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Re: Trump Admin Meltdown Thread Part V - All Hail King Donald, First of his name

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2020 11:38 am
by Pruitt
Johnnie wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:30 am It's amazing to me how The Lincoln Project nails every damn ad right now. And I'm either not seeing much from Democrats or not looking hard enough.

Well, the Democrats can let the Lincoln people do the heavy lifting for them while staying at arm's length.

Re: Trump Admin Meltdown Thread Part V - All Hail King Donald, First of his name

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2020 11:41 am
by Johnnie
Because, on the whole, a bunch of Democrats are bitches.

Re: Trump Admin Meltdown Thread Part V - All Hail King Donald, First of his name

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2020 1:01 pm
by DaveInSeattle

Re: Trump Admin Meltdown Thread Part V - All Hail King Donald, First of his name

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2020 1:30 pm
by Johnnie
I actually just laughed out loud at that.

Re: Trump Admin Meltdown Thread Part V - All Hail King Donald, First of his name

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2020 5:58 pm
by Pruitt
If you want to read what controlled rage can sound like...

George Will: "Trump must be removed. So must his congressional enablers."
In 2016, the Republican Party gave its principal nomination to a vulgarian and then toiled to elect him. And to stock Congress with invertebrates whose unswerving abjectness has enabled his institutional vandalism, who have voiced no serious objections to his Niagara of lies

Re: Trump Admin Meltdown Thread Part V - All Hail King Donald, First of his name

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2020 6:16 pm
by sancarlos
George Will AND Ann Coulter!


Re: Trump Admin Meltdown Thread Part V - All Hail King Donald, First of his name

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2020 6:18 pm
by brian
Will's been NeverTrump since 2016

Re: Trump Admin Meltdown Thread Part V - All Hail King Donald, First of his name

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2020 6:24 pm
by EdRomero

Re: Trump Admin Meltdown Thread Part V - All Hail King Donald, First of his name

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2020 6:29 pm
by brian
One of these soldiers should make the ultimate sacrifice for their country and put a bullet in Trump's head.

Re: Trump Admin Meltdown Thread Part V - All Hail King Donald, First of his name

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2020 6:47 pm
by EdRomero
I'm worried there will soon be a Kent University type incident, or possibly a National Guardsman or Cop getting murdered which will inflame things more. And I think Trump will try to use this for martial law, election cancellation, you name it. He knows he's down in the polls and the economy is going to shit. Who knows what type of advice Putin gave him yesterday -- maybe get some apartment buildings bombed to start a war. This should have gone in the anxiety thread.

Re: Trump Admin Meltdown Thread Part V - All Hail King Donald, First of his name

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2020 6:52 pm
by sancarlos
EdRomero wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2020 6:47 pm I'm worried there will soon be a Kent University type incident, or possibly a National Guardsman or Cop getting murdered which will inflame things more. And I think Trump will try to use this for martial law, election cancellation, you name it. He knows he's down in the polls and the economy is going to shit. Who knows what type of advice Putin gave him yesterday -- maybe get some apartment buildings bombed to start a war. This should have gone in the anxiety thread.
I think a Kent State type event is inevitable. We've already seen numerous tweets of cops beating the shit out of people for no apparent reason, and one instance of the horse of a mounted cop trampling an innocent woman.

Re: Trump Admin Meltdown Thread Part V - All Hail King Donald, First of his name

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2020 6:56 pm
by Pruitt
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Re: Trump Admin Meltdown Thread Part V - All Hail King Donald, First of his name

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2020 7:01 pm
by mister d

Re: Trump Admin Meltdown Thread Part V - All Hail King Donald, First of his name

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2020 7:06 pm
by EdRomero
Jesus. I just saw the footage of the National Guard clearing the way for his photo shoot walk. And how he threw in the 2nd amendment into his call for sending in troops to suppress protesters was really something.

Re: Trump Admin Meltdown Thread Part V - All Hail King Donald, First of his name

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2020 7:06 pm
by P.D.X.
mister d wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2020 7:01 pm
I thought the same thing watching it but was hoping they'd have a few frames earlier when there was a giant BLM tag.

Re: Trump Admin Meltdown Thread Part V - All Hail King Donald, First of his name

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2020 7:10 pm
by P.D.X.
EdRomero wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2020 7:06 pm And how he threw in the 2nd amendment into his call for sending in troops to suppress protesters was really something.
That was so awkwardly wedged in there (and hopefully that dog bullhorn won't lead to 'patriots' shooting unarmed protesters.)

Re: Trump Admin Meltdown Thread Part V - All Hail King Donald, First of his name

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2020 7:39 pm
by DSafetyGuy
P.D.X. wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2020 7:10 pm
EdRomero wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2020 7:06 pm And how he threw in the 2nd amendment into his call for sending in troops to suppress protesters was really something.
That was so awkwardly wedged in there (and hopefully that dog bullhorn won't lead to 'patriots' shooting unarmed protesters.)
Two packs of white dudes with golf clubs, baseball bats, etc. are walking around Philadelphia.

So....

ETA:


Re: Trump Admin Meltdown Thread Part V - All Hail King Donald, First of his name

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2020 7:50 pm
by EdRomero
"The gang defeats Antifa"

Re: Trump Admin Meltdown Thread Part V - All Hail King Donald, First of his name

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2020 8:02 pm
by DaveInSeattle


I want to know: Who were the clowns in the room when they dreamed up the 'Lets tear gas protesters and walk to the church' stunt? Because that's an incredible level of stupid...

Re: Trump Admin Meltdown Thread Part V - All Hail King Donald, First of his name

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2020 8:34 pm
by govmentchedda
EdRomero wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2020 7:50 pm "The gang defeats Antifa"
Well done

Re: Trump Admin Meltdown Thread Part V - All Hail King Donald, First of his name

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2020 9:11 pm
by Pruitt
Fuck man, this is end of days shit.

Re: Trump Admin Meltdown Thread Part V - All Hail King Donald, First of his name

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2020 9:32 pm
by govmentchedda

Re: Trump Admin Meltdown Thread Part V - All Hail King Donald, First of his name

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 8:37 am
by Giff
Pruitt wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2020 9:11 pm Fuck man, this is end of days shit.
Yeah, but think about Biden's gaffes!

Re: Trump Admin Meltdown Thread Part V - All Hail King Donald, First of his name

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:31 am
by Pruitt

Re: Trump Admin Meltdown Thread Part V - All Hail King Donald, First of his name

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:39 am
by brian
One of my only goals in life at this point is to live long enough to literally piss on his grave one day.

Re: Trump Admin Meltdown Thread Part V - All Hail King Donald, First of his name

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:41 am
by Joe K
Giff wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 8:37 am
Pruitt wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2020 9:11 pm Fuck man, this is end of days shit.
Yeah, but think about Biden's gaffes!
You might think this comment is really clever, but the two issues aren’t distinct. When a country descends into dangerous instability, there’s value in having a forceful and persuasive opposition leader! Who’s going to play that role if things get worse over the next few weeks/months? Do you really think Biden is up for the task?

Re: Trump Admin Meltdown Thread Part V - All Hail King Donald, First of his name

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:43 am
by Steve of phpBB
Joe K wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:41 am
Giff wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 8:37 am
Pruitt wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2020 9:11 pm Fuck man, this is end of days shit.
Yeah, but think about Biden's gaffes!
You might think this comment is really clever, but the two issues aren’t distinct. When a country descends into dangerous instability, there’s value in having a forceful and persuasive opposition leader! Who’s going to play that role if things get worse over the next few weeks/months? Do you really think Biden is up for the task?
Yes?

Re: Trump Admin Meltdown Thread Part V - All Hail King Donald, First of his name

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:44 am
by brian
Joe K wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:41 am
Giff wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 8:37 am
Pruitt wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2020 9:11 pm Fuck man, this is end of days shit.
Yeah, but think about Biden's gaffes!
You might think this comment is really clever, but the two issues aren’t distinct. When a country descends into dangerous instability, there’s value in having a forceful and persuasive opposition leader! Who’s going to play that role if things get worse over the next few weeks/months? Do you really think Biden is up for the task?
Pretty forceful speech today. As good as any I've seen Bernie deliver.

Re: Trump Admin Meltdown Thread Part V - All Hail King Donald, First of his name

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:46 am
by EdRomero
brian wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:44 am
Joe K wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:41 am
Giff wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 8:37 am
Pruitt wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2020 9:11 pm Fuck man, this is end of days shit.
Yeah, but think about Biden's gaffes!
You might think this comment is really clever, but the two issues aren’t distinct. When a country descends into dangerous instability, there’s value in having a forceful and persuasive opposition leader! Who’s going to play that role if things get worse over the next few weeks/months? Do you really think Biden is up for the task?
Pretty forceful speech today. As good as any I've seen Bernie deliver.
Yes. Biden is playing the part very well now

Re: Trump Admin Meltdown Thread Part V - All Hail King Donald, First of his name

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:51 am
by The Sybian
Joe K wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:41 am
Giff wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 8:37 am
Pruitt wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2020 9:11 pm Fuck man, this is end of days shit.
Yeah, but think about Biden's gaffes!
You might think this comment is really clever, but the two issues aren’t distinct. When a country descends into dangerous instability, there’s value in having a forceful and persuasive opposition leader! Who’s going to play that role if things get worse over the next few weeks/months? Do you really think Biden is up for the task?
I was listening to a podcast at 1.5 speed and when they played Biden's comments, it sounded great. I think the key is to speed up his recordings so he doesn't sound so old and tired.

To respond to Giff's comment, I'm not comparing Biden to Trump, he is infinitely better than Trump. I'm comparing Biden to other Dems and to the standard a presumptive nominee should meet. Biden falls short and I have little confidence in his ability to perform through November, let alone serve 4 years as President. If he is the nominee, I'm sure as fuck voting for him, but I'm nervous about his cognitive abilities, age and stamina.

Re: Trump Admin Meltdown Thread Part V - All Hail King Donald, First of his name

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:57 am
by brian
The Sybian wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:51 am
Joe K wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:41 am
Giff wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 8:37 am
Pruitt wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2020 9:11 pm Fuck man, this is end of days shit.
Yeah, but think about Biden's gaffes!
You might think this comment is really clever, but the two issues aren’t distinct. When a country descends into dangerous instability, there’s value in having a forceful and persuasive opposition leader! Who’s going to play that role if things get worse over the next few weeks/months? Do you really think Biden is up for the task?
I was listening to a podcast at 1.5 speed and when they played Biden's comments, it sounded great. I think the key is to speed up his recordings so he doesn't sound so old and tired.

To respond to Giff's comment, I'm not comparing Biden to Trump, he is infinitely better than Trump. I'm comparing Biden to other Dems and to the standard a presumptive nominee should meet. Biden falls short and I have little confidence in his ability to perform through November, let alone serve 4 years as President. If he is the nominee, I'm sure as fuck voting for him, but I'm nervous about his cognitive abilities, age and stamina.
As long as he wins on November 3, that's all that matters. We'd literally be better off with a cat as president if you assume a cat is at least morally neutral.

Re: Trump Admin Meltdown Thread Part V - All Hail King Donald, First of his name

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:02 am
by mister d
Apparently the speech today is going well which means he'll likely follow it up by announcing he's very interested in picking "the colored gal from Georgia" as VP.

Re: Trump Admin Meltdown Thread Part V - All Hail King Donald, First of his name

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:14 am
by brian
I co-sign NLFC's deleted post.

Re: Trump Admin Meltdown Thread Part V - All Hail King Donald, First of his name

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:17 am
by mister d
You have two Biden posts in front of mine, so are we asking for no cross-discussion or no counters to "competent speech, amazing shit"? I'm fine with either, just want to be clear.

Re: Trump Admin Meltdown Thread Part V - All Hail King Donald, First of his name

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:18 am
by Nonlinear FC
brian wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:14 am I co-sign NLFC's deleted post.
Ha.

For the record, I was very bitchily complaining about the ongoing anti-Biden stuff, and asking that it be kept to the Dem Nomination thread, which I've been ignoring.

I have no expectation that this request would've been followed, I was just bitching about the bitching.

But I didn't like the tone, so I yoinked it.

Screeds, like jokes, are always better when you explain them after the fact, right?

Re: Trump Admin Meltdown Thread Part V - All Hail King Donald, First of his name

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:20 am
by Nonlinear FC
mister d wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:17 am You have two Biden posts in front of mine, so are we asking for no cross-discussion or no counters to "competent speech, amazing shit"? I'm fine with either, just want to be clear.
Just to be crystal, I wasn't honestly trying to direct what and where people post stuff. Just frustrated by the presence of the topic at this point.

Everybody do whatever the fuck. I'm capable of scrolling past.

Re: Trump Admin Meltdown Thread Part V - All Hail King Donald, First of his name

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:29 am
by Giff
Joe K wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:41 am
Giff wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 8:37 am
Pruitt wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2020 9:11 pm Fuck man, this is end of days shit.
Yeah, but think about Biden's gaffes!
You might think this comment is really clever, but the two issues aren’t distinct. When a country descends into dangerous instability, there’s value in having a forceful and persuasive opposition leader! Who’s going to play that role if things get worse over the next few weeks/months? Do you really think Biden is up for the task?
I do and I also believe he is surrounding himself with people who would also know how to act in a crisis. He's actually met with protesters (wearing a mask!) and has shown much more presidential leadership than the guy currently overseeing this mess. His response today is 100x more presidential than anything we've heard in the last four years.

Re: Trump Admin Meltdown Thread Part V - All Hail King Donald, First of his name

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:34 am
by mister d
Yesterday he allowed for shooting unarmed citizens, just not above the waist.

Re: Trump Admin Meltdown Thread Part V - All Hail King Donald, First of his name

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 12:18 pm
by Steve of phpBB
mister d wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:34 am Yesterday he allowed for shooting unarmed citizens, just not above the waist.
Unarmed? Or charging an officer while armed with a knife?

Re: Trump Admin Meltdown Thread Part V - All Hail King Donald, First of his name

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 12:24 pm
by Steve of phpBB
There is “the idea that instead of standing there and teaching a cop when there’s an unarmed person, coming at him with a knife or something, to shoot him in the leg instead of in the heart,” Biden said. “There’s a lot of different things [policies] that can change.”
Edit: I deleted my earlier commentary and apologize for the tone if you happened to see it.

Biden is talking about a situation where deadly force is already authorized, and police are trained to shoot to kill. He's musing on whether it'd be better to use non-deadly force instead. Maybe it's unrealistic - I have no idea - but it certainly doesn't sound terrible.