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Re: The Captain Trips Anxiety thread

Post by DSafetyGuy » Tue Jul 28, 2020 11:42 am

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Re: The Captain Trips Anxiety thread

Post by HaulCitgo » Tue Jul 28, 2020 11:42 am

mister d wrote:
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My risk of a car death is much higher than the national average because I'm on insane highways on a daily basis.
And the next time I force you onto the highway, we now have an strong analogy.
And no one is forcing you to go to school either. Teach them yourself.

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Re: The Captain Trips Anxiety thread

Post by Nonlinear FC » Tue Jul 28, 2020 11:49 am

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But you're wrong about the educational impact. It will be real. And you do compete with private school kids for opportunities and other states kids' and other countries kids. That's real. And there will be an impact on achievement and testing. I agree to some extent that you just adjust the pace of learning (way slower) and move on but don't dismiss those costs. They're real and will impact opportunities.
Not sure if you are responding to me, I never said there isn't a real impact. And it's not just educational. My wife is doing a ton of work on this with the CDC and other entities... I'm fully aware of the negative impact.
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Re: The Captain Trips Anxiety thread

Post by DSafetyGuy » Tue Jul 28, 2020 11:50 am

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If you don't want to go to work dont go. You have a choice too
So, what do you do when your kids' teachers don't go?
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Re: The Captain Trips Anxiety thread

Post by HaulCitgo » Tue Jul 28, 2020 11:53 am

Yeah to me dsafe makes the best points here but I figure they hire someone else until they can't anymore. And that's rightful. Folks have different circumstances and risk thresholds. If the numbers dont work for your circumstances then you should stay home. No job is worth that. If they do then let's help everyone get through this and accept the risk. I'm not that far off you guys but this holier than thou shit is silly. You have to do a real risk analysis and make an independent decision. Same as I will.
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Post by govmentchedda » Tue Jul 28, 2020 11:56 am

You're proving our point.
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Re: The Captain Trips Anxiety thread

Post by BSF21 » Tue Jul 28, 2020 11:57 am

It’s clear that several of us are wasting our time here. You can’t reason empathy into someone. You either got it or you don’t. I hope nothing unfortunate happens to you or your loved ones HC but I’m done trying to convince you that small concessions might be worth someone else’s life or livelihood.
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Re: The Captain Trips Anxiety thread

Post by duff » Tue Jul 28, 2020 11:58 am

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Yeah to me dsafe makes the best points here but I figure they hire someone else until they can't anymore. And that's rightful. Folks have different circumstances and risk thresholds.
You can't just hire teachers right off the fucking street. In some states there is a teacher shortage. Here in Indiana, some districts have a hard enough time finding teachers during a "normal" school year. You think any Joe Schmoe could come in and start teaching 2nd graders or AP World History? Throw in they would be forced inside for up to 8 hours a day with little to no break with not just their classroom 1/2 full of kids, but all the other classes in the school. Plus all of the support staff that helps a school run.
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Re: The Captain Trips Anxiety thread

Post by HaulCitgo » Tue Jul 28, 2020 12:00 pm

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It’s clear that several of us are wasting our time here. You can’t reason empathy into someone. You either got it or you don’t. I hope nothing unfortunate happens to you or your loved ones HC but I’m done trying to convince you that small concessions might be worth someone else’s life or livelihood.
Dude I'm scared or else I wouldn't bother debating. The question is how small are those concessions and what's the likelihood that it will impact someone else's life. It's makes no sense to be so binary with your analysis.

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Re: The Captain Trips Anxiety thread

Post by mister d » Tue Jul 28, 2020 12:11 pm

"and what's the likelihood that it will impact someone else's life"

In your scenario of forcing risk, how many either have to quit their jobs or end up with long-term health consequences or worse? What % would you project to be impacted assuming you'd see both of those results as impacts?
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Re: The Captain Trips Anxiety thread

Post by Nonlinear FC » Tue Jul 28, 2020 12:21 pm

There's a fundamental problem with the last 3 pages on this thread...

It is not Trump propaganda to suggest that there are very serious and potentially long-lasting public health issues with not having (especially young) students not able to go to school... Many children only receive a steady diet (breakfast and lunch) if they attend school. Many children with abusive or highly dysfunctional homes are only able to receive services and interventions by attending a school. There is a longer list, but I don't feel like typing it all out and I think a lot of you guys already know this.

To present the discussion as simply "it's not worth the risk, just so little Hakim or Susie doesn't fall behind academically" is not really what's up for debate here.

Citgo is right, this isn't a binary or B/W discussion.

The way I look at this is this: If you are a family that has the ability to keep your kid home, you are playing a part in potentially reducing the spread and hopefully keeping students, teacher and staff safe. So, while the hybrid models may suck for teachers from an administrative and quality of education standpoint, it's actually probably necessary to mitigate the OTHER potentially negative outcomes of keeping EVERYONE home.

I get that there's still a debate to be had on that point. But I think those other negative impacts are missing from this debate.
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Re: The Captain Trips Anxiety thread

Post by BSF21 » Tue Jul 28, 2020 12:23 pm

HaulCitgo wrote:
Tue Jul 28, 2020 12:00 pm
BSF21 wrote:
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It’s clear that several of us are wasting our time here. You can’t reason empathy into someone. You either got it or you don’t. I hope nothing unfortunate happens to you or your loved ones HC but I’m done trying to convince you that small concessions might be worth someone else’s life or livelihood.
Dude I'm scared or else I wouldn't bother debating. The question is how small are those concessions and what's the likelihood that it will impact someone else's life. It's makes no sense to be so binary with your analysis.
What I see is your willingness to make that fear someone else’s problem. The concession is not forcing citizens who chose teaching as a profession to make a choice between providing for their families and greatly increasing their risk of exposure to something that has proven very deadly. There is no likelihood this is impact someone else’s life, it is a certainty. People will get sick and die due to these decisions. This is changing the terms of the deal after the fact and accepting that some loss of human life is ok for your life as you know it to “likely” go on unabated. Doctors and nurses made that choice. Cops make that choice. Johnnie made that choice. America’s educators, most of which are woefully under supported and underpaid did not. Binary works fine. Wait it out and greatly diminish potential risks or worry about Boeing’s share prices and whether or not little Suzy or Jimmy is going to get dinged for a 6 month gap of not being present in a classroom on their college applications.
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Re: The Captain Trips Anxiety thread

Post by Nonlinear FC » Tue Jul 28, 2020 12:24 pm

Which brings up something I've been low key harping on: Decisions need to be made on a zip code by zip code basis. And where that's not feasible, at a minimum it should be each school district tailoring things to their reality.

This idea that some governor (or fucking moron president) can make some decree that stretches across massive disparities and socio-economic realities is just monumentally stupid.
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Re: The Captain Trips Anxiety thread

Post by Nonlinear FC » Tue Jul 28, 2020 12:26 pm

Nonlinear FC wrote:
Tue Jul 28, 2020 12:21 pm
There's a fundamental problem with the last 3 pages on this thread...

It is not Trump propaganda to suggest that there are very serious and potentially long-lasting public health issues with not having (especially young) students not able to go to school... Many children only receive a steady diet (breakfast and lunch) if they attend school. Many children with abusive or highly dysfunctional homes are only able to receive services and interventions by attending a school. There is a longer list, but I don't feel like typing it all out and I think a lot of you guys already know this.

To present the discussion as simply "it's not worth the risk, just so little Hakim or Susie doesn't fall behind academically" is not really what's up for debate here.

Citgo is right, this isn't a binary or B/W discussion.

The way I look at this is this: If you are a family that has the ability to keep your kid home, you are playing a part in potentially reducing the spread and hopefully keeping students, teacher and staff safe. So, while the hybrid models may suck for teachers from an administrative and quality of education standpoint, it's actually probably necessary to mitigate the OTHER potentially negative outcomes of keeping EVERYONE home.

I get that there's still a debate to be had on that point. But I think those other negative impacts are missing from this debate.

And let me by crystal: I think EVERYONE should be holding off on going back until October, at the earliest. Especially(!) in places where there is a major surge going on.
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Re: The Captain Trips Anxiety thread

Post by mister d » Tue Jul 28, 2020 12:26 pm

Nonlinear FC wrote:
Tue Jul 28, 2020 12:21 pm
So, while the hybrid models may [strikethrough]suck for[/strikethrough] kill teachers from an administrative and quality of education standpoint, it's actually probably necessary to mitigate the OTHER potentially negative outcomes of keeping EVERYONE home.
Every district I'm aware of is still providing meals and has through the summer.
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Re: The Captain Trips Anxiety thread

Post by BSF21 » Tue Jul 28, 2020 12:27 pm

Nonlinear FC wrote:
Tue Jul 28, 2020 12:21 pm
There's a fundamental problem with the last 3 pages on this thread...

It is not Trump propaganda to suggest that there are very serious and potentially long-lasting public health issues with not having (especially young) students not able to go to school... Many children only receive a steady diet (breakfast and lunch) if they attend school. Many children with abusive or highly dysfunctional homes are only able to receive services and interventions by attending a school. There is a longer list, but I don't feel like typing it all out and I think a lot of you guys already know this.
I will absolutely concede this point but will say that the fact that public education is systemically intertwined to a child’s nutrition and overall well-being is sickening and this is a great place to put a foot down and start reforms on this.
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Post by govmentchedda » Tue Jul 28, 2020 12:28 pm

BSF21 wrote:
Tue Jul 28, 2020 12:27 pm
Nonlinear FC wrote:
Tue Jul 28, 2020 12:21 pm
There's a fundamental problem with the last 3 pages on this thread...

It is not Trump propaganda to suggest that there are very serious and potentially long-lasting public health issues with not having (especially young) students not able to go to school... Many children only receive a steady diet (breakfast and lunch) if they attend school. Many children with abusive or highly dysfunctional homes are only able to receive services and interventions by attending a school. There is a longer list, but I don't feel like typing it all out and I think a lot of you guys already know this.
I will absolutely concede this point but will say that the fact that public education is systemically intertwined to a child’s nutrition and overall well-being is sickening and this is a great place to put a foot down and start reforms on this.
EXACTLY MY POINT
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Post by A_B » Tue Jul 28, 2020 12:29 pm

Nonlinear FC wrote:
Tue Jul 28, 2020 12:24 pm
Which brings up something I've been low key harping on: Decisions need to be made on a zip code by zip code basis. And where that's not feasible, at a minimum it should be each school district tailoring things to their reality.

This idea that some governor (or fucking moron president) can make some decree that stretches across massive disparities and socio-economic realities is just monumentally stupid.
Even this doesn't work in a lot of cases. The schools my youngest go to all qualify for free breakfast/lunch for every student. The people in my neighborhood by an large don't need that I don't imagine. But you cross a road and it's lower income housing. But you are correct that I can be more comfortable saying that my kid can stay home and not fall behind too far which won't be the case for a lot of kids. That is definitely a more than fair point.
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Re: The Captain Trips Anxiety thread

Post by HaulCitgo » Tue Jul 28, 2020 12:47 pm

BSF21 wrote:
Tue Jul 28, 2020 12:23 pm
HaulCitgo wrote:
Tue Jul 28, 2020 12:00 pm
BSF21 wrote:
Tue Jul 28, 2020 11:57 am
It’s clear that several of us are wasting our time here. You can’t reason empathy into someone. You either got it or you don’t. I hope nothing unfortunate happens to you or your loved ones HC but I’m done trying to convince you that small concessions might be worth someone else’s life or livelihood.
Dude I'm scared or else I wouldn't bother debating. The question is how small are those concessions and what's the likelihood that it will impact someone else's life. It's makes no sense to be so binary with your analysis.
What I see is your willingness to make that fear someone else’s problem. The concession is not forcing citizens who chose teaching as a profession to make a choice between providing for their families and greatly increasing their risk of exposure to something that has proven very deadly. There is no likelihood this is impact someone else’s life, it is a certainty. People will get sick and die due to these decisions. This is changing the terms of the deal after the fact and accepting that some loss of human life is ok for your life as you know it to “likely” go on unabated. Doctors and nurses made that choice. Cops make that choice. Johnnie made that choice. America’s educators, most of which are woefully under supported and underpaid did not. Binary works fine. Wait it out and greatly diminish potential risks or worry about Boeing’s share prices and whether or not little Suzy or Jimmy is going to get dinged for a 6 month gap of not being present in a classroom on their college applications.
Get off your high horse. Nobody else signed up for this shit either. But ask dsafe maybe he did. Teachers are fortunate enough to have been insulated for 6 months and are just now having to deal. Go try that conversation with a grocery clerk that makes way less than teachers.

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Re: The Captain Trips Anxiety thread

Post by mister d » Tue Jul 28, 2020 12:53 pm

My brother can't run his grocery store online, dude.
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Post by HaulCitgo » Tue Jul 28, 2020 12:54 pm

From last year one of the richest schools around can't either so I'm sure APS (or worse south Georgia) will pull that off just fine.

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Re: The Captain Trips Anxiety thread

Post by BSF21 » Tue Jul 28, 2020 12:59 pm

I've got nothing nice to say at this point.

You got me buddy. Teachers are fortunate in this situation. I'm straightened out now.

Enjoy the rest of your "discussion" folks.
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Post by HaulCitgo » Tue Jul 28, 2020 1:06 pm

Sorry if your binary mind won't permit thoughtful discussion. Consider school.

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Post by DSafetyGuy » Tue Jul 28, 2020 1:12 pm

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Nobody else signed up for this shit either. But ask dsafe maybe he did.
I cannot get into specifics, but I promise you I am going to be looked after to a much, much greater degree than anyone who goes back to any school. And I was leaning toward backing out of having signed up until it was made clear of how I was going to be looked after (original verbal sign-up date was in January, the reassurances did not come until May or early June and they were willing to be very generous with concessions if I wasn't comfortable with things).
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DSafetyGuy wrote:
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If they are canceling conventions and other large gatherings, why schools?
Not all conventions. In fact, there are some people who just this morning grabbed a box and threw some daily life items needed for three weeks of living in some sort of pseudo-furnished housing (toilet paper, paper towels, hand sanitizer, dish soap, etc.). And they have already bookmarked the website with the paperwork they will need to complete and present upon returning to their home state. Some even talked about how they're going to self-quarantine in their master bedroom and bath for two weeks after getting home, which will include the partner staying home moving some furniture from the master into the spare bedroom and other furniture into the master bedroom while the traveler is gone.

Between discussing this and some return-to-school plans, some of these people have had a really sensational morning.
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Re: The Captain Trips Anxiety thread

Post by travzilla » Tue Jul 28, 2020 2:04 pm

I am a teacher, usually alternating between working full-time terms and as a sub. Our (Nova Scotia's) back to school plan was just announced this week - all students 100% back in the schools starting Sept 8th, with distancing in classrooms and masks in hallways. While many people, espcially in my poorer, "essential worker" heavy region, desperately need kids in school, I still hear a significant amount of comments that people are worried, thinking of homeschooling, etc. All of this in a province where Covid has for all intents and purposes been eradicated since early June (No known active cases, no positive tests for weeks, other than two people who travelled in from the states).

So while I feel fairly comfortable going back to work in a month, I have tried to think about what I would be feeling if I was in the same position in say Texas or California. As the situation appears now I think I would be of the mindset that working in a school would result in a near 100% chance of being infected, and I would then have to make some tough choices from there. I think I would probably opt out unless there was no other option. Almost certainly wouldn't continue to sub.

My response to Haul CItgo would be: yes, obivously everything in a society is a series of risk calculations and nothing is black and white. Long before covid I would probably still not teach in the states because of all the bullets flying around. But I feel like when you are talking about trade-offs (schooling is to critical therefore some teachers have to die), that comes across to me as the one being binary. Your arguements feel based in a defeatest mindset of "this is the way things are now so lets just adapt to the new reality", while I think everyone else is pulling their hair out at your posts because the obvious answer is to the risk calculation is to defeat the pandemic rather than to accept and live with it. Yes, a disease and a commute and playing softball are all risks to one extent or another, but not in an on/off state. If actions can be taken to mitigate risk (like say, not feeding an airborne pandemic by confining hundreds of thousands of people to cramped buildings) then a functioning society should look into that.

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Re: The Captain Trips Anxiety thread

Post by duff » Tue Jul 28, 2020 2:22 pm

Nonlinear FC wrote:
Tue Jul 28, 2020 12:21 pm
There's a fundamental problem with the last 3 pages on this thread...

It is not Trump propaganda to suggest that there are very serious and potentially long-lasting public health issues with not having (especially young) students not able to go to school... Many children only receive a steady diet (breakfast and lunch) if they attend school. Many children with abusive or highly dysfunctional homes are only able to receive services and interventions by attending a school. There is a longer list, but I don't feel like typing it all out and I think a lot of you guys already know this.

To present the discussion as simply "it's not worth the risk, just so little Hakim or Susie doesn't fall behind academically" is not really what's up for debate here.

Citgo is right, this isn't a binary or B/W discussion.

The way I look at this is this: If you are a family that has the ability to keep your kid home, you are playing a part in potentially reducing the spread and hopefully keeping students, teacher and staff safe. So, while the hybrid models may suck for teachers from an administrative and quality of education standpoint, it's actually probably necessary to mitigate the OTHER potentially negative outcomes of keeping EVERYONE home.

I get that there's still a debate to be had on that point. But I think those other negative impacts are missing from this debate.
Schools are still providing lunches and meals to those that were receiving them. Sure, those families had to make an effort to get to the high school to pick up food but it was there. Now other services, that is hard. But that isn't the schools sole responsibility. Those services are most likely provided by a third party, non-school entity. Those places should have plans in place to provide their services in another function, if possible.

But once again, it comes back to risking the well being a our children and those that have dedicated their lives to educating and supporting them. They may not die if they get sick, but we still do not understand the after of Covid. From reports I have read, it doesn't look good for having a healthy future.

That should be more than enough to delay until October, but even better, until the new year. There is are enough resources is this country to be able to provide funding and materials for those school corporations that need the assistance. We need to be pushing for better funding for our public schools. Most people generally don't give a fuck about public education. Most people view school as their tax paying daycare. But after the initial virtual learning, that tune has changed somewhat. It is a thankless and hard fucking job.
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Post by Nonlinear FC » Tue Jul 28, 2020 2:27 pm

And I tend to fall on that side of the discussion, duff, but it had been badly tilted due to the binary nature. That's all.
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Post by A_B » Tue Jul 28, 2020 2:54 pm

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The first one is actually pretty good.
I would never sign off on a shortened version. The first joke gets maybe 20% of the audience to laugh and then the second one makes that 20% stop but reels in a different small percentage who are part of the in-group who knew the first joke sucked and that's the joke.
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Post by cerrano » Tue Jul 28, 2020 3:20 pm

travzilla wrote:
Tue Jul 28, 2020 2:04 pm
I am a teacher, usually alternating between working full-time terms and as a sub. Our (Nova Scotia's) back to school plan was just announced this week - all students 100% back in the schools starting Sept 8th, with distancing in classrooms and masks in hallways. While many people, espcially in my poorer, "essential worker" heavy region, desperately need kids in school, I still hear a significant amount of comments that people are worried, thinking of homeschooling, etc. All of this in a province where Covid has for all intents and purposes been eradicated since early June (No known active cases, no positive tests for weeks, other than two people who travelled in from the states).

So while I feel fairly comfortable going back to work in a month, I have tried to think about what I would be feeling if I was in the same position in say Texas or California. As the situation appears now I think I would be of the mindset that working in a school would result in a near 100% chance of being infected, and I would then have to make some tough choices from there. I think I would probably opt out unless there was no other option. Almost certainly wouldn't continue to sub.

My response to Haul CItgo would be: yes, obivously everything in a society is a series of risk calculations and nothing is black and white. Long before covid I would probably still not teach in the states because of all the bullets flying around. But I feel like when you are talking about trade-offs (schooling is to critical therefore some teachers have to die), that comes across to me as the one being binary. Your arguements feel based in a defeatest mindset of "this is the way things are now so lets just adapt to the new reality", while I think everyone else is pulling their hair out at your posts because the obvious answer is to the risk calculation is to defeat the pandemic rather than to accept and live with it. Yes, a disease and a commute and playing softball are all risks to one extent or another, but not in an on/off state. If actions can be taken to mitigate risk (like say, not feeding an airborne pandemic by confining hundreds of thousands of people to cramped buildings) then a functioning society should look into that.
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Re: The Captain Trips Anxiety thread

Post by HaulCitgo » Tue Jul 28, 2020 4:25 pm

Yeah agreed too. Too bad it took a Canadian (joking). But really around here we have moved on to pandemic normal. It's just so everywhere and there is no political will to close again so the overall mindset has changed to how to live with it vs how to stop it cause it's not likely to be stopped until we roll our sleeves up. Once you get there it's all risk assessments. Nothing is stopping so just a matter of how much is too much and that's driven by how important the task is. Education right there with beer and mail.

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Post by mister d » Tue Jul 28, 2020 4:32 pm

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... cause it's not likely to be stopped until we roll our sleeves up.
Is closing schools, which I assume would represent the largest indoor mass gathering spaces in total, not an instance of rolling up one's figurative sleeves to stop the pandemic?
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Post by HaulCitgo » Tue Jul 28, 2020 5:05 pm

Virus is alive and well already and there hasn't been school. Might be well advised to preclude an explosion of cases but definitely not a solution.

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Post by A_B » Tue Jul 28, 2020 6:51 pm

HaulCitgo wrote:
Tue Jul 28, 2020 5:05 pm
Virus is alive and well already and there hasn't been school. Might be well advised to preclude an explosion of cases but definitely not a solution.
Need that swaggy p gif here.
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Post by A_B » Tue Jul 28, 2020 9:51 pm

Eta: the two most famous swaggy p memes apply here actually.
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Post by Gunpowder » Wed Jul 29, 2020 5:37 am

So the deep state experts say there's going to be millions of cases unless we lock down, so we kinda lock down and there aren't millions of cases right away. People use this to say that the deep state illuminati scientists are full of shit and can't be trusted so they rush back out to enjoy their freedom to not wear a piece of cloth for a few months, and now we have millions of cases. #WWG1WGA

I just don't know how you govern a nation of people this mind-numbingly dense.
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Post by A_B » Thu Jul 30, 2020 8:58 pm

I am at a hotel and have eaten in at two restaurants so far. That's twice as many as i had eaten at in lexington since this all started. Social distancing was pretty good. Masks on for everyone in casino.

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Post by rass » Fri Jul 31, 2020 9:49 am

My wife just went to the Post Office in an attempt to send some baby clothes to her cousin in Northern Ireland and was told not to bother since the UK is not accepting packages from the US at this time? Fucking embarrassing.


Also, I was overruled/outvoted and my oldest will be starting her first job in the next week or two, working at an ice cream shop downtown. Their safety protocols, at least from a customer standpoint, seem very thorough and we've been comfortable getting ice cream there all summer long, but I would have preferred she wait until next year.
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Post by Steve of phpBB » Fri Jul 31, 2020 11:36 am

rass wrote:
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Also, I was overruled/outvoted and my oldest will be starting her first job in the next week or two, working at an ice cream shop downtown. Their safety protocols, at least from a customer standpoint, seem very thorough and we've been comfortable getting ice cream there all summer long, but I would have preferred she wait until next year.
Yeah, my 17yo has been working this entire time, or at least since the initial six-week panic passed. I'd tell her no, but she'd do it anyway.
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