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I cant bet the under. Psychologically I cant do it.
I like offense too much, to my betting detriment. I don't know how you got through that. Attack after attack.
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Chile's keeper was stellar yesterday. Game could have easily been 8-nil without her efforts. And she was totally in Carli Lloyd's head on that PK attempt.

As for the US, had a couple of reactions:

1-Lloyd is really pushing for a spot in the starting line up.
2-Christen Press is FAST. She had a bunch of runs where she just blew by the defender.
3-I was impressed with how Ali Krieger played.
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This is some straight up FIFA skullfuckery being done to the Nigerians here.
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brian wrote: Mon Jun 17, 2019 3:36 pm This is some straight up FIFA skullfuckery being done to the Nigerians here.
This is what over sensitive replay has brought (in all sports).

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That was bad, but the whole game was bad right up to the French player not getting carded for that last trip in the 96th minute. Hard to trust FIFA in the slightest when it comes to anything having to do with the integrity of the game.
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brian wrote: Mon Jun 17, 2019 3:56 pm That was bad, but the whole game was bad right up to the French player not getting carded for that last trip in the 96th minute. Hard to trust FIFA in the slightest when it comes to anything having to do with the integrity of the game.
Which is weird because France was almost assured 1st place even with a loss. So why favor them here?
Or it's just racist to screw the Africans.
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Occam's Razor is that the refs were/are incompetent and not explicitly favoring France, but the stink of FIFA is hard to get off any tournament they have anything to do with.
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brian wrote: Wed Jun 12, 2019 12:08 pm
degenerasian wrote: Wed Jun 12, 2019 11:46 am I have nothing against running up the score, it's the World Cup. Heck Thailand is the 3rd tier team in this group and even won a match in 2015.
The last two world cup cycles, Thailand beat Vietnam for this spot in heart-crushing victories. I would have loved to have seen Vietnam get crushed 13-0 by the US, that in itself is an achievement that is unachievable right now.
I think that's exactly right. It's a massive achievement for a team like Thailand to even make the World Cup. They knew they were going to lose and really were trying to keep the scoreline as low as possible to maybe try and sneak into the round of 16 as a third-place team. I think it's a bit insulting to the Thais to insist the US shouldn't have tried to score*, especially considering that goal differential is the difference between a tougher and easier round of 16 matchups (something else that many are conveniently forgetting.).

Framing it as someone sort of "MURICA! FUCK YOU!" to the Thais by scoring as much as possible when Sweden would have done the same to them in the same situation if they had played Thailand first is stupid as hell. These are world class athletes on the Thai side as well, not some people that got plucked out of the stands and forced to play the big, bad United States. They knew what they were facing and they handled it with dignity. Honestly, the women's game is superior to the men's game in some respects not the least of which is that you have much less cynical play like you would have seen in a similarly overmatched men's WC game.

* For the record, not something I've seen here, but have seen from serious self-styled sports columnists, most of whom only deign to watch soccer every couple of years.
I know I'm super late to this, but most of this is kind of a straw man argument to what was being said in this thread. Universally stated in here that running up the score is not an issue at this, or any other tournament where GD is a factor. Anyone saying/writing this is being an ignorant asshole, and most likely being wittingly or unwittingly misogynistic, as you point out.

But I can tell you, as a goalie, you do that fucking dance on me when you go up 10-, 11-, 12-0... I'm gonna get a red card if given a chance on either a breakaway or on a corner kick. Someone on your team is going to get a cleat in the thigh or ankle. That's not idle internet message board bullshit... The one red card I received while in goal* was taking a guy out on a cornerkick after he did some bullshit corner flag dance after his team was up 10-0 already. And we started and finished that game with 9 guys. Fuck you, dude.

It just lacks class, period. And it's not some unwritten code or whatever. I have coached teams at decently high levels and I've been on both ends of that type of scoreline. I've NEVER had a situation where players go wildly crazy celebrating a goal while up double digits. It's just a bad look from a sportsmanship standpoint. Again, I have no issue with the Americans scoring 50 goals. But when the other team is so clearly outclassed, celebrating a goal beyond a few high fives is shitty behavior. And I'd absolutely say this regardless of the level of play and the gender involved.

* - I got a red card as a field player once, after a guy deliberately tripped me way off the ball and I was about to punch him in the face but put my fist down, but the AR saw it and I got the boot. Wish I'd just clocked the guy to get my money's worth. That team were a bunch of assholes.
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Nonlinear FC wrote: Mon Jun 17, 2019 4:01 pm
brian wrote: Wed Jun 12, 2019 12:08 pm
degenerasian wrote: Wed Jun 12, 2019 11:46 am I have nothing against running up the score, it's the World Cup. Heck Thailand is the 3rd tier team in this group and even won a match in 2015.
The last two world cup cycles, Thailand beat Vietnam for this spot in heart-crushing victories. I would have loved to have seen Vietnam get crushed 13-0 by the US, that in itself is an achievement that is unachievable right now.
I think that's exactly right. It's a massive achievement for a team like Thailand to even make the World Cup. They knew they were going to lose and really were trying to keep the scoreline as low as possible to maybe try and sneak into the round of 16 as a third-place team. I think it's a bit insulting to the Thais to insist the US shouldn't have tried to score*, especially considering that goal differential is the difference between a tougher and easier round of 16 matchups (something else that many are conveniently forgetting.).

Framing it as someone sort of "MURICA! FUCK YOU!" to the Thais by scoring as much as possible when Sweden would have done the same to them in the same situation if they had played Thailand first is stupid as hell. These are world class athletes on the Thai side as well, not some people that got plucked out of the stands and forced to play the big, bad United States. They knew what they were facing and they handled it with dignity. Honestly, the women's game is superior to the men's game in some respects not the least of which is that you have much less cynical play like you would have seen in a similarly overmatched men's WC game.

* For the record, not something I've seen here, but have seen from serious self-styled sports columnists, most of whom only deign to watch soccer every couple of years.
I know I'm super late to this, but most of this is kind of a straw man argument to what was being said in this thread. Universally stated in here that running up the score is not an issue at this, or any other tournament where GD is a factor. Anyone saying/writing this is being an ignorant asshole, and most likely being wittingly or unwittingly misogynistic, as you point out.

But I can tell you, as a goalie, you do that fucking dance on me when you go up 10-, 11-, 12-0... I'm gonna get a red card if given a chance on either a breakaway or on a corner kick. Someone on your team is going to get a cleat in the thigh or ankle. That's not idle internet message board bullshit... The one red card I received while in goal* was taking a guy out on a cornerkick after he did some bullshit corner flag dance after his team was up 10-0 already. And we started and finished that game with 9 guys. Fuck you, dude.

It just lacks class, period. And it's not some unwritten code or whatever. I have coached teams at decently high levels and I've been on both ends of that type of scoreline. I've NEVER had a situation where players go wildly crazy celebrating a goal while up double digits. It's just a bad look from a sportsmanship standpoint. Again, I have no issue with the Americans scoring 50 goals. But when the other team is so clearly outclassed, celebrating a goal beyond a few high fives is shitty behavior. And I'd absolutely say this regardless of the level of play and the gender involved.

* - I got a red card as a field player once, after a guy deliberately tripped me way off the ball and I was about to punch him in the face but put my fist down, but the AR saw it and I got the boot. Wish I'd just clocked the guy to get my money's worth. That team were a bunch of assholes.
So your psyche is so fragile you would intentionally injure someone because your feelings were hurt? That is more classless than doing a dance up 10. Just as those up in arms about the dancing and saying shit like "Act like you've been there before", act like someone has done this too you before and don't intentionally hurt them.
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Especially at the professional/world class level. I suppose it's one thing to take a swing at a guy in a rec league game, but I tire of this "code" bullshit at the highest levels of sports. Athletes can't have it both ways and expect to be pampered and coddled as elite while at the same time so fragile that their feelings are hurt because a guy stares down a 475-foot homer for an extra couple of seconds.
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We can just agree to disagree, because nothing you write is going to put you in goal where another team is humiliating you and your teammates like that. If you've been in that spot and tipped your cap, you are a better person than I. I freely admit it.

But if you haven't been in that spot, respectfully, you can call me a weak individual, but shit gets pretty real in that situation. You've got guys in MLB getting paid millions of dollars, and if a batter shows them up, you better believe it's kicking off a season and sometimes longer series of retribution* in the form of bean balls.

Those guys are so weak, too, I guess.

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It's not the Thailand women's team that are complaining.

It's former players, media etc..
A lot of people hate the USWNT and it was their chance to pounce.
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brian wrote: Mon Jun 17, 2019 4:19 pm Especially at the professional/world class level. I suppose it's one thing to take a swing at a guy in a rec league game, but I tire of this "code" bullshit at the highest levels of sports. Athletes can't have it both ways and expect to be pampered and coddled as elite while at the same time so fragile that their feelings are hurt because a guy stares down a 475-foot homer for an extra couple of seconds.
This was in a college game*, just for proper context.

And, as I just typed, you can call me whatever you want, but when the Irish temper gets going... There are professional athletes that routinely enforce these kinds of codes. I get that people disagree with these codes. I don't have an issue with them.

*ETA - Well, to be fair, it was an officially sanctioned game, but it was not a regular season game. Our roster got fucked up because of finals or a trip a lot of guys were on in the off season. Exact details are fuzzy.
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degenerasian wrote: Mon Jun 17, 2019 4:26 pm It's not the Thailand women's team that are complaining.

It's former players, media etc..
A lot of people hate the USWNT and it was their chance to pounce.
Well, I for one love the women's team and have actively and passionately rooted for them and will continue to do so.

But it's not beyond reason to call them out for poor sportsmanship. (again, very specifically about hamming it up while up double digits, not scoring a bunch of goals in a GD-defined tournament.)
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Swinging on a guy is too much but the code helps the players control their own game. Goes on in all sports and preventing excessive celebration is only a small part. You look back for a sign guess what. You hit my qb late or cut my knees... Guess what. Hockey goes without saying. Hoops not so much cause they're generally a bunch of soft whiners these days. Was at a high school soccer playoff game about a month ago. Semi-talented kid makes a couple miss then dives to get a kick. Possession changes, guy gets put on his head on a very very late slide tackle. Ref gives the compulsory yellow. Everyone in the park knew the deal.
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Imagine the reaction of the FOX panel if any Thai player had retaliated in any way.
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degenerasian wrote: Mon Jun 17, 2019 5:23 pm Imagine the reaction of the FOX panel if any Thai player had retaliated in any way.
I can guarantee you that Lalas fucked somebody up in his days for talking shit or showing up his GK. There is a special bond with your central defenders, we take that shit seriously.
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Nonlinear FC wrote: Mon Jun 17, 2019 7:18 pm
degenerasian wrote: Mon Jun 17, 2019 5:23 pm Imagine the reaction of the FOX panel if any Thai player had retaliated in any way.
I can guarantee you that Lalas fucked somebody up in his days for talking shit or showing up his GK. There is a special bond with your central defenders, we take that shit seriously.
You’re probably right. Because Lalas was on a bunch of teams that got their asses kicked.
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Nonlinear FC wrote: Mon Jun 17, 2019 7:18 pmThere is a special bond with your central defenders, we take that shit seriously.
More seriously than preventing goals, it would seem ; P
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Nonlinear FC wrote: Mon Jun 17, 2019 4:23 pm You've got guys in MLB getting paid millions of dollars, and if a batter shows them up, you better believe it's kicking off a season and sometimes longer series of retribution* in the form of bean balls.

Those guys are so weak, too, I guess.
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I'll take the hit on this one. I know it's immature and all that. There's never going to be a logical explanation for "the code" in any sport and I know it sounds foolish.

There's something about fucking with the general morale of sportsmanship that flips a switch for me. You are beating the shit out of a clearly overmatched team, showboating and humiliating that team even further really pisses me off.

I know it's not an excuse for fucking someone up, but that's where things can go when you push people past a certain point.

(And, no offense to anyone in particular, but the high horse stuff is kind of annoying. I guess none of you guys have been in a situation where someone said or did something that made you want to throw hands? That seems a little far-fetched to me.)
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(And, no offense to anyone in particular, but the high horse stuff is kind of annoying. I guess none of you guys have been in a situation where someone said or did something that made you want to throw hands? That seems a little far-fetched to me.)
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Nonlinear FC wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2019 8:48 am I'll take the hit on this one. I know it's immature and all that. There's never going to be a logical explanation for "the code" in any sport and I know it sounds foolish.

There's something about fucking with the general morale of sportsmanship that flips a switch for me. You are beating the shit out of a clearly overmatched team, showboating and humiliating that team even further really pisses me off.

I know it's not an excuse for fucking someone up, but that's where things can go when you push people past a certain point.

(And, no offense to anyone in particular, but the high horse stuff is kind of annoying. I guess none of you guys have been in a situation where someone said or did something that made you want to throw hands? That seems a little far-fetched to me.)
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Giff wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:01 am
(And, no offense to anyone in particular, but the high horse stuff is kind of annoying. I guess none of you guys have been in a situation where someone said or did something that made you want to throw hands? That seems a little far-fetched to me.)
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I don't really think it's a straw man argument to point out that fouling someone in retaliation for showboating after scoring a goal while up double digits isn't some unthinkable act of brutality. It's a pretty natural reaction and people getting high and mighty about it should spend at least a few seconds self-reflecting on how they'd react in that situation.

ETA - But I do get what you're saying. I just think some of the responses are a little divorced from the reality of the situation. I'm just saying that a retaliation foul isn't something that's wildly out of bounds in most sports. It happens all the time. I don't really distinguish between a retaliatory foul after a guy has been throwing himself all over the field and the ref isn't calling it and someone getting a thumping after they do a choreographed dance after scoring while already up 11-0. I understand that people think there's a distinction. My post really is just trying to get people to think more about the reality of the situation for the people involved. Most people have a breaking point.
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The strawman is saying my side of the argument is that having the feeling itself is wrong. I get the human nature of wanting to retaliate at someone who is "disrespectful" to you. But if you're a grown ass man making millions of dollars to throw and/or hit a ball, stop taking yourself so fucking seriously. And for the vast majority of us who aren't, we don't ever indulge those fantasies.
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Giff wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:24 am The strawman is saying my side of the argument is that having the feeling itself is wrong. I get the human nature of wanting to retaliate at someone who is "disrespectful" to you. But if you're a grown ass man making millions of dollars to throw and/or hit a ball, stop taking yourself so fucking seriously. And for the vast majority of us who aren't, we don't ever indulge those fantasies.
Understood, as stipulated above.

I would say this, though: Go poll all these grown ass men in MLB and NHL, where the code stuff is most prevalent. They take this shit pretty seriously.* I just find it "funny" that so many people that haven't been in those situations take such issue with it, while the guys actually living that life are all about it. Doesn't necessarily make it right, but I think people should probably try to understand their reasoning a bit more.

People want to take fighting out of the NHL, but when you talk to the players and coaches there are unintended consequences that have nothing to do with attendance or TV ratings. And you'll never get away from retaliatory bean balls in the MLB because there's almost no other way to address beefs in that sport. People criticize these guys all the time for being childish, but they have almost zero perspective on what it's like to be in those tense situations/altercations with no real way to hash things out.

* - Yes, that's a call back.
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Nonlinear FC wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:32 amI would say this, though: Go poll all these grown ass men in MLB and NHL, where the code stuff is most prevalent. They take this shit pretty seriously.* I just find it "funny" that so many people that haven't been in those situations take such issue with it, while the guys actually living that life are all about it.
But its not "all major leaguers" or else nothing would never happen; its either a pitcher throwing a tantrum over getting hit or one of a handful of code-enforcing hall monitor assholes who (Bumgarner, Norris, McCann, etc) fit an almost universal profile. I don't know that's where you want to align yourself.

(If you stare down the goalie or hold up 10 in her face or something, that's obviously completely different. But it feels borderline condescending at this level to expect embarrassment over success.)
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Nonlinear FC wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:32 am
Giff wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:24 am The strawman is saying my side of the argument is that having the feeling itself is wrong. I get the human nature of wanting to retaliate at someone who is "disrespectful" to you. But if you're a grown ass man making millions of dollars to throw and/or hit a ball, stop taking yourself so fucking seriously. And for the vast majority of us who aren't, we don't ever indulge those fantasies.
Understood, as stipulated above.

I would say this, though: Go poll all these grown ass men in MLB and NHL, where the code stuff is most prevalent. They take this shit pretty seriously.* I just find it "funny" that so many people that haven't been in those situations take such issue with it, while the guys actually living that life are all about it. Doesn't necessarily make it right, but I think people should probably try to understand their reasoning a bit more.

People want to take fighting out of the NHL, but when you talk to the players and coaches there are unintended consequences that have nothing to do with attendance or TV ratings. And you'll never get away from retaliatory bean balls in the MLB because there's almost no other way to address beefs in that sport. People criticize these guys all the time for being childish, but they have almost zero perspective on what it's like to be in those tense situations/altercations with no real way to hash things out.

* - Yes, that's a call back.
So what is your opinion of placing a hit on someone for fucking your wife/gf/so? That is more disrespect than having someone dance in your face during a sporting event.
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I think there's probably a middle ground here and if someone does something that you think might be deliberate and could injure you or your teammate like a headshot in hockey or an intentional beanball in baseball or a late, hard challenge in soccer, then that's a little different than getting butthurt because someone stared down a long HR or celebrated the 9th goal in a soccer game a little longer than you might like. Guys who do the former stuff and who have to deal with some kind of retaliation I don't have a whole lot of sympathy for, but if you're retaliating for the latter -- in my opinion, at least -- you're just being a whiny baby and need to get over yourself a little.

To put it another way, if the other team is trying to injure you or your teammates physically, that's one thing. If they're hurting your fee-fees, then that's another and there's no real comparison between the two in my book.
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duff wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:43 am
Nonlinear FC wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:32 am
Giff wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:24 am The strawman is saying my side of the argument is that having the feeling itself is wrong. I get the human nature of wanting to retaliate at someone who is "disrespectful" to you. But if you're a grown ass man making millions of dollars to throw and/or hit a ball, stop taking yourself so fucking seriously. And for the vast majority of us who aren't, we don't ever indulge those fantasies.
Understood, as stipulated above.

I would say this, though: Go poll all these grown ass men in MLB and NHL, where the code stuff is most prevalent. They take this shit pretty seriously.* I just find it "funny" that so many people that haven't been in those situations take such issue with it, while the guys actually living that life are all about it. Doesn't necessarily make it right, but I think people should probably try to understand their reasoning a bit more.

People want to take fighting out of the NHL, but when you talk to the players and coaches there are unintended consequences that have nothing to do with attendance or TV ratings. And you'll never get away from retaliatory bean balls in the MLB because there's almost no other way to address beefs in that sport. People criticize these guys all the time for being childish, but they have almost zero perspective on what it's like to be in those tense situations/altercations with no real way to hash things out.

* - Yes, that's a call back.
So what is your opinion of placing a hit on someone for fucking your wife/gf/so? That is more disrespect than having someone dance in your face during a sporting event.
Wow, talk about a straw man.

I think my time on this board and my thousands of posts would build up enough credit that I'm not talked to like I'm a neanderthal. You seem to be taking this a bit personally for some reason. There are codes in sports that have nothing to do with how you handle yourself in everyday life.

To bring it back to a more reasonable analogy: You can slide tackle a guy and get a red card and not injure the player. I've also seen 3 separate times where a guy was pissed, went in very hard and snapped a guys ankle. Those guys should probably have been arrested. Same thing in hockey where you can slash someone in retaliation and go to the box. Or you can pull a McSorley or a Ciccarelli and probably should be prosecuted.

There are lines that shouldn't be crossed, obviously.
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Or you can throw at a batter trying to hit his numbers and hit his head or you can go for a message slash and break a dude's wrist. There's no justification for putting someone at physical risk over a little happy dance.
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brian wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:47 am I think there's probably a middle ground here and if someone does something that you think might be deliberate and could injure you or your teammate like a headshot in hockey or an intentional beanball in baseball or a late, hard challenge in soccer, then that's a little different than getting butthurt because someone stared down a long HR or celebrated the 9th goal in a soccer game a little longer than you might like. Guys who do the former stuff and who have to deal with some kind of retaliation I don't have a whole lot of sympathy for, but if you're retaliating for the latter -- in my opinion, at least -- you're just being a whiny baby and need to get over yourself a little.

To put it another way, if the other team is trying to injure you or your teammates physically, that's one thing. If they're hurting your fee-fees, then that's another and there's no real comparison between the two in my book.
And I think this is a reasonable position to take. I'm not trying to say it's "right," just that I don't have an issue with it in certain circumstances. And to muddy the waters even further, I think the MLB stuff is pretty stupid. You slide in dirty to second or take out the catcher on a play at home with an elbow, fine, I can understand retaliating. But flipping a bat or staring at a bomb... Retaliating off of that is dumb, I agree.

I can't really put a reasonable argument about why celebrating up 10 goals bothers me so much. I can understand you guys giving me some shit about it. I'll leave it there.
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I'm not wading into this, but I will note that the US team clearly pulled back on their goal celebrations in the game against Chile. I assume it's because they became aware of the controversy.
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sancarlos wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2019 10:21 am I'm not wading into this, but I will note that the US team clearly pulled back on their goal celebrations in the game against Chile. I assume it's because they became aware of the controversy.
You don't think golf claps were passive aggressive response?

Also there is a big difference between head shot, throwing at a head, trying to injure, etc. and just a good hard foul, foot stomp, little bit of extra on check to the arm or shoulders, slightly late body check, ramped up physical play (or a personal favorite shooting a ball/puck at the player).
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sancarlos wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2019 10:21 am I'm not wading into this, but I will note that the US team clearly pulled back on their goal celebrations in the game against Chile. I assume it's because they became aware of the controversy.
Which is a shame. Of course Lloyd has been there before, as has Ertz. They shouldn't let the talking heads make them second guess their celebrations. I would have turned it up to 11. Let those silly fucks on TV have a conniption fit about women celebrating.
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Lloyd was sarcastic as fuck with her clap; there was nothing pulled back about it.
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duff wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2019 10:45 am
sancarlos wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2019 10:21 am I'm not wading into this, but I will note that the US team clearly pulled back on their goal celebrations in the game against Chile. I assume it's because they became aware of the controversy.
Which is a shame. Of course Lloyd has been there before, as has Ertz. They shouldn't let the talking heads make them second guess their celebrations. I would have turned it up to 11. Let those silly fucks on TV have a conniption fit about women celebrating.
If you turn it up to 11, I reserve the right to see you to the training table. Nonlinear is backing off but thats garbage. This has nothing to do with women and calling me sexist wont change my opinion. Like someone said, this never happens in the mens game because they know the deal from a very early age. You turn it up, you get put on your ass. And come on, 13-0. If you dont see a problem with celebrating under those circumstances then perhaps you need to be taught a lesson your body wont let you forget.

If theres any problem its that it can be hard to impose the correct amount of pain. Hard tackle could be nothing or it could be the end of the year. Throwing at a guy could be a quick run to first (not as quick as Brian's guy) or Tony C. Still, so long as they see you coming id say its on them to defend themselves.
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wlu_lax6 wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2019 10:44 am
sancarlos wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2019 10:21 am I'm not wading into this, but I will note that the US team clearly pulled back on their goal celebrations in the game against Chile. I assume it's because they became aware of the controversy.
You don't think golf claps were passive aggressive response?

Also there is a big difference between head shot, throwing at a head, trying to injure, etc. and just a good hard foul, foot stomp, little bit of extra on check to the arm or shoulders, slightly late body check, ramped up physical play (or a personal favorite shooting a ball/puck at the player).
These best represents where I'm at. I'm not down with punching a guy in the face for celebrating, but if a high cross comes near him, I go a little harder with my knee up.
mister d wrote:Lloyd was sarcastic as fuck with her clap; there was nothing pulled back about it.
Yup, passive aggressive as fuck, and a bigger statement than continuing the types of celebrations from the Thailand game.
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HaulCitgo wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2019 10:59 am
duff wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2019 10:45 am
sancarlos wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2019 10:21 am I'm not wading into this, but I will note that the US team clearly pulled back on their goal celebrations in the game against Chile. I assume it's because they became aware of the controversy.
Which is a shame. Of course Lloyd has been there before, as has Ertz. They shouldn't let the talking heads make them second guess their celebrations. I would have turned it up to 11. Let those silly fucks on TV have a conniption fit about women celebrating.
If you turn it up to 11, I reserve the right to see you to the training table. Nonlinear is backing off but thats garbage. This has nothing to do with women and calling me sexist wont change my opinion. Like someone said, this never happens in the mens game because they know the deal from a very early age. You turn it up, you get put on your ass. And come on, 13-0. If you dont see a problem with celebrating under those circumstances then perhaps you need to be taught a lesson your body wont let you forget.

If theres any problem its that it can be hard to impose the correct amount of pain. Hard tackle could be nothing or it could be the end of the year. Throwing at a guy could be a quick run to first (not as quick as Brian's guy) or Tony C. Still, so long as they see you coming id say its on them to defend themselves.
Swing your macho dick somewhere else. Once again, if your psyche is so fragile you can't handle some celebration at the highest level, then maybe you need to seek out help. And I never called you or anyone else here out in my last comment. I specifically stated those silly fucks on TV. Let me know what channel you appear on (Barstool TV).
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