FINALLY DONE.
It's that time of year frogs, and that means it's mock draft time. This year I present to you the most half-assed effort of the past few years, as I didn't put much effort into something I didn't think was going to happen. It's still way too overloaded with GIFs that will probably render it unloadable and most of those gifs did not appreciate the compression attempts at all.
There were a lot of missed Pro Days this year, so I think that favors names over athletes in many cases. It will probably also lessen the risk-taking that some of these GMs make. Assuming they can all figure out the technology and this actually happens. I'm still skeptical.
Oh well, let's get it.
1. Cincinnati Bengals select JOE BURROW, QB, LSU
No need to get cute. The Bengals take Cajun Colt Brennan after thinking about it for 4 seconds. I don’t buy the Justin Herbert smokescreen….if the Bengals take Justin fuckin’ Herbert over Burrow then I don’t know what the shit they are doing and they should be contracted.
I wasn’t fully on the Burrow train at first because he plays in one of those “everyone is open” offenses and it seemed like every time I watched he was throwing a dicey sideline pass that should have been picked, but apparently that was all just weird coincidence because he’s ridiculously good. I’ve never seen a QB prospect this accurate – every single pass is placed immaculately, even if he’s running diagonally backwards and turning to throw a dig route 15 yards down field across his body. It’s uncanny. Urban Meyer sat this guy behind JT BARRETT for two seasons. Urban Meyer is so dedicated to his late 1990’s offense that he’d probably sit him behind JT Money if he had the chance.
-How?
Anyway, you have to pick nits with Burrow. “Oh, his arm strength isn’t great”. Yeah well maybe he isn’t Lincoln Hawk but his arm is plenty strong enough. Yeah, some of those sideline throws that should have been picked might suggest his arm isn’t like bionic or anything, but every QB has balls that should be picked and Burrow throws them significantly less frequently than everybody else except maybe Jake Fromm, but Jake Fromm has the arm talent of Jake from State Farm.
Ehh, I mean you have to look hard and long to find other instances of this.
How much arm strength do you need? This is a dart, rolling out, right on the money. Burrow is basically impersonating Sam Darnold at an elite level. He also loves to take deep shots, and they are usually also right on the fuckin’ money. Yeah he throws a lot of short passes but so does everyone these days and he probably throws less of them than everyone else. Every other pass Tua throws is a screen. Burrow doesn’t need many screens.
I will pick nits though because that’s what you gotta do I guess….it was too easy for him and that is something to consider for about 3 of those 4 seconds. There’s usually at least one guy who is wide the fuck open:
And if not, his entire receiving core is gonna be drafted in the first couple rounds of the draft and he can just throw the ball up to whichever one of them is single-covered on that play and he’s probably going to catch it.
I had the same concerns with Marcus Mariota and Baker Mayfield, for example. The offense was just so easy for them. But even still, the QB still has to find the right guy and still has to put the ball where he can catch it. I would have taken Mariota and Mayfield in spite of that, and yeah it didn’t work out with Mariota and it may not work out with Mayfield (who the hell knows what to expect from him now), but you don’t pass up on Aaron Rodgers just because Jeff Tedford also coached Kyle Boller and you don’t pass up on Burrow because Mariota is afraid to take a chance downfield. Burrow can’t get hard without throwing downfield 10 times a game and I’m taking my chances that he can figure it out when the windows get smaller in the NFL. And really, the NFL windows are growing yearly. Why the hell do you think everyone other than Mason Rudolph is a decent QB nowadays? Yeah I know I liked Rudolph coming out, suck a D.
Like Rudolph though, Burrow would move quickly away from pressure when it did get through his NFL line and I think he’ll need to work on that in the NFL. But you don’t pass on a guy this accurate because of that. You don’t pass on this guy because of the potential upside if he translates to the NFL. And you sure as fuck don’t pass on him because you like Justin Got Damned Herbert. If the Bengals do this then the franchise should be forcefully wrested from Mike Brown’s stingy fingers and given to Harambe’s family. Why does the NFL allow it’s version of Donald Sterling to continue existing just because he hasn’t been taped being racist?
“Oh, but Burrow doesn’t want to play for Cincinnati”. Maybe, but I don’t think he’d sit out. That offense can be really good, right away. Draft John Ross in fantasy because Burrow is going to hit him for like 5 TDs in the first two weeks before he goes on IR with a quad pull. And if he does refuse to play, trade him then for 3 first rounders because you know damn well some team will give them up.
2. Washington Redskins select CHASE YOUNG, EDGE, El Universidad del Ohio Estado
It seems like every year I’m not buying the hype about a top edge rusher, and this year it’s Chase Young. Now, Chase Young is a phenomenal athlete. He’s extremely quick off the ball, always first off the snap on the defensive line. He’s quick as shit around the edge. But to me, that’s it for him at the moment. Sure, he’s relatively stout and it’s not like OTs don’t have to work to stop him, but he’s not generally going to go through them to get to the QB from what I’ve seen. He’ll pile up coverage sacks and sacks against lesser OTs, kinda like Josh Allen last year. Now, Josh Allen is a beast and yeah, I didn’t like Josh Allen. But I tried to talk myself into Josh Allen during my write-up last year because he did show some nice rush ability if you kept watching but I just couldn’t shake my initial read on him, and that was a mistake. I don’t have the same hold-ups with Chase Young. I think he’ll be decent-to-good. He’s too athletic not to make an impact; he’d probably be an Allen-level elite elite athlete if he had Combine numbers. But I don’t see anything like the absolute dynamo he’s being made out to be.
I originally had a trade in this spot, but after doing so realized this draft isn’t all the great as far as high-end talent outside of OT and WR (though at both and particularly at WR I think it’s more great depth than top-notch prospects), and I doubt the Redskins are likely to trade out of this spot without getting a huge return for it. I would have given them that huge return if Tua weren’t injured, but…well, he was injured, and he got injured a lot before that, and I don’t think anyone will move up to 2nd overall for him right now. I may not be all that big on Chase Young - scouting pass rushers is hard, particularly when you’re doing it 5 minutes at a time on Youtube, because more often than not they aren’t doing jack shit and as with some of the other guys in previous years, I just didn’t see enough of Chase Young doing jack shit at an elite level - but this is generally what top Edge rushers look like, this is where you have to draft to get them, and that alone is probably enough to cement this pick. Even if Young doesn’t live up to the expectations, worst case he’s still probably going to be an 8+ sack guy off athleticism alone.
3. Los Angeles Chargers trade with Miami Dolphins (how about a pick swap, 3rd rounder and 2nd rounder next year? Might be enough.
Los Angeles Chargers select TUA TAGOVAILOA, QB, ALABAMA
I wanted to have the Dolphins trade up to 2 to take Tua, but changed my mind after seeing Washington’s options after the trade. If it gets to this point, and Miami is truly just going to “let the board come to them” and all that dumb cliché shit then I do think LAC will try to jump over them. The Chargers need a QB, and they need a reason for people to give a shit about them. Nobody will care after they have Tua but they don’t need to know that so just humor them. Hold on a second…
PUT YOURSELF ON MUTE GETTLEMAN!!
…ok. Back to this.
I understand the injuries but people have been jerking off about Tua for like three years now and suddenly he’s going to drop to 5 because the Lions really want Jeff Okudah? I considered just sending Tua to the Lions, because you need to take advantage of these situations when they present themselves, and if not for the injuries I probably would have. I mean, look at the Dolphins – they’ve been pissing into the ocean breeze at QB for 20 years trying to find their next Dan Marino and they got jack shit so far. And unfortunately for them they gonna keep pissin’.
Tua is like Burrow in that he put up video game numbers in an easy offense, but he’s just significantly more scattershot in my opinion.
Burrow never misses. Tua doesn’t drastically miss but he’s still off way more than I thought he’d be. Yeah he can run, but he ain’t Burrow. He’s more Kyler Murray to me.
Anyway, yeah yeah, same flags apply to him – everyone is wide open, the entire offense is getting drafted in the first round, if everyone is covered he can throw it up to his like 4th best receiving option and he’ll still pluck it out of the sky off some dude’s nameplate:
But this is still a QB that can sling it and run like a slot receiver, and that’s probably not dropping to 5th overall unless his hip is truly fucked.
4. NY Giants select JEDRICK WILLS, OT, ‘BAMA
It would be hilarious to mock a DT to Gettleman’s boys but I can’t not give them an OT here. The Giants have needed OL for years now, and they happen to be in position here to take a really good one. Of course, if the Lions decide that they are Jeff Okudah away from finally getting over the hump I wouldn’t be surprised if they tried to trade down into the lower single digits to some team like Carolina that might want to go up and get Tua. There are like 4 truly top notch OTs in this draft and they’d be guaranteed to get one if they didn’t drop too far. The only shot to do that right now IMO is a team loving Justin Herbert, which they shouldn’t, or loving Okudah/Simmons/another OT so much that they’d want to trade substantial assets to go up and get him, and I doubt that will be the case.
I didn’t really know who to send to the Giants because I am not familiar enough with the kind of scheme they want to run and I initially wanted to give them Wirfs, but after watching Jedrick Wills I think he is the guy I would bet on if I had to put money on just one of them to become a perennial NFL All-Pro. He’s one of those guys that almost look like they are just going half-speed because they move so easily. He’s really quick dropping into pass blocking sets, mirrors edge rushers really well, and generally just stonewalls them when he gets his hands on them. Very rarely is he flailing or out of control.
5. Miami Dolphins select
No. I can’t do it.
Miami Dolphins select Justin…..GUHH no man I can’t even write it down
Fuck it. Miami Dolphins select JUSTIN HERBERT, QB, OREGON
Nobody:
Absolutely positively nobody:
U. of Oregon: WE MADE AN ELITE VERSION OF BLAINE GABBERT!
Justin Herbert is a great athlete (truly an elite athlete among QBs even by NFL standards). He’s got a great arm. He’s tall. Awesome.
He also misses like every throw by at least a little bit. That’s great that he’s mobile and he can run like flea flickers and all of that Mike Mularkey stuff that no one gives a shit about anymore, but when you aren’t doing that he’s going to be busy throwing incompletions, snuffing out all YAC, and occasionally murdering your WRs.
Yeah I know he got hit as he threw but his games are positively littered with that. I realize it was much more difficult for him than it was for Tua and Burrow. Like, exponentially. Supposedly their coaching was garbage and he had restrictions on what he could do as well. But you should still throw the ball near where it’s supposed to go if you’re going to be an NFL top 5 pick. Herbert does not. I would not draft him in the first round.
Yeah, Josh Allen was scattershot, but with Allen it was more a complete lack of pocket presence and a hilarious inconsistency, throwing dimes 40 yards down field and then the next play standing flat-footed and throwing a swing pass into the 8th row. With Herbert it’s just missing throw after throw after throw. He looked good against Colorado (I believe it was Colorado at least) in the games I watched. He looked awful in the others.
I bet Miami’s glad they won all those games in December.
6. Detroit Lions select JEFF OKUDAH, CB, Ohio State
Every single mock draft on Earth has it Burrow/Young/Okudah, and while I mixed in a trade I’m essentially going to go with that as well. I don’t love Okudah – I might be the only person on Earth that doesn’t – but this draft sucks as far as I can tell and I don’t see a corner I can move ahead of him. I don’t want to give them a receiver or a lineman (defensive or offensive) and I don’t think there’s a safety that could go here nor is there an edge guy explosive enough for this spot (don’t search that term on Pornhub).
Okudah is one of those ultra rare big guys who can move, and that’s going to get him drafted even with a slow-ish (for an elite CB at least) 40 time.
He’s also pretty good in run support, shedding blocks pretty well for a corner:
But – I don’t know, outside of the very basics there I don’t think he’s all that exciting as a prospect. Draft Twitter has been blowing cubic meters of hot cum over this guy for months and saying he’s Darrelle Revis but other than the foot quickness, I don’t see that. He’ll stick with guys really well at the line of scrimmage but good WRs seem to just find separation from him downfield, even if it’s just a small bit of it. In the NFL, that’s all you need (unless your team drafted Justin Herbert). Even guys like Tee Higgins who aren’t burners found some space. He’s also lauded for ball skills that I don’t think I saw at any point of the videos I watched. Again, I slacked this year, and you can’t learn much in ten minutes, but that’s all I have to base these opinions on and this is what I saw from Juicy Jeff. Like Chase Young, he should still be a good player and I guess that’s really all you hope for realistically with most first rounders.
7. Carolina Panthers select ISAIAH SIMMONS, ILB/S, CLEMSON
Isaiah Simmons is an absolute freak athlete in the Shazier mold. He ran in the 4.3s, he can legitimately play ILB and safety, and he’s legitimately in play to go anywhere as high as 3rd to the Lions. Why is he lasting until 7? For all of the speed and power and coverage ability, I don’t think he has the elite instincts to match. In a lot of plays that I saw, he just seemed to react a bit slowly before committing and sometimes looked a bit lost:
(lined up at the top in the “safety”-ish spot)
When he does decide to go, he goes hard and he tackles the shit out of people and really, #7 is really high for an ILB. Prior to Devin White last year I think the last one to go this high was….Luke Keuchly, 7th overall to the Panthers. Of course, like I say seemingly every year, “this guy is not Luke Kuechly”. I almost think Simmons should be used more like a safety than an ILB. Either way he’ll immediately be the fastest LB in the entire NFL so he’s not going to last very long. Which makes sense because he’s not an EDGE guy. Get it lol
8. Arizona Cardinals select TRISTAN WIRFS, OT, IOWA
Arizona finally decides to keep their QB for more than a year. Now it’s time to give Kyler Murray a pocket that he can completely ignore.
Wirfs is an ath-a-lete. Yes, that’s a common thread that you may notice with players selected at the top of drafts, but most NFL All-Pros at just about every position except center, QB, nose tackle and believe it or not safety are truly elite elite ELITE athletes. I’m sure NFL teams notice this. They probably have their own metrics but for me, all I can do is use numbers provided by relativeathleticscores.com, which reduces all Combine/Pro Day numbers to a single metric from 0-10. 10 is Deion Sanders, 0 is Dionne Warwick. Anyway, if you look at the 24 OTs in the NFL since 1990 that have made a first-team All-Pro AND who also have numbers in the database, 58% (14) had draft year RAS numbers over 9, four more had numbers over 8, and of those guys 11 where over 9 when compared to all OTs in the entire database (not just to their draft year). Wirfs if over 9.5. So when I talk about the difference between a good or great athlete and an elite athlete, this is what I’m talking about.
Of course, the top of those lists are littered with elite athletes who sucked hot ass, so that’s just one part of the puzzle. Not only did Wirfs show out at the combine, but he’s got the tape to back up this selection as well. He’s quick as shit and not the most stout against power rushes but he’s stout enough and really, in today’s NFL that’s what I’m looking for. He’s a 1990’s Broncos kind of OL. And who cares if he played right tackle? In the NFL today both tackles are arguably equally important and the right side is where most of the beast pass rushers line up. And Wirfs is the kind of guy who can stick with them. Jedrick Wells and Andrew Thomas and Matthew Peart and a whole lot of top OTs this year played right tackle.
So his name is kinda dumb and he sounds like a Secret of Mana character. That’s fine, since no one’s ever going to say it again after he goes to play for Arizona.
9. Jacksonville Jaguars select DERRICK BROWN, DT, AUBURN
So I was watching Auburn play LSU and Brown wasn’t doing anything for the first minute and I was thinking “well this guy sucks JFC am I done yet let’s just move on why does this take so long”, but then he sacked Joe Burrow with his right guard.
That guard isn’t some scrub, he’s going to be drafted this week as well in the middle rounds and he’ll probably start some NFL games. After that Brown just started rampaging through double teams and being a general all-around menace. Is it a concern that he’s merely a decent athlete by NFL standards? Yes but it’s not a dealbreaker…NFL DTs stars are generally elite athletes as well (excluding some true nose tackles), but there are a handful of guys who managed to make All-Pro teams without being 9+ RAS guys – Marcell Dareus, Chester McGlockton, Jerome Brown (though pre-modern era Combine numbers should be taken with grains of New Orleans Saints-sized salt) – that suggest Brown can potentially do this in the NFL. I look at two guys with similar profiles in Vernon Butler and Akiem Hicks. Butler rampaged through lines at Louisiana Tech but can’t do it in the NFL, while Akiem Hicks was the guy that makes the Bears defense really go when it’s playing at 2018 levels. Which one will he be? Magnets….how do they work?
10. Cleveland Browns select ANDREW THOMAS, OT, GEORGIA
This pick took about 4 seconds, only decision was between giving the Browns Andrew Thomas or Mekhi Becton. I settled on Thomas because he seems to be a more “traditional” top OT prospect and I mean, the Browns have had success picking OTs named Thomas before. And really, Cleveland has made about 4 good draft picks this millennium so I’m sure they remember them quite clearly.
Thomas started off as the top OT prospect and then kind of fell a bit but I don’t think there’s really any great reason for it, and I almost slotted him to NYG at #4. He likes to murder just like all of the other OTs in this class, he’s got pretty good mobility, he’s not elite athletically but he’s still really really good there and that’s fine, and his technique needs some work but it’s also still starting at a good level. Sometimes he shuffles into pass sets a bit slowly and has to turn early but other than that, he’s a guy you expect to plug into your lineup and forget about for the next ten years, even though it never fuckin’ works like that almost ever and there’s no reason that’s an accepted draft trope. I could watch offensive linemen in space all day:
11. NY Jets select MEKHI BECTON, OT, LOUISVILLE
The last of the top tackles goes to the Jets to protect Sam Darnold from all of those spooky ghosts. Becton is a mountain of a human who also put up like top 2% all time RAS numbers (which take size into account). He’s got some of great highlights just pushing people into last year, in fact this play (he’s the left tackle) is probably why Gettleman had that lotion on his desk:
I expected to love this guy as a prospect, but it seems to often that he is kind of lumbering or almost flailing to hit rushers that I can’t put him above the other three. And I mean that’s kind of to be expected, this motherfucker is a 6’7” and a legit 370 lbs. He still could turn into Johnathan Ogden and in most other years he’d be the first OT off the board. Hell, he still might be this year. You could make an argument for just about any of these guys in any order, so I can’t wait until Skip Bayless and Steven A. do just that.
12. Oakland Raiders select CEEDEE LAMB, WR, OKLAHOMA
I thought about the Raiders trading up to get a receiver, because theirs are atrocious and would struggle to get separation in a divorce court, but the top 10 is littered with tackle-needy teams and the WR class is also extremely deep this year. So the Raiders stand pat and get to pick their guy at 12.
Who will their guy be? Who will be open downfield only to be ignored by Derek Carr in 2020? Barring a surprise the choice will be between Lamb, Jerry Jeudy and Henry Ruggs and I am going to go with Lamb. Jeudy just reminds me too much of Amari Cooper and Gruden shipped him out of town so why bring him back? Lamb on the other hand has a lot of Antonio Brown in him IMO, plus his feet are a perfectly acceptable 98.6 degrees. Lamb didn’t set the Combine on fire but he’s still a good athlete and he’s just always open. He runs great routes, he’s a smooth strider that just pulls away from DBs, and he has insane body control at the catch point. He also kind of reminds me of Santonio Holmes, though he’s far more advanced as a receiver than Holmes was at Ohio State. I think he’s the first WR off the board.
13. San Francisco 49ers select JERRY JEUDY, WR, ALABAMA
This is a very year to need a wide receiver and only pick in the teens. Jerry Jeudy used to be considered a borderline lock top 5 pick but it’s a deep year for receivers, everyone needs a tackle, and none of the Alabama guys had the season that would catapult them into that range. And yeah they have a lot of talent but in general, top NFL WRs dominated their team’s production in college, no matter who they played for and who else they had around them. Odell Beckham did even though he had Jarvis Landry across from him at LSU. Michael Thomas did. DeAndre Hopkins did even with Sammy Watkins and Martavis Bryant also on his Clemson team. So it’s a concern.
But Jeudy is too quick and explosive to pass on him over said concern. He’s lightning quick and has silly jukes that you’ve probably seen before (the one near the endzone is an all-time – I got tired of GIFfing but it’s easy to find). His routes aren’t great but they are still good because he’s so quick. He does get a bit dropsy at times as well. Aside from the obscene jukes you look at him and you really think you’re watching Amari Cooper.
He also wears a Star of David necklace because his last name starts like “Jew”. I’m not joking. L’Chaim!
14. LET’S GET WEIRD
Tampa trades 1.14 to NY Jets in exchange for Jamal Adams
NY Jets select HENRY RUGGS III, ALABAMA
Why not? If the Jets are intent on trading away Adams, why not do it when you know who you’ll be getting out of the draft pick. For the Bucs, I mean sure they could draft a safety. But they are going all-in on Tom Brady this year (it’s SO weird to type that), so why not trade the pick for a known quantity who can be that guy right now?
This makes too much sense, so expect the NFL Zoom app to force close while they work out the details.
Hank Ruggs has top-end all-time speed in addition to real actual WR skills. He’s like John Ross but without the constant drops and injury troubles (so far). And yeah I know that doesn’t sound like a ringing endorsement but during the 7 minutes that John the Broken is not injured and/or dropping balls he’s usually wide open 50 yards downfield. Ruggs can do that too.
My only major concern with Ruggs is that for a guy this quick, he struggles a bit at times getting a clean release off the line. I don’t think it’s significant enough to sink him though and you don’t get guys that run 4.27 40’s every year.
15. Denver Broncos select JAVON KINLAW, DT, SOUTH CAROLINA
This one was tough. The Broncos need an entire receiving corps, but just miss out of the top tier guys and they may as well wait until later on. Particularly with so many top NFL WRs coming outside the first round (more than any other position, I believe). They need a corner, but I do not like CJ Henderson and I don’t really know what to do with Jeff Gladney. I don’t think they’ll go safety. They also need an OT but the top tier is gone there and I’m not sure if the 2nd tier is going to start this early. It might, of course – it’s kinda important to have a good OL and you always have surprised like the time last year when Houston took a guy from West Mississippi Culinary Academy in round 1 – but I don’t want to start that run just yet. Looking at the board, there is one blue chipper left that stands out, and that’s Javon Kinlaw. Denver can probably use a backfield wrecking DT. Who couldn’t use that?
Kinlaw isn’t Derrick Brown. He’s not a bull in a Chinese shop (or something like that), but he is a super twitched up murder machine:
He’s not as consistent as Brown, he’s quite tall for an interior DL and can get stood up because of it, loses his balance at times, and it seems like he’s more TARGET KILL DESTROY at all times than Brown and that gets him into trouble sometimes like this yoink move from the Alabama center:
But when he does stay low, he comes in like a wreccccckiiinnnnngggg ballllllllll. I think you take the good with the not as good and there’s a ton of good here IMO.
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16. Atlanta Falcons select JEFF GLADNEY, CB, TCU
Gladney was my favorite corner in this draft, and then they all went to the Combine and ran 4.5s so who even knows anymore. But he’s tenacious, a smooth strider, all those buzzwords that the people on TV use when describing guys who are going to disappoint in the NFL relative to draft expectations at a minimum of about 50%. He did this to a guy once:
Sidenote – TCU has a lot of prospects this year which is complete bullshit because what THE FUCK are these uniforms? Why have they not been burned in a Waco-sized fire? These should be ISIS’s flag and here’s TCU proudly wearing them like they are declaring a jihad on my retinas.
In real life if CJ Henderson is here the Falcons would probably take him, but I am trying to not get caught up in groupthink so I’m not going to follow along with that. The Falcons take Jeff Gladney and never look back, which probably isn’t true because someone later in the draft will probably be better so of course they’ll look back what are you an idiot?
17. Dallas Cowboys select XAVIER McKINNEY, SAFETY, ALABAMA
I love this guy. The Cowboys have needed a safety for what feels like 30 years and finally one falls into Jerry Jones’s lap, only this time he’s not going to get in trouble for it. McKinney is a more of a “strong” safety type but not only is he physically imposing, he appears to be a very heady player as well.
He is the anti-Delpit when it comes to tackling:
He often seems to know exactly what play is coming. He makes plays like this a few times a game:
And THEN he does stuff like this which is just what the fuck come on:
There are top middle linebackers that can’t do that. Shit, Kenneth Murray would be waiting 5 yards off the ball to make those tackles that McKinney made in the backfield. He’s insane. The only thing keeping him on the board this long is his slowish 40 time – he ran just over 4.6. But, like I mentioned earlier, safety is the one defensive position where pure athleticism doesn’t seem to be damn near a prerequisite. Roy Williams, Ed Reed, Eric Weddle, Brian Dawkins, the aforementioned Earl the Squirrel, Landon Collins – these guys all put up rather pedestrian Combine numbers. McKinney’s 40 time was also really hurt by poor starting times, just like Jalen Reagor’s, which means that either he’s slow to accelerate or he just doesn’t start well out of a stance no safety will ever start from. I think his actual straight line speed is decent and I think he’ll be a Pro Bowl safety in the NFL. Like a real one, not 8th alternate Andy Dalton style because Londraspidous Willowhedge dropped out last minute with athlete’s gout.
(Five gifs? You can tell which positions I watched first)
18. Miami Dolphins select ANTOINE WINFIELD JR, FS, MINNASOTAH
Dolphins could really use anybody good so I’ll just go to someone I would want to draft. Winfield is one of my favorite players in this draft, a smart safety with good speed and range who turns bad decisions into turnovers. This play is pure insanity put into a needle and shot directly into my ravaged veins:
The commentary on that play is hilarious as they watch either the win get snatched out of their hands or vice versa (not sure which team’s announcers are even on the call). He can close too – doesn’t quite come up with this one but you can see the burst and aggressiveness (the receiver is KJ Hamler btw):
He’s got the bloodlines too, as he is the son of former NFL-er Art Schlichter.
19. Oakland Raiders select CESAR RUIZ, C, MICHIGAN
I’m probably generally sticking to the accepted script too much through the first 20 or so picks so I need to start getting wild, because that’s what NFL teams do, they get wild. Particularly once we get into the 20s, when they start drafting the LJ Colliers of the world.
Ruiz doesn’t fall into that group, though. He’s awesome. Watching Ruiz is like watching a Pouncey twin as he just ping-pongs through the defensive levels popping dudes in the face at each stop, like a trucker just knocking out glory holes as he brings knockoff wireless speakers from Amazon across America. He’s arguably stouter than Pouncey A and Pouncey B as well. I believe the Raiders need some OL help, so here it is. I doubt they need any glory hole help.
20. Jacksonville Jaguars select CJ HENDERSON, CB, FLORIDA
Boring Florida team selects boring Florida cornerback and bores their way to 7-9 while Doug Marrone chases away any player who dares to excel on the field. CJ Henderson has the build and athletic traits of top corners, though he didn’t run any agility drills (that’s the one area where I think RAS could be improved – guys that don’t do certain drills should have certain flags shown). But based on the size, 40 and bench press, he’s a top 0.2% athlete at the position. And this is NFL cornerback, perhaps the most Twitched-up place on Earth this side of a Fortnite lobby.
But what does he do? I didn’t see this guy do much of anything. It’s hard to judge corners without All-22, but he just looked like a guy to me even in his highlight tapes. You know, a JAG. Hey! This makes perfect sense! This is a roster full of just a guys, destined to just a guy their way to 6 wins in a part of the country no one pays attention to. Jacksonville just re-opened their beaches in the middle of a historic pandemic and there’s still not a soul alive that gives a shit about it. It’s ok Jacksonville it gets better.
21. Philadelphia Eagles select a GOT DAMN RECEIVER
Which one? Hmmm…not sure Shenault makes sense. I don’t think Mims is nuanced enough to save a team by himself. Reagor? Maybe but I think they want a more prototypical #1. Justin Jefferson? This I could see, he’s like a version of Jordan Matthews who can actually run.
I got it.
Philadelphia Eagles select DONOVAN PEOPLES-JONES, WR, MICHIGAN
DPJ was dinged for a lack of production, but people finally realized recently that hey, maybe his QB being complete pigeonshit might have contributed to this. Hey DPJ, produce, would ya????
He would later make a really nice TD catch on that drive so all’s well that end’s well!
Ok, so Shea Patterson sucks. We all know this now. Still, outside of maybe DeAndre Hopkins and a few other examples in the NFL, top tier WRs still find a way to produce, even with shitty QBs, right? Well….not really. It wasn’t just that the throws weren’t great, even though that helped to highlight DPJ’s ability to catch balls that are off-target. Much like Calvin Johnson at Georgia Tech, the opportunities just weren’t there. GT has always run that triple option from 1940 so it was no surprise there and no one held that against Megatron because why would you, but in Michigan’s case, it was that their QB was so limited that they couldn’t run a normal offense. Brilliant tactician Jim “VIOLENTLY ATTACK LIFE WITH YOUR TALONS AT 700%!!!” Harbaugh schemed up a bunch of runs and WR screens to work around this and I gotta say, it was as exciting as shrink-wrapping pallets. As Harbaugh always tells his players, “VICTORY IS BREASTMILK AND COMPETITION IS THE TITTIES!”. Or something like that.
So if you want to watch a guy stalk-block corners for 60 plays a game, turn on some Michigan film and hone in on number nine. When he’s not doing that though he’s a big fast WR that can jump out the gym, go up and get the ball, get separation through his route-running, and control his body really well in the air when the ball gets somewhat near him. I have a feeling that he’ll sneak into the back-end of the first round, between this, the five-star pedigree and the fact that he just looks like receivers are “supposed” to look. Plus he has the coolest name ever. Should just change it to Peoples-Elbow.
22. Minnesota Vikings select A.J. Terrell, CB, Clemson
The Vikings have no corners and if they want one they can use this season they should take one now. WR can wait until round 2. There are a handful of guys left who you can look at and say “this guy has a good chance to become an NFL regular” and Terrell is one of them. He’s feisty, his technique is decent, he seems to have pretty good speed, and his ball skills are decent as well. He’s like a boring corner but in a good way in that he’s usually covering his guy pretty well. The non-descript corner seems to be one that Mike Zimmer is into, as he continues to coast off reputation from years ago.
23. New England trades down because that’s just like what they do
New England trades with Kansas City for a pick swap and then like KC’s next 43 7th rounders
Kansas City selects KRISTIAN FULTON, CB, LSU
This guys is very similar to AJ Terrell to me, just kind of boringly covers up his man, missionary style. KRISTIAN MISSIONARY! It’s not going to catch on.
I think I like this guy a bit more than Terrell actually, but I am rushing this and so I’m not going to sit down and split these hairs.
24. New Orleans Saints select PATRICK QUEEN, ILB, LSU
I really like Patrick Queen. Over the past few years, it’s been a lot of “hey look here’s another linebacker that reads like Floyd Mayweather” but Queen is not that guy. He reads at a 12th grade level, and then moves forward/backwards, side-to-side, and even diagonally to attack. He’s often the first guy to the ball, even if the play is going away from him:
He’s also a really good timed athlete. What’s not to love?
Wellllll he’s about 220 lbs playing middle linebacker and that leads to a lot of unfinished plays. But while this is true, he’s getting dinged for missing tackles that other players wouldn’t be in position to miss. The Ryan Shazier dilemma. I personally was always on the side of “go wreck shop in the backfield and if you miss hopefully a fluffer linebacker will clean it up” over “hey just sit back a few yards and let running backs just kind of run into you and stuff”.
25. Minnesota Vikings select JALEN REAGOR, WR, TCU
Great, another TCU guy. It’s like being maced by Youtube.
My weirdest player comp this year is Jalen Reagor. I compare him to Peter Warrick. This move is dripping hot:
He’s a downfield homerun threat, jukey YAC monster, leaper that goes up over anyone and makes crazy highlight grabs out of the sky, guy who goes to the Combine and doesn’t run nearly as fast as people expected. He’s probably lucky that all of the Dillard’s stores are closed right now because who knows where the similarities end?
Reagor was expected to run a great time, but barely cracked sub-4.5. His agility numbers were horrible. How can a guy who broke ankles all over the field corner that slowly? I have no idea. The only thing in Texas more electric than Reagor are the chairs. The jumping metrics by the way do show up when he makes highlight reel catches.
From the metrics it does appear that he just starts slow for whatever reason, at least regarding straight line speed, as the 10- and 20-yard splits are awful but the final time is good. 22.8 mph by the way is extremely high, the only guys this year I’ve found that have a faster top speed are Ruggs and Javelin Guidry. And maybe that explains why most of his big plays are go routes. Maybe Reagor is Peter Warrick, and what worked in college just isn’t going to work all that well in the pros. But I just feel like his numbers don’t really reflect how fast this dude is and hell, the Vikings might want to run back the Percy Harvin experiment one more time.
26. Miami Dolphins select PRINCE TEGA WANOGHO, OT, AUBURN
We are in the presence of royalty!
Wanogho was born in Nigeria and came over to the US for his senior year of high school after showing enough in a camp to interest a private school in Alabama. Oh, it was a basketball camp, by the way. Basketball was his first sport and the school’s basketball coach was his Sandra Bullock. Wanogho was taken to a football practice to watch his adoptive family’s son, who was a QB for the football team, and he was either interested in trying it out or was asked when the coach saw this giant kid on the sideline not destroying people on the field and wondered “hey why isn’t this guy out here destroying people on the field, I’ve seen The Blind Side so I know this obviously is going to work” or something like that…I forget exactly and I don’t want to go and re-read it. So obviously they put him on the field (in this case at defensive end), give him a quick Cliff Notes and he’s all-state or whatever. But he still wanted to play basketball because he grew up dreaming of becoming Scott Skiles. Or maybe someone else, I’m not sure.
Unfortunately, he suffered a really bad leg injury that season that was serious enough to legitimately threaten his career prospects in any sport and that was the end of that. Football coaches had been recruiting him all year (he famously said “who’s Nick Saban?” when asked if Saban had contacted him because he knew nothing about college football) and he appreciated that Auburn came to see him in the hospital and kept their offer on the table. So he committed to Auburn and once he got there, they convinced him to bulk up to play offensive line and here we are. So he’s only been playing OL for a few years in college.
Now I read that this guy is raw and a developmental prospect and all that and while that may be true, I think he’s already pretty good. He moves really well, he seems to be strong enough, the technique I don’t think is bad and he mirrors well and I think he’ll go higher than projected. Offensive tackles are in demand – I mean, Gosder Cherilus went in the first round one year. Once you get to the 20s in most years, the blue-chipper types are gone and essentially it’s just an early start to round 2. And obviously, weird picks happen every year. If I would have mocked Tytus Howard to Houston last year people would have laughed and told me to stop making fun of Bill O’Brien.
And of course I like watching OL run at little corners with bad intentions:
27. Seattle Seahawks either trade down or make a baffling late first round selection
This has become an annual tradition.
I can’t come up with a baffling selection or a trade down scenario that I like so instead I’ll give them one of my favorite guys this year that I want to get into the first round.
Seattle Seahawks select NEVILLE GALLIMORE, DT, OKLAHOMA
I compare Gallimore to Javon Hargrave. He’s a spark plug type penetrating DL that has some actual rush moves outside bull rushing and shooting gaps.
I’ve always like the smallish, quick and powerful DT archetype, particularly as the NFL becomes less and less about pure mass. Of course it usually swings back at this point as if it were one of Joe Exotic’s husbands but that’s another matter. Everyone needs depth at OL and DL pretty much every year and I think Gallimore goes round 1.
28. Baltimore Ravens select KENNETH MURRAY, ILB, OKLAHOMA
I want to give them a WR here and I was considering Justin Jefferson but I don’t know if he’s weird enough to be a legitimate Ravens first round WR selection. If DPJ were available I might slot him here. They need at least one actual WR to complement Hollywood Brown and I think he should be a well-rounded type and not another track star who runs fast in a straight line. How long can you have Willie Snead playing this role? Ehhh, I guess for another year. The Ravens might want a break from drafting first round receivers and this team goes defense with what seems like 80% of their picks so I’m going to have then filling another glaring need at ILB.
Murray is under-the-radar polarizing. He looks like fuckin’ Robocop, he’s a really solid tackler and a great athlete, he’s the all business ILB type, etc. etc. What’s not to love? Well, he’s an ILB so you can guess what I’m going to say.
Look at him just waiting there on 2nd and 2 for the RB to come to him. And this one:
Where is he going? There is nothing in this play that suggests that the ball is going to go where he goes and he just runs himself right out of position to make the tackle before the play even really starts. The LSU-Oklahoma game is full of either tentative decision-making or quicker but outright wrong reads and based on that game alone he’s like a round 3 player at best. Yeah, he’s a significantly more solid tackler and inside presence than Patrick Queen. But if Patrick Queen misses the tackle in the first gif, at least he’s missing it 2 yards deep in the backfield and making it difficult for the back to get to the sticks. You don’t even have to block Murray on this play because he’s a non-factor as far as preventing a first down is concerned. Maybe it’s play design – we obviously don’t know what teams are drawing up on each play and maybe the safety is blitzing by design here and Murray is playing this perfectly but I doubt that, and his tape is full of it, and it’s why he’s not Patrick Willis. Xavier McKinney plays it better than that and he’s a safety. The Ravens might like that he’s in the CJ Mosley mold and maybe they think that this is correctable and he’ll develop into a guy who plays more like he does in some other games.
Against Baylor he looked really good early but by the end it seemed like he was making questionable or late decisions again. I don’t know if you can correct that. Perhaps you can, and if so, it’s really the only thing holding Murray back from being a guy I’d say could be a top tier NFL linebacker. He’s a beast of a tackler and while he maybe doesn’t show the greatest coverage instincts either, he moves quite well dropping into his zones and chasing down receivers. If he gets better at this or it can be schemed around to some degree, he could be really, really good. I just know that I would bet against it.
29. Tennessee Titans select JOSH UCHE, EDGE, MICHIGAN
This is a tough one. I’m sure the Titans would be furiously messaging other teams on the Zoom trying to trade out but which player is another team going to trade up for?
Tennessee’s biggest needs are Edge, OT and DT, and instead of potentially “reaching” for an OT since there are still a ton of them left, I’ll have them “reach” for an Edge since there are basically none of them left and who are you going to get at the end of Round 2? Terrell Lewis? Nah I’m good.
Now I don’t like Uche either – he goes long stretches doing nothing and his game against Iowa was a Tristan Wirfs highlight tape outside of a few plays. But he is another twitched up freak athlete who looks and moves like top NFL edge rushers do, and I think that’s enough to get him wildly overdrafted in the hopes that he becomes Danielle Hunter. He does rush really well at times up the middle on plays designed for him because he’s so damn explosive but you can’t just draw up every play for one guy. I still think he finds a way to sneak into the first round based on athletic ability alone. Guys like this are rare and they generally don’t last long.
He didn’t do anything at the Combine due to injury, and without the ability to run at a Pro Day it might hurt him to not have verified numbers available to prove that the athletic ability is real. Perhaps GMs remember Jachai Polite looking like a freak athlete on the field before running drills like Rich Eisen. Could happen but I’ll take my chances here.
30. Green Bay Packers select JUSTIN JEFFERSON, WR, LSU
Aaron Rodgers will probably threaten to play the entire season left-handed if the Packers don’t take a WR here. The hard part for me is predicting which one they take.
First option is Denzel Mims, who is a 6’4” track star in the DK Metcalf mold who really excels making difficult contested catches as well. Mims, however, is really raw coming out of Baylor’s system and he really just doesn’t even run routes. He kind of just runs to a spot. I don’t think this would fly in Green Bay, where they already have a roster full of Denzel Mims types. Mims would be their best Mims easily, but they don’t need more Mimses right now with all the choices available.
Second option is Laviska Shenault, who is basically Derrick Henry playing receiver. He’s like Shaq Thompson and Myles Jack – he essentially played running back half the time as a wildcat QB and his RAC ability is ridiculous. He’s another guy that can get open deep but his 40 time was concerning (4.58) and he’s also not the most polished receiver. I doubt he’s going to be running wildcat snaps in Green Bay.
Could be KJ Hamler? I really like Hamler, he’s fast as all hell but he’s basically Marquise Brown and I don’t know if Green Bay can risk potentially setting off their Real Housewife of a QB by giving him a 5’9” sprite in the first round. He also doesn’t have Combine times so there’s nothing concrete to verify the speed, which I think might be important to a GM picking a guy like Hamler in the first. I do however think he would pair well with Davante Adams and it’s not like you’re taking a Florida kid here and sending him to the arctic – this is a guy from Michigan who played at Penn State. Regardless I’m going to bet against it.
Brandon Aiyuk? Doubt it. Tee Higgins? I don’t think so but maybe.
My bet is Justin Jefferson. It seems that people thought he was just a generic WR who was the product of playing at LSU with Burrow, and then he went to the Combine and ran like a top-flite NFL WR and his draft stock (at least on the Twitters) skyrocketed. He’s a true WR that can play the position, not just a deep guy or a speed mismatch or whathaveyou. He’s almost like a twitchy Reggie Wayne (I don’t mean that Reggie Wayne was just shot multiple times by Marvin Harrison, I mean twitchy like athletic). Is he too similar to Davante Adams? I don’t think it’s a problem to have two well-rounded WR types and he’s fast enough that Green Bay won’t have to rely so heavily on their stable of Budget Mimses to stretch the field.
31. San Francisco 49ers trade out
Not an ideal situation for them here. I think Grant Delpit could be a trade target, so I’m going to make that happen.
San Francisco trades with Cleveland for some shit, I don’t know who cares they’ll figure it out
Cleveland Browns select GRANT DELPIT, S, LSU
This might still be too high for Delpit – a lot of mocks have him well into the middle of round 2 – and maybe I’m still putting too much stock into the name value. I’m not going to drop him just because the numbers were down last year, I mean that happens particularly to DBs.
The main knock against Delpit is that he misses a lot of tackles and I mean, yeah but a lot of guys miss some tackles but hold up wait a second what the fuck
Delpit sure isn’t Derwin James in that regard. I’ve read that this game was a bit of an anomaly even by Delpit standards but I mean holy frosted shit. Other than that Delpit is a first round type of safety - his blitzing ability is what most reminds me of James, his man coverage ability is actually really good for a safety, and he can play deep zones pretty well. He finds the ball, he flies up to make tackles, he also flies up to miss tackles but at least he’s still flying, and he has like a white dude’s name for some reason. Like, it would look good on a realtor sign. If he screamed “FOR SALE BY GRANT DELPIT!” every time he made a big play I would by his jersey immediately.
I really have no idea what to think of Delpit and he didn’t run in Indianapolis so any questions about his true timed speed may drop him well beyond this but he’s got a ton of first round traits at the position and in a meh class like this I think that might be enough to get him into the first Google Hangouts session.
32. New England selects JORDAN LOVE, QB, UTAH
This is why I think that teams with old QBs (and even teams with QBs like Stafford who are getting up there and whom you could see yourself moving on from if you wanted to), when a guy drops to you, you should strongly consider taking him. I bet Belichick is kicking himself over not taking Lamar Jackson when he had the chance and the opportunity just presented itself to them. The Steelers were very interested in Dak Prescott but instead took a developmental OL because “HOW IS A QB GOING TO HELP US WIN NOW!”. I know they took Mason Rudolph and he has sucked fat asshole but so do most 3rd rounders. Was Malik Jefferson going to help them win now? Probably not.
So now the Patriots are essentially forced to take whatever QB is available to the year that they need one, and this year the pickins are slim after the top two. Most years are like this. That’s why I always suggest picking falling Q Bs during particularly good years at the position.
Anyway Love is the typical “toolsy” QB that will probably be overdrafted by a QB-needy team, though at this range in the draft it makes some sense. To me, Love is the anti-Kaepernick, in that he throws with so much touch that it actually often works to his detriment. He’s got a nice arm but often times he just floats nice catchable balls into windows that demand a bullet before they close violently:
There are multiple examples of it and I don’t understand it but at least it shows that he CAN throw with touch if someone can develop this skillset. He also had his numbers fall way off last year; in fact they are a huge red flag as I cannot think of any decent NFL QB who put up anything like a 20 TD/17 INT year before going to the NFL. Even Josh Allen last year wasn’t anywhere close to that and this was mentioned as a flag for him. These are like, Trevor Siemien numbers.
So what happened? Obviously the team was worse, and his receivers were slow and underwhelming, though one of them was a contested catch gawd who definitely helped Love more than he hurt him and the others were definitely sufficient enough for a first round draft pick playing in the Mountain West. But really, he just made a ton of of Winstonian decisions:
Oddly enough the game that gave me the most hope for him was against LSU, where his team was thoroughly outclassed at every spot on the field and it was his “worst” game from a numbers perspective but to me he looked decent under very tough conditions and got absolutely zero help on this particular day. (Much like Drew Lock last year).
When I mention that Tua and Burrow can just throw it up to a single-covered WR who will come down with it for a TD, I generally mean plays like this where it doesn’t work the same way for guys like Love and Herbert:
That corner (might be Fulton) plays that perfectly, doesn’t allow the WR to get into position to make a contested catch and goes and gets the ball himself. You don’t see that happen when Burrow tosses one up to Jamarr Chase or Justin Jefferson.
The good bits aside though, Love just makes too many bad reads and also commits too quickly, and teams figured that out and started jumping them, which would explain a lot of the hospital balls like the GIF above. New England probably won’t actually take him and even though he’s actually generally accurate, he’s got so much to improve on in this regard that I don’t think he’s going to do much in the NFL. He also tends to run at the first hint of pressure instead of maneuvering within the pocket and once he gets off his block he’s just running wildly, there’s not many instances that I saw where he actually resets and makes a sound throw.
Gladney was my favorite corner in this draft, and then they all went to the Combine and ran 4.5s so who even knows anymore. But he’s tenacious, a smooth strider, all those buzzwords that the people on TV use when describing guys who are going to disappoint in the NFL relative to draft expectations at a minimum of about 50%. He did this to a guy once:
Sidenote – TCU has a lot of prospects this year which is complete bullshit because what THE FUCK are these uniforms? Why have they not been burned in a Waco-sized fire? These should be ISIS’s flag and here’s TCU proudly wearing them like they are declaring a jihad on my retinas.
In real life if CJ Henderson is here the Falcons would probably take him, but I am trying to not get caught up in groupthink so I’m not going to follow along with that. The Falcons take Jeff Gladney and never look back, which probably isn’t true because someone later in the draft will probably be better so of course they’ll look back what are you an idiot?
17. Dallas Cowboys select XAVIER McKINNEY, SAFETY, ALABAMA
I love this guy. The Cowboys have needed a safety for what feels like 30 years and finally one falls into Jerry Jones’s lap, only this time he’s not going to get in trouble for it. McKinney is a more of a “strong” safety type but not only is he physically imposing, he appears to be a very heady player as well.
He is the anti-Delpit when it comes to tackling:
He often seems to know exactly what play is coming. He makes plays like this a few times a game:
And THEN he does stuff like this which is just what the fuck come on:
There are top middle linebackers that can’t do that. Shit, Kenneth Murray would be waiting 5 yards off the ball to make those tackles that McKinney made in the backfield. He’s insane. The only thing keeping him on the board this long is his slowish 40 time – he ran just over 4.6. But, like I mentioned earlier, safety is the one defensive position where pure athleticism doesn’t seem to be damn near a prerequisite. Roy Williams, Ed Reed, Eric Weddle, Brian Dawkins, the aforementioned Earl the Squirrel, Landon Collins – these guys all put up rather pedestrian Combine numbers. McKinney’s 40 time was also really hurt by poor starting times, just like Jalen Reagor’s, which means that either he’s slow to accelerate or he just doesn’t start well out of a stance no safety will ever start from. I think his actual straight line speed is decent and I think he’ll be a Pro Bowl safety in the NFL. Like a real one, not 8th alternate Andy Dalton style because Londraspidous Willowhedge dropped out last minute with athlete’s gout.
(Five gifs? You can tell which positions I watched first)
18. Miami Dolphins select ANTOINE WINFIELD JR, FS, MINNASOTAH
Dolphins could really use anybody good so I’ll just go to someone I would want to draft. Winfield is one of my favorite players in this draft, a smart safety with good speed and range who turns bad decisions into turnovers. This play is pure insanity put into a needle and shot directly into my ravaged veins:
The commentary on that play is hilarious as they watch either the win get snatched out of their hands or vice versa (not sure which team’s announcers are even on the call). He can close too – doesn’t quite come up with this one but you can see the burst and aggressiveness (the receiver is KJ Hamler btw):
He’s got the bloodlines too, as he is the son of former NFL-er Art Schlichter.
19. Oakland Raiders select CESAR RUIZ, C, MICHIGAN
I’m probably generally sticking to the accepted script too much through the first 20 or so picks so I need to start getting wild, because that’s what NFL teams do, they get wild. Particularly once we get into the 20s, when they start drafting the LJ Colliers of the world.
Ruiz doesn’t fall into that group, though. He’s awesome. Watching Ruiz is like watching a Pouncey twin as he just ping-pongs through the defensive levels popping dudes in the face at each stop, like a trucker just knocking out glory holes as he brings knockoff wireless speakers from Amazon across America. He’s arguably stouter than Pouncey A and Pouncey B as well. I believe the Raiders need some OL help, so here it is. I doubt they need any glory hole help.
20. Jacksonville Jaguars select CJ HENDERSON, CB, FLORIDA
Boring Florida team selects boring Florida cornerback and bores their way to 7-9 while Doug Marrone chases away any player who dares to excel on the field. CJ Henderson has the build and athletic traits of top corners, though he didn’t run any agility drills (that’s the one area where I think RAS could be improved – guys that don’t do certain drills should have certain flags shown). But based on the size, 40 and bench press, he’s a top 0.2% athlete at the position. And this is NFL cornerback, perhaps the most Twitched-up place on Earth this side of a Fortnite lobby.
But what does he do? I didn’t see this guy do much of anything. It’s hard to judge corners without All-22, but he just looked like a guy to me even in his highlight tapes. You know, a JAG. Hey! This makes perfect sense! This is a roster full of just a guys, destined to just a guy their way to 6 wins in a part of the country no one pays attention to. Jacksonville just re-opened their beaches in the middle of a historic pandemic and there’s still not a soul alive that gives a shit about it. It’s ok Jacksonville it gets better.
21. Philadelphia Eagles select a GOT DAMN RECEIVER
Which one? Hmmm…not sure Shenault makes sense. I don’t think Mims is nuanced enough to save a team by himself. Reagor? Maybe but I think they want a more prototypical #1. Justin Jefferson? This I could see, he’s like a version of Jordan Matthews who can actually run.
I got it.
Philadelphia Eagles select DONOVAN PEOPLES-JONES, WR, MICHIGAN
DPJ was dinged for a lack of production, but people finally realized recently that hey, maybe his QB being complete pigeonshit might have contributed to this. Hey DPJ, produce, would ya????
He would later make a really nice TD catch on that drive so all’s well that end’s well!
Ok, so Shea Patterson sucks. We all know this now. Still, outside of maybe DeAndre Hopkins and a few other examples in the NFL, top tier WRs still find a way to produce, even with shitty QBs, right? Well….not really. It wasn’t just that the throws weren’t great, even though that helped to highlight DPJ’s ability to catch balls that are off-target. Much like Calvin Johnson at Georgia Tech, the opportunities just weren’t there. GT has always run that triple option from 1940 so it was no surprise there and no one held that against Megatron because why would you, but in Michigan’s case, it was that their QB was so limited that they couldn’t run a normal offense. Brilliant tactician Jim “VIOLENTLY ATTACK LIFE WITH YOUR TALONS AT 700%!!!” Harbaugh schemed up a bunch of runs and WR screens to work around this and I gotta say, it was as exciting as shrink-wrapping pallets. As Harbaugh always tells his players, “VICTORY IS BREASTMILK AND COMPETITION IS THE TITTIES!”. Or something like that.
So if you want to watch a guy stalk-block corners for 60 plays a game, turn on some Michigan film and hone in on number nine. When he’s not doing that though he’s a big fast WR that can jump out the gym, go up and get the ball, get separation through his route-running, and control his body really well in the air when the ball gets somewhat near him. I have a feeling that he’ll sneak into the back-end of the first round, between this, the five-star pedigree and the fact that he just looks like receivers are “supposed” to look. Plus he has the coolest name ever. Should just change it to Peoples-Elbow.
22. Minnesota Vikings select A.J. Terrell, CB, Clemson
The Vikings have no corners and if they want one they can use this season they should take one now. WR can wait until round 2. There are a handful of guys left who you can look at and say “this guy has a good chance to become an NFL regular” and Terrell is one of them. He’s feisty, his technique is decent, he seems to have pretty good speed, and his ball skills are decent as well. He’s like a boring corner but in a good way in that he’s usually covering his guy pretty well. The non-descript corner seems to be one that Mike Zimmer is into, as he continues to coast off reputation from years ago.
23. New England trades down because that’s just like what they do
New England trades with Kansas City for a pick swap and then like KC’s next 43 7th rounders
Kansas City selects KRISTIAN FULTON, CB, LSU
This guys is very similar to AJ Terrell to me, just kind of boringly covers up his man, missionary style. KRISTIAN MISSIONARY! It’s not going to catch on.
I think I like this guy a bit more than Terrell actually, but I am rushing this and so I’m not going to sit down and split these hairs.
24. New Orleans Saints select PATRICK QUEEN, ILB, LSU
I really like Patrick Queen. Over the past few years, it’s been a lot of “hey look here’s another linebacker that reads like Floyd Mayweather” but Queen is not that guy. He reads at a 12th grade level, and then moves forward/backwards, side-to-side, and even diagonally to attack. He’s often the first guy to the ball, even if the play is going away from him:
He’s also a really good timed athlete. What’s not to love?
Wellllll he’s about 220 lbs playing middle linebacker and that leads to a lot of unfinished plays. But while this is true, he’s getting dinged for missing tackles that other players wouldn’t be in position to miss. The Ryan Shazier dilemma. I personally was always on the side of “go wreck shop in the backfield and if you miss hopefully a fluffer linebacker will clean it up” over “hey just sit back a few yards and let running backs just kind of run into you and stuff”.
25. Minnesota Vikings select JALEN REAGOR, WR, TCU
Great, another TCU guy. It’s like being maced by Youtube.
My weirdest player comp this year is Jalen Reagor. I compare him to Peter Warrick. This move is dripping hot:
He’s a downfield homerun threat, jukey YAC monster, leaper that goes up over anyone and makes crazy highlight grabs out of the sky, guy who goes to the Combine and doesn’t run nearly as fast as people expected. He’s probably lucky that all of the Dillard’s stores are closed right now because who knows where the similarities end?
Reagor was expected to run a great time, but barely cracked sub-4.5. His agility numbers were horrible. How can a guy who broke ankles all over the field corner that slowly? I have no idea. The only thing in Texas more electric than Reagor are the chairs. The jumping metrics by the way do show up when he makes highlight reel catches.
From the metrics it does appear that he just starts slow for whatever reason, at least regarding straight line speed, as the 10- and 20-yard splits are awful but the final time is good. 22.8 mph by the way is extremely high, the only guys this year I’ve found that have a faster top speed are Ruggs and Javelin Guidry. And maybe that explains why most of his big plays are go routes. Maybe Reagor is Peter Warrick, and what worked in college just isn’t going to work all that well in the pros. But I just feel like his numbers don’t really reflect how fast this dude is and hell, the Vikings might want to run back the Percy Harvin experiment one more time.
26. Miami Dolphins select PRINCE TEGA WANOGHO, OT, AUBURN
We are in the presence of royalty!
Wanogho was born in Nigeria and came over to the US for his senior year of high school after showing enough in a camp to interest a private school in Alabama. Oh, it was a basketball camp, by the way. Basketball was his first sport and the school’s basketball coach was his Sandra Bullock. Wanogho was taken to a football practice to watch his adoptive family’s son, who was a QB for the football team, and he was either interested in trying it out or was asked when the coach saw this giant kid on the sideline not destroying people on the field and wondered “hey why isn’t this guy out here destroying people on the field, I’ve seen The Blind Side so I know this obviously is going to work” or something like that…I forget exactly and I don’t want to go and re-read it. So obviously they put him on the field (in this case at defensive end), give him a quick Cliff Notes and he’s all-state or whatever. But he still wanted to play basketball because he grew up dreaming of becoming Scott Skiles. Or maybe someone else, I’m not sure.
Unfortunately, he suffered a really bad leg injury that season that was serious enough to legitimately threaten his career prospects in any sport and that was the end of that. Football coaches had been recruiting him all year (he famously said “who’s Nick Saban?” when asked if Saban had contacted him because he knew nothing about college football) and he appreciated that Auburn came to see him in the hospital and kept their offer on the table. So he committed to Auburn and once he got there, they convinced him to bulk up to play offensive line and here we are. So he’s only been playing OL for a few years in college.
Now I read that this guy is raw and a developmental prospect and all that and while that may be true, I think he’s already pretty good. He moves really well, he seems to be strong enough, the technique I don’t think is bad and he mirrors well and I think he’ll go higher than projected. Offensive tackles are in demand – I mean, Gosder Cherilus went in the first round one year. Once you get to the 20s in most years, the blue-chipper types are gone and essentially it’s just an early start to round 2. And obviously, weird picks happen every year. If I would have mocked Tytus Howard to Houston last year people would have laughed and told me to stop making fun of Bill O’Brien.
And of course I like watching OL run at little corners with bad intentions:
27. Seattle Seahawks either trade down or make a baffling late first round selection
This has become an annual tradition.
I can’t come up with a baffling selection or a trade down scenario that I like so instead I’ll give them one of my favorite guys this year that I want to get into the first round.
Seattle Seahawks select NEVILLE GALLIMORE, DT, OKLAHOMA
I compare Gallimore to Javon Hargrave. He’s a spark plug type penetrating DL that has some actual rush moves outside bull rushing and shooting gaps.
I’ve always like the smallish, quick and powerful DT archetype, particularly as the NFL becomes less and less about pure mass. Of course it usually swings back at this point as if it were one of Joe Exotic’s husbands but that’s another matter. Everyone needs depth at OL and DL pretty much every year and I think Gallimore goes round 1.
28. Baltimore Ravens select KENNETH MURRAY, ILB, OKLAHOMA
I want to give them a WR here and I was considering Justin Jefferson but I don’t know if he’s weird enough to be a legitimate Ravens first round WR selection. If DPJ were available I might slot him here. They need at least one actual WR to complement Hollywood Brown and I think he should be a well-rounded type and not another track star who runs fast in a straight line. How long can you have Willie Snead playing this role? Ehhh, I guess for another year. The Ravens might want a break from drafting first round receivers and this team goes defense with what seems like 80% of their picks so I’m going to have then filling another glaring need at ILB.
Murray is under-the-radar polarizing. He looks like fuckin’ Robocop, he’s a really solid tackler and a great athlete, he’s the all business ILB type, etc. etc. What’s not to love? Well, he’s an ILB so you can guess what I’m going to say.
Look at him just waiting there on 2nd and 2 for the RB to come to him. And this one:
Where is he going? There is nothing in this play that suggests that the ball is going to go where he goes and he just runs himself right out of position to make the tackle before the play even really starts. The LSU-Oklahoma game is full of either tentative decision-making or quicker but outright wrong reads and based on that game alone he’s like a round 3 player at best. Yeah, he’s a significantly more solid tackler and inside presence than Patrick Queen. But if Patrick Queen misses the tackle in the first gif, at least he’s missing it 2 yards deep in the backfield and making it difficult for the back to get to the sticks. You don’t even have to block Murray on this play because he’s a non-factor as far as preventing a first down is concerned. Maybe it’s play design – we obviously don’t know what teams are drawing up on each play and maybe the safety is blitzing by design here and Murray is playing this perfectly but I doubt that, and his tape is full of it, and it’s why he’s not Patrick Willis. Xavier McKinney plays it better than that and he’s a safety. The Ravens might like that he’s in the CJ Mosley mold and maybe they think that this is correctable and he’ll develop into a guy who plays more like he does in some other games.
Against Baylor he looked really good early but by the end it seemed like he was making questionable or late decisions again. I don’t know if you can correct that. Perhaps you can, and if so, it’s really the only thing holding Murray back from being a guy I’d say could be a top tier NFL linebacker. He’s a beast of a tackler and while he maybe doesn’t show the greatest coverage instincts either, he moves quite well dropping into his zones and chasing down receivers. If he gets better at this or it can be schemed around to some degree, he could be really, really good. I just know that I would bet against it.
29. Tennessee Titans select JOSH UCHE, EDGE, MICHIGAN
This is a tough one. I’m sure the Titans would be furiously messaging other teams on the Zoom trying to trade out but which player is another team going to trade up for?
Tennessee’s biggest needs are Edge, OT and DT, and instead of potentially “reaching” for an OT since there are still a ton of them left, I’ll have them “reach” for an Edge since there are basically none of them left and who are you going to get at the end of Round 2? Terrell Lewis? Nah I’m good.
Now I don’t like Uche either – he goes long stretches doing nothing and his game against Iowa was a Tristan Wirfs highlight tape outside of a few plays. But he is another twitched up freak athlete who looks and moves like top NFL edge rushers do, and I think that’s enough to get him wildly overdrafted in the hopes that he becomes Danielle Hunter. He does rush really well at times up the middle on plays designed for him because he’s so damn explosive but you can’t just draw up every play for one guy. I still think he finds a way to sneak into the first round based on athletic ability alone. Guys like this are rare and they generally don’t last long.
He didn’t do anything at the Combine due to injury, and without the ability to run at a Pro Day it might hurt him to not have verified numbers available to prove that the athletic ability is real. Perhaps GMs remember Jachai Polite looking like a freak athlete on the field before running drills like Rich Eisen. Could happen but I’ll take my chances here.
30. Green Bay Packers select JUSTIN JEFFERSON, WR, LSU
Aaron Rodgers will probably threaten to play the entire season left-handed if the Packers don’t take a WR here. The hard part for me is predicting which one they take.
First option is Denzel Mims, who is a 6’4” track star in the DK Metcalf mold who really excels making difficult contested catches as well. Mims, however, is really raw coming out of Baylor’s system and he really just doesn’t even run routes. He kind of just runs to a spot. I don’t think this would fly in Green Bay, where they already have a roster full of Denzel Mims types. Mims would be their best Mims easily, but they don’t need more Mimses right now with all the choices available.
Second option is Laviska Shenault, who is basically Derrick Henry playing receiver. He’s like Shaq Thompson and Myles Jack – he essentially played running back half the time as a wildcat QB and his RAC ability is ridiculous. He’s another guy that can get open deep but his 40 time was concerning (4.58) and he’s also not the most polished receiver. I doubt he’s going to be running wildcat snaps in Green Bay.
Could be KJ Hamler? I really like Hamler, he’s fast as all hell but he’s basically Marquise Brown and I don’t know if Green Bay can risk potentially setting off their Real Housewife of a QB by giving him a 5’9” sprite in the first round. He also doesn’t have Combine times so there’s nothing concrete to verify the speed, which I think might be important to a GM picking a guy like Hamler in the first. I do however think he would pair well with Davante Adams and it’s not like you’re taking a Florida kid here and sending him to the arctic – this is a guy from Michigan who played at Penn State. Regardless I’m going to bet against it.
Brandon Aiyuk? Doubt it. Tee Higgins? I don’t think so but maybe.
My bet is Justin Jefferson. It seems that people thought he was just a generic WR who was the product of playing at LSU with Burrow, and then he went to the Combine and ran like a top-flite NFL WR and his draft stock (at least on the Twitters) skyrocketed. He’s a true WR that can play the position, not just a deep guy or a speed mismatch or whathaveyou. He’s almost like a twitchy Reggie Wayne (I don’t mean that Reggie Wayne was just shot multiple times by Marvin Harrison, I mean twitchy like athletic). Is he too similar to Davante Adams? I don’t think it’s a problem to have two well-rounded WR types and he’s fast enough that Green Bay won’t have to rely so heavily on their stable of Budget Mimses to stretch the field.
31. San Francisco 49ers trade out
Not an ideal situation for them here. I think Grant Delpit could be a trade target, so I’m going to make that happen.
San Francisco trades with Cleveland for some shit, I don’t know who cares they’ll figure it out
Cleveland Browns select GRANT DELPIT, S, LSU
This might still be too high for Delpit – a lot of mocks have him well into the middle of round 2 – and maybe I’m still putting too much stock into the name value. I’m not going to drop him just because the numbers were down last year, I mean that happens particularly to DBs.
The main knock against Delpit is that he misses a lot of tackles and I mean, yeah but a lot of guys miss some tackles but hold up wait a second what the fuck
Delpit sure isn’t Derwin James in that regard. I’ve read that this game was a bit of an anomaly even by Delpit standards but I mean holy frosted shit. Other than that Delpit is a first round type of safety - his blitzing ability is what most reminds me of James, his man coverage ability is actually really good for a safety, and he can play deep zones pretty well. He finds the ball, he flies up to make tackles, he also flies up to miss tackles but at least he’s still flying, and he has like a white dude’s name for some reason. Like, it would look good on a realtor sign. If he screamed “FOR SALE BY GRANT DELPIT!” every time he made a big play I would by his jersey immediately.
I really have no idea what to think of Delpit and he didn’t run in Indianapolis so any questions about his true timed speed may drop him well beyond this but he’s got a ton of first round traits at the position and in a meh class like this I think that might be enough to get him into the first Google Hangouts session.
32. New England selects JORDAN LOVE, QB, UTAH
This is why I think that teams with old QBs (and even teams with QBs like Stafford who are getting up there and whom you could see yourself moving on from if you wanted to), when a guy drops to you, you should strongly consider taking him. I bet Belichick is kicking himself over not taking Lamar Jackson when he had the chance and the opportunity just presented itself to them. The Steelers were very interested in Dak Prescott but instead took a developmental OL because “HOW IS A QB GOING TO HELP US WIN NOW!”. I know they took Mason Rudolph and he has sucked fat asshole but so do most 3rd rounders. Was Malik Jefferson going to help them win now? Probably not.
So now the Patriots are essentially forced to take whatever QB is available to the year that they need one, and this year the pickins are slim after the top two. Most years are like this. That’s why I always suggest picking falling Q Bs during particularly good years at the position.
Anyway Love is the typical “toolsy” QB that will probably be overdrafted by a QB-needy team, though at this range in the draft it makes some sense. To me, Love is the anti-Kaepernick, in that he throws with so much touch that it actually often works to his detriment. He’s got a nice arm but often times he just floats nice catchable balls into windows that demand a bullet before they close violently:
There are multiple examples of it and I don’t understand it but at least it shows that he CAN throw with touch if someone can develop this skillset. He also had his numbers fall way off last year; in fact they are a huge red flag as I cannot think of any decent NFL QB who put up anything like a 20 TD/17 INT year before going to the NFL. Even Josh Allen last year wasn’t anywhere close to that and this was mentioned as a flag for him. These are like, Trevor Siemien numbers.
So what happened? Obviously the team was worse, and his receivers were slow and underwhelming, though one of them was a contested catch gawd who definitely helped Love more than he hurt him and the others were definitely sufficient enough for a first round draft pick playing in the Mountain West. But really, he just made a ton of of Winstonian decisions:
Oddly enough the game that gave me the most hope for him was against LSU, where his team was thoroughly outclassed at every spot on the field and it was his “worst” game from a numbers perspective but to me he looked decent under very tough conditions and got absolutely zero help on this particular day. (Much like Drew Lock last year).
When I mention that Tua and Burrow can just throw it up to a single-covered WR who will come down with it for a TD, I generally mean plays like this where it doesn’t work the same way for guys like Love and Herbert:
That corner (might be Fulton) plays that perfectly, doesn’t allow the WR to get into position to make a contested catch and goes and gets the ball himself. You don’t see that happen when Burrow tosses one up to Jamarr Chase or Justin Jefferson.
The good bits aside though, Love just makes too many bad reads and also commits too quickly, and teams figured that out and started jumping them, which would explain a lot of the hospital balls like the GIF above. New England probably won’t actually take him and even though he’s actually generally accurate, he’s got so much to improve on in this regard that I don’t think he’s going to do much in the NFL. He also tends to run at the first hint of pressure instead of maneuvering within the pocket and once he gets off his block he’s just running wildly, there’s not many instances that I saw where he actually resets and makes a sound throw.
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Re: BUSINESS HORSE 2020 NFL MOCK DRAFT EXTRAVAGANZA
OTHER PLAYERS WATCHED:
These guys were given at least a minute each:
QBs
Jalen Hurts – No. He is so scattershot and does not run nearly well enough that I would consider him before round 6 or something. His vision when running is superb but that’s about it.
Jacob Eason – Man I want to like Jacob Eason. If it were just throwing the ball he might be my favorite QB in the entire class, and that’s including Burrow. But he simply does not read defenses. He takes the snap, focuses on where he thinks the ball is supposed to go, and that’s who he throws it to. EVERY. TIME. I had some gifs of this but I can’t seem to find them and I doubt anyone cares enough that it would be worth going back and re-making them but it’s ridiculous how limited he is at this. I say it often but this is the stuff Lamar Jackson got unfairly hammered for and that you might not hear more than once about Eason. He originally started at Georgia but lost his job to Jake Fromm and I have to think that this is the main reason for that. This alone is enough to tank his draft stock IMO.
Jake Fromm – Another guy who I actually kind of like but just can’t get over his lack of juice throwing the ball. I just had a front row seat to a half-season of Duck Hodges and I don’t think many other teams want to watch it after hearing the reviews. He is at least more aggressive than Duck but this is under most circumstances not an NFL arm.
James Morgan – I kinda like this guy. It wasn’t easy at all there and he did miss throws he shouldn’t have missed but he did also throw some dimes down the sidelines. As a 5th rounder or so you could do a lot worse.
Anthony Gordon – No. He is not Gardner Minshew. Nooooo.
Cole McDonald – I expected to hate this guy but I love him. He throws super weird but outside of some meltdowns (it really snowballs with this guy) he’s actually really accurate most of the time. He’s also a great athlete. He might not even get drafted but I would take him over a lot of the guys higher on these “lists”.
RBs
D’Andre Swift – Will probably go first round, the prototype modern NFL RB. He is a shifty runner and a really good pass catcher 3-down type RB. I like him but I don’t love him.
JK Dobbins – I think he’s Emmitt Smith. Does everything well. But Emmitt Smith is Emmitt Smith for a reason and I don’t think that’s a great key to NFL success for most players. Zeke Elliott IMO was many times more impressive at OSU.
Johnathan Taylor – Has the track speed but to me he doesn’t play that fast. Expected to love him, came away quite meh.
Clyde Edwards-Helaire – He’s explosive but I think D’Andre Swift is a more consistent version of Helaire as a runner in addition to having the great receiving ability.
Zack Moss – Perhaps my favorite RB this year. Great contact balance:
Also has some burst. However while he often does well pass blocking, he has moments where it’s like he’s just daydreaming or something:
But that’s not enough to exclude Moss in round 4-ish as my top value pick for RBs.
WRs
Denzel Mims – Like I mentioned earlier, this guy is a jet of a wide receiver who in addition to legit track-champ speed has real catch-point abilities.
But he has a long way to go from a technique/route running standpoint. Being talked about as a first rounder now but I think he slips to the 2nd.
KJ Hamler – Like this guy a lot but too many WRs and he’s way too five foot nine to get put into the first.
Laviska Shenault – Named after an 80’s European automobile, he’s Derek Henry or Corey Dillon playing WR. He actually kind of reminds me of Justin Blackmon (no idea why he comes up every year) at times but isn’t the actual receiver that Blackmon was and he’s got speed questions. I could see him going in the first though.
Tee Higgins – I don’t like receivers that can’t separate well. Higgins is one of them though he does show some ability to do it, certainly more than N’Keal Harry ever showed. But I wouldn’t take him early in this class.
Chase Claypool – Oh great, another Notre Dame WR that everyone ignored until he blew up the Combine. You should have learned your lesson with Miles Boykin.
TEs
Adam Trautman – He’s way too “playing at Dayton” to tell how good he is, though I do think he’ll be good in the NFL. Probably a late 2nd rounder. I just couldn’t really tell watching him.
Hunter Bryant – A really good slot WR but that’s all he is, a slot WR. He’s like 6’2” 225ish and he cannot play in-line TE effectively IMO. Even at Washington he was getting knocked all over the place when they had him line up there. Also looks much faster on tape than he ran at the Combine but this guy is a really, really good pass catcher. No idea where to expect him to go this week.
Brycen Hopkins – Legit NFL receiving TE, just not at an obvious first-round caliber. He’ll probably be a good NFL-er.
Thaddeus Moss – A bit more of a traditional TE style than Hopkins. I like him but I like Hopkins and probably even Trautman more but if Moss (and yes he is related to that Moss) becomes the best of this group I wouldn’t be surprised at all. He’s a good receiving TE, just not as explosive as Hopkins and Trautman.
OTs
Josh Jones – Meh. He’s decent but I don’t get the first round hype.
Austin Jackson – Strong bench but he doesn’t play to it, which makes sense because real power comes from the legs when you’re trying to move people. I’m not impressed at all with his tape.
Lucas Niang – I like Niang quite a bit but couldn’t fit him into the mock. Part of the TCU optical assault unfortunately. He’s a bit of a plodder at times and has raw technique (this drop for example is kinda slow and clunky):
…but he’s a strong people-mover of a tackle and he too is Ogden-sized at 6’7” 350ish or whatever he goes, he just doesn’t move quite as well.
Isaiah Wilson – I watched three plays and came away impressed and that was enough for me because honestly are we done yet
Ezra Cleveland – lit the Combine up and has elite LT measurables but he’s just a guy on his tapes. Not impressed. I don’t think he’ll be bad or anything I just wouldn’t take him in the first.
Matthew Peart – Liked him more than I thought I would. Moves well and has functional strength. He’s the guy moving the RB in the hole:
Saahdiq Charles – I think he’ll be half decent as well in the league but he just doesn’t move or block like the other guys.
Interior OL
Lloyd Cushenberry – Just not first round material IMO. Not bad but after deciding he wasn’t going top 32 I moved on.
Interior DL
Ross Blacklock – The closest to the first round DTs in my opinion. This guy is a player and I do like him, just didn’t have a spot for him.
Justin Madubuike – Specimen of an athlete, 9.5+ RAS score, does jack shit on tape and is often single-blocked with no problem at all for the OL. Great, he’s Rashede Hagemann. Do not want.
Marlon Davidson – I think he could be good but Auburn did him no favors and played him like a legit edge rusher. This guy is like 310 lbs. He’s hard to project but I do like him.
EDGE
Yetur Gross-Matos – I wanted to put him in the first but couldn’t find the right spot. Not super twitchy but has enough burst but dear Lord this dude is great with his hands, which by itself may be enough for Robert Kraft to insist that the Patriots draft him. He sheds blockers by routine and it’s no surprise he racked up so many TFLs at Penn State. Fits best in a 3-4 IMO and I see a bit of Cameron Jordan here.
AJ Epenesa – When Epenesa was a freshman, I watched him play against Penn State and just dominate them and thought “this dude is going to be a top 5 pick”. He was a rare 5-star recruit who went to Iowa and it just screamed top pick. But he didn’t dominate like that too often and he might just be a tweener in the wrong era. A big dude stuck as an edge rusher in a league where speed and bending the edge is the ticket to success there. He might still go first round but he just doesn’t really have the juice that you typically see at the position.
Zack Baun – I like Zack Baun, just don’t love him. His pass rush moves are good, he’s really good at turning into the pocket and getting to the QB, he just doesn’t win enough that I’d take him in the top 30 or so. But if he turned into a good NFL edge guy I wouldn’t be shocked.
Terrell Lewis – Hard pass. Shows nothing IMO. I think he’s a late round guy.
Julian Okwara – Not consistent enough but he’s got the measurables to develop into something. Long limbed pass rusher who also shows some ability to work back to the QB from around the edge. He’s projected 3rd round but I’d be happy with him at many spots in the 2nd.
K’Lavon Chiasson – NO idea why this guy is the consensus #2 edge rusher and considered a lock first rounder. He does almost nothing. Everyone blocks him without much difficulty. Supposedly he’s one of Orgeron’s guys and a true leader type and they all love him and Coach O hypes him up to NFL coaches but I don’t want to draft this guy anywhere near the first round.
LB
Willie Gay Jr – I considered slipping him into the back of the first as a surprise crazy pick but there were too many ILBs still available. This guy is a ridiculous athlete and crazyperson in the Ray Lewis mold (and a lot of teams love that), but he’s also raw as all hell and also, well, a crazyperson who was suspended for fighting his teammates last year and has only started 6 games. He’s going to go earlier than people think and they are gonna be like “who?” and I’m gonna be like, Willie Gay Jr. stupids he’s a badass freak who will break faces on the field when he’s not running himself out of every single play. No, he is not the son of former Steeler William Gay.
CB
Jaylon Johnson – Didn’t seem all that special, at least not first round special.
Noah Igbinoghene – This dude has played corner for all of two seasons, and he’s getting first round hype, but outside of Richard Sherman those guys don’t pan out all that often. He’s aggressive as shit and has some real athletic ability as a man cover corner but he’s sooooo damn raw. He moves in ways that remind me of Artie Burns, and we all know how that worked out. (Top of the screen)
Trevon Diggs – Nope. (Bottom of the screen)
He might be fine as a 2nd starter/depth guy as an off-ball corner, but I don’t see NFL first or second round corner here. Guys run by him too easily and he just looked lost there trying to locate the ball. (Jamarr Chase is gonna be insane btw)
Safety
Disclaimer – Safety is hard as hell to analyze without all-22 views. They are out of the screen for most of the play so for me it’s often just a guessing game.
Terrell Burgess – Made some nice run stops:
He just didn’t do anything that screamed “take me in the first!”.
Neither did:
Ashtyn Davis (though he did have a nice INT of Herbert) – btw here’s a gif of Eason just looking right at a guy and throwing him right into a defender. Not sure if Davis was supposed to cover him OR if he just realized “hey this is where Eason is going with the ball because he’s Eason” and jumped it.
Jeremy Chinn – Super all-time elite athlete at the position who wasn’t even all that impressive in highlight tapes. Has a lot of INTs so I’m sure he’s doing something right but they aren’t playing top competition at Southern Illinois. Generally if a safety isn’t impressive even in highlight tapes then I won’t put them in the first round.
Was impressive but only for running over people at a D-3 school
Kyle Dugger – Yeah his highlights are ridiculous but it’s not like Nasir Adderley where they are all plays on the ball. It’s a guy with NFL measurables running over kids at Lenoir Rhyne University. Yeah he might be a decent NFL player but he’s not going to run roughshod over the Chicago Bears.
Kickers/Punters
Hahaha stfu
Alright, finally another one in the books.
These guys were given at least a minute each:
QBs
Jalen Hurts – No. He is so scattershot and does not run nearly well enough that I would consider him before round 6 or something. His vision when running is superb but that’s about it.
Jacob Eason – Man I want to like Jacob Eason. If it were just throwing the ball he might be my favorite QB in the entire class, and that’s including Burrow. But he simply does not read defenses. He takes the snap, focuses on where he thinks the ball is supposed to go, and that’s who he throws it to. EVERY. TIME. I had some gifs of this but I can’t seem to find them and I doubt anyone cares enough that it would be worth going back and re-making them but it’s ridiculous how limited he is at this. I say it often but this is the stuff Lamar Jackson got unfairly hammered for and that you might not hear more than once about Eason. He originally started at Georgia but lost his job to Jake Fromm and I have to think that this is the main reason for that. This alone is enough to tank his draft stock IMO.
Jake Fromm – Another guy who I actually kind of like but just can’t get over his lack of juice throwing the ball. I just had a front row seat to a half-season of Duck Hodges and I don’t think many other teams want to watch it after hearing the reviews. He is at least more aggressive than Duck but this is under most circumstances not an NFL arm.
James Morgan – I kinda like this guy. It wasn’t easy at all there and he did miss throws he shouldn’t have missed but he did also throw some dimes down the sidelines. As a 5th rounder or so you could do a lot worse.
Anthony Gordon – No. He is not Gardner Minshew. Nooooo.
Cole McDonald – I expected to hate this guy but I love him. He throws super weird but outside of some meltdowns (it really snowballs with this guy) he’s actually really accurate most of the time. He’s also a great athlete. He might not even get drafted but I would take him over a lot of the guys higher on these “lists”.
RBs
D’Andre Swift – Will probably go first round, the prototype modern NFL RB. He is a shifty runner and a really good pass catcher 3-down type RB. I like him but I don’t love him.
JK Dobbins – I think he’s Emmitt Smith. Does everything well. But Emmitt Smith is Emmitt Smith for a reason and I don’t think that’s a great key to NFL success for most players. Zeke Elliott IMO was many times more impressive at OSU.
Johnathan Taylor – Has the track speed but to me he doesn’t play that fast. Expected to love him, came away quite meh.
Clyde Edwards-Helaire – He’s explosive but I think D’Andre Swift is a more consistent version of Helaire as a runner in addition to having the great receiving ability.
Zack Moss – Perhaps my favorite RB this year. Great contact balance:
Also has some burst. However while he often does well pass blocking, he has moments where it’s like he’s just daydreaming or something:
But that’s not enough to exclude Moss in round 4-ish as my top value pick for RBs.
WRs
Denzel Mims – Like I mentioned earlier, this guy is a jet of a wide receiver who in addition to legit track-champ speed has real catch-point abilities.
But he has a long way to go from a technique/route running standpoint. Being talked about as a first rounder now but I think he slips to the 2nd.
KJ Hamler – Like this guy a lot but too many WRs and he’s way too five foot nine to get put into the first.
Laviska Shenault – Named after an 80’s European automobile, he’s Derek Henry or Corey Dillon playing WR. He actually kind of reminds me of Justin Blackmon (no idea why he comes up every year) at times but isn’t the actual receiver that Blackmon was and he’s got speed questions. I could see him going in the first though.
Tee Higgins – I don’t like receivers that can’t separate well. Higgins is one of them though he does show some ability to do it, certainly more than N’Keal Harry ever showed. But I wouldn’t take him early in this class.
Chase Claypool – Oh great, another Notre Dame WR that everyone ignored until he blew up the Combine. You should have learned your lesson with Miles Boykin.
TEs
Adam Trautman – He’s way too “playing at Dayton” to tell how good he is, though I do think he’ll be good in the NFL. Probably a late 2nd rounder. I just couldn’t really tell watching him.
Hunter Bryant – A really good slot WR but that’s all he is, a slot WR. He’s like 6’2” 225ish and he cannot play in-line TE effectively IMO. Even at Washington he was getting knocked all over the place when they had him line up there. Also looks much faster on tape than he ran at the Combine but this guy is a really, really good pass catcher. No idea where to expect him to go this week.
Brycen Hopkins – Legit NFL receiving TE, just not at an obvious first-round caliber. He’ll probably be a good NFL-er.
Thaddeus Moss – A bit more of a traditional TE style than Hopkins. I like him but I like Hopkins and probably even Trautman more but if Moss (and yes he is related to that Moss) becomes the best of this group I wouldn’t be surprised at all. He’s a good receiving TE, just not as explosive as Hopkins and Trautman.
OTs
Josh Jones – Meh. He’s decent but I don’t get the first round hype.
Austin Jackson – Strong bench but he doesn’t play to it, which makes sense because real power comes from the legs when you’re trying to move people. I’m not impressed at all with his tape.
Lucas Niang – I like Niang quite a bit but couldn’t fit him into the mock. Part of the TCU optical assault unfortunately. He’s a bit of a plodder at times and has raw technique (this drop for example is kinda slow and clunky):
…but he’s a strong people-mover of a tackle and he too is Ogden-sized at 6’7” 350ish or whatever he goes, he just doesn’t move quite as well.
Isaiah Wilson – I watched three plays and came away impressed and that was enough for me because honestly are we done yet
Ezra Cleveland – lit the Combine up and has elite LT measurables but he’s just a guy on his tapes. Not impressed. I don’t think he’ll be bad or anything I just wouldn’t take him in the first.
Matthew Peart – Liked him more than I thought I would. Moves well and has functional strength. He’s the guy moving the RB in the hole:
Saahdiq Charles – I think he’ll be half decent as well in the league but he just doesn’t move or block like the other guys.
Interior OL
Lloyd Cushenberry – Just not first round material IMO. Not bad but after deciding he wasn’t going top 32 I moved on.
Interior DL
Ross Blacklock – The closest to the first round DTs in my opinion. This guy is a player and I do like him, just didn’t have a spot for him.
Justin Madubuike – Specimen of an athlete, 9.5+ RAS score, does jack shit on tape and is often single-blocked with no problem at all for the OL. Great, he’s Rashede Hagemann. Do not want.
Marlon Davidson – I think he could be good but Auburn did him no favors and played him like a legit edge rusher. This guy is like 310 lbs. He’s hard to project but I do like him.
EDGE
Yetur Gross-Matos – I wanted to put him in the first but couldn’t find the right spot. Not super twitchy but has enough burst but dear Lord this dude is great with his hands, which by itself may be enough for Robert Kraft to insist that the Patriots draft him. He sheds blockers by routine and it’s no surprise he racked up so many TFLs at Penn State. Fits best in a 3-4 IMO and I see a bit of Cameron Jordan here.
AJ Epenesa – When Epenesa was a freshman, I watched him play against Penn State and just dominate them and thought “this dude is going to be a top 5 pick”. He was a rare 5-star recruit who went to Iowa and it just screamed top pick. But he didn’t dominate like that too often and he might just be a tweener in the wrong era. A big dude stuck as an edge rusher in a league where speed and bending the edge is the ticket to success there. He might still go first round but he just doesn’t really have the juice that you typically see at the position.
Zack Baun – I like Zack Baun, just don’t love him. His pass rush moves are good, he’s really good at turning into the pocket and getting to the QB, he just doesn’t win enough that I’d take him in the top 30 or so. But if he turned into a good NFL edge guy I wouldn’t be shocked.
Terrell Lewis – Hard pass. Shows nothing IMO. I think he’s a late round guy.
Julian Okwara – Not consistent enough but he’s got the measurables to develop into something. Long limbed pass rusher who also shows some ability to work back to the QB from around the edge. He’s projected 3rd round but I’d be happy with him at many spots in the 2nd.
K’Lavon Chiasson – NO idea why this guy is the consensus #2 edge rusher and considered a lock first rounder. He does almost nothing. Everyone blocks him without much difficulty. Supposedly he’s one of Orgeron’s guys and a true leader type and they all love him and Coach O hypes him up to NFL coaches but I don’t want to draft this guy anywhere near the first round.
LB
Willie Gay Jr – I considered slipping him into the back of the first as a surprise crazy pick but there were too many ILBs still available. This guy is a ridiculous athlete and crazyperson in the Ray Lewis mold (and a lot of teams love that), but he’s also raw as all hell and also, well, a crazyperson who was suspended for fighting his teammates last year and has only started 6 games. He’s going to go earlier than people think and they are gonna be like “who?” and I’m gonna be like, Willie Gay Jr. stupids he’s a badass freak who will break faces on the field when he’s not running himself out of every single play. No, he is not the son of former Steeler William Gay.
CB
Jaylon Johnson – Didn’t seem all that special, at least not first round special.
Noah Igbinoghene – This dude has played corner for all of two seasons, and he’s getting first round hype, but outside of Richard Sherman those guys don’t pan out all that often. He’s aggressive as shit and has some real athletic ability as a man cover corner but he’s sooooo damn raw. He moves in ways that remind me of Artie Burns, and we all know how that worked out. (Top of the screen)
Trevon Diggs – Nope. (Bottom of the screen)
He might be fine as a 2nd starter/depth guy as an off-ball corner, but I don’t see NFL first or second round corner here. Guys run by him too easily and he just looked lost there trying to locate the ball. (Jamarr Chase is gonna be insane btw)
Safety
Disclaimer – Safety is hard as hell to analyze without all-22 views. They are out of the screen for most of the play so for me it’s often just a guessing game.
Terrell Burgess – Made some nice run stops:
He just didn’t do anything that screamed “take me in the first!”.
Neither did:
Ashtyn Davis (though he did have a nice INT of Herbert) – btw here’s a gif of Eason just looking right at a guy and throwing him right into a defender. Not sure if Davis was supposed to cover him OR if he just realized “hey this is where Eason is going with the ball because he’s Eason” and jumped it.
Jeremy Chinn – Super all-time elite athlete at the position who wasn’t even all that impressive in highlight tapes. Has a lot of INTs so I’m sure he’s doing something right but they aren’t playing top competition at Southern Illinois. Generally if a safety isn’t impressive even in highlight tapes then I won’t put them in the first round.
Was impressive but only for running over people at a D-3 school
Kyle Dugger – Yeah his highlights are ridiculous but it’s not like Nasir Adderley where they are all plays on the ball. It’s a guy with NFL measurables running over kids at Lenoir Rhyne University. Yeah he might be a decent NFL player but he’s not going to run roughshod over the Chicago Bears.
Kickers/Punters
Hahaha stfu
Alright, finally another one in the books.
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That is still the best draft thing each year, SL. And this year, I read them all.
Also, I needed some private time with your Burrow write-up.
Also, I needed some private time with your Burrow write-up.
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Also, I have avoided inundating this board with Burrow/Bengals stuff (although for the unfortunate who follow me on Twitter you've seen it there) - but from what I can glean from those reporters plugged in (the two covering the team for the Athletic are outstanding) - Burrow has been at the top of the Bengals board since before the Senior Bowl and that has never come close to wavering. All the smoke about "they are intrigued with Herbert" came from, most likely, Miami plants. Same with the Burrow-will-pull-an-Eli thing that burned so bright pre-Super Bowl. There's never been a moment when anyone other than Burrow was ever really a consideration for the Bengals. They've maxed all their facetime allowable with him under the virtual visit Covid rules and I am pretty certain they are already deep into the playbook with him.
I am, obviously, plenty excited. I turn 50 this year, and I needed something approaching hope as a Bengals fan. Probably explains the pandemic...
I am, obviously, plenty excited. I turn 50 this year, and I needed something approaching hope as a Bengals fan. Probably explains the pandemic...
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I almost added an "adult" tag to some of the Burrow gifs, TB.
The Herbert stuff did sound too crazy to be true, for sure.
The Herbert stuff did sound too crazy to be true, for sure.
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It has just been such classic smoke and disinformation. Then again, given it's the Bengals, that didn't help put the fire out. I freely acknowledge that. But it was never really a thing.Todd McNeigh wrote: ↑Tue Apr 21, 2020 7:26 pm I almost added an "adult" tag to some of the Burrow gifs, TB.
The Herbert stuff did sound too crazy to be true, for sure.
Sometime, I will regale you with the horror that me and Geep went through on Dec. 23 when the Bengals erased the 25-point fourth quarter deficit to Miami to force OT and damn near won a game they had to lose. It was all right there and they almost fucked it up with one of the biggest comebacks of all time. For no good reason. And that was post-Tua injury when anything other than picking first was hell.
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I had Andy Dalton in a draft kings lineup that week. I looked up and suddenly he went from like 7 points to 25 and the game was in OT and I had to find it on the bar TVs and I really though they were going to fuck the whole thing up, probably so Mike Brown doesn't have to pay a top of the market QB extension in 4 years.
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The world froze for me when the sequence went TD at 31 seconds, somehow recovered an onside kick, two passes, the second of which was the 26-yard-td to Eifert as time ran out - followed by them coverting their second straight two-point conversion. It was 16 points in about 31 seconds of clock. The extended family was gathering for dinner and present exchange and geep and I were screaming f-bombs and nearly vomiting. It could have been its own 30 for 30.
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Thank you this rules
he’s a fixbking cyborg or some shit. The
holy fuckbAllZ, what a ducking nightmare. Holy shot. Just, fuck. The
holy fuckbAllZ, what a ducking nightmare. Holy shot. Just, fuck. The
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Yes. Thank you for this. It's a great tradition for me to look at this list after the draft and see the Patriots took no one you wrote about.
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I am truly awestruck by this.
"beautiful, with an exotic-yet-familiar facial structure and an arresting gaze."
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Beautifully done SL, much appreciated. The only names I see going to Baltimore in all the mocks are Murray, Queen or Espensa.
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Joe ThomasTodd McNeigh wrote:And really, Cleveland has made about 4 good draft picks this millennium so I’m sure they remember them quite clearly.
Myles Garrett
Nick Chubb
... and I'm having a hard time thinking about a fourth. Maybe Joel Bitonio?
ETA: Maybe Alex Mack, too. But still, your point stands tall and firm.
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Hey now, I liked Isaiah Wynn.
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A well-run organization would have purposefully blown the 2pt conversion to show they were a feisty bunch who you should never count out - but that they also aren't complete morons.tennbengal wrote: ↑Tue Apr 21, 2020 7:48 pm The world froze for me when the sequence went TD at 31 seconds, somehow recovered an onside kick, two passes, the second of which was the 26-yard-td to Eifert as time ran out - followed by them coverting their second straight two-point conversion. It was 16 points in about 31 seconds of clock. The extended family was gathering for dinner and present exchange and geep and I were screaming f-bombs and nearly vomiting. It could have been its own 30 for 30.
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It appeared to be Dalton's version of fuck you. It was horrific.Gunpowder wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2020 8:22 amA well-run organization would have purposefully blown the 2pt conversion to show they were a feisty bunch who you should never count out - but that they also aren't complete morons.tennbengal wrote: ↑Tue Apr 21, 2020 7:48 pm The world froze for me when the sequence went TD at 31 seconds, somehow recovered an onside kick, two passes, the second of which was the 26-yard-td to Eifert as time ran out - followed by them coverting their second straight two-point conversion. It was 16 points in about 31 seconds of clock. The extended family was gathering for dinner and present exchange and geep and I were screaming f-bombs and nearly vomiting. It could have been its own 30 for 30.
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Appreciated. Very nice way to avoid working
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Appreciated. Very nice way to avoid working
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Just piling on with another compliment.
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After Josh Allen and Justin Herbert, I have to just completely change the way I look at college QBs. In the NFL he looks like Joe Burrow did at LSU.
Didn't like Chase Claypool either. Whoops.
Didn't like Chase Claypool either. Whoops.
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He had a decent game yesterday.Todd McNeigh wrote: ↑Tue Apr 21, 2020 6:21 pm OTHER PLAYERS WATCHED:
Jeremy Chinn – Super all-time elite athlete at the position who wasn’t even all that impressive in highlight tapes. Has a lot of INTs so I’m sure he’s doing something right but they aren’t playing top competition at Southern Illinois. Generally if a safety isn’t impressive even in highlight tapes then I won’t put them in the first round.
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This guy is good too. Pure athleticism has made a comeback last few years.Giff wrote: ↑Mon Nov 30, 2020 10:19 amHe had a decent game yesterday.Todd McNeigh wrote: ↑Tue Apr 21, 2020 6:21 pm OTHER PLAYERS WATCHED:
Jeremy Chinn – Super all-time elite athlete at the position who wasn’t even all that impressive in highlight tapes. Has a lot of INTs so I’m sure he’s doing something right but they aren’t playing top competition at Southern Illinois. Generally if a safety isn’t impressive even in highlight tapes then I won’t put them in the first round.
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Todd McNeigh wrote: ↑Tue Apr 21, 2020 6:20 pm
3. Los Angeles Chargers trade with Miami Dolphins (how about a pick swap, 3rd rounder and 2nd rounder next year? Might be enough.
Los Angeles Chargers select TUA TAGOVAILOA, QB, ALABAMA
I wanted to have the Dolphins trade up to 2 to take Tua, but changed my mind after seeing Washington’s options after the trade. If it gets to this point, and Miami is truly just going to “let the board come to them” and all that dumb cliché shit then I do think LAC will try to jump over them. The Chargers need a QB, and they need a reason for people to give a shit about them. Nobody will care after they have Tua but they don’t need to know that so just humor them. Hold on a second…
PUT YOURSELF ON MUTE GETTLEMAN!!
…ok. Back to this.
I understand the injuries but people have been jerking off about Tua for like three years now and suddenly he’s going to drop to 5 because the Lions really want Jeff Okudah? I considered just sending Tua to the Lions, because you need to take advantage of these situations when they present themselves, and if not for the injuries I probably would have. I mean, look at the Dolphins – they’ve been pissing into the ocean breeze at QB for 20 years trying to find their next Dan Marino and they got jack shit so far. And unfortunately for them they gonna keep pissin’.
Tua is like Burrow in that he put up video game numbers in an easy offense, but he’s just significantly more scattershot in my opinion.
Burrow never misses. Tua doesn’t drastically miss but he’s still off way more than I thought he’d be. Yeah he can run, but he ain’t Burrow. He’s more Kyler Murray to me.
Anyway, yeah yeah, same flags apply to him – everyone is wide open, the entire offense is getting drafted in the first round, if everyone is covered he can throw it up to his like 4th best receiving option and he’ll still pluck it out of the sky off some dude’s nameplate:
But this is still a QB that can sling it and run like a slot receiver, and that’s probably not dropping to 5th overall unless his hip is truly fucked.
Last year when I was watching Alabama I kept wondering who this #6 guy was and why they kept throwing to him instead of Jeudy and Ruggs. So yeah Devonta Smith seems like he's pretty good.
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Just bumping because...Laird's Burrow graphs were pretty damn on point.
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Also, that came to pass. I had reason to be excited. And I just saw a motherfucking Bengals playoff win (in person) - the first such win for this franchise since I was 20. So, yeah, thanks Joe Burrow.tennbengal wrote: ↑Tue Apr 21, 2020 7:08 pm Also, I have avoided inundating this board with Burrow/Bengals stuff (although for the unfortunate who follow me on Twitter you've seen it there) - but from what I can glean from those reporters plugged in (the two covering the team for the Athletic are outstanding) - Burrow has been at the top of the Bengals board since before the Senior Bowl and that has never come close to wavering. All the smoke about "they are intrigued with Herbert" came from, most likely, Miami plants. Same with the Burrow-will-pull-an-Eli thing that burned so bright pre-Super Bowl. There's never been a moment when anyone other than Burrow was ever really a consideration for the Bengals. They've maxed all their facetime allowable with him under the virtual visit Covid rules and I am pretty certain they are already deep into the playbook with him.
I am, obviously, plenty excited. I turn 50 this year, and I needed something approaching hope as a Bengals fan. Probably explains the pandemic...
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As wrong as ever on Herbert but that just is what it is.
I wanted to be kinda down on Tua but I just couldn't talk myself into it. Seems so far like a mistake.
I wanted to be kinda down on Tua but I just couldn't talk myself into it. Seems so far like a mistake.
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Damn, I hated Trevon Diggs and a lot of other good players.
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Scratch that, Jalen Hurts is the most surprised I've ever been in this regard. I 0% saw this coming. Hated him coming out.
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At least I saw the first overall pick being good!tennbengal wrote: ↑Wed Jan 19, 2022 1:49 pm Just bumping because...Laird's Burrow graphs were pretty damn on point.
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