2019 NBA Playoffs Thread

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Thu Jun 06, 2019 7:28 am

tennbengal wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2019 7:26 am
A_B wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2019 7:11 am If the series doesn't start until a road team wins a game, but then the other team wins a road game, too, does that mean that the series hasn't started again?
Feels like you are workshopping this for Golic and Wingo.

Whoo boy. I haven't listened to them since about two weeks, maybe a month after Wingo stepped in. I think he's awful.

EdRomero · Post by **EdRomero** » Thu Jun 06, 2019 7:46 am

Joe K wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 9:51 pm
EdRomero wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 9:17 pm "No need to foul so far from the basket!" Mike Breen says about Lowry fouling Steph Curry near the three point line.
Yeah, it’s easy to call those bad plays by Lowry but Curry has been hunting fouls this series more than I’ve seen him do in the past. He’s definitely using some tricks from the Harden/CP3 playbook.

The idea that you shouldn't play aggressive defense against the greatest 3 point shooter in history near the 3 point line is comical. I know they say stupid shit all the time, but that one bothered me a lot.

Joe K · Post by **Joe K** » Thu Jun 06, 2019 7:58 am

A_B wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2019 7:11 am If the series doesn't start until a road team wins a game, but then the other team wins a road game, too, does that mean that the series hasn't started again?

That’s probably my least favorite sports cliche. It’s amazing that the 2008 Celtics won the NBA Championship even though their first and second round series never started!

I think the current series odds (TO -120; GSW +100) are really undervaluing the edge the Raptors have right now. Their offense in Games 1 and 3 was good enough to beat even a full-strength Warriors team. Even if Klay and/or KD are able to return in Game 4, I’m skeptical that the Warriors defense will improve enough considering that those guys won’t be 100% physically. The Looney injury also really hurts at that end and he’s not coming back.

Giff · Post by **Giff** » Thu Jun 06, 2019 8:03 am

Johnnie wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 10:56 pm

They could've been staying in Sausalito where they might've taken the Golden Gate to Oracle.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Thu Jun 06, 2019 8:05 am

Joe K wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2019 7:58 am
A_B wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2019 7:11 am If the series doesn't start until a road team wins a game, but then the other team wins a road game, too, does that mean that the series hasn't started again?
That’s probably my least favorite sports cliche. It’s amazing that the 2008 Celtics won the NBA Championship even though their first and second round series never started!

I think the current series odds (TO -120; GSW +100) are really undervaluing the edge the Raptors have right now. Their offense in Games 1 and 3 was good enough to beat even a full-strength Warriors team. Even if Klay and/or KD are able to return in Game 4, I’m skeptical that the Warriors defense will improve enough considering that those guys won’t be 100% physically. The Looney injury also really hurts at that end and he’s not coming back.

Yeah, let the record show, I'm making fun of it a la the Le Batard show/weeekend observations.

L-Jam3 · Post by **L-Jam3** » Thu Jun 06, 2019 8:08 am

I can't recall ever hearing that cliche before. What does it mean exactly? That a Champ isn't a real champ unless they lose to a lower seed on their home court?

Post by **brian** » Thu Jun 06, 2019 8:11 am

L-Jam3 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2019 8:08 am I can't recall ever hearing that cliche before. What does it mean exactly? That a Champ isn't a real champ unless they lose to a lower seed on their home court?

Basically just that a team that doesn't have home-field (court/ice) advantage can't win the series until they win a road game, so the "idea" -- such as it is, is that the series doesn't start until the road team wins a game. But it falls on its face a bit when the favorite comes back and wins a road game or it doesn't apply to Game 7s though, etc. etc.

Joe K · Post by **Joe K** » Thu Jun 06, 2019 8:15 am

brian wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2019 8:11 am
L-Jam3 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2019 8:08 am I can't recall ever hearing that cliche before. What does it mean exactly? That a Champ isn't a real champ unless they lose to a lower seed on their home court?
Basically just that a team that doesn't have home-field (court/ice) advantage can't win the series until they win a road game, so the "idea" -- such as it is, is that the series doesn't start until the road team wins a game. But it falls on its face a bit when the favorite comes back and wins a road game or it doesn't apply to Game 7s though, etc. etc.

Pretty sure it’s just a dumb motivational ploy that Pat Riley made up when one of his teams lost the first two games on the road and he wanted to keep them from getting discouraged.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Thu Jun 06, 2019 8:30 am

Also, is Mike Breen just doing a years long Marv Albert impersonation?

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Thu Jun 06, 2019 8:34 am

I don't think its that bad. If the home team breaks first, it means they're looking at either three or four games to win just one more and if the road team does, it means they've flipped the location advantage (and home court/field/ice is b/w 54% and 65% in the three majors that play a series format according to 538).

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Thu Jun 06, 2019 9:01 am

And I also think it popped up when most of the series were set up 2-3-2, which meant there was a pretty big swing (mentally) if you could win one of the first two on the road.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Thu Jun 06, 2019 9:03 am

I am well and truly sorry I have brought this blight onto the swamp.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Thu Jun 06, 2019 9:10 am

A thread hasn't truly started until someone wishes they'd never posted in the first place.

Joe K · Post by **Joe K** » Thu Jun 06, 2019 11:48 am

This isn’t going to help the perception of Warriors fans as Silicon Valley assholes.

DSafetyGuy · Post by **DSafetyGuy** » Thu Jun 06, 2019 11:50 am

Joe K wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2019 11:48 amThis isn’t going to help the perception of Warriors fans as Silicon Valley assholes.

It's probably about 15-20 rows densely populated with assholes, then a lot of the longtime fans beyond that. The move to Chase will definitely increase the number of the former.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Thu Jun 06, 2019 11:50 am

Minority owner seems like it's a title that should have a better option by now.

Post by **brian** » Thu Jun 06, 2019 11:53 am

The guy actually being part owner of the team is just too on the nose.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Thu Jun 06, 2019 11:57 am

TT2.0 · Post by **TT2.0** » Thu Jun 06, 2019 12:33 pm

A_B wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2019 11:50 am Minority owner seems like it's a title that should have a better option by now.

In the Donald Sterling sense, all NBA Owners are minority owners

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Thu Jun 06, 2019 12:40 pm

DSafetyGuy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2019 11:50 am
Joe K wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2019 11:48 amThis isn’t going to help the perception of Warriors fans as Silicon Valley assholes.
It's probably about 15-20 rows densely populated with assholes, then a lot of the longtime fans beyond that. The move to Chase will definitely increase the number of the former.

Spot on.

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Thu Jun 06, 2019 4:05 pm

Spicy. Gotta love the drama. What possesses a man to just push and verbally harass Kyle Lowry? And in public in a stage like that? Fucking nuts.

LeBron weighed in, btw:

Joe K · Post by **Joe K** » Thu Jun 06, 2019 4:22 pm

Ryan · Post by **Ryan** » Thu Jun 06, 2019 4:48 pm

Now that he can’t go to any more games, he can finally answer all those casting calls for “Dad who cant hide his disgust over his high school senior son’s coming out announcement while the wife cries in general confusion”

Rex · Post by **Rex** » Thu Jun 06, 2019 4:55 pm

When will owners learn, you’re only supposed to fight your own former players in the stands.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Thu Jun 06, 2019 5:39 pm

Wow, seems harsh.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Thu Jun 06, 2019 5:44 pm

If mark cuban pushed a player he’d be on the rails the next day.

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Thu Jun 06, 2019 6:01 pm

Don't fucking cry for this scumbag.

He's worth $2.3B.

He also bought a 6% stake in the team for $50m and will probably get quadruple his money back on that.

Edit:

He's also going to buy remorse. Maybe the money he makes selling his shares of the team should be the donation he gives to Lowry's charity.

Edit 2: And if you're thinking "Damn, that would be harsh." He donated $50 million to USC.

Also, of course he went to USC.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Thu Jun 06, 2019 6:25 pm

I'm not considering how rich he is.

Forcing someone to sell their share just seems harsh on the surface. In addition to banning from games and the fine.

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Thu Jun 06, 2019 6:29 pm

Fuck. Him.

He put hands on a player. He should have been arrested.

Donald Sterling who said horrible words was forced to sell. The Jazz fan who said horrible words was banned.

The ownership group will force him out, I'm sure because this is fucking disgusting.

DSafetyGuy · Post by **DSafetyGuy** » Thu Jun 06, 2019 6:59 pm

Johnnie wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2019 6:29 pm Fuck. Him.

He put hands on a player. He should have been arrested.

Donald Sterling who said horrible words was forced to sell. The Jazz fan who said horrible words was banned.

The ownership group will force him out, I'm sure because this is fucking disgusting.

Agreed on fuck him.

He's not a regular fan with front row seats. He's an owner. Even as a minority owner, that means he is the NBA. Unacceptable. He makes every other owner, regardless of size of stake in a team, look terrible. I imagine every minority owner on every other team wants him out of the league, too.

If he was a regular fan, he would be banned forever.

DSafetyGuy · Post by **DSafetyGuy** » Thu Jun 06, 2019 7:00 pm

Also, "harsh" would be making him sell his shares with all the proceeds going to Lowry's foundation.

Joe K · Post by **Joe K** » Thu Jun 06, 2019 8:40 pm

Even without the shove, he was completely across the line in repeatedly telling Lowry, “go fuck yourself.” You sit courtside at an NBA game, the possibility of a player landing on you is part of the deal. Regina King and Tracy Morgan almost got decapitated by a flying Joel Embiid at MSG earlier this season.

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Fri Jun 07, 2019 4:41 pm

And the Bey-hive is fucking wildin'.

GSW owner's wife: Jay-Z chat led to threats

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Fri Jun 07, 2019 9:58 pm

Raptors BEAT the Warriors by 16 in the 3rd!!!!!
RU effing me??

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Fri Jun 07, 2019 11:08 pm

degenerasian wrote: ↑Fri Jun 07, 2019 9:58 pm Raptors BEAT the Warriors by 16 in the 3rd!!!!!
RU effing me??

This is inconceivable.

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Fri Jun 07, 2019 11:41 pm

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Fri Jun 07, 2019 11:43 pm

It’s impossible to know of course, but I wonder what kind of odds you could’ve gotten 10 or 20 years ago that a Canadian team would win the NBA title before a Canadian team won the Stanley Cup.

Joe K · Post by **Joe K** » Sat Jun 08, 2019 7:39 am

Toronto’s level of play and level of focus that last 8 games has been really impressive. I don’t view this series as that shocking: the Raptors have been really, really good all year and the Warriors are really banged up outside of Curry and Green. (Klay looked good last night but there’s no way Looney or Cousins would be playing if it were the regular season.) What is incredible to look back on is how close the Raptors came to losing to the Sixers and to going down 3-0 to the Bucks. They’ve been great in the Finals but had a very tough path to get here.

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Mon Jun 10, 2019 10:48 am

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Mon Jun 10, 2019 4:53 pm

Fans Have Camped Out Since Late Friday...

To watch the game outside the arena.

Beautiful weather all weekend, but it's been pouring all day here.

Streets are apparently jammed with people all over downtown.

I am dying here...