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Re: War (uunh!) What is it Good For?
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2016 1:01 pm
by brian
It's sickening. And the short answer is that VA funding doesn't result in pork for Congress like more weapons do. So that's what gets the funding.
Re: War (uunh!) What is it Good For?
Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 10:34 am
by The Sybian
Pruitt wrote:That is a horrifying statistic. Naively I ask how can the military spend $600 billion a year and not dedicate more money to this huge problem?
Because they are "entitlements" taken by a bunch of lazy drains on society. They just sit around in their hospital beds with their amputated limbs and brain trauma, taking MY money. I support the troops, not like those pansy Libtards trying to avoid wars and take my money to give to those lazy bastards living it in VA hospitals with their free food and no rent.
Re: War (uunh!) What is it Good For?
Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 1:19 pm
by Pruitt
One thing a Canadian immediately notices in the States is that the military plays such a major part in the country, and in its culture.
It just boggles the mind that the men and women who CHOOSE to serve the country are discarded so quickly when they can no longer play an active role. It's just vile.
Re: War (uunh!) What is it Good For?
Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 5:45 am
by Pruitt
Re: War (uunh!) What is it Good For?
Posted: Sat Feb 29, 2020 1:08 pm
by Johnnie
US, Taliban sign deal aimed at ending war in Afghanistan
Under the agreement, the U.S. would draw its forces down to 8,600 from 13,000 in the next 3-4 months, with the remaining U.S. forces withdrawing in 14 months.
Just move them here to PSAB since our focus seems to be Iran these days.
Re: War (uunh!) What is it Good For?
Posted: Sat Feb 29, 2020 2:04 pm
by brian
I thought the United States didn't negotiate with terrorists.
Re: War (uunh!) What is it Good For?
Posted: Sat Feb 29, 2020 10:03 pm
by Shirley
brian wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 2:04 pm
I thought the United States didn't negotiate with terrorists.
Right. So therefore, they aren't terrorists!
Re: War (uunh!) What is it Good For?
Posted: Sat Feb 29, 2020 10:08 pm
by Joe K
Eh, Trump’s Administration is right to end this war. It’s been incredibly counterproductive and there’s no reason to keep a US military presence there. We should’ve called it a day after killing bin Laden (if not sooner since he wasn’t even in Afghanistan).
Re: War (uunh!) What is it Good For?
Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 1:14 pm
by Baloney
Australia's defence minister said today that a damning report into alleged war crimes by special forces in Afghanistan had made her 'physically ill', as footage showed an SAS soldier shooting an unarmed man as he cowered in a field.
Linda Reynolds said she was 'totally and utterly shocked and mortified' after the four-year inquiry found evidence that Australian troops had killed 39 unarmed civilians and prisoners during the US-led war in Afghanistan.
Some of the atrocities allegedly committed by Australian SAS members were so horrendous that more than 50 pages in Thursday's report had to be redacted.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... eport.html
Re: War (uunh!) What is it Good For?
Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2020 2:22 pm
by The Sybian
Baloney wrote: ↑Fri Nov 20, 2020 1:14 pm
Australia's defence minister said today that a damning report into alleged war crimes by special forces in Afghanistan had made her 'physically ill',
That's why you don't appoint a woman Defense Minister.
Re: War (uunh!) What is it Good For?
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2021 7:50 am
by Johnnie
Re: War (uunh!) What is it Good For?
Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2021 8:32 pm
by Johnnie
The Onion from 10 years ago (almost to the day):
U.S. Quietly Slips Out Of Afghanistan In Dead Of Night
From the AP yesterday:
US left Afghan airfield at night, didn’t tell new commander
It's called OPSEC. Look it up. We don't trust you new people not to tell our enemies.
Bye, bitch.
Re: War (uunh!) What is it Good For?
Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2021 8:44 pm
by EnochRoot
That's what I figured when I saw this news item earlier today.
Re: War (uunh!) What is it Good For?
Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2021 4:49 pm
by Johnnie
My buddy sums up my feelings too.
It was always going to end like this. You can't force the people of a country to want to even have a country in the first place.
Re: War (uunh!) What is it Good For?
Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2021 5:10 pm
by degenerasian
We knew this would happen, but this is incredibly fast.
Re: War (uunh!) What is it Good For?
Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2021 5:32 pm
by P.D.X.
Be proud of that. It's been a hell of an effort for the last two decades and I'm still proud to be part of an organization that has facilitated massive global stability over the last 74 years.
K.
Re: War (uunh!) What is it Good For?
Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2021 5:36 pm
by Johnnie
This is also ridiculous:
As is this:
Re: War (uunh!) What is it Good For?
Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2021 6:53 pm
by degenerasian
With little resistance from the Afghan army, does this mean the Taliban are now one of the most well-equipped, as well-equipped as any army in the world, with an airforce? You have to think, much of the equipment, knowledge and man-power are now in Taliban hands?
What a disaster. I'm not sure how things could have turned out worse for the Afghanistan citizens and the entire region.
Re: War (uunh!) What is it Good For?
Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2021 7:02 pm
by P.D.X.
You think we left all our things there?
Re: War (uunh!) What is it Good For?
Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2021 7:09 pm
by degenerasian
P.D.X. wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 7:02 pm
You think we left all our things there?
You may have taken the good stuff but the Taliban are driving around Kabul right now in their new Humvees!
Re: War (uunh!) What is it Good For?
Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2021 7:17 pm
by EnochRoot
What should've been a coordinated police action to root out OBL became Cheney/Rumsfeld's war machine. Fuck those fascists.
Instead, the MIC got rich and we got played on the world stage, as Russia, Iran & Saudi Arabia has bankrolled the Taliban for the past twenty years (of course we bankrolled them when they fought the Soviets in the 70s).
There was some wise old Afghani cleric dude I saw last month where his thoughts were captured in a tweet:
The United States have all the fancy watches. We have the time.
Re: War (uunh!) What is it Good For?
Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2021 7:22 pm
by brian
Everyone famously remembers and blames Gerald Ford for losing the Vietnam War.
Re: War (uunh!) What is it Good For?
Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2021 8:08 pm
by wlu_lax6
Guy from combat flip flops posted this. It is an interesting perspective.
https://www.combatflipflops.com/blogs/c ... in-taliban
Re: War (uunh!) What is it Good For?
Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2021 8:34 pm
by Johnnie
Re: War (uunh!) What is it Good For?
Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2021 8:48 pm
by Johnnie
This whole ass tweet and responses to it.
Re: War (uunh!) What is it Good For?
Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2021 9:06 pm
by Johnnie
Maybe it's just me, but I'm just not feeling the military leadership telling me how to feel part of this bullshit.
Like, ok. Cool. Whatever, man.
Re: War (uunh!) What is it Good For?
Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2021 8:05 am
by Johnnie
Holy fucking shit
Re: War (uunh!) What is it Good For?
Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2021 9:25 am
by EnochRoot
I’m not saying this didn’t happen, but deep-fake video manipulation is a thing.
Re: War (uunh!) What is it Good For?
Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2021 10:06 am
by A_B
EnochRoot wrote: ↑Mon Aug 16, 2021 9:25 am
I’m not saying this didn’t happen, but deep-fake video manipulation is a thing.
WEll the Wall street Journal says it happened so I'm inclined to believe it.
Re: War (uunh!) What is it Good For?
Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2021 10:56 am
by EnochRoot
A_B wrote: ↑Mon Aug 16, 2021 10:06 am
EnochRoot wrote: ↑Mon Aug 16, 2021 9:25 am
I’m not saying this didn’t happen, but deep-fake video manipulation is a thing.
WEll the Wall street Journal says it happened so I'm inclined to believe it.
I’m not saying it didn’t happen. I’m simply pointing out that is an instance where a deep-fake can make it look a whole lot more impactful (man falling to his death from a thousand feet, for example). After reading the article, the WSJ didn’t discuss the veracity of the video. In today’s age, we need to do being that.
Re: War (uunh!) What is it Good For?
Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2021 11:08 am
by Johnnie
I mean, I'm sure a quick Twitter video search can show you the dead bodies.
What a weird moment to bring up something like that.
Cool story, bro. Fake things are on the internet.
Re: War (uunh!) What is it Good For?
Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2021 12:14 pm
by elflaco2
bring it close to home, have a team member stuck there now. She had travelled to see family and was due back this week.. unsure of her return situation.
Re: War (uunh!) What is it Good For?
Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2021 12:45 pm
by Giff
Damn elflaco.
Re: War (uunh!) What is it Good For?
Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2021 1:32 pm
by EnochRoot
Johnnie wrote: ↑Mon Aug 16, 2021 11:08 am
I mean, I'm sure a quick Twitter video search can show you the dead bodies.
What a weird moment to bring up something like that.
Cool story, bro. Fake things are on the internet.
It sounds like the perfect time to bring up something like that, considering this is precisely where they would get used (to sway public opinion one way or the other). Unpopular opinions need to be gauged, lest we find ourselves in a neverending war.
“Cool story, bro.” Fuck off, military.
Re: War (uunh!) What is it Good For?
Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2021 1:41 pm
by Johnnie
K.
Re: War (uunh!) What is it Good For?
Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2021 1:48 pm
by brian
Considering the US military hasn’t won a war since 1945 (for a variety of reasons including and especially political ones) maybe it’s time to consider paring down that $750 billion defense department budget.
Re: War (uunh!) What is it Good For?
Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2021 2:25 pm
by duff
brian wrote: ↑Mon Aug 16, 2021 1:48 pm
Considering the US military hasn’t won a war since 1945 (for a variety of reasons including and especially political ones) maybe it’s time to consider paring down that $750 billion defense department budget.
Nope. Need to increase it. How else are we ever going to finally win. Works for sports teams, right? The one that spends the most ends up winning. So crank it up to 11 (trillion that is)! Who needs domestic infrastructure? We haven't been attacked in 20 years. And John Bolton told me it was because we have had a presence everywhere in the world. If we don't spend more money and bigger and better guns and missiles and tanks and planes and boats and toilets then we will never win another war. We are America! We always win wars even when we don't. Fuck the poor of our nation! We need to cure the world of these non-Christian terrorists. Only way to do that is to spend more money. Money money money!!!
Re: War (uunh!) What is it Good For?
Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2021 2:36 pm
by brian
duff wrote: ↑Mon Aug 16, 2021 2:25 pm
brian wrote: ↑Mon Aug 16, 2021 1:48 pm
Considering the US military hasn’t won a war since 1945 (for a variety of reasons including and especially political ones) maybe it’s time to consider paring down that $750 billion defense department budget.
Nope. Need to increase it. How else are we ever going to finally win. Works for sports teams, right? The one that spends the most ends up winning. So crank it up to 11 (trillion that is)! Who needs domestic infrastructure? We haven't been attacked in 20 years. And John Bolton told me it was because we have had a presence everywhere in the world. If we don't spend more money and bigger and better guns and missiles and tanks and planes and boats and toilets then we will never win another war. We are America! We always win wars even when we don't. Fuck the poor of our nation! We need to cure the world of these non-Christian terrorists. Only way to do that is to spend more money. Money money money!!!
To that point, I found this article pretty interesting. It's pretty apparent the military leadership does nothing but lie to the civilian leadership (and therefore the American people). There are currently four times as many four-star generals as there was during World War II. (44 to 11).
There's big money in stringing along Americans and depleting the public treasury.
Re: War (uunh!) What is it Good For?
Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2021 2:37 pm
by sancarlos
Hard to believe this guy was a Republican
Re: War (uunh!) What is it Good For?
Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2021 3:43 pm
by P.D.X.
#wasf