2019-20 NBA Season

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Re: 2019-20 NBA Season

Post by A_B » Fri Dec 20, 2019 8:39 am

Wait...there are THREE Antetekuompos in the league?
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Re: 2019-20 NBA Season

Post by Joe K » Sat Jan 04, 2020 1:03 pm

My Saturday morning hot take that only Giff will agree with: James Harden is significantly underrated. I don't think there's quite enough appreciation for the way that he can singlehandedly turn any hodgepodge of supporting players into an elite offense. Averaging 38.4 ppg while maintaining a 64.5% true shooting percentage, which Harden is currently doing, is outrageous. Different eras and all, but Jordan, Wilt and Kobe were all very far below that efficiency level in their highest scoring seasons.

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Post by wlu_lax6 » Sat Jan 04, 2020 2:30 pm

Isiah Thomas getting tossed last night was interesting. I think it as an okay call but a better ref would have taken a second and then made the decision. I think Thomas is trying to grab his hand and say whoops, but once he gets tossed there is no going back. The review shows a push but a bit of context may have calmed that one down.

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Post by teeteebee » Sat Jan 04, 2020 4:15 pm

Joe K wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2020 1:03 pm
My Saturday morning hot take that only Giff will agree with: James Harden is significantly underrated. I don't think there's quite enough appreciation for the way that he can singlehandedly turn any hodgepodge of supporting players into an elite offense. Averaging 38.4 ppg while maintaining a 64.5% true shooting percentage, which Harden is currently doing, is outrageous. Different eras and all, but Jordan, Wilt and Kobe were all very far below that efficiency level in their highest scoring seasons.
Crazy shooter. He hits insane shots.

But he’s brutal to watch play. He’s like a soccer player drawing “contact” and fouls. Perhaps it’s just me but the stuff he gets away is ridiculous. The three step drop like he’s a quarterback non-calls combined with the always in the act of shooting reactions isn’t an enjoyable brand of ball to me.
oh shit...

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Post by Joe K » Sun Jan 05, 2020 10:16 am


Kevin Love clearly is angling to get traded, but the contract Dan Gilbert gave him as a loyalty reward after Kyrie and LeBron left is going to make it hard for the Cavs to find any takers. He’s still a good rebounder and can shoot well for a big, but he’s not someone you want to pay $30M/year.

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Kevin Love clearly is angling to get traded, but the contract Dan Gilbert gave him as a loyalty reward after Kyrie and LeBron left is going to make it hard for the Cavs to find any takers. He’s still a good rebounder and can shoot well for a big, but he’s not someone you want to pay $30M/year.
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Post by tennbengal » Sun Jan 05, 2020 3:50 pm

On the off chance people missed this:


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Re: 2019-20 NBA Season

Post by Shirley » Sun Jan 05, 2020 5:54 pm

Joe K wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2020 1:03 pm
My Saturday morning hot take that only Giff will agree with: James Harden is significantly underrated. I don't think there's quite enough appreciation for the way that he can singlehandedly turn any hodgepodge of supporting players into an elite offense. Averaging 38.4 ppg while maintaining a 64.5% true shooting percentage, which Harden is currently doing, is outrageous. Different eras and all, but Jordan, Wilt and Kobe were all very far below that efficiency level in their highest scoring seasons.
He is amazing, but I'm pretty sure that if Jordan had played in modern times, he'd have had a better three point shot and would have taken a lot more of them.
Totally Kafkaesque

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Post by tennbengal » Tue Jan 07, 2020 10:37 pm

25 , 7 assists and 4 rebounds - 12 of 18 shooting. 10 in fourth. And he had this bucket on this move up one with under a minute to go:


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Post by blundercrush » Wed Jan 08, 2020 11:19 am

Also the rules allowed people to murder those guys compared to how James Harden is defended. Look I think he is really really really good. One of the greatest shooters of all time. The NBA should absolutely make changes that don't affect just him (2 fouls on 3 pointers) (widen the lane)

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Post by Joe K » Fri Jan 10, 2020 8:17 am

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Dangerous business letting KD have Twitter while rehabbing.



Theyre both right, though.

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Post by govmentchedda » Fri Jan 10, 2020 8:42 am

KD's skin is the thinnest.
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Re: 2019-20 NBA Season

Post by Joe K » Fri Jan 10, 2020 9:20 am

govmentchedda wrote:
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KD's skin is the thinnest.
Very true, but I enjoyed seeing him take shots at Perkins in that exchange. Perkins was at best the 8th or 9th best player on the ‘08 Celtics, so him calling out KD for riding others’ coattails to glory is like Luc Longley ripping LeBron for never 3-peating.

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Re: 2019-20 NBA Season

Post by Ryan » Fri Jan 10, 2020 9:40 am

Kendrick Perkins combines the words-to-meaning ratio of Kevin Garnett with the skill of Kendrick Perkins.

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Post by HaulCitgo » Fri Jan 10, 2020 11:15 am

Dude was nowhere near 8th or 9th best. Problem with stats guys is that they have no use for the things that win games. Garnett had the mouth but Perk backed it up. Granted ive got a soft spot for Perk but his injury was the reason those guys didnt win two titles, yet somehow hes ninth best? Those LeBronesque head games are reason alone to stay in school a while.

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Post by Joe K » Fri Jan 10, 2020 11:25 am

HaulCitgo wrote:
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Dude was nowhere near 8th or 9th best. Problem with stats guys is that they have no use for the things that win games. Garnett had the mouth but Perk backed it up. Granted ive got a soft spot for Perk but his injury was the reason those guys didnt win two titles, yet somehow hes ninth best? Those LeBronesque head games are reason alone to stay in school a while.
Which of these guys was Perkins better than: KG, Pierce, Ray Allen, Rondo, Posey, Tony Allen, PJ Brown, Leon Powe?

I’ll give you Powe, but no one else on that list.

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Post by HaulCitgo » Fri Jan 10, 2020 11:36 am

Posey, Allen, and PJ Brown

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Post by HaulCitgo » Fri Jan 10, 2020 11:37 am

Hell you could almost put Rondo on that list as a rookie

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Post by Ryan » Mon Jan 13, 2020 11:35 am

From The Ringer:

Since 2000, 120 rookies have taken enough shots to qualify for the True Shooting % leaderboard...

112. Kevin Knox
114. Dennis Smith Jr
117. RJ Barrett
120. Emmanuel Mudiay
Barely didn't qualify but would be tied for 120. Frank Ntilikina

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Post by mister d » Mon Jan 13, 2020 11:45 am

92. Caron Butler
93. Deron Williams
94. Rudy Gay
95. John Wall
100. Russell Westbrook
102. LeBron James
103. Jason Richardson
104. DeMarcus Cousins
110. De'Aaron Fox
117. Kemba Walker

OH BOY I SURE HOPE THIS ISN'T A PREDICTIVE STAT!!!
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Post by Ryan » Mon Jan 13, 2020 11:50 am

Yeah but they were on bad teams without each other to lean on

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Post by Giff » Wed Jan 15, 2020 1:02 pm

I don't know why tennbengal never pimps his team, but that was quite the performance last night.
Muh.

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Post by A_B » Wed Jan 15, 2020 1:10 pm

Giff wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2020 1:02 pm
I don't know why tennbengal never pimps his team, but that was quite the performance last night.
He's afraid if he talks about it it will go sideways.
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Post by Joe K » Wed Jan 15, 2020 1:25 pm

Giff wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2020 1:02 pm
I don't know why tennbengal never pimps his team, but that was quite the performance last night.
Yeah, the Grizzlies are going to mess around and make the playoffs! Sure they’ll probably get swept by the Lakers but at least we’ll get 4+ games for Ja to try to posterize LBJ or AD.

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Post by Giff » Wed Jan 15, 2020 1:46 pm

Not gonna lie, that was the most enjoyable Rockets loss in a long time.
Muh.

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Post by tennbengal » Thu Jan 16, 2020 10:08 am

Giff wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2020 1:02 pm
I don't know why tennbengal never pimps his team, but that was quite the performance last night.
I can't breathe. I told you motherfuckers about Morant.

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Post by mister d » Thu Jan 16, 2020 10:10 am

Might be the best dunk I've ever seen:

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Post by tennbengal » Thu Jan 16, 2020 10:12 am

I will take no Mister D interloping (I've had to travel the last two days mostly driving all over PA and couldn't really post until now), but in case anyone missed the highlights from the Morant supernova Tuesday night:

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Post by Pruitt » Thu Jan 16, 2020 11:41 am

Kid is amazing.
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Post by mister d » Fri Jan 17, 2020 11:55 am

Is the Pelican's total of five top 3 picks a modern record? Seems like it could be?
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Post by tennbengal » Fri Jan 17, 2020 10:17 pm

A better video of that - watch to the second angle:


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Post by Joe K » Fri Jan 17, 2020 10:41 pm

This was also a nasty play. Too bad the Cavs defender made a great hustle play to block the dunk and spoil the assist.

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Post by A_B » Fri Jan 17, 2020 11:25 pm

I see what you did.
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Post by Joe K » Fri Jan 17, 2020 11:42 pm

Also, those Vancouver throwbacks are pure eye candy. Beautiful jerseys for what was a terrible team.

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Post by tennbengal » Sat Jan 18, 2020 6:54 am

Every time they wear them this year it is a treat. And, yes, that play was one of the best almost plays I’ve ever seen.

1200 people from Murray, KY made the three hour drive to come to see Morant last night. Clearly a likeable person. I always wondered what it would be like to have some lottery luck at the same time that a potentially generational player is available - so far it is as great as I could have imagined.

Another angle on what JoeK posted:


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Post by Rex » Sat Jan 18, 2020 5:15 pm

Is Zion going to ruin the Pelicans’ chemistry?

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Post by HaulCitgo » Sat Jan 18, 2020 5:50 pm

Joe K wrote:
Fri Jan 17, 2020 11:42 pm
Also, those Vancouver throwbacks are pure eye candy. Beautiful jerseys for what was a terrible team.
I liked the black with neon red aqua trim

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Re: 2019-20 NBA Season

Post by A_B » Tue Jan 21, 2020 10:20 am

In their beatdown of the Lakers, Kemba walker got his first ever win over Lebron. 1-28 now. Seems nearly impossible, but the Hornets were pretty bad.
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