a lack of effort. Savage flies around the field and goes after people like he’s 6’4”. And when he gets a head of steam behind him, he can do some damage. When he isn’t in the backfield blowing up stretch runs, he’s all over the place making plays on the ball. Size is less important in the NFL than it used to be – outside of Nick Foles, of course – and playmaking and pass defense has taken priority over power. Will the pendulum swing back? It might, and it might in rather short order if last year’s Super Bowl is any indicator. (Spoiler: it probably isn’t imminent, that was one game, relax). But even if it does, Savage can still play in that NFL. So Dallas moves up to try and get their Eddie Jackson, because the real Eddie Jackson will be like 40 by his 5th season.


OTHER PLAYERS OF NOTE:

Guys who I like but couldn’t get into the first round:

Trayvon Mullen, CB, Clemson: I think he might be the 3rd best corner in this year’s draft, but he’s being looked at as like a 2nd or even 3rd rounder. He’s big, fluid and makes plays on the ball. I considered giving him to the Chargers.


Deionte Thompson, FS, Alabama: Gambles too much and should probably make a few more plays on the ball but you don’t see single high safeties who bring the wood like this all that often.


Charles Omenihu, DE, Texas: Considered making Omenihu one of the surprise first rounders at the end but he just doesn’t show quite enough.


Josh Jacobs, RB, Alabama: Just don’t think he’s good enough to mock into the first at RB. Will some team probably take him there? Yeah.


Christian Miller, EDGE, Alabama: I think he might be a top 5 edge guy this year when all is said and done. I am mostly down on the edge group this year – there’s no real depth IMO.


Lonnie Johnson, CB, Kentucky: A better-covering Justin Layne at a likely discount.


Taylor Rapp, S, Washington: Just didn’t really watch enough of him to put him in the first. He looked good in small samples though.


DeAndre Baker, CB, Georgia: I think he’s fine but he’s not the best athlete and I think there’s fire to all of this smoke about his character.


A bunch of later round guys, some schools: Everybody has late-round sleepers and shit. I won’t bore you with them here.


Guys I don’t really like but a lot of other people do:


Jeffrey Simmons, DT, Mississippi State: This guy seriously looks terrible. I just absolutely do not get it with him.


Christian Wilkins, DT, Clemson: He’s fine but I’m not blown away. Will make some plays but is mostly neutralized from what I’ve seen.


Clellin Ferrell, EDGE, Clemson: I don’t dislike Ferrell, and he’s got some clear talent, but for some reason he just doesn’t seem to put it together. It’s almost like he finds blocks once he clears OTs, like they were pulling him back magnetically or something. Tough to explain.


Daniel Jones, QB, Duke: This guy looks awful and I have no clue what people are seeing. He’s accurate out to like 10 yards and always running around looking to throw an incompletion. I’ll be shocked if he’s even decent in the NFL.


Jaylon Ferguson, EDGE, Louisiana Tech: NCAA career sack leader but a non-athlete (NFL speaking of course – he’s a much better athlete than I am). Occasionally looks powerful and throws some people around but he’s mostly Jarvis Jones to me.


Amani Oruwariye, CB, Penn State: Seems to be mocked high because he’s big for a corner. I see Eli Apple without the athleticism. I have no idea why this guy is getting so much hype.


Justin Layne, CB, Michigan State: Very good tackling corner. Very not that good everything else-ing corner.
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Annnnd looks like the images don't work. Cool.

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This day was real shitty at work. This thread almost completely makes up for that.
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I really enjoyed the Chris Conte and Dillard's references, particularly so close together.
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This is awesome work. "The Legion of Whom" is great. As a Seattle fan though, for their sake please don't compare safeties to Earl Thomas, they won't be as good. Seattle fans are going to get a real rude awakening when they realize how bad entire current scheme is without ET. (For Pete Caroll's sake I hope he figures out a way to fix it) because the scheme they played during the legion of boom years was basically...ok 10 guys need to cover 65-75% of the field...ET's got the other 35% by himself. (no seriously look it up from people smarter than me who broke it down)
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DSafetyGuy wrote: Mon Apr 01, 2019 6:47 pm I really enjoyed the Chris Conte and Dillard's references, particularly so close together.
Fun fact: Actor Richard Conte, who played Don Barzini in The Godfather, is Chris Conte's grandfather.
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blundercrush wrote: Mon Apr 01, 2019 6:58 pm This is awesome work. "The Legion of Whom" is great. As a Seattle fan though, for their sake please don't compare safeties to Earl Thomas, they won't be as good. Seattle fans are going to get a real rude awakening when they realize how bad entire current scheme is without ET. (For Pete Caroll's sake I hope he figures out a way to fix it) because the scheme they played during the legion of boom years was basically...ok 10 guys need to cover 65-75% of the field...ET's got the other 35% by himself. (no seriously look it up from people smarter than me who broke it down)

I didn't. At any point. I did think Malik Hooker would be as good as Earl Thomas, though so far that is not the case.
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DSafetyGuy wrote: Mon Apr 01, 2019 6:47 pm I really enjoyed the Chris Conte and Dillard's references, particularly so close together.
Chris Conte will probably be in every mock draft I make until the end of time.
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Based solely on your analysis, I just posted on a Bills fan site that the team has to draft Jawaan Taylor.
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Pruitt wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2019 7:19 am Based solely on your analysis, I just posted on a Bills fan site that the team has to draft Jawaan Taylor.
Haaa here are my credentials:




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You can't be the first person to call Kelvin Benjamin "Absolute Zero", but you deserve a medal of freedom anyway.
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Every year, I hope that Patriots take a guy you wrote a lot about. Great Wilson Phillips analysis.
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Great read GPJ
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Gunpowder wrote: Mon Apr 01, 2019 2:34 pm... if he had Denzel Ward’s feet we’d arrest him because that would be an awful crime. Jk jk if he had Ward’s feet he might be an All-Pro lock.
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Ryan wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2019 7:28 am You can't be the first person to call Kelvin Benjamin "Absolute Zero", but you deserve a medal of freedom anyway.
Other than lacking speed, hands and an ability to get open, he's a fabulous wide receiver.
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EdRomero wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2019 7:28 am Every year, I hope that Patriots take a guy you wrote a lot about. Great Wilson Phillips analysis.
I have a weird feeling that if it's any of these guys this year, it's Jerry Tillery.
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Gunpowder wrote: Mon Apr 01, 2019 2:43 pm
DeAndre Baker, CB, Georgia: I think he’s fine but he’s not the best athlete and I think there’s fire to all of this smoke about his character.


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Gunpowder wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 9:01 pm Kiper has been awful the last few years.
Its pretty apparent that ESPN has marginalized him, too.
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1. SAN FRANCISCO trades with ARIZONA for the first overall pick.

2. ARIZONA selects Quinnen Williams, DT, Alabama
You don't get any credit for saying Nick Bosa will be good, nor for Quinnen Williams who still looks like he will be.

3. NY JETS select Brian Burns, EDGE, Florida State
Future DPOY. Plus 1 carrot.

4. CINCINNATI trades with OAKLAND for the 4th pick.


CINCINNATI selects Kyler Murray, QB, Oklahoma
I think I was pretty close on Murray but it's not like this was unexpected so no carrots.


5. TAMPA BAY selects Devin White, ILB, LSU
Not a surprise. No carrots.


6. NY GIANTS select Montez Sweat, EDGE, Mississippi State
Hated Montez Sweat but it looks like he'll be pretty good. -1 carrot. Currently even at zero carrots.

7. JACKSONVILLE selects TJ Hockenson, TE, Iowa
Too early to tell. Looks like he'll be good but tight ends develop slower than probably any other position.

8. DETROIT selects Greedy Williams, CB, LSU

9. BUFFALO selects Jawaan Taylor, OT, Florida
Have these guys been good? I don't hear their names much and I liked both a lot so I'll combine them into -1 carrot.



10. DENVER selects Drew Lock, QB, Missouri
Probably my favorite QB going into this draft, -1 carrot. -2 carrots so far.
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11. OAKLAND selects D.K. Metcalf, WR, Ole Miss
This guy is much better than I thought he'd be obviously but they do use him the way I figured you'd have to and teams eventually figured out they can keep him in check with two high safeties, so only -0.5 carrots for now. -2.5 carrots :(


12. WASHINGTON trades with GREEN BAY for the 12th pick

WASHINGTON selects Dwayne Haskins, QB, The Heroin State University
Had concerns about Haskins but not nearly enough. -3.5 carrots total now.

13. OAKLAND trades with MIAMI for the 13th pick


OAKLAND selects Josh Allen, EDGE, Kentucky
This guy is a star. -4.5 carrots.


14. ATLANTA selects Rashan Gary, DT/EDGE, Michigan

Not sure how to rank him yet.

15. GREEN BAY selects Nasir Adderley, FS, Delaware

16. CAROLINA selects Andre Dillard, OT, Washington State
No idea what these guys have done so far. -5.5 carrots.


17. NEW YORK GIANTS select Byron Murphy, CB, Washington
Neutral so far I think.

18. MINNESOTA selects Cody Ford, OT, Oklahoma
No idea.

19. TENNESSEE selects Noah Fant, TE, Iowa
Neutral.

20. PITTSBURGH selects Hakeem Butler, WR, Iowa State
Already on the practice squad of his 2nd team. -6.5 carrots. HOLY SHIT I NEED CARROTS GUYS
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EDIT: Great, accidentally edited this post away. Move along, nothing to see here.
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All told a -6.5 carrot draft. Pretty embarrassing for the Horse's resume.
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Jaylon Ferguson - 28 games, 4.5 sacks, 61 tackles, healthy scratches for both Ravens’ playoff games. Non-factor on the Ravens defense.
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Dalton Risner starts for the Broncos and is said to be among their top o-linemen. Give yourself half a carrot.

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Gunpowder wrote: Mon Jan 18, 2021 11:59 am All told a -6.5 carrot draft. Pretty embarrassing for the Horse's resume.
I've been relying on your draft reports thinking you are some kind of genius.
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Even if this gets me to -5 or so carrots I'm still a starving horse
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Which QB do you hate this year?
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mister d wrote: Mon Jan 18, 2021 1:29 pm Which QB do you hate this year?

I don't like Lawrence nearly as much as 99.9% of people. But, he's basically Justin Herbert so of course he'll be awesome I guess.


Lawrence is the kind of guy that Belichick holds to like 130 yards and 3 picks.
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Gunpowder wrote: Mon Jan 18, 2021 2:45 pm
mister d wrote: Mon Jan 18, 2021 1:29 pm Which QB do you hate this year?

I don't like Lawrence nearly as much as 99.9% of people. But, he's basically Justin Herbert so of course he'll be awesome I guess.


Lawrence is the kind of guy that Belichick holds to like 130 yards and 3 picks.
Sounds like he should have been a Jet.
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One throwaway line about Sam Darnold having some Jameis Winston in him is enough to award myself a quarter carrot
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24. OAKLAND selects

OAKLAND selects Devin Bush, ILB, Michigan
Didn't like him, he's been great. -1 carrots.


Nevermind. Devin Bush continues to be so aggressively bad that I want 100 carrots now. He is the single most blockable entity in the NFL.
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