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Seems like a long way to go still...
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It seems dumb to me. Too much time has passed to do playoffs, now. Before you know it, it’ll be time for camp to open for next season.
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sancarlos wrote: Tue May 26, 2020 4:20 pm It seems dumb to me. Too much time has passed to do playoffs, now. Before you know it, it’ll be time for camp to open for next season.
San Jose has been eliminated since that dude in Wuhan decided to buy some bat, so not surprised to hear you say that, but the rest of us would like to see the playoffs. (The NHL has already said delaying the start of next season isn't a deal breaker. If they can finish the playoffs by the middle of September, take a six week break, then the regular season can start around the middle of November and the 2021 playoffs can start around the beginning of May. They could (and maybe should) knock the regular season next year down to about 70-72 games as well.)
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Well, it might actually help the non-playoff teams next season to do this, now. I imagine the players on some playoff teams will have some pretty dead legs come next April.

And, fwiw, being a hockey fan, I generally enjoy the playoffs even when my team isn’t playing.
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Everyone is going to get a 3.5 month break before the playoffs. Most teams will get at least another 2 months off and that’s even if they “rush” to start 20/21. I don’t think it’s unreasonable to try and do the playoffs over the summer especially if MLB implodes as it’s looking like. NHL/NBA might be the only game in town for awhile.
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I think season length and/or starting and ending months of seasons are the things we're going to see change among sports that do try to start back up. We can't think of the NHL as starting in mid-September if they try this.
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Giff wrote: Tue May 26, 2020 5:06 pm I think season length and/or starting and ending months of seasons are the things we're going to see change among sports that do try to start back up. We can't think of the NHL as starting in mid-September if they try this.
NBA has already discussed moving to December-June (regular season) permanently starting with 20/21.

My understanding of NHL finances is that they might not even want to start 20/21 until fans can attend even if that’s January 2021.
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Las Vegas seems like an obvious choice for one of the hub cities given the number of hotels there, right? Maybe Toronto or Chicago for the other one to space things out geographically. (It’s been many years since I’ve been to Toronto but Chicago certainly has plenty of hotels.)
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Joe K wrote: Wed May 27, 2020 9:23 am Las Vegas seems like an obvious choice for one of the hub cities given the number of hotels there, right? Maybe Toronto or Chicago for the other one to space things out geographically. (It’s been many years since I’ve been to Toronto but Chicago certainly has plenty of hotels.)
NHL will face a lot of pressure from the fans and players to have one of the hubs in Canada, so I'd bet on Las Vegas and Edmonton, both of which are new arenas. Two buildings on the west coast will help a lot for spacing games out for TV purposes as well since they can start a Western Conference game at 7:30 p.m. local time.
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brian wrote: Wed May 27, 2020 9:27 am
Joe K wrote: Wed May 27, 2020 9:23 am Las Vegas seems like an obvious choice for one of the hub cities given the number of hotels there, right? Maybe Toronto or Chicago for the other one to space things out geographically. (It’s been many years since I’ve been to Toronto but Chicago certainly has plenty of hotels.)
NHL will face a lot of pressure from the fans and players to have one of the hubs in Canada, so I'd bet on Las Vegas and Edmonton, both of which are new arenas. Two buildings on the west coast will help a lot for spacing games out for TV purposes as well since they can start a Western Conference game at 7:30 p.m. local time.
That'll be interesting. People complain about ice conditions in STL and Dallas during the playoffs. Be fun to try and keep that rink up when it's 110 outside. Probably helps that you don't have fans going in and out but still. Multiple games and trying to get that ice right is going to be difficult.
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My money is on Vegas and one other in the East, most likely in the US. I think the when and where hasn't been answered yet because the NHL desperately wants at least one Canadian city, likely Toronto. But, if the border is closed as it is currently, it'll have to be Chicago, Minneapolis or Columbus.
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BSF21 wrote: Wed May 27, 2020 9:56 am
brian wrote: Wed May 27, 2020 9:27 am
Joe K wrote: Wed May 27, 2020 9:23 am Las Vegas seems like an obvious choice for one of the hub cities given the number of hotels there, right? Maybe Toronto or Chicago for the other one to space things out geographically. (It’s been many years since I’ve been to Toronto but Chicago certainly has plenty of hotels.)
NHL will face a lot of pressure from the fans and players to have one of the hubs in Canada, so I'd bet on Las Vegas and Edmonton, both of which are new arenas. Two buildings on the west coast will help a lot for spacing games out for TV purposes as well since they can start a Western Conference game at 7:30 p.m. local time.
That'll be interesting. People complain about ice conditions in STL and Dallas during the playoffs. Be fun to try and keep that rink up when it's 110 outside. Probably helps that you don't have fans going in and out but still. Multiple games and trying to get that ice right is going to be difficult.
The ice was pristine during the SCF two years ago in June and that was with 18,000 people in the building. In an empty building, it won't be an issue at all. (The arena and ice-making equipment being completely new and using best possible technology helps.)
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brian wrote: Wed May 27, 2020 10:05 am
BSF21 wrote: Wed May 27, 2020 9:56 am
brian wrote: Wed May 27, 2020 9:27 am
Joe K wrote: Wed May 27, 2020 9:23 am Las Vegas seems like an obvious choice for one of the hub cities given the number of hotels there, right? Maybe Toronto or Chicago for the other one to space things out geographically. (It’s been many years since I’ve been to Toronto but Chicago certainly has plenty of hotels.)
NHL will face a lot of pressure from the fans and players to have one of the hubs in Canada, so I'd bet on Las Vegas and Edmonton, both of which are new arenas. Two buildings on the west coast will help a lot for spacing games out for TV purposes as well since they can start a Western Conference game at 7:30 p.m. local time.
That'll be interesting. People complain about ice conditions in STL and Dallas during the playoffs. Be fun to try and keep that rink up when it's 110 outside. Probably helps that you don't have fans going in and out but still. Multiple games and trying to get that ice right is going to be difficult.
The ice was pristine during the SCF two years ago in June and that was with 18,000 people in the building. In an empty building, it won't be an issue at all. (The arena and ice-making equipment being completely new and using best possible technology helps.)
Certainly not saying it can't be, but one game every other day on the surface helps. If they're trying to play multiple games on back to back to back days, it could pose issues.

But yes, it being brand new doesn't hurt.
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That's fair. But the NHL will likely have their best ice techs on site at the two arenas as well (as they would for the Cup Finals).
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BSF21 wrote: Wed May 27, 2020 9:56 am
brian wrote: Wed May 27, 2020 9:27 am
Joe K wrote: Wed May 27, 2020 9:23 am Las Vegas seems like an obvious choice for one of the hub cities given the number of hotels there, right? Maybe Toronto or Chicago for the other one to space things out geographically. (It’s been many years since I’ve been to Toronto but Chicago certainly has plenty of hotels.)
NHL will face a lot of pressure from the fans and players to have one of the hubs in Canada, so I'd bet on Las Vegas and Edmonton, both of which are new arenas. Two buildings on the west coast will help a lot for spacing games out for TV purposes as well since they can start a Western Conference game at 7:30 p.m. local time.
That'll be interesting. People complain about ice conditions in STL and Dallas during the playoffs. Be fun to try and keep that rink up when it's 110 outside. Probably helps that you don't have fans going in and out but still. Multiple games and trying to get that ice right is going to be difficult.
With no fans in attendance to complain about conditions, they can keep the temperature in the arena really cold to keep the ice conditions great.
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For whatever it's worth, Yzerman announces Wings will keep Jeff Blashill for the final season of his contract.
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mister d wrote: Tue Feb 18, 2020 5:16 pm I so so so badly want the Rangers to take advantage of this market and trade DeAngelo before he starts a podcast during a moment of racial crisis in America exacerbated by a pandemic
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I don’t know if I could stick it out if he gets a long term deal.
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The NHL keeps getting stuff right. I'm not used to this.

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Penny Vinik filed for divorce from Jeff yesterday. Could be catastrophic for the Lightning, Water Street (the $2B renovation ongoing near the arena), and Tampa in general.
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Quite the firing spree in Buffalo. Looks like the GoT red wedding episode up there.
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(New GM Kevyn) Adams made the phone calls announcing the firings, sources said. What a first day.

The Pegulas, who have overseen a nine-year playoff drought, have burned their hockey operations almost to the ground. Among the few people left are Adams, coach Ralph Krueger and the Pegulas themselves...

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That organization is a tire fire. The one redeeming quality is Krueger, who has management experience (in soccer). I suppose having Eichel and Dahlin is good too.
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I wonder how much the Bolts (and all other Atlantic teams) benefit by being in a division with Detroit, Ottawa, and Buffalo.
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Interesting point in today's daily espn podcast. A number of hockey players time their family plans for the offseason. A few players may have kids right as the training camp and tournament kicks up. Harder for hockey as some of these folks are intentional/cross borders and will either miss the birth or get quarantined for part of the return to play.
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govmentchedda wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2020 5:38 am That organization is a tire fire. The one redeeming quality is Krueger, who has management experience (in soccer). I suppose having Eichel and Dahlin is good too.
It's almost like shitty ownership is often a reason why pro sports franchises stink. Guess Pegula should be added to the list of Dolan, Sarver, Haslem, Snyder, etc.
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DSafetyGuy wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2020 8:55 am
govmentchedda wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2020 5:38 am That organization is a tire fire. The one redeeming quality is Krueger, who has management experience (in soccer). I suppose having Eichel and Dahlin is good too.
It's almost like shitty ownership is often a reason why pro sports franchises stink. Guess Pegula should be added to the list of Dolan, Sarver, Haslem, Snyder, etc.
Don't forget about Melnyk.
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govmentchedda wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2020 11:01 am
DSafetyGuy wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2020 8:55 am
govmentchedda wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2020 5:38 am That organization is a tire fire. The one redeeming quality is Krueger, who has management experience (in soccer). I suppose having Eichel and Dahlin is good too.
It's almost like shitty ownership is often a reason why pro sports franchises stink. Guess Pegula should be added to the list of Dolan, Sarver, Haslem, Snyder, etc.
Don't forget about Melnyk.
Admittedly, I don't know enough about the NHL at large to include their owners, in general.
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welp...
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rass wrote: Fri Jun 19, 2020 3:32 pmwelp...
(addressed in the sports coronavirus thread)
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I was talking about Auston with an “o”.
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I had no idea Jeremy Roenick wasn't in the HoF. I just assumed he was. Like if you'd given me 40 players who were active while I've been a fan and said check off the HoFers on this list, I wouldn't have even debated him.
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mister d wrote: Wed Jun 24, 2020 10:07 am I had no idea Jeremy Roenick wasn't in the HoF. I just assumed he was. Like if you'd given me 40 players who were active while I've been a fan and said check off the HoFers on this list, I wouldn't have even debated him.
I'm not sure if his stats merit inclusion, but in any case, I think he loses votes because of the Curt Schilling Clause, also known as the "I'm not voting or that asshole" clause.
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mister d wrote: Wed Jun 24, 2020 10:07 am I had no idea Jeremy Roenick wasn't in the HoF. I just assumed he was. Like if you'd given me 40 players who were active while I've been a fan and said check off the HoFers on this list, I wouldn't have even debated him.
First ballot for the Sega Hockey HOF, though.
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This was yesterday.

A loser of the qualifying round will receive a 1st overall pick. There will be a re-draw, each loser of the qualifying round has a 12.5% chance at it

8) Buffalo
7) NJ
6) Anaheim
5) Ottawa - Own pick
4) Detroit
3) Ottawa - via SJ
2) Los Angeles
1) placeholder team

Ottawa is just cursed, they had 2nd and 3rd chances, now picks are 3 and 5. Detroit had best chance and could get neither of the first 3 picks.
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Are all 1st round losers eligible for #1 or just those in lottery position? I read both and got confused.
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mister d wrote: Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:44 pm Are all 1st round losers eligible for #1 or just those in lottery position? I read both and got confused.
All of them.
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I understand that if they can't complete the play in round, then the next lowest 8 team (reg season points %) all have a 12.5% chance.
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