Trump Admin Meltdown Thread Part V - All Hail King Donald, First of his name

[Pruitt]

Maybe they should buy tires made outside of America?

[BSF21]

Took my tires off this morning. Take that LEFT.

[Ryan]

He should have said Radial Left

[The Sybian]

While this is no worse than anything Trump says or Tweets every damned day, take a step back and realize that a sitting US President just called for a boycott of an American company because they won't let employees advertise his political fundraising attire. FFS, they have a policy, as I recommend every business adopt, prohibiting clothing promoting ANY political campaign. It's just good HR! But, no different than the Right feeling victimized by every example of not being allowed to do something nobody is allowed to do. If their policy specifically called out MAGA hats only, he has a point. Show me a Biden hat allowed and MAGA hat prohibited, and you have a point.

[Pruitt]

HAve some whine with lunch...

[degenerasian]

While this is no worse than anything Trump says or Tweets every damned day, take a step back and realize that a sitting US President just called for a boycott of an American company because they won't let employees advertise his political fundraising attire. FFS, they have a policy, as I recommend every business adopt, prohibiting clothing promoting ANY political campaign. It's just good HR! But, no different than the Right feeling victimized by every example of not being allowed to do something nobody is allowed to do. If their policy specifically called out MAGA hats only, he has a point. Show me a Biden hat allowed and MAGA hat prohibited, and you have a point.

There was a training slide that showed Black Lives Matter hats are allowed but not MAGA hats.


Goodyear has now stated that the slide was not part of official training.

[brian]

It's pretty obvious they're making a distinction between social justice movements and political campaigns.

[degenerasian]

It's pretty obvious they're making a distinction between social justice movements and political campaigns.

I think so too. But then why does Goodyear have to backtrack? Just stick with it. We did create this training slide.

[The Sybian]

It's pretty obvious they're making a distinction between social justice movements and political campaigns.

Exactly. There is a difference between BLM and Joe Biden.

Let me float this by you. In researching a policy issue for a client, I came across a SHRM article (Society of Human Resource Management) encouraging employers to allow employees to express support for movements like BLM, as it will improve morale and foster a positive work environment. I was really shocked to see that, as SHRM is the undisputed business association in the HR field, and they usually take a very conservative (not politically) position. While I fully agree with a business promoting equality, I feel like BLM is a very controversial organization. I see supporting BLM as different than supporting the idea of equality for all races. I'm all for supporting LGBTQ rights as an employer, but I wouldn't recommend supporting a specific activist group. Maybe I am overly cautious here, but I think companies need to avoid allowing employees too much freedom to express their political views in the office. No matter how righteous a political belief may be, someone will disagree and want to show support for their cause, and I really don't want to get called in when my clients have an employee wearing a White Power hat to the office.

[degenerasian]

Also it gets tricky when you allow black lives matter but not blue lives matter.

[A_B]

It's pretty obvious they're making a distinction between social justice movements and political campaigns.

I think so too. But then why does Goodyear have to backtrack? Just stick with it. We did create this training slide.

I could see that being created in one specific location for a team meeting and not be a direct corporate directive.

[brian]

Also it gets tricky when you allow black lives matter but not blue lives matter.

No one is born a cop.

[Johnnie]

Also it gets tricky when you allow black lives matter but not blue lives matter.

No one is born a cop.

Or, put more eloquently, It's not a blue life. It's a fucking blue shirt.

[P.D.X.]

False equivalence is the entire raison d'être of blue lives matter.

[psunate77]

No doubt IMO Trump wins the election.

We were duked.

[degenerasian]

Also it gets tricky when you allow black lives matter but not blue lives matter.

No one is born a cop.

True! But I dont think blue lives matter has a political affiliation either does it? It is all Republican? Goodyear is backtracking saying we support cops too!

[Giff]

It's a political response to a social movement.

[brian]

Also it gets tricky when you allow black lives matter but not blue lives matter.

No one is born a cop.

True! But I dont think blue lives matter has a political affiliation either does it? It is all Republican? Goodyear is backtracking saying we support cops too!

They have to because of the false equivalence PDX was talking about. "Blue Lives Matter" is inherently a racist movement designed to diminish Black Lives Matter. Black Lives Matter has nothing to do with cops other than the ones who abuse their jobs to attack black people.

[DSafetyGuy]

Also it gets tricky when you allow black lives matter but not blue lives matter.

No one is born a cop.

True! But I dont think blue lives matter has a political affiliation either does it? It is all Republican? Goodyear is backtracking saying we support cops too!

They have to because of the false equivalence PDX was talking about. "Blue Lives Matter" is inherently a racist movement designed to diminish Black Lives Matter. Black Lives Matter has nothing to do with cops other than the ones who abuse their jobs to attack black people.

White supremacists are also in all levels of law enforcement at higher levels than you probably think.

[Rex]

These tire companies are trying to radialize our youth

[Johnnie]

DON'T TREAD ON ME

[Steve of phpBB]

Also it gets tricky when you allow black lives matter but not blue lives matter.

No one is born a cop.

True! But I dont think blue lives matter has a political affiliation either does it? It is all Republican? Goodyear is backtracking saying we support cops too!

They have to because of the false equivalence PDX was talking about. "Blue Lives Matter" is inherently a racist movement designed to diminish Black Lives Matter. Black Lives Matter has nothing to do with cops other than the ones who abuse their jobs to attack black people.

Bingo. It's like Confederate statues - sure, in theory "Blue Lives Matter" is just about the importance of making sure our police officers are as safe as possible. Just like in theory Confederate statues are about a certain aspect of history.

But both are only a thing in response to efforts of Blacks to obtain equality. Plus, no one needs to be reminded that Blue Lives Matter - whenever a cop dies on the job here, even from a car wreck, it's a huge story, the funeral is covered on all the local stations, etc. And no one needs to remember that there were people in southern states who fought for the Confederacy.

[The Sybian]

White supremacists are also in all levels of law enforcement at higher levels than you probably think.

Not me, my super-racist cousin was the head of the NYPD Internal Affairs. He proudly said, "I'm exactly the kind of guy you want in this role, because I make claims go away." Then he offered to let me shoot his service weapon into the ground at my Aunt's (his mother's) back yard with a bunch of kids around. Hey, it was July 4th!

Actually, I can't say he is a White Supremacist, but he is racist.

[Steve of phpBB]

These tire companies are trying to radialize our youth

1. Ha.

2. (But I think Ryan beat you to it, in another thread.)

[Rex]

Doesn’t that just mean we both get 2 points?

[Ryan]

Rubber match?

[psunate77]

[A_B]

Rubber match?

Wow. Expertly crafted.

[Johnnie]

[DaveInSeattle]

Pretty nice boat for Bannon to get arrested on...

[Steve of phpBB]

Rubber match?

Wow. Expertly crafted.

Something something seven, around two, wrapped in one.

[Steve of phpBB]

Her confidence that they won't draw an appellate panel with two Trump nutjobs on it, or that the partisan Republican Supreme Court won't step in again to delay the process, is admirable.

[brian]

The Supremes already kicked this case back to the lower courts to allow Trump to make these specific claims, which have all been rejected. You're the lawyer, of course but it seems unlikely any appeals courts or the Supreme Court are going to effectively overrule themselves.

[Steve of phpBB]

The Supremes already kicked this case back to the lower courts to allow Trump to make these specific claims, which have all been rejected. You're the lawyer, of course but it seems unlikely any appeals courts or the Supreme Court are going to effectively overrule themselves.

I might be getting my cases mixed up, but I don't think these specific claims were addressed. I think the earlier proceedings dealt with whether being President gave Trump a special privilege against the subpoenas. With that issue out of the way, now the courts are dealing with the standard objections any party can raise to a subpoena. So neither the Court of Appeals or the Supreme Court has has ruled on these particular objections.

[brian]

Seen a couple reports that Curt Schilling was also arrested in this fundraising scam.

[brian]

Sadly, that might not be legit.

[Steve of phpBB]

So far I think it's fake. I'd be surprised if anyone else was arrested at this point, as I don't think they're identified in the indictment.

But the thing about Bannon - he'll have no qualms about singing to the feds. So if he has dirt suggesting these other idiots were knowingly involved in a scheme to defraud, he'll sell those other guys out in a heartbeat to save his own ass.

[Pruitt]

Each of the three people who led Trump’s 2016 campaign has now faced criminal charges

But you know, it's the Democrats who hate America.

[The Sybian]

Her confidence that they won't draw an appellate panel with two Trump nutjobs on it, or that the partisan Republican Supreme Court won't step in again to delay the process, is admirable.

Wouldn't it be a State appellate court hearing the claims? Less likely to have a political outcome, I'd think. OTOH, from what I've read, even if the DA gets the tax returns before the election, they won't be able to make anything in the returns public. Any fraud will come out at trial, but that won't be until well after the election. It'd be a shame if the returns were leaked, but I don't think they would do that.

[Steve of phpBB]

Wouldn't it be a State appellate court hearing the claims? Less likely to have a political outcome, I'd think. OTOH, from what I've read, even if the DA gets the tax returns before the election, they won't be able to make anything in the returns public. Any fraud will come out at trial, but that won't be until well after the election. It'd be a shame if the returns were leaked, but I don't think they would do that.

This is still in the federal system, on remand from the Supreme Court. Today's ruling was issued by the federal district court.

Though yeah, now that you mention it, it would make more sense for this to be in the state system. I would not be surprised if that's the Trump team's next move, after the federal claims are finally defeated.