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brian wrote: Fri Oct 11, 2019 10:24 am Why does it look like Rudy is wearing a yarmulke?
I've been staring at that, trying to figure out if it was a shadow...
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https://www.vox.com/2019/10/11/20909811 ... zars-tatel

This is... significant.
The case, Trump v. Mazars USA, is an especially significant one because it represents House investigators’ best opportunity to shake records loose from a president who’s offered maximal resistance to any attempt to make him disclose information that he does not want disclosed. The House committee seeks financial records that Trump turned over to his accounting firm, Mazars USA, and the firm has indicated it will comply with the committee’s subpoena if it is ordered to do so.

Trump cannot simply refuse to turn over these records because they aren’t under his control.
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His last gasp is appealing to the Supreme Court and it's anyone's guess what would happen there, but I'd suspect they're going to be leery of a ruling that would essentially make it impossible to investigate a president's financial misdealings. That said, I think it'll be closer than it should, probably 6-3 or 5-4 with Roberts siding with the majority. Thomas and Alito will dissent. Question is what Gorsuch and Kavanaugh will do. My guess is Gorsuch goes with the majority and Kavanaugh will side with the president.
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End of that article...
We do not yet know whether judges like Chief Justice John Roberts will follow existing precedents that support this investigation. Should Trump receive an emergency stay from the Supreme Court, that could hand him a victory even if he ultimately loses this case on the merits — as the Supreme Court may not decide the case for months or even years.

The fight over whether Trump is immune to investigation, in other words, just entered its end game. The Supreme Court will have to show its hand very soon and that will tell us whether existing law applies to this president.
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I find it hard to believe they would fail to rule for years on such an important case. It would make the Supreme Court a joke and even the conservative justices think too much of the institution to allow that. I suspect the Supremes would hear the case on an expedited basis.
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brian wrote: Fri Oct 11, 2019 1:38 pm I find it hard to believe they would fail to rule for years on such an important case. It would make the Supreme Court a joke and even the conservative justices think too much of the institution to allow that. I suspect the Supremes would hear the case on an expedited basis.
Another (less likely) option is that the Supreme Court doesn't even elect to allow the emergency stay Trump will request. That would be the equivalent of them saying they don't want to get "dirty" dealing with it since any decision would be seen as hyper-partisan. That option might appeal to Roberts especially.
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brian wrote: Fri Oct 11, 2019 1:41 pm
brian wrote: Fri Oct 11, 2019 1:38 pm I find it hard to believe they would fail to rule for years on such an important case. It would make the Supreme Court a joke and even the conservative justices think too much of the institution to allow that. I suspect the Supremes would hear the case on an expedited basis.
Another (less likely) option is that the Supreme Court doesn't even elect to allow the emergency stay Trump will request. That would be the equivalent of them saying they don't want to get "dirty" dealing with it since any decision would be seen as hyper-partisan. That option might appeal to Roberts especially.
I'm holding out hope that this happens - though I have so little faith in the Justices to stay out of political matters.

Either way, there's at least a couple of weeks before the DC Circuit ruling would go into effect (I think), so nothing is going to happen right away.
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Pruitt wrote: Fri Oct 11, 2019 3:51 pm

There are no words.
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This dude embarrasses me. If I were a journalist I'd be up in Republican's faces day after day saying "That guy represents America. That guy is the commander in chief of the armed services. That guy sets an example for military members. What would you do if a military member did that?" Every fucking time.
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This is how ISISes start so I wonder what Trump's ISIS is going to call themselves in 10 years?
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Not sure if random politics or here. So I'll go here.



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Gracious:

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tennbengal wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2019 8:22 am Gracious:

It sucks how badly we need assholes like this guy to help get rid of Trump. (And George Conway, and Bill Kristol, and Joe Walsh.)
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I know this thread isn't necessarily a "keep up to the minute" type deal, but a little surprised the Fiona Hill testimony isn't getting any run today.

The noose is tightening folks.
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Nonlinear FC wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:04 pm I know this thread isn't necessarily a "keep up to the minute" type deal, but a little surprised the Fiona Hill testimony isn't getting any run today.

The noose is tightening folks.
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Hill said Bolton, who instructed her to raise the matter with White House lawyers, even likened Giuliani to a “hand grenade,” according to two people familiar with her testimony. Hill also testified that Bolton wanted to make clear he was not involved and very opposed to what he described as the “drug deal” between Mulvaney, and U.S. Ambassador to the European Union Gordon Sondland, who were also involved in the effort, the people said.
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Hill said Bolton, who instructed her to raise the matter with White House lawyers, even likened Giuliani to a “hand grenade,” according to two people familiar with her testimony. Hill also testified that Bolton wanted to make clear he was not involved and very opposed to what he described as the “drug deal” between Mulvaney, and U.S. Ambassador to the European Union Gordon Sondland, who were also involved in the effort, the people said.
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Another big news day:

Trump launches diatribe against Schumer, Hoyer and Pelosi and they walk out of a meeting with Trump.

Trump's insane 9 October letter to Erdogan is released where he tells the Turkish dictator to "don't be a tough guy".

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At the moment, every dead President is rolling in his grave.
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Very Stable Genius at work here:

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brian wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2019 5:35 pm Very Stable Genius at work here:


At the moment, every dead President is rolling in his grave.

I may be old, but I remember a time when exclamation points were exclusively used by teenaged girls.
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I don’t know Erdogan’s command of the English language and its peculiar diction and syntax, but just think of the poor bastard that has to translate that.
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L-Jam3 wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2019 6:08 pm I don’t know Erdogan’s command of the English language and it’s peculiar diction and syntax, but just think of the poor bastard that has to translate that.
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Seems to forget the Turks already have one genocide on their bloody hands.
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L-Jam3 wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2019 6:08 pm I don’t know Erdogan’s command of the English language and its peculiar diction and syntax, but just think of the poor bastard that has to translate that.
Wasn't there a story of Japanese interpreters refusing to translate Trump, as they were ashamed of the horrific butchering of languages they had to endure?
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Pruitt wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2019 5:32 pm

At the moment, every dead President is rolling in his grave.
Look at the 3 guys to Trump's right...wishing they were ANYWHERE ELSE at that moment...
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So....bombing our own facilities? That sounds like a bad thing to me...
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The last time we had to destroy a US military base to keep it from falling into an enemy’s hands was probably Vietnam.
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DaveInSeattle wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2019 9:17 pm
Pruitt wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2019 5:32 pm

At the moment, every dead President is rolling in his grave.
Look at the 3 guys to Trump's right...wishing they were ANYWHERE ELSE at that moment...
Pretty sure the dude to his immediate right is General Milley, The Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. He took over in October 1st. He has 4 more years in that position.
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Destroying your own stuff and retreating. What are you? Russians?
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Shocker.
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Joe K wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 7:24 am
Shocker.
That will piss off Trump more than any strongly worded statements. Erdogan better be careful; Trump may come up with a nickname for him.
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That moment when you realize that your boss is nuts.

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