Trump Admin Meltdown Thread Part V - All Hail King Donald, First of his name

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Tue Jul 07, 2020 2:37 pm

The Sybian wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 2:31 pm Trumpers aren't going to believe anything Mary says and they labeled Bolton a Libturd and Never Trumper making up lies to attack Trump, so nothing will register to a cult member anyways.

Just need to pick off enough people who aren't true believer cult members to win the election. I won't buy the books, but I'm glad to see them coming out and getting publicity. Just like The Lincoln Project ads.

Steve of phpBB · Post by **Steve of phpBB** » Tue Jul 07, 2020 2:42 pm

The Sybian wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 2:31 pm... I sure as fuck ain't giving Bolton a dime after he refused to testify at impeachment to make money on the book.

I agree 110% with this.

Regarding Mary, whatever. As far as I can see, the only benefit of her book is that it keeps Donald under pressure and acting like a whackjob, which will further alienate any persuadable voters in the middle.

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:02 pm

The Sybian · Post by **The Sybian** » Thu Jul 09, 2020 6:57 am

Love the message, and I'm shocked to see a group of GOP insiders taking down mainstream GOP Senators, most of whom are up for reelection. Lincoln Group guys are responsible for turning the Party into the shitshow it's become. Strange times.

ETA: I just find this, and some of their other ads hard to follow with all the quick cuts and flashing. I can't "remember their names" when the screen is flashing and they are jump cutting 30 times instead of just showing the Senators. Just show a picture or a scene and slowly zoom in on their face with their name below in large font. But, WTF do I know.

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Thu Jul 09, 2020 9:13 am

7-2 ruling. Thomas & Alito dissent.

Steve of phpBB · Post by **Steve of phpBB** » Thu Jul 09, 2020 9:14 am

I’m refreshing SCOTUSblog every fifteen seconds. Ruling on Congressional subpoenas in seven minutes.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Thu Jul 09, 2020 9:14 am

7-2, with Gorsuch and Kavanaugh on the right side about the tax records.

I'm not a lawyer, but is there language that they pushed it back down the ladder at the end of the decision?

Edit: Yeah, they kicked it back down. It's going back to court to argue about each one. Unlikely that we see anything before election, I imagine.

Steve of phpBB · Post by **Steve of phpBB** » Thu Jul 09, 2020 9:19 am

A_B wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 9:14 amI'm not a lawyer, but is there language that they pushed it back down the ladder at the end of the decision?

Yes.

Apparently a footnote in that decision indicates Trump loses the congressional subpoenas case too.

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Thu Jul 09, 2020 9:20 am

Dammit. Thought we had him.

ETA:

LOL

Steve of phpBB · Post by **Steve of phpBB** » Thu Jul 09, 2020 9:28 am

This one kicked back to the lower courts too. So they’re letting Trump run out the clock.

Though if RBG and SS are on board, perhaps it’s the correct decision?

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Thu Jul 09, 2020 9:44 am

Pretty fucking annoying, but I get it.

The Supreme Court doesn't want to appear political. They know an immediate release would affect the election. So it seems like a cover for Conservatives.

It looks like some power brokerage amongst the Justices to preserve some semblance of apolitical existence.

L-Jam3 · Post by **L-Jam3** » Thu Jul 09, 2020 9:48 am

Hey, as long as it still gives us ammo to say "Trump is a pussy who won't show his tax returns", I'm cool with this decision.

From where I see, it looks like New York state can get them before the election.

DaveInSeattle · Post by **DaveInSeattle** » Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:34 am

A_B wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 9:14 am 7-2, with Gorsuch and Kavanaugh on the right side about the tax records.

How pissed is Trump that his two appointees voted against him?

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Fri Jul 10, 2020 8:34 am

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Fri Jul 10, 2020 8:36 am

He deleted it a while back, but if you remember what it was, it still applies:

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Fri Jul 10, 2020 9:14 am

mister d wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 8:36 am He deleted it a while back, but if you remember what it was, it still applies:

I figured I could summon you with that. Like saying Beetleguese three times.

Look, so many ways he could win, but killing 200,000 americans is probably not one of them, and that die is cast.

The Sybian · Post by **The Sybian** » Fri Jul 10, 2020 9:23 am

mister d wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 8:36 am He deleted it a while back, but if you remember what it was, it still applies:

I don't know what he said...

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Fri Jul 10, 2020 10:01 am

The Sybian wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 9:23 am
mister d wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 8:36 am He deleted it a while back, but if you remember what it was, it still applies:

I don't know what he said...

Some version of "maybe this will be what sinks him"

rass · Post by **rass** » Fri Jul 10, 2020 10:12 am

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/id-like- ... f-this-jam

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Fri Jul 10, 2020 10:47 am

The lesson of Benghazi and "her emails" is that facts and scale and gravity don't matter when your only core belief is that its us against them and the them encompasses so many diverse groups that you may hate.

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Fri Jul 10, 2020 10:55 am

mister d wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 10:47 am The lesson of Benghazi and "her emails" is that facts and scale and gravity don't matter when your only core belief is that its us against them and the them encompasses so many diverse groups that you may hate.

Very nicely put.

I will be quoting this comment.

rass · Post by **rass** » Fri Jul 10, 2020 11:03 am

But you just...

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Fri Jul 10, 2020 11:07 am

Fucking meta.

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Fri Jul 10, 2020 11:15 am

200,000 dead. Soon. At some point, that matters. I think we are there.

The Sybian · Post by **The Sybian** » Fri Jul 10, 2020 11:18 am

tennbengal wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 11:15 am 200,000 dead. Soon. At some point, that matters. I think we are there.

Yeah, his people are touting his amazing job because the experts predicted 2 million dead Americans, so Trump is phenomenal, and the Liberal Media is unfairly attacking him. Meanwhile, the asshole is threatening to cut funding to schools who insist on formulating a plan to return. I imagine that has to sit wrong with at least some of his hardcore base afraid to send their children back to school.

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Fri Jul 10, 2020 11:23 am

Stop the presses!

New enemy sighted...

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Fri Jul 10, 2020 11:28 am

The Sybian wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 11:18 am
tennbengal wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 11:15 am 200,000 dead. Soon. At some point, that matters. I think we are there.
Yeah, his people are touting his amazing job because the experts predicted 2 million dead Americans, so Trump is phenomenal, and the Liberal Media is unfairly attacking him. Meanwhile, the asshole is threatening to cut funding to schools who insist on formulating a plan to return. I imagine that has to sit wrong with at least some of his hardcore base afraid to send their children back to school.

The polling really is dire. Especially considering how weak and attackable Biden was supposed to be - and given that Biden has, as pointed out in the other thread, really not done much public campaigning for months. His COVID response has been SO shitty and the consequences SO dire that I think that is really a thing that has very badly wounded him. Every effort they have made to change the subject (BLM, antifa, monuments, defund police, librul colleges, etc etc ) have failed because the COVID nightmare overwhelms everything. The subject cannot change. That's a major problem for the cheeto. And continues to rob him of his propaganda rallies to boot.

DSafetyGuy · Post by **DSafetyGuy** » Fri Jul 10, 2020 11:39 am

He's already calling Biden a socialist.

Post by **brian** » Fri Jul 10, 2020 11:47 am

No matter how legitimate the criticism, nothing Trump says is going to land because everyone -- even his supporters -- knows he full of shit about everything. That's the problem when you're just spewing diarrhea on Twitter non-stop for 10 years.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Fri Jul 10, 2020 12:00 pm

Build Back Better Biden?

That's the official slogan?

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Fri Jul 10, 2020 12:18 pm

DSafetyGuy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 11:39 am He's already calling Biden a socialist.

Sure. That's all they got. The ads are full blown Willie Horton already that I have seen from the official campaign during commercial breaks on channels like TBS after 8:00 pm. I just don't think any of it sticks or resonates like it did in the past as long as Covid is a thing and that the fuckawful response to it led us to this juncture. That's on him and people know it, outside of his echo chamber. And he can't win with JUST his echo chamber.

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Fri Jul 10, 2020 12:28 pm

[broken record]

Trump entered the race, primarily, as a branding exercise. Winning wasn't the point, it was building up his cred with the Fox News audience so he could launch his own channel.

Smash cut 3.5 years later and he's still trying to win the GOP primary. He's not trying to govern or lead on any level, really. He's just continuing to spew nonsense and continuously pandering to his fucking moron base.

What's truly amazing is that he's such a sociopath, he can't see that actually leading on the pandemic response isn't just "the right thing to do" from a humanitarian and governance standpoint... It's the right thing to do POLITICALLY. It's one of the easiest calculations EVER, in the history of this country, that leading us through this with any level of competence likely gets him re-elected.

As I've been saying since 2016, the blessing in all of this is that he's SUCH a FUCKING MORON (as are the dregs of humanity around him), that he's seen by even his own followers as a blowhard on Twitter, and by the rest of us as the worst president in modern times.

[/record]

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Fri Jul 10, 2020 12:29 pm

People are still kinda noticing shit like this, this no matter how much he tries to pretend it's not a thing...

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Fri Jul 10, 2020 12:34 pm

Here, enjoy some nice summertime schadenfreude.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... rc=nl_most

The president has cast himself in the starring role of the blameless victim — of a deadly pandemic, of a stalled economy, of deep-seated racial unrest, all of which happened to him rather than the country.

The epitaph practically writes itself.

brian_VGK can piss all over it.

The Sybian · Post by **The Sybian** » Fri Jul 10, 2020 12:39 pm

Nonlinear FC wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 12:28 pm [broken record]

What's truly amazing is that he's such a sociopath, he can't see that actually leading on the pandemic response isn't just "the right thing to do" from a humanitarian and governance standpoint... It's the right thing to do POLITICALLY. It's one of the easiest calculations EVER, in the history of this country, that leading us through this with any level of competence likely gets him re-elected.

[/record]

What this boils down to is Trump doesn't want to do the job of President. He wants to hold rallies, have every praise him, get to puff his chest out and push around leaders of other countries, and pal around with his strongman dictator idols. He wants to see Fox News say nice things about him, and when they don't, he'll switch over to OAN. I'm kind of surprised he didn't start his own network despite being in the WH. Have Jr. run it with Eric's wife as the lead anchor. Actually, they already are doing that on a smaller scale. Imagine if a sitting President started his own news network. That is so absurd, yet I'd be surprised if Trump hasn't tried to get it up and running.

The Sybian · Post by **The Sybian** » Fri Jul 10, 2020 12:41 pm

Nonlinear FC wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 12:34 pm Here, enjoy some nice summertime schadenfreude.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... rc=nl_most

The president has cast himself in the starring role of the blameless victim — of a deadly pandemic, of a stalled economy, of deep-seated racial unrest, all of which happened to him rather than the country.
The epitaph practically writes itself.

brian_VGK can piss all over it.

At some point, some MAGA morons have to be effected by the pandemic and get pissed hearing Trump only upset that he is the victim of the pandemic, right?

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Fri Jul 10, 2020 12:42 pm

The Sybian wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 12:41 pm
Nonlinear FC wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 12:34 pm Here, enjoy some nice summertime schadenfreude.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... rc=nl_most

The president has cast himself in the starring role of the blameless victim — of a deadly pandemic, of a stalled economy, of deep-seated racial unrest, all of which happened to him rather than the country.
The epitaph practically writes itself.

brian_VGK can piss all over it.
At some point, some MAGA morons have to be effected by the pandemic and get pissed hearing Trump only upset that he is the victim of the pandemic, right?

yes. We are arriving there, based on the polling in individual states.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Fri Jul 10, 2020 12:52 pm

These people have viewed Trump as a co-victim all along. They never expected him to lead, just to hate what they hate.

bfj · Post by **bfj** » Fri Jul 10, 2020 12:55 pm

The Sybian wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 11:18 am
tennbengal wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 11:15 am 200,000 dead. Soon. At some point, that matters. I think we are there.
Yeah, his people are touting his amazing job because the experts predicted 2 million dead Americans, so Trump is phenomenal, and the Liberal Media is unfairly attacking him. Meanwhile, the asshole is threatening to cut funding to schools who insist on formulating a plan to return. I imagine that has to sit wrong with at least some of his hardcore base afraid to send their children back to school.

Agreed, it really hits those of us who have spouses who will be forced to go back into school buildings.

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Fri Jul 10, 2020 1:04 pm

bfj wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 12:55 pm
The Sybian wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 11:18 am
tennbengal wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 11:15 am 200,000 dead. Soon. At some point, that matters. I think we are there.
Yeah, his people are touting his amazing job because the experts predicted 2 million dead Americans, so Trump is phenomenal, and the Liberal Media is unfairly attacking him. Meanwhile, the asshole is threatening to cut funding to schools who insist on formulating a plan to return. I imagine that has to sit wrong with at least some of his hardcore base afraid to send their children back to school.
Agreed, it really hits those of us who have spouses who will be forced to go back into school buildings.

NODS.