The Swamp

rass wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 9:34 am The CSU story sounds bad.

And things are not going well at Rutgers, so we'll see about that schedule...

sancarlos wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 10:51 am Disappointing news from CSU, my alma mater. The new coach hasn't played a game yet, and he is already losing.

sancarlos wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 10:51 am Disappointing news from CSU, my alma mater. The new coach hasn't played a game yet, and he is already losing.

DSafetyGuy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 12:50 pm

sancarlos wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 10:51 am Disappointing news from CSU, my alma mater. The new coach hasn't played a game yet, and he is already losing.

It's completely on brand for Addazio.

sancarlos wrote: ↑Fri Aug 07, 2020 11:04 am Nice to see that even during a pandemic, Jim Harbaugh and Ryan day can get into a pissing match

Those interviewed by the Coloradoan said the erosion of that credibility started at the beginning of (AD Joe) Parker’s tenure when he continued to employ (Larry) Eustachy for four years after the coach was the subject of a scathing internal report regarding player abuse in 2014.

They said that loss of trust continued when Parker failed to address player and staff complaints involving (Mike) Bobo, who they accused of making racially insensitive comments and verbally harassing assistant coaches, players and staff during his five years. Parker negotiated a $1.825 million buyout of Bobo, who went 28-35, after the 2019 season.

A member of CSU's football staff said Addazio has downplayed the COVID-19 health threat and Black Lives Matter movement, which have dominated public discussion in recent months, calling both a "distraction from football'' to be managed.

"He's smart enough not to come right out in public and say it, but he thinks BLM (Black Lives Matter) is a crock of s---, and that has come out in meetings,'' said the football staff member who wished to remain anonymous. "When we had the incident with the player (a Black CSU football player was held at gunpoint by a white man while working in Loveland), the players wanted to march with shirts that had BLM on it, make posters and say chants. He told them if you are going to do that we aren't marching."

"I was not shocked by what he said or did. Everyone has meltdowns and bad moments,'' said Stewart, who was a college All-American football player at Tulsa; was drafted and played in the NFL for 11 coaches who would go on to become head coaches in the NFL; and served as a family counselor for the military (DSG: he is currently a CSU mental health counselor). "But what disturbed me most about his behavior was the contemptuous and entitled way he acted like he could treat myself and the student-athlete any way he chose. In neither one of those situations was the player's welfare the most important concern.''

A football staff member said Addazio later "bragged'' to coaches at a meeting about the verbal berating he handed the player, who the staffer described as a sensitive kid who was sobbing after the encounter.

"He comes all animated about it and yelling and pretty proud of himself,'' the staffer said. "He says, 'This f------ douche bag (name omitted), I unloaded on him.'"

Pruitt wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 2:36 pm Not so fast guys...



Executive order to follow?

mister d wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 3:52 pm Furlough the football coaches like they’re normal employees?

DSafetyGuy wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 5:38 pm The Mountain West has also tapped out for the fall, looking toward spring.

rass wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 4:32 pm

mister d wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 3:52 pm Furlough the football coaches like they’re normal employees?

OK, that's a great idea.

HaulCitgo wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 6:22 pm

rass wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 4:32 pm

mister d wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 3:52 pm Furlough the football coaches like they’re normal employees?

OK, that's a great idea.

Coaches have contracts. Normal employees not so much.

Brontoburglar wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 7:45 pm Boise State furloughed its coaches earlier this year so no, contracts are not the barrier here

HaulCitgo wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 8:20 pm Depends on what you negotiate. Maybe the Boise coaches had less contract protections. If schools could simply furlough coaches, lots of guys would be getting furloughed for performance. Someone's probably reading force majeure type provisions pretty closely but smells like a breach to me.

DSafetyGuy wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 8:11 pm

Brontoburglar wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 7:45 pm Boise State furloughed its coaches earlier this year so no, contracts are not the barrier here

Are there any potential public/private school issues that would affect this (although I imagine the private school coaches would go along with a short-term furlough for the PR angle)?

Pruitt wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 9:02 pm The Idiot posted this and pinned it...



Is he now going to add the NCAA to his list of those who hate America?

Brontoburglar wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 9:54 pm

HaulCitgo wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 8:20 pm Depends on what you negotiate. Maybe the Boise coaches had less contract protections. If schools could simply furlough coaches, lots of guys would be getting furloughed for performance. Someone's probably reading force majeure type provisions pretty closely but smells like a breach to me.

Boise State furloughed everyone making over a certain amount of money. Much of the football coaching staff was over that number. They got furloughed.

It wasn't indiscriminate. And, as AB noted, lots of coaches at other schools have taken pay cuts that effectively would cover a furlough period.

DSafetyGuy wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 5:33 pm