Man's Best Friend

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Re: Man's Best Friend

Post by rass » Thu Oct 10, 2019 9:41 am

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My bad, dudes. I'll just stay out of this thread as this is the second time this has happened. They're all good dogs.
I thought your initial comment was a joke. I was just making fun of you for backing down from bronto.
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Re: Man's Best Friend

Post by Pruitt » Thu Oct 10, 2019 10:32 am

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I don't understand why you guys take your dogs to the vet.
Considering how much ours costs I have the same question.
My vet will have his "technician" clip Izzy's nails for free. Nice, but I think the reason is to soften the blow of the bill.

Like her overpriced meds and $150 prodding doesn't sting so much when they throw in 3 minutes of a $15 an hour techie's labour. And yes, it is always itemized on the bill: "Nail Clipping - Technician: No Charge."
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Re: Man's Best Friend

Post by A_B » Thu Oct 10, 2019 10:47 am

rass wrote:
Thu Oct 10, 2019 9:41 am
A_B wrote:
Thu Oct 10, 2019 8:52 am
My bad, dudes. I'll just stay out of this thread as this is the second time this has happened. They're all good dogs.
I thought your initial comment was a joke. I was just making fun of you for backing down from bronto.
In hindsight, I assumed the chopped up chicken was cooked in conjunction with a normal human meal and given to the dog. But that's probably not the case.
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Re: Man's Best Friend

Post by Brontoburglar » Thu Oct 10, 2019 4:15 pm

A_B wrote:
Thu Oct 10, 2019 10:47 am
rass wrote:
Thu Oct 10, 2019 9:41 am
A_B wrote:
Thu Oct 10, 2019 8:52 am
My bad, dudes. I'll just stay out of this thread as this is the second time this has happened. They're all good dogs.
I thought your initial comment was a joke. I was just making fun of you for backing down from bronto.
In hindsight, I assumed the chopped up chicken was cooked in conjunction with a normal human meal and given to the dog. But that's probably not the case.
I just wanted to come to a swamp consensus on the definition of the word cooking

(the broth thing has worked the last two meals!)
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Re: Man's Best Friend

Post by Pruitt » Thu Oct 10, 2019 6:06 pm

Brontoburglar wrote:
Thu Oct 10, 2019 4:15 pm
A_B wrote:
Thu Oct 10, 2019 10:47 am
rass wrote:
Thu Oct 10, 2019 9:41 am
A_B wrote:
Thu Oct 10, 2019 8:52 am
My bad, dudes. I'll just stay out of this thread as this is the second time this has happened. They're all good dogs.
I thought your initial comment was a joke. I was just making fun of you for backing down from bronto.
In hindsight, I assumed the chopped up chicken was cooked in conjunction with a normal human meal and given to the dog. But that's probably not the case.
I just wanted to come to a swamp consensus on the definition of the word cooking

(the broth thing has worked the last two meals!)
I've met a couple of people in the dog park who do cook specifically for their dogs.

I'm not talking adding human food or broth to a bowl of dog food, I'm talking actual meal planning.

Dumb.
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Re: Man's Best Friend

Post by mister d » Thu Oct 10, 2019 6:47 pm

Brontoburglar wrote:
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I just wanted to come to a swamp consensus on the definition of the word cooking
Cooking means both some sort of prep work like cutting and then use of heat. One without the other isn't cooking. Unless you're grilling.
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Re: Man's Best Friend

Post by A_B » Thu Oct 10, 2019 9:03 pm

I hope all your dogs have bad farts tonight.
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Re: Man's Best Friend

Post by Pruitt » Fri Oct 11, 2019 6:12 am

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I hope all your dogs have bad farts tonight.
I blame you for how bad my office stunk when I walked in this morning.
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Re: Man's Best Friend

Post by Jerloma » Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:17 am

I live with a pitbull now. Not sure if you guys remember but the last time a pit was in my house, I had to punch it's tooth out. This one does absolutely nothing to change my perception.

Obviously it's not the dogs fault that she's an asshole. She's never been subject to any sort of Pavlovian disciplinary action her entire life so being an asshole is always positively reinforced and the dog just thinks she's supposed to be an asshole.

Like, in our study of canine behavior, we haven't really misinterpreted what growling means, right? Sure, one of you is probably going to tell me about some dog you had that used to happily growl when you pet it in a certain spot, but I mean would any of you laugh and think it's cute when your dog growled at someone or would you take action to try to change that behavior? If it's the former...that means you want an asshole dog, right?
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Re: Man's Best Friend

Post by mister d » Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:19 am

Feels like there's more here?
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Re: Man's Best Friend

Post by Jerloma » Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:26 am

I hate the dog living in my house. It's the bane of my existence. I immediately regret ever allowing this to happen.
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Re: Man's Best Friend

Post by BSF21 » Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:35 am

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I hate the dog living in my house. It's the bane of my existence. I immediately regret ever allowing this to happen.
Is this going to be a long term thing or just like a foster situation?
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Re: Man's Best Friend

Post by Jerloma » Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:50 am

BSF21 wrote:
Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:35 am
Jerloma wrote:
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I hate the dog living in my house. It's the bane of my existence. I immediately regret ever allowing this to happen.
Is this going to be a long term thing or just like a foster situation?
Indefinite. Owner has stage 4 cancer and moved back here from Vegas to go to MassGen because I guess the oncology in Vegas isn't as strong. She had to leave the dog in a kennel in Vegas because her Aunt wouldn't take it. I had an extra room I never used and the structure to support a dog, so here we are.
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Re: Man's Best Friend

Post by Pruitt » Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:52 am

Jerloma wrote:
Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:50 am
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Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:35 am
Jerloma wrote:
Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:26 am
I hate the dog living in my house. It's the bane of my existence. I immediately regret ever allowing this to happen.
Is this going to be a long term thing or just like a foster situation?
Indefinite. Owner has stage 4 cancer and moved back here from Vegas to go to MassGen because I guess the oncology in Vegas isn't as strong. She had to leave the dog in a kennel in Vegas because her Aunt wouldn't take it. I had an extra room I never used and the structure to support a dog, so here we are.
Well you may hate the dog, but you are doing a truly wonderful thing.
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Re: Man's Best Friend

Post by BSF21 » Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:59 am

Jerloma wrote:
Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:50 am
BSF21 wrote:
Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:35 am
Jerloma wrote:
Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:26 am
I hate the dog living in my house. It's the bane of my existence. I immediately regret ever allowing this to happen.
Is this going to be a long term thing or just like a foster situation?
Indefinite. Owner has stage 4 cancer and moved back here from Vegas to go to MassGen because I guess the oncology in Vegas isn't as strong. She had to leave the dog in a kennel in Vegas because her Aunt wouldn't take it. I had an extra room I never used and the structure to support a dog, so here we are.
Relatively young? Is the growling a resource guarding issue?

I know it's not the situation you asked for but with some support and training you might be surprised on what kind of growth you'll see. Again that's not guaranteed, some dogs are very ingrained, but they're smart animals and most respond well to redirection and positive reinforcement.

I'll echo Pruitt. You're doing a wonderful thing. Thank you for not letting that animal end up in a worse situation.
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Re: Man's Best Friend

Post by Giff » Tue Oct 15, 2019 10:01 am

Jerloma wrote:
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I hate the dog living in my house. It's the bane of my existence. I immediately regret ever allowing this to happen.
Hi there.

Mine's bad enough that had my wife and I been going through any marital strife, we'd probably be getting a divorce right now. No joke.
Muh.

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Re: Man's Best Friend

Post by Jerloma » Tue Oct 15, 2019 10:17 am

I know it's not the situation you asked for but with some support and training you might be surprised on what kind of growth you'll see. Again that's not guaranteed, some dogs are very ingrained, but they're smart animals and most respond well to redirection and positive reinforcement.
Yeah, that's definitely the problem. There's no "redirection." The dog just literally always get it what it wants. It's only purpose is to guard her and that's always done by trying to elicit fear in other people. It's always met with giggles and as long as the other people stand still nervously while it comes up to them barking and growling and let it smell them, after a couple minutes, they can pet it and then it settles down. In this scenario, the dog is always a good girl. But she's not. She's an asshole.

She puts the dog in the bedroom so my cat which it definitely wants to kill can come down and it just barks, and whines, and snorts like a bull ready to charge the whole time. Then when the cat leaves, she just immediately lets it back out. Always gets what it wants. Makes me fucking crazy.
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Re: Man's Best Friend

Post by BSF21 » Tue Oct 15, 2019 10:45 am

Jerloma wrote:
Tue Oct 15, 2019 10:17 am
I know it's not the situation you asked for but with some support and training you might be surprised on what kind of growth you'll see. Again that's not guaranteed, some dogs are very ingrained, but they're smart animals and most respond well to redirection and positive reinforcement.
Yeah, that's definitely the problem. There's no "redirection." The dog just literally always get it what it wants. It's only purpose is to guard her and that's always done by trying to elicit fear in other people. It's always met with giggles and as long as the other people stand still nervously while it comes up to them barking and growling and let it smell them, after a couple minutes, they can pet it and then it settles down. In this scenario, the dog is always a good girl. But she's not. She's an asshole.

She puts the dog in the bedroom so my cat which it definitely wants to kill can come down and it just barks, and whines, and snorts like a bull ready to charge the whole time. Then when the cat leaves, she just immediately lets it back out. Always gets what it wants. Makes me fucking crazy.
I'm really sorry for your situation man. You may want to look into local rescue that could look into rehoming it? If it needs to be a single dog/no cat home, it's obviously going to be nearly impossible to train any of that behavior out of it. Unless I'm misunderstanding and the patient is also staying with you?

Either way it sounds like it's not a good situation for your family or the dog. As hard as it is, you may have to have a tough conversation before something bad happens. Like you noted, it's no fault of the dog, it thinks it's been doing a good job because that's the only reinforcement it's ever had.
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Post by A_B » Tue Oct 15, 2019 10:49 am

It sounds like the person with cancer is living with him, so I don't think saying GTFO is going to work.
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Post by Jerloma » Tue Oct 15, 2019 10:57 am

Unless I'm misunderstanding and the patient is also staying with you?
Oh yeah...she lives at my house with the dog. Incidentally, the dog is absolutely fine when she's not around. I mean, it's dopey and needy because it's a dog, but not a complete asshole.
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Post by Steve of phpBB » Tue Oct 15, 2019 11:11 am

It sounds like you are living proof of the maxim No Good Deed Goes Unpunished.
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Post by mister d » Tue Oct 15, 2019 11:30 am

Somewhat related, our neighbors/friends whose backyard adjoins ours are hosting his cousin and her three kids (15-22) after they won the green card lottery out of Cameroon for “atleast two months” and probably more. And they have a new baby (2 months) along with two other kids. Filed strongly into the “far better person than I’ve ever had to be” category.
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Post by Jerloma » Tue Oct 15, 2019 11:35 am

Steve of phpBB wrote:
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It sounds like you are living proof of the maxim No Good Deed Goes Unpunished.
Feels more like Truman Show. I think it's Zoloft or bust at this point.
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Somewhat related, our neighbors/friends whose backyard adjoins ours are hosting his cousin and her three kids (15-22) after they won the green card lottery out of Cameroon for “atleast two months” and probably more. And they have a new baby (2 months) along with two other kids. Filed strongly into the “far better person than I’ve ever had to be” category.
Cold comfort, but at least in that situation I could occasionally soothe myself by remembering that fostering a family of African immigrants would surely piss Donald Trump, Tucker Carlson and all of the white supremacists off no end.
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Re: Man's Best Friend

Post by mister d » Tue Oct 15, 2019 12:12 pm

I get antsy on day 2 of having family stay over.
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Post by A_B » Tue Oct 15, 2019 12:15 pm

Do you have to watch the visitors while the neighbors are at work or something?
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Post by mister d » Tue Oct 15, 2019 1:49 pm

No, that's weird. I was just working off J-Lo's "being nice can be a burden" thing with a local example, not my own.
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Post by Nonlinear FC » Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:11 pm

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No, that's weird. I was just working off J-Lo's "being nice can be a burden" thing with a local example, not my own.
*raises hand as one that read this as somehow an incident you were suffering through*
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Post by Pruitt » Fri Oct 25, 2019 5:24 am

I'll be smiling all day thinking of this silly pup.

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Post by Brontoburglar » Tue Nov 05, 2019 1:54 pm

adding the tag because
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it's gonna be this week. fuck.
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Post by sancarlos » Tue Nov 05, 2019 1:55 pm

Sorry to hear it, man.
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Post by govmentchedda » Tue Nov 05, 2019 1:57 pm

So sorry, Nick.
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Post by rass » Tue Nov 05, 2019 3:18 pm

Sorry man.
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Post by L-Jam3 » Tue Nov 05, 2019 3:24 pm

Aw hell. So sorry to hear that.
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Post by Johnny Carwash » Tue Nov 05, 2019 3:30 pm

Sorry to hear, bronto.
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Post by brian » Tue Nov 05, 2019 3:39 pm

Sorry, just had my mother-in-law and a friend both have to say goodbye to their doggos last week as well. Only makes you appreciate that much more how much they bring to our lives.
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Post by BSF21 » Tue Nov 05, 2019 3:57 pm

Hugs and noggin' pats bud. I'm really sorry.
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Post by phxgators » Tue Nov 05, 2019 4:04 pm

So sorry to hear, Bronto.

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Post by Steve of phpBB » Tue Nov 05, 2019 4:07 pm

Shit, Bronto. I'm sorry.
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