It's the sixth version of The Swamp. What could possibly go wrong?
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That's kinda the end justifying the means type of thinking. The only opposition to this I see is that POCs are the ones dying more, and they would die more there.
Problem is (oversimplifying) all the conservatives would still go out and vote while the liberals would stay home.
Right. If the 50,000+ deaths you're talking about were all the people actively ignoring the pandemic and choosing "their rights" over fucking masks, I wouldn't give a fuck either. But its going to be a lot of low wage workers who can't stay home and older people who are staying home but wanted to see their grandkids and shit like that.
I'm proofing the letter my wife drafted. It's LONG.DSafetyGuy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 15, 2020 3:27 pm NonLinear, my company has groups staying at two different hotels (including a Residence Inn) in the Bay Area right now. Our client put together a two-page informational flyer on the hotel policies that each one is using ranging from employee policies about protective equipment, food, elevator use, how many rooms they will have occupied, etc.
Your situation was FUCKED up.
I can still hope that a bunch of GOP delegates get Covid at the convention and die before Election Day though, right?mister d wrote: ↑Tue Jun 16, 2020 11:28 amRight. If the 50,000+ deaths you're talking about were all the people actively ignoring the pandemic and choosing "their rights" over fucking masks, I wouldn't give a fuck either. But its going to be a lot of low wage workers who can't stay home and older people who are staying home but wanted to see their grandkids and shit like that.
Yes, especially when it comes out that they were all infected by the same male prostitute who lived to tell of the depravities they requested.Steve of phpBB wrote: ↑Tue Jun 16, 2020 11:41 amI can still hope that a bunch of GOP delegates get Covid at the convention and die before Election Day though, right?mister d wrote: ↑Tue Jun 16, 2020 11:28 amRight. If the 50,000+ deaths you're talking about were all the people actively ignoring the pandemic and choosing "their rights" over fucking masks, I wouldn't give a fuck either. But its going to be a lot of low wage workers who can't stay home and older people who are staying home but wanted to see their grandkids and shit like that.
Yeah, Missouri isn’t a swing state but the Covid-cases here have been very disproportionately hitting low-income black communities that reliably vote Dem. The same is likely true in many other places. Mask or not, it’s a lot easier for Republicans who live in the suburbs to work from home and distance than for low-income city residents.mister d wrote: ↑Tue Jun 16, 2020 11:28 amRight. If the 50,000+ deaths you're talking about were all the people actively ignoring the pandemic and choosing "their rights" over fucking masks, I wouldn't give a fuck either. But its going to be a lot of low wage workers who can't stay home and older people who are staying home but wanted to see their grandkids and shit like that.
Many years ago, I faxed an 11-page complaint to some regional manager of Enterprise to complain. I think about three pages of it was complaint letter, but I included lots of other things, including maps of their other locations they could have sent me to when the location I was picking up at did not have a car for me despite my reservation (I ended up very late for work on my new boss's first day when they had me driven to a location that was almost 180 degrees the opposite direction from my office).Nonlinear FC wrote: ↑Tue Jun 16, 2020 11:32 amI'm proofing the letter my wife drafted. It's LONG.DSafetyGuy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 15, 2020 3:27 pm NonLinear, my company has groups staying at two different hotels (including a Residence Inn) in the Bay Area right now. Our client put together a two-page informational flyer on the hotel policies that each one is using ranging from employee policies about protective equipment, food, elevator use, how many rooms they will have occupied, etc.
Your situation was FUCKED up.
A couple years ago, coming back from our Christmas trip to New Mexico, the hotel in Tehachapi cancelled our hotel room the day we were traveling to stay there. Even though it was guaranteed and confirmed weeks before. They had no good explanation and behaved like dicks. Said they were full up, but then even said that they had a higher-end room available if I wanted to pay a bit more. You know I didn't do that. So, I wrote a raging letter to the hotel's parent company (Wyndham). Never heard a damned thing back. I had to comfort myself by hammering them on Yelp and Trip Advisor.DSafetyGuy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 16, 2020 12:54 pmMany years ago, I faxed an 11-page complaint to some regional manager of Enterprise to complain. I think about three pages of it was complaint letter, but I included lots of other things, including maps of their other locations they could have sent me to when the location I was picking up at did not have a car for me despite my reservation (I ended up very late for work on my new boss's first day when they had me driven to a location that was almost 180 degrees the opposite direction from my office).Nonlinear FC wrote: ↑Tue Jun 16, 2020 11:32 amI'm proofing the letter my wife drafted. It's LONG.DSafetyGuy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 15, 2020 3:27 pm NonLinear, my company has groups staying at two different hotels (including a Residence Inn) in the Bay Area right now. Our client put together a two-page informational flyer on the hotel policies that each one is using ranging from employee policies about protective equipment, food, elevator use, how many rooms they will have occupied, etc.
Your situation was FUCKED up.
Long letters are a bad idea when complaining. And you guys aren't even the lawyers (though NLFC's wife may be).DSafetyGuy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 16, 2020 12:54 pmMany years ago, I faxed an 11-page complaint to some regional manager of Enterprise to complain. I think about three pages of it was complaint letter, but I included lots of other things, including maps of their other locations they could have sent me to when the location I was picking up at did not have a car for me despite my reservation (I ended up very late for work on my new boss's first day when they had me driven to a location that was almost 180 degrees the opposite direction from my office).Nonlinear FC wrote: ↑Tue Jun 16, 2020 11:32 amI'm proofing the letter my wife drafted. It's LONG.DSafetyGuy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 15, 2020 3:27 pm NonLinear, my company has groups staying at two different hotels (including a Residence Inn) in the Bay Area right now. Our client put together a two-page informational flyer on the hotel policies that each one is using ranging from employee policies about protective equipment, food, elevator use, how many rooms they will have occupied, etc.
Your situation was FUCKED up.
I know. And I didn't care.A_B wrote: ↑Tue Jun 16, 2020 1:26 pmLong letters are a bad idea when complaining. And you guys aren't even the lawyers (though NLFC's wife may be).DSafetyGuy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 16, 2020 12:54 pmMany years ago, I faxed an 11-page complaint to some regional manager of Enterprise to complain. I think about three pages of it was complaint letter, but I included lots of other things, including maps of their other locations they could have sent me to when the location I was picking up at did not have a car for me despite my reservation (I ended up very late for work on my new boss's first day when they had me driven to a location that was almost 180 degrees the opposite direction from my office).Nonlinear FC wrote: ↑Tue Jun 16, 2020 11:32 amI'm proofing the letter my wife drafted. It's LONG.DSafetyGuy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 15, 2020 3:27 pm NonLinear, my company has groups staying at two different hotels (including a Residence Inn) in the Bay Area right now. Our client put together a two-page informational flyer on the hotel policies that each one is using ranging from employee policies about protective equipment, food, elevator use, how many rooms they will have occupied, etc.
Your situation was FUCKED up.
Friend of mine in the hotel business (Oiler's wife, for any of yous that were around during the Swamp way back times), says that the bad reviews on Yelp, and Trip Advisor especially, get quick responses.sancarlos wrote: ↑Tue Jun 16, 2020 1:19 pmA couple years ago, coming back from our Christmas trip to New Mexico, the hotel in Tehachapi cancelled our hotel room the day we were traveling to stay there. Even though it was guaranteed and confirmed weeks before. They had no good explanation and behaved like dicks. Said they were full up, but then even said that they had a higher-end room available if I wanted to pay a bit more. You know I didn't do that. So, I wrote a raging letter to the hotel's parent company (Wyndham). Never heard a damned thing back. I had to comfort myself by hammering them on Yelp and Trip Advisor.DSafetyGuy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 16, 2020 12:54 pmMany years ago, I faxed an 11-page complaint to some regional manager of Enterprise to complain. I think about three pages of it was complaint letter, but I included lots of other things, including maps of their other locations they could have sent me to when the location I was picking up at did not have a car for me despite my reservation (I ended up very late for work on my new boss's first day when they had me driven to a location that was almost 180 degrees the opposite direction from my office).Nonlinear FC wrote: ↑Tue Jun 16, 2020 11:32 amI'm proofing the letter my wife drafted. It's LONG.DSafetyGuy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 15, 2020 3:27 pm NonLinear, my company has groups staying at two different hotels (including a Residence Inn) in the Bay Area right now. Our client put together a two-page informational flyer on the hotel policies that each one is using ranging from employee policies about protective equipment, food, elevator use, how many rooms they will have occupied, etc.
Your situation was FUCKED up.
I ended up making money on the car-rental operation, so...mister d wrote: ↑Tue Jun 16, 2020 3:12 pm I wrote a short email complaining about the inarguable lack of a sound seal between our room and the room that shared a long window with ours, a room which housed somewhere between six and one thousand midwestern college kids in the city for a college basketball tournament. We got a free room out of it and this proves I'm both nicer and get better results than you guys.
1) I edited her message down... She just needed to get a lot of stuff off her chest.DSafetyGuy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 16, 2020 3:43 pmI ended up making money on the car-rental operation, so...mister d wrote: ↑Tue Jun 16, 2020 3:12 pm I wrote a short email complaining about the inarguable lack of a sound seal between our room and the room that shared a long window with ours, a room which housed somewhere between six and one thousand midwestern college kids in the city for a college basketball tournament. We got a free room out of it and this proves I'm both nicer and get better results than you guys.
I hope so. As I said, Wyndham didn't even acknowledge my note.Nonlinear FC wrote: ↑Wed Jun 17, 2020 11:07 am1) I edited her message down... She just needed to get a lot of stuff off her chest.DSafetyGuy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 16, 2020 3:43 pmI ended up making money on the car-rental operation, so...mister d wrote: ↑Tue Jun 16, 2020 3:12 pm I wrote a short email complaining about the inarguable lack of a sound seal between our room and the room that shared a long window with ours, a room which housed somewhere between six and one thousand midwestern college kids in the city for a college basketball tournament. We got a free room out of it and this proves I'm both nicer and get better results than you guys.
2) We sent the email yesterday. A little early to say, one way or the other, what the outcome is going to be. I'd put $100 up that we get at least a free nights stay out of it. Marriott doesn't (usually) fuck around with loyal customers complaining like this. We have a loooooong history with this company.
hmmmm...wunder y ewe didnt ask me too prof the leter?Nonlinear FC wrote: ↑Tue Jun 16, 2020 11:32 amI'm proofing the letter my wife drafted. It's LONG.DSafetyGuy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 15, 2020 3:27 pm NonLinear, my company has groups staying at two different hotels (including a Residence Inn) in the Bay Area right now. Our client put together a two-page informational flyer on the hotel policies that each one is using ranging from employee policies about protective equipment, food, elevator use, how many rooms they will have occupied, etc.
Your situation was FUCKED up.
Update, I played in my cloth mask the whole time. It sucked, but it was manageable. I was the only one out of 20ish that attempted it.BSF21 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 17, 2020 9:34 am I'm going to go play pickup hockey tonight. First non-limited group activity since this started. I really don't know how I feel about it but it's very hard to get into these skates and leagues so I feel obligated. I think since tonight is pickup I'm going to play with a cloth mask on and see how it goes. I'm not nervous by any means but I really just don't know how to reconcile my feelings about all of it.
This seems a big deal to me globally. Not the sexy new toy but I'm sure a lot of people worked a lot to get scientific data on what drugs actually work on this thing. Way easier for Trump to choose one and pump it up as effective. Borders on fraud. Even better that this is old pharma and governments should be able to make it widely available even in emerging markets.
That’s stressful. Are the workers set up at your plant with decent spacing? Is that even possible there?Square Rob wrote: ↑Fri Jun 19, 2020 5:23 am It’s getting bad here. Like really bad. Franklin county, about 25 miles south of me and where ~10-15% of our work force at the plant lives, has over 750 positive cases with a population of only 31k. That’s 1 in 40 people, which makes it one of (if not the*) hottest counties in the country. Our active count at the plant has doubled in a week, and I’m afraid it might do that again this week as we’ve had a number of people start calling off with symptoms.
I had to run out and take care of some crap last weekend and would guess mask wearing was ~20% of the people I saw. I just feel for most Americans they won’t react to this shit until it hits them personally, which means we will likely have wave after wave in different hot spots all year, up until we have a vaccine. Basically exactly what Fauci and the other experts were saying from day one if we didn’t stick to extreme measures.
*ok, never mind, just top 50.
On the plus side, the President disbanded the COVID Task Force a couple weeks ago, so that means the danger has passed! And yet again, the moron said that if we stop testing, we'll stop having new cases. I do understand why people who live in areas where they were shut down early with very few cases are lax with wearing masks, but at some point they have to see the risks. OTOH, I was talking to the father of my son's friend, and he was going on about how the spiking cases in other states is all about increased testing, and how hospitalizations are down and it's actually a good sign and safer, because more people know they have it, while the actual cases are lower. I don't know, my understanding is hospitalizations are increasing, too, and it isn't just more known cases due to testing, but increases in actual infections.Square Rob wrote: ↑Fri Jun 19, 2020 5:23 am It’s getting bad here. Like really bad. Franklin county, about 25 miles south of me and where ~10-15% of our work force at the plant lives, has over 750 positive cases with a population of only 31k. That’s 1 in 40 people, which makes it one of (if not the*) hottest counties in the country. Our active count at the plant has doubled in a week, and I’m afraid it might do that again this week as we’ve had a number of people start calling off with symptoms.
I had to run out and take care of some crap last weekend and would guess mask wearing was ~20% of the people I saw. I just feel for most Americans they won’t react to this shit until it hits them personally, which means we will likely have wave after wave in different hot spots all year, up until we have a vaccine. Basically exactly what Fauci and the other experts were saying from day one if we didn’t stick to extreme measures.
*ok, never mind, just top 50.
Yeah, I meant hospitalizations in the hotspots, not aggregate across the US.tennbengal wrote: ↑Fri Jun 19, 2020 7:58 am Hospitalizations are down, I think, if you take the US as a whole, as early hotspots that closed down hard like NY, NJ, WA, MD and a few others are seeing good results from the initial response. But if you take that group out and focus on the new hotspots that are are NOT responding with closures, hospitalizations are accelerating.
Right. But the MAGA crew that is obfuscating this current problem are playing games with whole vs. hotposts in claiming things are fine. One benefit to the early closure of MD is that people here by and large do NOT complain about wearing masks in public indoor places like stores. Mask usage is 100% in those areas here, which is helping. We got used to it early.The Sybian wrote: ↑Fri Jun 19, 2020 7:59 amYeah, I meant hospitalizations in the hotspots, not aggregate across the US.tennbengal wrote: ↑Fri Jun 19, 2020 7:58 am Hospitalizations are down, I think, if you take the US as a whole, as early hotspots that closed down hard like NY, NJ, WA, MD and a few others are seeing good results from the initial response. But if you take that group out and focus on the new hotspots that are are NOT responding with closures, hospitalizations are accelerating.