The Swamp

Yeah and there's no more Roy's to take over

Giff wrote: ↑Thu Apr 01, 2021 10:23 am Roy Williams retires.

I saw the post on twitter, and my first thought was that it was an April Fools joke.

Wes Miller, UNC-Greensboro, has to be a candidate.

Head coach for ten years there, including 125-43 in the last five seasons with his worst record in that time being either 25-10 or 21-9 (this year's shortened season). Three regular season conference titles and two NCAA berths in the last five, plus a third tourney appearance in his first season. Played three seasons at UNC after transferring from James Madison, started half his junior year.

So there isn't a former player with no college coaching experience that they can hire? Some big time school they are.

duff wrote: ↑Thu Apr 01, 2021 10:44 am So there isn't a former player with no college coaching experience that they can hire? Some big time school they are.

Michael Jordan.

Scott Drew?

Giff wrote: ↑Thu Apr 01, 2021 10:23 am Roy Williams retires.

About time. He horse-collared everybody because he couldn’t cover worth of shit.

I just picked my favorite random Tar Heel to see if ever got into coaching and it turns out that Eric Montross...

co-founded an organization called Vaccine Ambassadors, which aims to distribute vaccines all over the world, especially to developing countries, and help children (and in 1994) he started the Eric Montross Fathers Day Basketball Camp. The camp has raised over one million dollars for the UNC Children's hospital.

Celtic Pride.

Gimme that green down deep inside? Sounds so wrong now...


https://youtu.be/ZQ88bC9EPUo

I mean, Brad Stevens has to be the first call right?

If Jay Wright had any career ambition or desire to challenge himself at all, he'd be a great candidate here.

mister d wrote: ↑Thu Apr 01, 2021 12:04 pm If Jay Wright had any career ambition or desire to challenge himself at all, he'd be a great candidate here.

That's a good one, too. But has anyone ever won two titles and went to a blue blood instead of just staying (or moving to a far less successful school a la Bob Knight for obvious reasons.)

Williams probably has his own ideas about who should get the job and it's likely it's going to be someone he's anointed or at least approves of. Hard to imagine he'd retire without that.

A_B wrote: ↑Thu Apr 01, 2021 12:08 pm

mister d wrote: ↑Thu Apr 01, 2021 12:04 pm If Jay Wright had any career ambition or desire to challenge himself at all, he'd be a great candidate here.

That's a good one, too. But has anyone ever won two titles and went to a blue blood instead of just staying (or moving to a far less successful school a la Bob Knight for obvious reasons.)

No, but Roy leaving Kansas for UNC is kinda like that. Kinda.

Wes Miller has been on the unofficial UNC coaching watch for a while now. And yeah, I bet they're poking around with Brad Stevens too. Jay Wright would be a pretty amazing hire. If Chris Beard hadn't just gone to Texas, I wonder if he wouldn't have been on the list. Maybe Nate Oats from Alabama as well.

Unlike Indiana, UNC is a real blue blood and there's almost nobody who they couldn't reasonably talk to.

Wojo's looking for a job

It’ll come down to money if guys like Few or Wright wish to leave better situations they are in for UNC.

They are gods where they are now. If things don’t go well at UNC, they’ll be pariahs.

EnochRoot wrote: ↑Thu Apr 01, 2021 5:44 pm It’ll come down to money if guys like Few or Wright wish to leave better situations they are in for UNC.

They are gods where they are now. If things don’t go well at UNC, they’ll be pariahs.

Few ain't going anywhere. He's had plenty of opportunities over the years (I remember years ago when UW people were thinking they could entice him to leave Spokane) and has never even really considered them.

He'll retire at Gonzaga and they'll put his statue up right next to the one of Bing Crosby (noted alum).

DaveInSeattle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 01, 2021 6:06 pm

EnochRoot wrote: ↑Thu Apr 01, 2021 5:44 pm It’ll come down to money if guys like Few or Wright wish to leave better situations they are in for UNC.

They are gods where they are now. If things don’t go well at UNC, they’ll be pariahs.

Few ain't going anywhere. He's had plenty of opportunities over the years (I remember years ago when UW people were thinking they could entice him to leave Spokane) and has never even really considered them.

He'll retire at Gonzaga and they'll put his statue up right next to the one of Bing Crosby (noted alum).

Apparently Wright turned down UCLA (who offered double the money he’s making at Villanova). Obviously UCLA isn’t UNC, but I’m not sure coaching a blue blood program carries the same cache it once did.

Good to know Gonzaga doesn’t just have a random statue of Bing Crosby.

That would be hilarious if schools put up statues of random old-school celebrities.

“Why does Texas A&M have a statue of Bob Hope?”

<shrugs>

And another one...

phxgators wrote: ↑Fri Apr 02, 2021 11:17 am And another one...

Hey they got a transfer in from UM-Kansas City though!

50% of scholarship players transferring makes me think either some school is going to form an NBA-ish super team or a mid-major might have a chance to get a one year bounce into the top 10.

Is there some known reason why all these guys are saying FU to UF?

sancarlos wrote: ↑Fri Apr 02, 2021 12:51 pm Is there some known reason why all these guys are saying FU to UF?

Nothing specific that I've heard, other than maybe the team consistently underachieving based on the supposed caliber of players being brought in.

I think a lot of the movement is simply because players can transfer without penalty. There is no longer motivation to stay in a program and try to develop/earn a larger role because there is no redshirt year as a consequence for transferring.

I think some of these guys don't actually want to leave, they just want to do a stylish goodbye tweet:

Hubert Davis hired as UNC head coach.

Feel bad for that guy. People gonna remember him like they do matt doherty

When you think about it, Roy Williams totally white-knighted a floundering UNC program. He didn't have to leave Kansas.

DSafetyGuy wrote: ↑Thu Apr 01, 2021 10:41 am Wes Miller, UNC-Greensboro, has to be a candidate.

Head coach for ten years there, including 125-43 in the last five seasons with his worst record in that time being either 25-10 or 21-9 (this year's shortened season). Three regular season conference titles and two NCAA berths in the last five, plus a third tourney appearance in his first season. Played three seasons at UNC after transferring from James Madison, started half his junior year.

Can't wait to see which mediocre ACC/SEC program gets to be Miller's consolation prize in the next two years.

HaulCitgo wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 3:02 pm Feel bad for that guy. People gonna remember him like they do matt doherty

Wasn't easy following the legendary Bill Guthridge.

HaulCitgo wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 3:02 pm Feel bad for that guy. People gonna remember him like they do matt doherty

Not likely. He may flame out, but he's not a raging asshole like Doherty.

North Carolina is one of those schools where you don’t have to do much coaching to have success. Obviously it’s better if you can but you can win there getting a couple McDonalds All-Americans every year and not being an idiot. I wouldn’t necessary assume he’s gonna fail.

This sucks but I don’t think it’s over

Ryan wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 8:47 pm This sucks but I don’t think it’s over

No they definitely hired Davis, it’s over.

Wrong thread again, me.

Sean Miller fired at Arizona.

A_B wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 12:30 pm Sean Miller fired at Arizona.

Good. Hopefully Will Wade is next but not holding my breath.