The Swamp

Nonlinear FC wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 9:21 am Can someone please tell me what the fuck is going on in New Hampshire!!?

A_B wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 9:29 am

Nonlinear FC wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 9:21 am Can someone please tell me what the fuck is going on in New Hampshire!!?

I'll set up a Zoom call to discuss.

The very nice doctor wrote:Yes, it’s possible you have Covid-19. Unfortunately, MDLive doesn’t have the authority to issue test orders for Covid-19.

Nonlinear FC wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 9:11 am I don't think there's any question at all that private and charter school advocates see an opening here. That's Betsy Devos' one note jam, and she's playing the tune on 11 the last 2 weeks.

Not that complicated a play, quite frankly.

degenerasian wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 2:46 pm Who gives a shit now if the unemployment rate goes up from 15% to 20% as long as people are surviving.

degenerasian wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 2:46 pm They dont care about kids going back to school, they only care about people going back to work which cannot happen unless kids go back to school. School is just a warehouse to hold kids so that parents can work 8 hours a day.

The republicans are obsessed with the unemployment rate, even during a fucking pandemic when high unemployment is a good thing as people stay home. Trump should cut more checks, it might be the only thing that saves him now, but republicans think cutting checks causes laziness because again they are obsessed with the unemployment rate and not receiving handouts. Who gives a shit now if the unemployment rate goes up from 15% to 20% as long as people are surviving.

Johnnie wrote: ↑Wed Apr 15, 2020 4:48 pm There's something extremely disingenuous about George Conway's situation. He tweets. He gives the occasional interview. But his wife is a chief propagandist. I simply can't get passed it.

If Hannity's wife suddenly went on a roll like Conway I'd be extremely pessimistic all the same.

I don't trust these people.

Her dad apparently allowed Claudia to give interviews to Insider and USA Today but then reversed course, writing on Twitter Friday that he and his wife did not consent to journalists communicating with any of their four kids.

https://www.statnews.com/2020/07/14/mod ... -response/

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2022483

HaulCitgo wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 6:19 pm Discussion of schools but no discussion of learning. Perfectly good reasons for and against back to school not the least of which is learning! Losing 18 months of learning vs getting 18 months ahead of the pack will earn you an extra million easy as an adult. And now most Americans are likely to be on the losing side of that sword in a global economy. But everyone would rather have a political debate when it's solely a matter of how much lost learning is worth how many lives. We could come up with an answer to that question but sides have been chosen.

There is little to nothing more important than education if you intend to reduce economic disparities. So everything else should shut and the kids should go to school. I'd say the feds should sublet corporate office space that the companies don't want right now anyway and let the kids have the board rooms in six person classes. Give the best teachers overtime and let them earn $300k in 12 months teaching summer, nights, weekends, holidays. Teachers work very very short hours. I'd say weed em out and get the kids in class in a way to cause the least possible deaths.

mister d wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 9:23 pm What percentage of teachers dying and kids getting sick is on the acceptable side of the risk assessment?

Sabo wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 10:53 am An update!

After my post last week, I started feeling better. I managed to work all day Wednesday, Thursday and Friday, and my energy levels were much better over the weekend. I wasn’t 100 percent come Sunday evening, but I was pretty close.

I didn’t sleep well Sunday night, but I felt well enough to work Monday. Shortly after lunch, my energy levels plummeted. I started feeling achy again, the headache returned and generally just felt like garbage. All of the good feelings over the last week just melted away.

I slept about 10 hours last night, but it was a restless and difficult sleep. I woke up this morning and felt terrible again. All of the same symptoms - fatigue, brain fog, headache and muscle aches are very much apparent.

I emailed my primary care physician, who fortunately emailed me back right away. She recommended I get a second Covid test, saying my initial test might’ve generated a false result due to a lack of a “viral load” in my body. Essentially, I might have enough of the virus to make me ill but not enough for the test to detect it.

My PCP said I should get tested through the Cleveland Clinic or University Hospitals, and if that isn’t possible, to go through Rite-Aid or CVS. I went to the Clinic’s site and had to fill out a form to determine if I’m eligible for the test. Unfortunately, I’m not sick enough to warrant a test in the Clinic’s opinion. I guess you have to be feverish and/or gasping for air to get tested.

So I tried Rite-Aid and CVS, and lo and behold, all of their appointments are filled up for today. “Please try again tomorrow!” is literally what the Rite-Aid site said. Great, thanks for the help, Rite-Aid!

So I went to the University Hospitals site and looked at their testing. The site says you need a doctor’s order to get the test, and if your PCP isn’t in the UH system, you should get a virtual visit. My PCP is associated with the Clinic, so I try the virtual visit. After filling out paperwork and paying the $49 fee, I get a phone call from a very nice doctor and describe my symptoms. Her response?

The very nice doctor wrote:Yes, it’s possible you have Covid-19. Unfortunately, MDLive doesn’t have the authority to issue test orders for Covid-19.

WHAT. THE. EVERLIVING. FUCK.

When I voiced my frustration to the doctor, explaining the UH site directed me to MDLive so I could get a Covid test order, she was very apologetic and said other patients told her the same thing.

Again, WHAT. THE. EVERLIVING. FUCK.

So I still feel like shit, have no option to get a Covid test today and am now out $49.

At least the very nice doctor gave me some good advice: Get plenty of rest, stay hydrated, take Tylenol for the aches and let the virus run its course. In other words, keep doing what I’ve already been doing.

I love the American medical system.

brian wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 5:45 pm I think it’s pretty natural for a normal parent to not want their teenage kid to have 100K followers overnight because of who her parents are and endless calls from reporters. So I don’t see how that’s proof of anything other than that.

Sabo wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 10:53 am and am now out $49.

Nonlinear FC wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 10:50 am I don't really feel like going back and quoting, but the idea that you are gaining ZERO knowledge through virtual learning is a bit... Well, it's playing a zero sum game with something that doesn't really fit the model.

Is it less effective for some? Sure. Is it MORE effective for some? You bet (my college kids, for example, are full of anxiety about going to in person classrooms AND they are able to do quite well online.)

I don't understand why people need to politicize or be so hysterical on this issue.

The Sybian wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 2:02 pm

Nonlinear FC wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 10:50 am I don't really feel like going back and quoting, but the idea that you are gaining ZERO knowledge through virtual learning is a bit... Well, it's playing a zero sum game with something that doesn't really fit the model.

Is it less effective for some? Sure. Is it MORE effective for some? You bet (my college kids, for example, are full of anxiety about going to in person classrooms AND they are able to do quite well online.)

I don't understand why people need to politicize or be so hysterical on this issue.

Yeah, I'd say it was probably better for my son, definitely worse for my daughter. I spent 75% of class time in HS and college looking at girls or thinking about sex, so virtual learning may have cut out distractions.