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Post by wlu_lax6 » Sun Feb 09, 2020 7:35 pm

Hey BSF...looking for some guidance here. My son and I got out on a nice day and just had a blast tossing discs around the local course. We have a set of Innova starters (Wolf mid range, Shark mid range, Leopard driver, putter). Thinking of buying a few more so we can each have some options and bring friends with us. Went to amazon and saw Innova and Dynamic. Went to InfinteDiscs and saw more discs than I can even contemplate.

What are your recommendations for giving us some options, variety, and reasonable quantity (at a reasonable cost for a beginner hucker). Don't think I need the big dynamic disc bag or the Puma Disc Golf Shoes.
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Post by BSF21 » Mon Feb 10, 2020 10:45 am

Hello and welcome welcome to the fabulous world of kind of a sport maybe? We're happy to have you.

Without going too deep into this I can see how you can get overwhelmed by InfiniteDiscs and the like. There are a lot of manufacturers and a lot of molds and plastics from each of those to keep straight. I'm going to throw a basic concept list together below to point you in a starting direction and if you have any specifics post back, dm, or text me. I'm happy to help.

#1 -- Equipment
--Get yourself a starter bag or something. Doesn't matter what it is, just something that can hold 6-10 discs and a water bottle (read:beer) and a towel. I started played when I was younger and said "look at those assholes who carry bags, I've got 3 discs, what more could I need". I play tournaments now. I have a backback that holds 18 + 4 in the top, a rosin bag, towels, hydroflasks and a stool. So I'm that asshole. But you need something simple at this point. Depending on how cost shapes up, Dynamic Discs makes a couple of great entry level bags, I carried a Patriot for a while before upgrading to my backpack.

-- Shoes are up to you. I play in Solomon trail runner style shoes. Waterproof but breathable. But I've played in tennis shoes plenty. I just don't like walking around in wet socks for most of a round because the course is soggy or has dew in the morning.

#2 -- Discs

-- Every disc has 3 things you'll want to pay attention to. Disc Type (Distance, Fairway, Mid, Putter), Plastic Type (Will outline below), and Stability (how willing a disc is to 'turn over' when thrown flat to move right (on a RHBH drive) through the air, giving you a big "S" turn for maximum distance.

-- Disc Type is self explanatory. If you want to enjoy the game and get better at it, DO NOT buy high speed distance drivers yet. It's akin to a 25 handicapper buying blades. You don't have the arm speed or the form to throw these correctly yet, and will frustrate yourself greatly trying to do so. Your set that you have is the starter for a reason. The Leopard is a great driver for new players (I throw a Leopard3 which is a flatter more overstable version of yours). Buy putters, mids, and low speed fairway drivers and learn to throw them. Try throwing hyzer to flat off the tees with putters. You'll throw your drivers so much farther and more accurately if you can control lower speed. You'll be a better player and have more fun if you learn the proper form with lower speed discs and work your way up as you improve.

-- Plastic Type: Every manufactuer has their own names for these but Innova set the standard so I'll use those to start. DX Plastic is your cheapest base plastic. I don't care for it but it has it's uses. DX plastic "beats in" quickly, meaning that the discs naturally lose stability as you throw them and hit trees, baskets, and the ground. I find the inconsistency difficult, but they are a great starting point for getting into the game. Champion Plastic is a premium plastic that resists beat in and tends to cause discs to be more overstable. Champion reacts to weather, it can be hard to grip in the rain and painful (for me) to throw when it's cold outside. Star Plastic combines some of the best attributes of other types. It's stable but not overly so, provides a good mix of grip and feel, and is incredibly resilient. Those are your main 3. There are others but they tend to be fringe stuff (GStar: a 'gummier' version of Star, more understable. Ecostar: recycled plastic content. StarLite: lighter versions targeted for women and children to be easier to throw.) I'd stick to the basics until you're comfortable.

-- Stability: This is probably the most important concept and barrier to "why can everyone on youtube throw so far". If you throw Right Hand Back Hand, as in pulling the disc across your body with your right foot as your plant forward foot when you throw, a disc that is OVERSTABLE will have a tendency to go straightish, then as the disc loses speed, move hard from right to left to the ground, often skipping considerable distance when landing. A NEUTRAL disc will want to go straight or possibly move slightly from left to right when thrown, then finish softer, but still right to left at the end of flight. An UNDERSTABLE disc will have the tendency to move left to right immediately and continue on that path through the flight, often landing right or straight of the start of the throw. To make it really fun, this is all reversed if you throw Right Hand Forehand, sometimes called "flick".
--If you're interested in what the numbers on the disc mean 1/2/3/4 -- 1: Speed- The arm speed needed to generate a designed flight of that disc. 2: Glide - How far the disc tends to glide out. 3: Turn -- This is stability. The lower this number, the more understable the disc and the more likely it is to "turn over" out of your hand. 4: Fade -- The other stability number, the higher this is, the harder the disc will want to return to ground to the left at the end of flight.

All of those are effected by the angle in which you throw the disc. ( / HYZER) -- ( - NEUTRAL) -- ( \ ANHYZER). For example, you can get an overstable disc to act more understable by releasing it on an Anhyzer angle. Conversely, you can throw a neutral or understable disc on a hyzer angle and perform the single most fun act in Disc Golf, the "Hyzerflip". Where the disc comes out at an angle, then just "snaps" to flat and rides that dead straight line for a nice long drive.

Youtube is your friend. Check out JomezPro and CentralCoast Disc Golf. Danny Lindhal does great form and training videos for beginners. Dave Feldberg does great clinic videos.

Looking back I know I got longwinded here. You really can't go wrong at the beginning as long as you stay away from throwing 13 speed overstable distance drivers. All the companies make great plastic. I throw a mix of Discmania, Innova, Dynamic, MVP, and Westside. I find a mold I like and I mess around with different plastics and stages of wear. A few ideas of discs for beginners here if you're looking to add specifics. The starter packs are great too especially to have lying around to play with friends.

Putters: All feel here. Some are beaded, some aren't. Putting is entirely feel. I'd suggest finding a feel you like and using it across the board for short drives and putts.
- Dynamic: Judge/Warden/Crown
- Discraft: Magnet/Putt-r
- Innova/Discmania: Aviar, P2, P3, Dart, Rhyno

Mids:
DD Truth, Discraft Buzzz/BuzzzSS/BuzzzOS, Innova Shark/Mako/Mako3 and Roc/Roc3, Westside Pine

Fairways:
Innova Teebird/Teebird3, Innova Leopard, Innova Valykrie, DD Explorer, Discmania FD/FD2


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Post by tennbengal » Mon Feb 10, 2020 12:55 pm

Good lord. That's a fantastic write-up.

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Post by wlu_lax6 » Mon Feb 10, 2020 1:01 pm

Yeah way better than one website I found that primarily said, don't but a green, brown, or camo disc...they are hard to find in the woods. Good hint but figured there was more depth to the numbers on the discs and the fact that most folks I see are walking with way more than 3 discs on the course.

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Post by BSF21 » Mon Feb 10, 2020 1:09 pm

wlu_lax6 wrote:
Mon Feb 10, 2020 1:01 pm
Yeah way better than one website I found that primarily said, don't but a green, brown, or camo disc...they are hard to find in the woods. Good hint but figured there was more depth to the numbers on the discs and the fact that most folks I see are walking with way more than 3 discs on the course.
Huge fan of bright pink and yellow discs. I don't like hunting for them and I HATE losing them.

I probably have some starterish discs around here I could box up and send to you if you like as well. Just let me know. They're easy to hoard at 12-15$/ea
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Post by BSF21 » Mon Feb 10, 2020 1:09 pm

tennbengal wrote:
Mon Feb 10, 2020 12:55 pm
Good lord. That's a fantastic write-up.
Thank you. I really love the sport. Makes it easy to talk about.
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Post by wlu_lax6 » Mon Feb 10, 2020 1:49 pm

BSF21 wrote:
Mon Feb 10, 2020 1:09 pm
wlu_lax6 wrote:
Mon Feb 10, 2020 1:01 pm
Yeah way better than one website I found that primarily said, don't but a green, brown, or camo disc...they are hard to find in the woods. Good hint but figured there was more depth to the numbers on the discs and the fact that most folks I see are walking with way more than 3 discs on the course.
Huge fan of bright pink and yellow discs. I don't like hunting for them and I HATE losing them.

I probably have some starterish discs around here I could box up and send to you if you like as well. Just let me know. They're easy to hoard at 12-15$/ea
I don't mind buying them either....just got overwhelmed with choice and needed a few disc names to order. Either that or go all in and just break out the Aerobie

Also for bag...I carry mine in one of those drawstring bags that everyone gives out for free. 4 disc golfs, a Life's Good frisbee, a freebie promotional plastic one, and a fold up frisbee.

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Post by BSF21 » Mon Feb 10, 2020 2:12 pm

wlu_lax6 wrote:
Mon Feb 10, 2020 1:49 pm
BSF21 wrote:
Mon Feb 10, 2020 1:09 pm
wlu_lax6 wrote:
Mon Feb 10, 2020 1:01 pm
Yeah way better than one website I found that primarily said, don't but a green, brown, or camo disc...they are hard to find in the woods. Good hint but figured there was more depth to the numbers on the discs and the fact that most folks I see are walking with way more than 3 discs on the course.
Huge fan of bright pink and yellow discs. I don't like hunting for them and I HATE losing them.

I probably have some starterish discs around here I could box up and send to you if you like as well. Just let me know. They're easy to hoard at 12-15$/ea
I don't mind buying them either....just got overwhelmed with choice and needed a few disc names to order. Either that or go all in and just break out the Aerobie

Also for bag...I carry mine in one of those drawstring bags that everyone gives out for free. 4 disc golfs, a Life's Good frisbee, a freebie promotional plastic one, and a fold up frisbee.
I see lots of people use those too. Great option for hauling around some plastic. Rough option for carrying brewskis.
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Post by wlu_lax6 » Mon Feb 10, 2020 4:05 pm

BSF21 wrote:
Mon Feb 10, 2020 2:12 pm
wlu_lax6 wrote:
Mon Feb 10, 2020 1:49 pm
BSF21 wrote:
Mon Feb 10, 2020 1:09 pm
wlu_lax6 wrote:
Mon Feb 10, 2020 1:01 pm
Yeah way better than one website I found that primarily said, don't but a green, brown, or camo disc...they are hard to find in the woods. Good hint but figured there was more depth to the numbers on the discs and the fact that most folks I see are walking with way more than 3 discs on the course.
Huge fan of bright pink and yellow discs. I don't like hunting for them and I HATE losing them.

I probably have some starterish discs around here I could box up and send to you if you like as well. Just let me know. They're easy to hoard at 12-15$/ea
I don't mind buying them either....just got overwhelmed with choice and needed a few disc names to order. Either that or go all in and just break out the Aerobie

Also for bag...I carry mine in one of those drawstring bags that everyone gives out for free. 4 disc golfs, a Life's Good frisbee, a freebie promotional plastic one, and a fold up frisbee.
I see lots of people use those too. Great option for hauling around some plastic. Rough option for carrying brewskis.
See that is the problem BSF....too many single use tools. You need a more universal brewski carrier that can be used sans disc golf. May I suggest

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Post by Sabo » Mon Feb 10, 2020 4:48 pm

I had one of those five-pack carries once. It was very useful on the (real) golf course.
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Post by wlu_lax6 » Tue Jun 23, 2020 3:20 pm

For Father's day made the whole family go play with me. Pretty excited that I shot a 3 over par. Now I was not playing from the tips but did remind my nearly 14 year old I am still the far superior sportsman in the family (used to say athlete but he rips off pull-ups, picking and is evolving into a solid mountain biker).

Also the UDisc mobile app is nice.

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Post by BSF21 » Tue Jun 23, 2020 3:29 pm

wlu_lax6 wrote:
Tue Jun 23, 2020 3:20 pm
For Father's day made the whole family go play with me. Pretty excited that I shot a 3 over par. Now I was not playing from the tips but did remind my nearly 14 year old I am still the far superior sportsman in the family (used to say athlete but he rips off pull-ups, picking and is evolving into a solid mountain biker).

Also the UDisc mobile app is nice.
Awesome!

...I had an ace yesterday during my Monday lunch round with my buddy. 295'. Thought I over-drove the hole, turned back, picked my bag up, and turned around to my buddy going "I think it's close" and caught sight of it smashing chains.

2nd one this year!
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Post by Giff » Tue Jun 23, 2020 3:43 pm

I saw someone post about playing kick golf. Is that a thing?
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Post by EdRomero » Tue Jun 23, 2020 4:05 pm

My friend was really into it, and to get a good group together he let us non-players use traditional frisbees (snobs look down at us and call them lids). Anyway, it was tough for me to learn how to throw the real discs, especially since I played so infrequently. The rule adjustment we made was lid throwers just had to hit the chains. My favorite course to play on: https://www.maplehilldiscgolf.com/

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Post by BSF21 » Tue Jun 23, 2020 4:12 pm

EdRomero wrote:
Tue Jun 23, 2020 4:05 pm
My friend was really into it, and to get a good group together he let us non-players use traditional frisbees (snobs look down at us and call them lids). Anyway, it was tough for me to learn how to throw the real discs, especially since I played so infrequently. The rule adjustment we made was lid throwers just had to hit the chains. My favorite course to play on: https://www.maplehilldiscgolf.com/
Maple Hill is a crown jewel of DG. I have no idea how you managed that with a normal Frisbee.

I can honestly say I can throw a disc golf disc somewhere between 350-375' on a good day. I can't throw a normal beach Frisbee 50 feet accurately. Totally different tool/mechanics.
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BSF21 wrote:
Tue Jun 23, 2020 4:12 pm
EdRomero wrote:
Tue Jun 23, 2020 4:05 pm
My friend was really into it, and to get a good group together he let us non-players use traditional frisbees (snobs look down at us and call them lids). Anyway, it was tough for me to learn how to throw the real discs, especially since I played so infrequently. The rule adjustment we made was lid throwers just had to hit the chains. My favorite course to play on: https://www.maplehilldiscgolf.com/
Maple Hill is a crown jewel of DG. I have no idea how you managed that with a normal Frisbee.
Oh it's a mess, but the course is so beautiful and there's a lot of joy making those one or two good throws (to go along with the 90 bad ones). Drinking helps.

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EdRomero wrote:
Tue Jun 23, 2020 4:19 pm
BSF21 wrote:
Tue Jun 23, 2020 4:12 pm
EdRomero wrote:
Tue Jun 23, 2020 4:05 pm
My friend was really into it, and to get a good group together he let us non-players use traditional frisbees (snobs look down at us and call them lids). Anyway, it was tough for me to learn how to throw the real discs, especially since I played so infrequently. The rule adjustment we made was lid throwers just had to hit the chains. My favorite course to play on: https://www.maplehilldiscgolf.com/
Maple Hill is a crown jewel of DG. I have no idea how you managed that with a normal Frisbee.
Oh it's a mess, but the course is so beautiful and there's a lot of joy making those one or two good throws (to go along with the 90 bad ones). Drinking helps.
I have never seen a disc golf course that charged. I thought they were all munis that you just rolled up to, waited until the dude in jean shorts before you played his hole and hoped on (and in some cases hope you don't get mugged). But man Maple Hill looks amazing.

Bluemont is not Maple Hill
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Post by BSF21 » Sat Aug 01, 2020 9:03 pm

10/39 on 48 holes of pain today. 15 birdies and finished at +2. That’s what separates champs from chumps...
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p*ssy
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Yea. Not great.

Don’t know why it makes me a pessy. Was e the vowel?
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Sorry buddy maybe the cross-cross-platform jokes are too much to follow. Because it was a “u”.
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Sorry buddy maybe the cross-cross-platform jokes are too much to follow. Because it was a “u”.
Probs. Idk. Good burn?
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