Trump Admin Meltdown Thread Part V - All Hail King Donald, First of his name

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Trump Admin Meltdown Thread Part V - All Hail King Donald, First of his name

Post by DaveInSeattle » Fri Feb 07, 2020 7:02 pm

Let the purges commence!



And they fired his brother as well...



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Post by A_B » Fri Feb 07, 2020 8:00 pm

Jesus. These are impeachable offenses as well, no?
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Post by Pruitt » Fri Feb 07, 2020 8:02 pm

The thread is aptly named.
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Post by DaveInSeattle » Fri Feb 07, 2020 8:06 pm

Cue up the Layla piano part...


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Post by A_B » Fri Feb 07, 2020 8:21 pm

Pruitt wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2020 8:02 pm
The thread is aptly named.
I dunno. It’s more of a glow up than a meltdown at this point.
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Re: Trump Admin Meltdown Thread Part V - All Hail King Donald, First of his name

Post by Rex » Fri Feb 07, 2020 8:41 pm

I’m impressed, he hasn’t killed any of these people. Still trolling Hillary.

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Rex wrote:
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I’m impressed, he hasn’t killed any of these people. Still trolling Hillary.
They’ll start falling out of windows any time now.
And his one problem is he didn’t go to Russia that night because he had extracurricular activities, and they froze to death.

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Post by Rex » Sat Feb 08, 2020 5:16 pm

the storylines are getting too predictable


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Post by Rams Fanny » Sat Feb 08, 2020 6:15 pm

Rex wrote:
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the storylines are getting too predictable

If he gets Manfred fired for not going along....win?
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Post by Jerloma » Tue Feb 11, 2020 2:10 pm

Trump is so stupid that he didn't get the MAGA hat joke on Curb...

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Post by Steve of phpBB » Tue Feb 11, 2020 4:35 pm

So two Assistant US Attorneys have withdrawn today from representing the government in the prosecution against Roger Stone. One has resigned his position as AUSA entirely.
And his one problem is he didn’t go to Russia that night because he had extracurricular activities, and they froze to death.

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Post by L-Jam3 » Tue Feb 11, 2020 4:36 pm

Resignation in lieu of a firing or a "fuck this shit, I'm outta here" resignation?
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Post by govmentchedda » Tue Feb 11, 2020 5:00 pm

@emptywheel, who is pretty on top of things, IMO, and not at all pro-Trump, seemed to think that the charging attorneys went overboard a bit. At least that's the take I got from her Twitter feed yesterday.
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L-Jam3 wrote:
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Resignation in lieu of a firing or a "fuck this shit, I'm outta here" resignation?
These are protest resignations - they are resigning to protest the decision by DOJ political appointees to override their filing. (A third one has resigned.)
And his one problem is he didn’t go to Russia that night because he had extracurricular activities, and they froze to death.

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@emptywheel, who is pretty on top of things, IMO, and not at all pro-Trump, seemed to think that the charging attorneys went overboard a bit. At least that's the take I got from her Twitter feed yesterday.
That's interesting. Did she say what she thought a reasonable recommendation would be? It seems to me the prosecutors recommended that the judge following the Sentencing Guidelines.
And his one problem is he didn’t go to Russia that night because he had extracurricular activities, and they froze to death.

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@emptywheel, who is pretty on top of things, IMO, and not at all pro-Trump, seemed to think that the charging attorneys went overboard a bit. At least that's the take I got from her Twitter feed yesterday.
That's interesting. Did she say what she thought a reasonable recommendation would be? It seems to me the prosecutors recommended that the judge following the Sentencing Guidelines.
I believe her point was that they were asking for above guidelines, and it surprised her a bit. I'll go look for the thread and link here. Sorry, Jerloma.
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Perhaps I misread her tweets?
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Post by DaveInSeattle » Tue Feb 11, 2020 5:41 pm

Yeah....DOJ put out the recommended sentence, Trump tweeted this morning that it was excessive, DOJ then backtracks and puts out NEW recommendations, and now 3 AUSA's have resigned in protest.

Umm...Does anyone want to ask Sen Collins if she's 'Troubled/Concerned' about this?

And it will be interesting to see what the Judge does. Federal Judges are no-nonsense about crap like this.

ETA: And now the fourth has resigned as well.

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Post by The Sybian » Tue Feb 11, 2020 8:21 pm

DaveInSeattle wrote:
Tue Feb 11, 2020 5:41 pm
Yeah....DOJ put out the recommended sentence, Trump tweeted this morning that it was excessive, DOJ then backtracks and puts out NEW recommendations, and now 3 AUSA's have resigned in protest.

Umm...Does anyone want to ask Sen Collins if she's 'Troubled/Concerned' about this?

And it will be interesting to see what the Judge does. Federal Judges are no-nonsense about crap like this.

ETA: And now the fourth has resigned as well.
My thoughts are so conflicted on this. I completely understand why the AUSAs want to quit, the entire integrity of their jobs is being undercut. The AUSAs in the biggest cities are the cream of the crop, and they all walk out of government into multi-million dollar a year jobs as partners in the biggest firms. Why put up with all the shot just have the dictator sabotage your work?

OTOH, I feel like they owe a duty as one of the last guardrails keeping our democracy on the tracks. Now there are 4 openings that Barr can fill with Trump toadies. The resignations should be seen as an enormous warning bell, but in the end it won't mean shit. The GOP Senate will continue protecting Trump and allowing him to slip further into authoritarianism. Trump will proclaim the resignations as a good thing, that he is draining the Swamp of evil Deep State AUSAs who are disloyal and unpatriotic because they are putting their agenda's (carrying out the law) above their loyalty to Dear Leader. Anyway you look at it, I'm tired of all Trump's winning. Fuck, this is a nightmare.
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Post by Pruitt » Tue Feb 11, 2020 9:51 pm

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The Sybian wrote:
Tue Feb 11, 2020 8:21 pm
DaveInSeattle wrote:
Tue Feb 11, 2020 5:41 pm
Yeah....DOJ put out the recommended sentence, Trump tweeted this morning that it was excessive, DOJ then backtracks and puts out NEW recommendations, and now 3 AUSA's have resigned in protest.

Umm...Does anyone want to ask Sen Collins if she's 'Troubled/Concerned' about this?

And it will be interesting to see what the Judge does. Federal Judges are no-nonsense about crap like this.

ETA: And now the fourth has resigned as well.
My thoughts are so conflicted on this. I completely understand why the AUSAs want to quit, the entire integrity of their jobs is being undercut. The AUSAs in the biggest cities are the cream of the crop, and they all walk out of government into multi-million dollar a year jobs as partners in the biggest firms. Why put up with all the shot just have the dictator sabotage your work?

OTOH, I feel like they owe a duty as one of the last guardrails keeping our democracy on the tracks. Now there are 4 openings that Barr can fill with Trump toadies. The resignations should be seen as an enormous warning bell, but in the end it won't mean shit. The GOP Senate will continue protecting Trump and allowing him to slip further into authoritarianism. Trump will proclaim the resignations as a good thing, that he is draining the Swamp of evil Deep State AUSAs who are disloyal and unpatriotic because they are putting their agenda's (carrying out the law) above their loyalty to Dear Leader. Anyway you look at it, I'm tired of all Trump's winning. Fuck, this is a nightmare.
FWIW, only one of the guys actually resigned from DOJ. The others just withdrew from the case and apparently resigned from a position with the Special Counsel.
And his one problem is he didn’t go to Russia that night because he had extracurricular activities, and they froze to death.


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Post by DaveInSeattle » Wed Feb 12, 2020 5:22 pm

I would have thought when the US turned into a banana republic, we'd at least have plentiful rum drinks.

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Post by Rush2112 » Wed Feb 12, 2020 11:21 pm

or we'd have taken back AMERICA's Cup.
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I'm no constitutional scholar, but that doesn't sound right to me...
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Post by Joe K » Fri Feb 14, 2020 9:59 am

Pruitt wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 9:02 am


I'm no constitutional scholar, but that doesn't sound right to me...
Unfortunately it’s not nearly as wrong as you think. A big part of our Constitutional order, particularly as it’s been interpreted by courts in the last 100 years, depends on the President being a rational and decent actor.

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Post by govmentchedda » Fri Feb 14, 2020 10:01 am

Yeah, head of executive branch and whatnot.
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Post by The Sybian » Fri Feb 14, 2020 10:40 am

govmentchedda wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 10:01 am
Yeah, head of executive branch and whatnot.
So then why was it such a big deal when a former President had a conversation with a sitting AG?

There is a very strong precedence in place that the DOJ is separate from the President and removed from political pressure. I doubt the Constitution addresses this, as the DOJ didn't exist until 1870, but the first AG was appointed in 1789. Again, Trump's complete refusal to follow long existing norms of institutions is exposing the need to codify these norms. I'm hopeful the legacy of the Trump admin is shining a light on all the loopholes an authoritarian could exploit, and Congress closes these loopholes once a Dem is in office, so we don't have to worry about a competent authoritarian succeeding in destroying our democracy.
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So then why was it such a big deal when a former President had a conversation with a sitting AG?
It was a big deal because unlike Trump, Bill Clinton *didn't* have a government position that gave him the right to talk to an attorney general, nor was Clinton subject to any even nominal public duties. He was basically Rudy Giuliana. And Clinton was in a position to offer the then-AG a job or other incentives. Her tenure was going to end, and she was going to return to the private sector, in a few months, so she was in a position of needing favors.

It was rightly a big deal when he met privately with the public official overseeing investigations of his wife.
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Post by A_B » Mon Feb 17, 2020 12:20 pm

I just figured out how to get election day off for everyone! Propose a Donald Trump day on the first Tuesday in November after the first Monday!

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From The Atlantic:

Bill Barr Must Resign
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Post by Steve of phpBB » Wed Feb 19, 2020 7:52 am

Thanks Donald!

And his one problem is he didn’t go to Russia that night because he had extracurricular activities, and they froze to death.

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Post by Pruitt » Wed Feb 19, 2020 8:41 am

Twitter - giving voice to the voiceless...
“Social media, for me, has been very important because it gives me a voice,” Trump said.
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Post by A_B » Wed Feb 19, 2020 1:02 pm

At this point, he has to think that if you're impeached once you can't be impeached again, right?

These pardons are exactly what MAtt Bevin was/is getting investigated for. Then the assange stuff.
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